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Subject: Disable or Remap Magic Keyboard Lock Key
From: Colour Sergeant Bour
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Organization: B Company, 24th Regiment of Foot
Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2024 20:19 UTC

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From: bourne@rorke.za (Colour Sergeant Bourne)
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Subject: Disable or Remap Magic Keyboard Lock Key
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The upper right key on my Apple Magic Keyboard has a lock icon and locks
the computer back to the login screen. It sits immediately above the
Delete Key so I frequently hit it accidentally and have to re-enter my
password to continue working.

I looked at System Settings/Keyboard but don't see any way to disable or
remap this key. There seem to be some third party keyboard mapping apps
but I'm not sure how safe of good they are.

Suggestions?

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axe was clever and convinced the trees that because his handle was made
of wood, he was one of them

Subject: Re: Disable or Remap Magic Keyboard Lock Key
From: Alan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
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Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2024 00:39 UTC
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From: nuh-uh@nope.com (Alan)
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Subject: Re: Disable or Remap Magic Keyboard Lock Key
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On 2024-10-06 13:19, Colour Sergeant Bourne wrote:
> The upper right key on my Apple Magic Keyboard has a lock icon and locks
> the computer back to the login screen. It sits immediately above the
> Delete Key so I frequently hit it accidentally and have to re-enter my
> password to continue working.
>
> I looked at System Settings/Keyboard but don't see any way to disable or
> remap this key. There seem to be some third party keyboard mapping apps
> but I'm not sure how safe of good they are.
>
> Suggestions?
Sure.

Take the subject line you just wrote.

Search for it with Google before you come looking for hel.

Subject: Re: Disable or Remap Magic Keyboard Lock Key
From: Colour Sergeant Bour
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: B Company, 24th Regiment of Foot
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2024 12:34 UTC
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From: bourne@rorke.za (Colour Sergeant Bourne)
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Subject: Re: Disable or Remap Magic Keyboard Lock Key
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2024 08:34:04 -0400
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On 10/6/24 8:39 PM, Alan wrote:
> On 2024-10-06 13:19, Colour Sergeant Bourne wrote:
>> The upper right key on my Apple Magic Keyboard has a lock icon and
>> locks the computer back to the login screen. It sits immediately above
>> the Delete Key so I frequently hit it accidentally and have to re-
>> enter my password to continue working.
>>
>> I looked at System Settings/Keyboard but don't see any way to disable
>> or remap this key. There seem to be some third party keyboard mapping
>> apps but I'm not sure how safe of good they are.
>>
>> Suggestions?
> Sure.
>
> Take the subject line you just wrote.
>
> Search for it with Google before you come looking for hel.

Just wondering: Do you think I might have already done that and not
finding a good solution-- posted here hoping for some help while fully
recognizing the ever-present risk an asshat reply?

Hmmm?

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From: nuh-uh@nope.com (Alan)
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Subject: Re: Disable or Remap Magic Keyboard Lock Key
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2024 08:44:41 -0700
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On 2024-10-07 05:34, Colour Sergeant Bourne wrote:
> On 10/6/24 8:39 PM, Alan wrote:
>> On 2024-10-06 13:19, Colour Sergeant Bourne wrote:
>>> The upper right key on my Apple Magic Keyboard has a lock icon and
>>> locks the computer back to the login screen. It sits immediately
>>> above the Delete Key so I frequently hit it accidentally and have to
>>> re- enter my password to continue working.
>>>
>>> I looked at System Settings/Keyboard but don't see any way to disable
>>> or remap this key. There seem to be some third party keyboard mapping
>>> apps but I'm not sure how safe of good they are.
>>>
>>> Suggestions?
>> Sure.
>>
>> Take the subject line you just wrote.
>>
>> Search for it with Google before you come looking for hel.
>
> Just wondering: Do you think I might have already done that and not
> finding a good solution-- posted here hoping for some help while fully
> recognizing the ever-present risk an asshat reply?
>
> Hmmm?
No. I think there is no chance AT ALL that you did that.

