On Aug 20, 2024 at 2:57:07 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<likhpjFt08kU8@mid.individual.net>:

> On 20/08/2024 22:46, Charlie Glock wrote:
>
>> Anyway, getting back to your question, the only reasonably sure method for
>> eliminating nasty stuff
>> that might be left on an hdisk is to perform something like a DOD wipe.
>
> Thank you.
>
> How can one do that on an Apple Mac?

Apple > System Settings > General > Transfer or Reset

You will see the option to "Erase all Content and Settings..."

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On 21/08/2024 00:52, Snit wrote:
> On Aug 20, 2024 at 2:57:07 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
> <likhpjFt08kU8@mid.individual.net>:
>
>> On 20/08/2024 22:46, Charlie Glock wrote:
>>
>>> Anyway, getting back to your question, the only reasonably sure method for
>>> eliminating nasty stuff
>>> that might be left on an hdisk is to perform something like a DOD wipe.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> How can one do that on an Apple Mac?
>
> Apple > System Settings > General > Transfer or Reset
>
> You will see the option to "Erase all Content and Settings..."

Sadly, not on THIS iMac running macOS Ventura. :-(

See: https://i.ibb.co/nDgWy3j/Screenshot-2024-08-21-at-08-40-07.png

On 21/08/2024 08:42, David Brooks wrote:
<snip>

>> Apple > System Settings > General > Transfer or Reset
>>
>> You will see the option to "Erase all Content and Settings..."
>
> Sadly, not on THIS iMac running macOS Ventura. :-(
>
> See:  https://i.ibb.co/nDgWy3j/Screenshot-2024-08-21-at-08-40-07.png

Looks like your Mac is Intel based so doesn't have the required 'Apple
silicon' or a T2 Security Chip needed for that feature to be available?

Cheers, T i m

On 21/08/2024 10:40, T i m wrote:
> On 21/08/2024 08:42, David Brooks wrote:
> <snip>
>
>>> Apple > System Settings > General > Transfer or Reset
>>>
>>> You will see the option to "Erase all Content and Settings..."
>>
>> Sadly, not on THIS iMac running macOS Ventura. :-(
>>
>> See:  https://i.ibb.co/nDgWy3j/Screenshot-2024-08-21-at-08-40-07.png
>
> Looks like your Mac is Intel based so doesn't have the required 'Apple
> silicon' or a T2 Security Chip needed for that feature to be available?

That is 100% correct! 🙂

On 21/08/2024 10:57, David Brooks wrote:
> On 21/08/2024 10:40, T i m wrote:
>> On 21/08/2024 08:42, David Brooks wrote:
>> <snip>
>>
>>>> Apple > System Settings > General > Transfer or Reset
>>>>
>>>> You will see the option to "Erase all Content and Settings..."
>>>
>>> Sadly, not on THIS iMac running macOS Ventura. :-(
>>>
>>> See:  https://i.ibb.co/nDgWy3j/Screenshot-2024-08-21-at-08-40-07.png
>>
>> Looks like your Mac is Intel based so doesn't have the required 'Apple
>> silicon' or a T2 Security Chip needed for that feature to be available?
>
> That is 100% correct! 🙂

I know.

Cheers, T i m

On Aug 21, 2024 at 12:42:28 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lilk34F3tpfU3@mid.individual.net>:

> On 21/08/2024 00:52, Snit wrote:
>> On Aug 20, 2024 at 2:57:07 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>> <likhpjFt08kU8@mid.individual.net>:
>>
>>> On 20/08/2024 22:46, Charlie Glock wrote:
>>>
>>>> Anyway, getting back to your question, the only reasonably sure method for
>>>> eliminating nasty stuff
>>>> that might be left on an hdisk is to perform something like a DOD wipe.
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> How can one do that on an Apple Mac?
>>
>> Apple > System Settings > General > Transfer or Reset
>>
>> You will see the option to "Erase all Content and Settings..."
>
> Sadly, not on THIS iMac running macOS Ventura. :-(
>
> See: https://i.ibb.co/nDgWy3j/Screenshot-2024-08-21-at-08-40-07.png

It should work on Ventura:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/102664

But not on Intel. This is what Apple suggests if it does not work:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/102773
-----
1) Back up or transfer your files
2) Sign out of iTunes
3) Sign out of iCloud
4) Sign out of iMessage
5) Unpair Bluetooth devices (optional)
6) Erase your Mac
* Shut down your Mac.
* Start up from macOS Recovery, then use Disk Utility to erase your
Mac. For details, follow the steps to use Disk Utility to erase
your Mac.
When done, quit Disk Utility but don't restart your Mac.
------

They give details for what I numbered 1-5 at the link.

