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Subject: Re: Why? - EXPLANATION!
From: Snit
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On Aug 27, 2024 at 1:31:36 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lj6rdbFn592U1@mid.individual.net>:

> On 27/08/2024 21:01, Snit wrote:
>> On Aug 27, 2024 at 12:46:59 PM MST, "Alan Browne" wrote
>> <T2qzO.25114$xnk2.21931@fx11.iad>:
>>
>>> On 2024-08-22 12:52, Snit wrote:
>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:36:19 AM MST, "Da
>>>
>>> Why do you reply to it at all?
>>
>> I think David does have a good heart... he does not mean to be harmful as say
>> Pothead or Skeeter or Carroll or Gremlin do. But his focus here is not healthy
>> for him.
>
> People ignore my questions about file size discrepancy, Snit.

I think that is the most interesting part of your recent questions.
>
> Will you, please, ask if anyone can explain why the downloaded file from
> EtreCheck is far smaller that the total files found by AppCleaner?

The total files? You mean including the ones made after by the app and the
ones made by the OS? Files which are not a part of the download? One would
expect that to be larger, no?
>
> https://i.ibb.co/y0t7T54/Screenshot-2022-04-15-at-10-54-52.png
>
> The reason might be as simple as the fact that the downloaded file is a
> ZIP file!
>
> But I don't think that's it!

So you are asking about the file size discrepancy?

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Subject: Re: Why? - EXPLANATION!
From: David Brooks
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On 27/08/2024 21:37, Snit wrote:
> On Aug 27, 2024 at 1:31:36 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
> <lj6rdbFn592U1@mid.individual.net>:
>
>> On 27/08/2024 21:01, Snit wrote:
>>> On Aug 27, 2024 at 12:46:59 PM MST, "Alan Browne" wrote
>>> <T2qzO.25114$xnk2.21931@fx11.iad>:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-08-22 12:52, Snit wrote:
>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:36:19 AM MST, "Da
>>>>
>>>> Why do you reply to it at all?
>>>
>>> I think David does have a good heart... he does not mean to be harmful as say
>>> Pothead or Skeeter or Carroll or Gremlin do. But his focus here is not healthy
>>> for him.
>>
>> People ignore my questions about file size discrepancy, Snit.
>
> I think that is the most interesting part of your recent questions.
>>
>> Will you, please, ask if anyone can explain why the downloaded file from
>> EtreCheck is far smaller that the total files found by AppCleaner?
>
> The total files? You mean including the ones made after by the app and the
> ones made by the OS? Files which are not a part of the download? One would
> expect that to be larger, no?

I don't know about "the ones made after by the app".

Does it 'feel right' to you?

>> https://i.ibb.co/y0t7T54/Screenshot-2022-04-15-at-10-54-52.png
>>
>> The reason might be as simple as the fact that the downloaded file is a
>> ZIP file!
>>
>> But I don't think that's it!
>
> So you are asking about the file size discrepancy?

Yes, I am.

Subject: Re: Why? - EXPLANATION!
From: Snit
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On Aug 27, 2024 at 1:44:57 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lj6s6bFn595U6@mid.individual.net>:

> On 27/08/2024 21:37, Snit wrote:
>> On Aug 27, 2024 at 1:31:36 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>> <lj6rdbFn592U1@mid.individual.net>:
>>
>>> On 27/08/2024 21:01, Snit wrote:
>>>> On Aug 27, 2024 at 12:46:59 PM MST, "Alan Browne" wrote
>>>> <T2qzO.25114$xnk2.21931@fx11.iad>:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2024-08-22 12:52, Snit wrote:
>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:36:19 AM MST, "Da
>>>>>
>>>>> Why do you reply to it at all?
>>>>
>>>> I think David does have a good heart... he does not mean to be harmful as say
>>>> Pothead or Skeeter or Carroll or Gremlin do. But his focus here is not healthy
>>>> for him.
>>>
>>> People ignore my questions about file size discrepancy, Snit.
>>
>> I think that is the most interesting part of your recent questions.
>>>
>>> Will you, please, ask if anyone can explain why the downloaded file from
>>> EtreCheck is far smaller that the total files found by AppCleaner?
>>
>> The total files? You mean including the ones made after by the app and the
>> ones made by the OS? Files which are not a part of the download? One would
>> expect that to be larger, no?
>
> I don't know about "the ones made after by the app".
>
> Does it 'feel right' to you?

Does it feel right for the OS to do what it is designed to do? Of course. Does
it feel right for the OS to make caches to speed things up. Sure. Does it feel
right for apps to make preferences files? Yeah... they sorta have to.

I have no idea what could possibly feel wrong about any of this.

You look at these things and do not fully understand. THAT is fine. But then
you assume it might be bad. Why not instead ask if it is uncommon? Try four or
five other apps and do the same thing! THAT would be valuable for your
investigation -- see if an app is doing something unlike other apps. But as
far as I know you never do that. Doing that would absolutely be key to any
such digging into oddities.

Does not mean if one app is different it is evil or bad or nefarious, of
course, but it at least would be uncommon and it might be interesting to see
WHY it is different.

Why not do that instead of asking others to install and uninstall apps and the
like?

>
>>> https://i.ibb.co/y0t7T54/Screenshot-2022-04-15-at-10-54-52.png
>>>
>>> The reason might be as simple as the fact that the downloaded file is a
>>> ZIP file!
>>>
>>> But I don't think that's it!
>>
>> So you are asking about the file size discrepancy?
>
> Yes, I am.

Right after you said: "People ignore my questions about file size discrepancy,
Snit."

That seems odd.

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They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

Subject: Re: Why? - EXPLANATION!
From: Skeeter
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In article <66ce3099$0$3620712$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>
> On Aug 27, 2024 at 12:46:59 PM MST, "Alan Browne" wrote
> <T2qzO.25114$xnk2.21931@fx11.iad>:
>
> > On 2024-08-22 12:52, Snit wrote:
> >> On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:36:19 AM MST, "Da
> >
> > Why do you reply to it at all?
>
> I think David does have a good heart... he does not mean to be harmful as say
> Pothead or Skeeter or Carroll or Gremlin do. But his focus here is not healthy
> for him.

You mean you don't agree with us so that means we're bad. Typical
liberal thinking.

Subject: Re: Why? - EXPLANATION!
From: Snit
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On Aug 27, 2024 at 3:15:13 PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
<66ce4fe5$0$2757$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:

> In article <66ce3099$0$3620712$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>>
>> On Aug 27, 2024 at 12:46:59 PM MST, "Alan Browne" wrote
>> <T2qzO.25114$xnk2.21931@fx11.iad>:
>>
>>> On 2024-08-22 12:52, Snit wrote:
>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:36:19 AM MST, "Da
>>>
>>> Why do you reply to it at all?
>>
>> I think David does have a good heart... he does not mean to be harmful as say
>> Pothead or Skeeter or Carroll or Gremlin do. But his focus here is not healthy
>> for him.
>
> You mean

I mean what *I* mean, not what you falsely attribute to me.

> you don't agree with us so that means we're bad. Typical
> liberal thinking.

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They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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