Here's why.

The first hit is this:

'Disable the Lock Key on a Magic Keyboard (or any other key)

Since this cannot be natively done in Mac OS, you can use an app like
Karabiner Elements to do it easily. And it's free, unlike many other
keyboard controlling apps. Install Karabiner and add the following rule:
Lock key on Magic keyboard --> vk_none. DONE!'

<https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=Disable+or+Remap+Magic+Keyboard+Lock+Key&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8>

Subject: Re: Disable or Remap Magic Keyboard Lock Key
From: Alan Browne
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On 2024-10-06 16:19, Colour Sergeant Bourne wrote:
> The upper right key on my Apple Magic Keyboard has a lock icon and locks
> the computer back to the login screen. It sits immediately above the
> Delete Key so I frequently hit it accidentally and have to re-enter my
> password to continue working.
>
> I looked at System Settings/Keyboard but don't see any way to disable or
> remap this key. There seem to be some third party keyboard mapping apps
> but I'm not sure how safe of good they are.
>
> Suggestions?

Try (in Terminal):

sysadminctl -screenLock off -password -

(The last dash is to prompt for your password).

This *should* work - but does not on Sequoia.

Can't seem to find away around this in settings - on my keyboard that
key is also the fingerprint reader - so touching it is good for login or
Passwords related things and so on.

It also has a stiffer resistance and sharper break compared to other
keys so less likely to accidentally press it.

No idea about 3rd party apps for this.

--
"It would be a measureless disaster if Russian barbarism overlaid
the culture and independence of the ancient States of Europe."
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From: bourne@rorke.za (Colour Sergeant Bourne)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Disable or Remap Magic Keyboard Lock Key
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2024 18:50:09 -0400
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On 10/7/24 11:44 AM, Alan wrote:
> On 2024-10-07 05:34, Colour Sergeant Bourne wrote:
>> On 10/6/24 8:39 PM, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2024-10-06 13:19, Colour Sergeant Bourne wrote:
>>>> The upper right key on my Apple Magic Keyboard has a lock icon and
>>>> locks the computer back to the login screen. It sits immediately
>>>> above the Delete Key so I frequently hit it accidentally and have to
>>>> re- enter my password to continue working.
>>>>
>>>> I looked at System Settings/Keyboard but don't see any way to
>>>> disable or remap this key. There seem to be some third party
>>>> keyboard mapping apps but I'm not sure how safe of good they are.
>>>>
>>>> Suggestions?
>>> Sure.
>>>
>>> Take the subject line you just wrote.
>>>
>>> Search for it with Google before you come looking for hel.
>>
>> Just wondering: Do you think I might have already done that and not
>> finding a good solution-- posted here hoping for some help while fully
>> recognizing the ever-present risk an asshat reply?
>>
>> Hmmm?
> No. I think there is no chance AT ALL that you did that.
>
> Here's why.
>
> The first hit is this:
>
> 'Disable the Lock Key on a Magic Keyboard (or any other key)
>
> Since this cannot be natively done in Mac OS, you can use an app like
> Karabiner Elements to do it easily. And it's free, unlike many other
> keyboard controlling apps. Install Karabiner and add the following rule:
> Lock key on Magic keyboard --> vk_none. DONE!'
>
> <https://www.google.com/search?
> client=safari&rls=en&q=Disable+or+Remap+Magic+Keyboard+Lock+Key&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8>

Actually I did. Reread the OP where I said I found some 3rd party apps
but didn't know how good they were.