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On 21/08/2024 17:00, Snit wrote:
> On Aug 21, 2024 at 12:42:28 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
> <lilk34F3tpfU3@mid.individual.net>:
>
>> On 21/08/2024 00:52, Snit wrote:
>>> On Aug 20, 2024 at 2:57:07 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>> <likhpjFt08kU8@mid.individual.net>:
>>>
>>>> On 20/08/2024 22:46, Charlie Glock wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, getting back to your question, the only reasonably sure method for
>>>>> eliminating nasty stuff
>>>>> that might be left on an hdisk is to perform something like a DOD wipe.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> How can one do that on an Apple Mac?
>>>
>>> Apple > System Settings > General > Transfer or Reset
>>>
>>> You will see the option to "Erase all Content and Settings..."
>>
>> Sadly, not on THIS iMac running macOS Ventura. :-(
>>
>> See: https://i.ibb.co/nDgWy3j/Screenshot-2024-08-21-at-08-40-07.png
>
> It should work on Ventura:
>
> https://support.apple.com/en-us/102664
>
> But not on Intel. This is what Apple suggests if it does not work:
>
> https://support.apple.com/en-us/102773
> -----
> 1) Back up or transfer your files
> 2) Sign out of iTunes
> 3) Sign out of iCloud
> 4) Sign out of iMessage
> 5) Unpair Bluetooth devices (optional)
> 6) Erase your Mac
> * Shut down your Mac.
> * Start up from macOS Recovery, then use Disk Utility to erase your
> Mac. For details, follow the steps to use Disk Utility to erase
> your Mac.
> When done, quit Disk Utility but don't restart your Mac.
> ------
>
> They give details for what I numbered 1-5 at the link.

Thank you, Snit!

Whenever I have followed this procedure (many times whilst
experimenting!) I have NOT signed out of iCloud or iMessage beforehand.

How might my failure to do so have impeded a satisfactory erasure.

On Aug 21, 2024 at 11:17:16 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<limp9cF9clbU1@mid.individual.net>:

> On 21/08/2024 17:00, Snit wrote:
>> On Aug 21, 2024 at 12:42:28 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>> <lilk34F3tpfU3@mid.individual.net>:
>>
>>> On 21/08/2024 00:52, Snit wrote:
>>>> On Aug 20, 2024 at 2:57:07 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>> <likhpjFt08kU8@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>
>>>>> On 20/08/2024 22:46, Charlie Glock wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway, getting back to your question, the only reasonably sure method for
>>>>>> eliminating nasty stuff
>>>>>> that might be left on an hdisk is to perform something like a DOD wipe.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>
>>>>> How can one do that on an Apple Mac?
>>>>
>>>> Apple > System Settings > General > Transfer or Reset
>>>>
>>>> You will see the option to "Erase all Content and Settings..."
>>>
>>> Sadly, not on THIS iMac running macOS Ventura. :-(
>>>
>>> See: https://i.ibb.co/nDgWy3j/Screenshot-2024-08-21-at-08-40-07.png
>>
>> It should work on Ventura:
>>
>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/102664
>>
>> But not on Intel. This is what Apple suggests if it does not work:
>>
>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/102773
>> -----
>> 1) Back up or transfer your files
>> 2) Sign out of iTunes
>> 3) Sign out of iCloud
>> 4) Sign out of iMessage
>> 5) Unpair Bluetooth devices (optional)
>> 6) Erase your Mac
>> * Shut down your Mac.
>> * Start up from macOS Recovery, then use Disk Utility to erase your
>> Mac. For details, follow the steps to use Disk Utility to erase
>> your Mac.
>> When done, quit Disk Utility but don't restart your Mac.
>> ------
>>
>> They give details for what I numbered 1-5 at the link.
>
> Thank you, Snit!

Of course. I wish there was more discussion of tech in here. Happy to help.
>
> Whenever I have followed this procedure (many times whilst
> experimenting!) I have NOT signed out of iCloud or iMessage beforehand.

You do not need to, but it makes things easier down the road. You can only
have so many machines tied to the account at a time (I think).
>
> How might my failure to do so have impeded a satisfactory erasure.