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From: bourne@rorke.za (Colour Sergeant Bourne)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Disable or Remap Magic Keyboard Lock Key
Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2024 18:54:23 -0400
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On 10/7/24 3:25 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
> On 2024-10-06 16:19, Colour Sergeant Bourne wrote:
>> The upper right key on my Apple Magic Keyboard has a lock icon and
>> locks the computer back to the login screen. It sits immediately above
>> the Delete Key so I frequently hit it accidentally and have to re-
>> enter my password to continue working.
>>
>> I looked at System Settings/Keyboard but don't see any way to disable
>> or remap this key. There seem to be some third party keyboard mapping
>> apps but I'm not sure how safe of good they are.
>>
>> Suggestions?
>
> Try (in Terminal):
>
> sysadminctl -screenLock off -password -
>
> (The last dash is to prompt for your password).
>
> This *should* work - but does not on Sequoia.
>
> Can't seem to find away around this in settings - on my keyboard that
> key is also the fingerprint reader - so touching it is good for login or
> Passwords related things and so on.
>
> It also has a stiffer resistance and sharper break compared to other
> keys so less likely to accidentally press it.
>
> No idea about 3rd party apps for this.
>
Thanks, unfortunately I am running Sequoia (18.0.1).

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On 2024-10-07 18:54, Colour Sergeant Bourne wrote:
> On 10/7/24 3:25 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
>> On 2024-10-06 16:19, Colour Sergeant Bourne wrote:
>>> The upper right key on my Apple Magic Keyboard has a lock icon and
>>> locks the computer back to the login screen. It sits immediately
>>> above the Delete Key so I frequently hit it accidentally and have to
>>> re- enter my password to continue working.
>>>
>>> I looked at System Settings/Keyboard but don't see any way to disable
>>> or remap this key. There seem to be some third party keyboard mapping
>>> apps but I'm not sure how safe of good they are.
>>>
>>> Suggestions?
>>
>> Try (in Terminal):
>>
>> sysadminctl -screenLock off -password -
>>
>> (The last dash is to prompt for your password).
>>
>> This *should* work - but does not on Sequoia.
>>
>> Can't seem to find away around this in settings - on my keyboard that
>> key is also the fingerprint reader - so touching it is good for login
>> or Passwords related things and so on.
>>
>> It also has a stiffer resistance and sharper break compared to other
>> keys so less likely to accidentally press it.
>>
>> No idea about 3rd party apps for this.
>>
> Thanks, unfortunately I am running Sequoia (18.0.1).

Please try it anyway.

Could be an issue with my machine and if it works on your side I'd like
to know all about it. My "does not on Sequoia" statement above was not
well thought out!

(M3 iMac here, Seq 18.0).

--
"It would be a measureless disaster if Russian barbarism overlaid
the culture and independence of the ancient States of Europe."
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Subject: Re: Disable or Remap Magic Keyboard Lock Key
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On 10/8/24 10:11 AM, Alan Browne wrote:
> On 2024-10-07 18:54, Colour Sergeant Bourne wrote:
>> On 10/7/24 3:25 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
>>> On 2024-10-06 16:19, Colour Sergeant Bourne wrote:
>>>> The upper right key on my Apple Magic Keyboard has a lock icon and
>>>> locks the computer back to the login screen. It sits immediately
>>>> above the Delete Key so I frequently hit it accidentally and have to
>>>> re- enter my password to continue working.
>>>>
>>>> I looked at System Settings/Keyboard but don't see any way to
>>>> disable or remap this key. There seem to be some third party
>>>> keyboard mapping apps but I'm not sure how safe of good they are.
>>>>
>>>> Suggestions?
>>>
>>> Try (in Terminal):
>>>
>>> sysadminctl -screenLock off -password -
>>>
>>> (The last dash is to prompt for your password).
>>>
>>> This *should* work - but does not on Sequoia.
>>>
>>> Can't seem to find away around this in settings - on my keyboard that
>>> key is also the fingerprint reader - so touching it is good for login
>>> or Passwords related things and so on.
>>>
>>> It also has a stiffer resistance and sharper break compared to other
>>> keys so less likely to accidentally press it.
>>>
>>> No idea about 3rd party apps for this.
>>>
>> Thanks, unfortunately I am running Sequoia (18.0.1).
>
> Please try it anyway.
>
> Could be an issue with my machine and if it works on your side I'd like
> to know all about it. My "does not on Sequoia" statement above was not
> well thought out!
>
> (M3 iMac here, Seq 18.0).
>

Back in DOS days, I was a regular Command Line Commando, but I'm
skittish anywhere near macOS Terminal...

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On 2024-10-07, Colour Sergeant Bourne <bourne@rorke.za> wrote:
> On 10/7/24 3:25 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
>> On 2024-10-06 16:19, Colour Sergeant Bourne wrote:
>>> The upper right key on my Apple Magic Keyboard has a lock icon and
>>> locks the computer back to the login screen. It sits immediately above
>>> the Delete Key so I frequently hit it accidentally and have to re-
>>> enter my password to continue working.
>>>
>>> I looked at System Settings/Keyboard but don't see any way to disable
>>> or remap this key. There seem to be some third party keyboard mapping
>>> apps but I'm not sure how safe of good they are.
>>>
>>> Suggestions?
>>
>> Try (in Terminal):
>>
>> sysadminctl -screenLock off -password -
>>
>> (The last dash is to prompt for your password).
>>
>> This *should* work - but does not on Sequoia.
>>
>> Can't seem to find away around this in settings - on my keyboard that
>> key is also the fingerprint reader - so touching it is good for login or
>> Passwords related things and so on.
>>
>> It also has a stiffer resistance and sharper break compared to other
>> keys so less likely to accidentally press it.
>>
>> No idea about 3rd party apps for this.
>>
> Thanks, unfortunately I am running Sequoia (18.0.1).
>

Sequoia is 15.x

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On 2024-10-09 09:29, Colour Sergeant Bourne wrote:
> On 10/8/24 10:11 AM, Alan Browne wrote:
>> On 2024-10-07 18:54, Colour Sergeant Bourne wrote:
>>> On 10/7/24 3:25 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
>>>> On 2024-10-06 16:19, Colour Sergeant Bourne wrote:
>>>>> The upper right key on my Apple Magic Keyboard has a lock icon and
>>>>> locks the computer back to the login screen. It sits immediately
>>>>> above the Delete Key so I frequently hit it accidentally and have
>>>>> to re- enter my password to continue working.
>>>>>
>>>>> I looked at System Settings/Keyboard but don't see any way to
>>>>> disable or remap this key. There seem to be some third party
>>>>> keyboard mapping apps but I'm not sure how safe of good they are.
>>>>>
>>>>> Suggestions?
>>>>
>>>> Try (in Terminal):
>>>>
>>>> sysadminctl -screenLock off -password -
>>>>
>>>> (The last dash is to prompt for your password).
>>>>
>>>> This *should* work - but does not on Sequoia.
>>>>
>>>> Can't seem to find away around this in settings - on my keyboard
>>>> that key is also the fingerprint reader - so touching it is good for
>>>> login or Passwords related things and so on.
>>>>
>>>> It also has a stiffer resistance and sharper break compared to other
>>>> keys so less likely to accidentally press it.
>>>>
>>>> No idea about 3rd party apps for this.
>>>>
>>> Thanks, unfortunately I am running Sequoia (18.0.1).
>>
>> Please try it anyway.
>>
>> Could be an issue with my machine and if it works on your side I'd
>> like to know all about it. My "does not on Sequoia" statement above
>> was not well thought out!
>>
>> (M3 iMac here, Seq 18.0).
>>
>
> Back in DOS days, I was a regular Command Line Commando, but I'm
> skittish anywhere near macOS Terminal...

It's nothing - esp. that command. Copy/Paste ...

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On 2024-10-09 10:56, Mister Johnson wrote:
> On 2024-10-07, Colour Sergeant Bourne <bourne@rorke.za> wrote:
>> On 10/7/24 3:25 PM, Alan Browne wrote:
>>> On 2024-10-06 16:19, Colour Sergeant Bourne wrote:
>>>> The upper right key on my Apple Magic Keyboard has a lock icon and
>>>> locks the computer back to the login screen. It sits immediately above
>>>> the Delete Key so I frequently hit it accidentally and have to re-
>>>> enter my password to continue working.
>>>>
>>>> I looked at System Settings/Keyboard but don't see any way to disable
>>>> or remap this key. There seem to be some third party keyboard mapping
>>>> apps but I'm not sure how safe of good they are.
>>>>
>>>> Suggestions?
>>>
>>> Try (in Terminal):
>>>
>>> sysadminctl -screenLock off -password -
>>>
>>> (The last dash is to prompt for your password).
>>>
>>> This *should* work - but does not on Sequoia.
>>>
>>> Can't seem to find away around this in settings - on my keyboard that
>>> key is also the fingerprint reader - so touching it is good for login or
>>> Passwords related things and so on.
>>>
>>> It also has a stiffer resistance and sharper break compared to other
>>> keys so less likely to accidentally press it.
>>>
>>> No idea about 3rd party apps for this.
>>>
>> Thanks, unfortunately I am running Sequoia (18.0.1).
>>
>
> Sequoia is 15.x

Details ...

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Subject: Re: Disable or Remap Magic Keyboard Lock Key
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Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> writes:

> On 2024-10-07 05:34, Colour Sergeant Bourne wrote:
>> On 10/6/24 8:39 PM, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2024-10-06 13:19, Colour Sergeant Bourne wrote:
>>>> The upper right key on my Apple Magic Keyboard has a lock icon and
>>>> locks the computer back to the login screen. It sits immediately
>>>> above the Delete Key so I frequently hit it accidentally and have
>>>> to re- enter my password to continue working.
>>>>
>>>> I looked at System Settings/Keyboard but don't see any way to
>>>> disable or remap this key. There seem to be some third party
>>>> keyboard mapping apps but I'm not sure how safe of good they are.
>>>>
>>>> Suggestions?
>>> Sure.
>>>
>>> Take the subject line you just wrote.
>>>
>>> Search for it with Google before you come looking for hel.
>> Just wondering: Do you think I might have already done that and not
>> finding a good solution-- posted here hoping for some help while
>> fully recognizing the ever-present risk an asshat reply?
>> Hmmm?
> No. I think there is no chance AT ALL that you did that.
>
> Here's why.
>
> The first hit is this:
>
> 'Disable the Lock Key on a Magic Keyboard (or any other key)
>
> Since this cannot be natively done in Mac OS, you can use an app like
> Karabiner Elements to do it easily. And it's free, unlike many other
> keyboard controlling apps. Install Karabiner and add the following
> rule: Lock key on Magic keyboard --> vk_none. DONE!'
>

Karabiner Elements works quite well. I used to use it until I got a new
Keychron keyboard that has remapping capability built-in to the
firmware.

BOFH excuse #290: The CPU has shifted, and become decentralized.

comp / comp.sys.mac.system / Re: Disable or Remap Magic Keyboard Lock Key

Subject	Author
Disable or Remap Magic Keyboard Lock Key	Colour Sergeant Bourne
Re: Disable or Remap Magic Keyboard Lock Key	Alan
Re: Disable or Remap Magic Keyboard Lock Key	Colour Sergeant Bourne
Re: Disable or Remap Magic Keyboard Lock Key	Alan
Re: Disable or Remap Magic Keyboard Lock Key	Colour Sergeant Bourne
Re: Disable or Remap Magic Keyboard Lock Key	Bud Frede
Re: Disable or Remap Magic Keyboard Lock Key	Alan Browne
Re: Disable or Remap Magic Keyboard Lock Key	Colour Sergeant Bourne
Re: Disable or Remap Magic Keyboard Lock Key	Alan Browne
Re: Disable or Remap Magic Keyboard Lock Key	Colour Sergeant Bourne
Re: Disable or Remap Magic Keyboard Lock Key	Alan Browne
Re: Disable or Remap Magic Keyboard Lock Key	Mister Johnson
Re: Disable or Remap Magic Keyboard Lock Key	Alan Browne