It would be erased but Apple would think those devices were still on the
system and it might lead to confusion or a limit.

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On Aug 21, 2024 at 2:40:38 AM MST, "T i m" wrote
<va4cmn$3qgnl$2@dont-email.me>:

> On 21/08/2024 08:42, David Brooks wrote:
> <snip>
>
>>> Apple > System Settings > General > Transfer or Reset
>>>
>>> You will see the option to "Erase all Content and Settings..."
>>
>> Sadly, not on THIS iMac running macOS Ventura. :-(
>>
>> See: https://i.ibb.co/nDgWy3j/Screenshot-2024-08-21-at-08-40-07.png
>
> Looks like your Mac is Intel based so doesn't have the required 'Apple
> silicon' or a T2 Security Chip needed for that feature to be available?
>
> Cheers, T i m

You are correct. The process is a bit more involved for Intel Macs... but I
have pointed him to the steps.

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On 21/08/2024 20:20, Snit wrote:
> On Aug 21, 2024 at 11:17:16 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
> <limp9cF9clbU1@mid.individual.net>:
>
>> On 21/08/2024 17:00, Snit wrote:
>>> On Aug 21, 2024 at 12:42:28 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>> <lilk34F3tpfU3@mid.individual.net>:
>>>
>>>> On 21/08/2024 00:52, Snit wrote:
>>>>> On Aug 20, 2024 at 2:57:07 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>> <likhpjFt08kU8@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 20/08/2024 22:46, Charlie Glock wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyway, getting back to your question, the only reasonably sure method for
>>>>>>> eliminating nasty stuff
>>>>>>> that might be left on an hdisk is to perform something like a DOD wipe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How can one do that on an Apple Mac?
>>>>>
>>>>> Apple > System Settings > General > Transfer or Reset
>>>>>
>>>>> You will see the option to "Erase all Content and Settings..."
>>>>
>>>> Sadly, not on THIS iMac running macOS Ventura. :-(
>>>>
>>>> See: https://i.ibb.co/nDgWy3j/Screenshot-2024-08-21-at-08-40-07.png
>>>
>>> It should work on Ventura:
>>>
>>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/102664
>>>
>>> But not on Intel. This is what Apple suggests if it does not work:
>>>
>>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/102773
>>> -----
>>> 1) Back up or transfer your files
>>> 2) Sign out of iTunes
>>> 3) Sign out of iCloud
>>> 4) Sign out of iMessage
>>> 5) Unpair Bluetooth devices (optional)
>>> 6) Erase your Mac
>>> * Shut down your Mac.
>>> * Start up from macOS Recovery, then use Disk Utility to erase your
>>> Mac. For details, follow the steps to use Disk Utility to erase
>>> your Mac.
>>> When done, quit Disk Utility but don't restart your Mac.
>>> ------
>>>
>>> They give details for what I numbered 1-5 at the link.
>>
>> Thank you, Snit!
>
> Of course. I wish there was more discussion of tech in here. Happy to help.
>>
>> Whenever I have followed this procedure (many times whilst
>> experimenting!) I have NOT signed out of iCloud or iMessage beforehand.
>
> You do not need to, but it makes things easier down the road. You can only
> have so many machines tied to the account at a time (I think).
>>
>> How might my failure to do so have impeded a satisfactory erasure.
>
> It would be erased but Apple would think those devices were still on the
> system and it might lead to confusion or a limit.

Understood. Many thanks. 🙂

On Aug 21, 2024 at 12:45:44 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<limuf8F9clbU8@mid.individual.net>:

> On 21/08/2024 20:20, Snit wrote:
>> On Aug 21, 2024 at 11:17:16 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>> <limp9cF9clbU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>
>>> On 21/08/2024 17:00, Snit wrote:
>>>> On Aug 21, 2024 at 12:42:28 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>> <lilk34F3tpfU3@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>
>>>>> On 21/08/2024 00:52, Snit wrote:
>>>>>> On Aug 20, 2024 at 2:57:07 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>> <likhpjFt08kU8@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 20/08/2024 22:46, Charlie Glock wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyway, getting back to your question, the only reasonably sure method for
>>>>>>>> eliminating nasty stuff
>>>>>>>> that might be left on an hdisk is to perform something like a DOD wipe.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How can one do that on an Apple Mac?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apple > System Settings > General > Transfer or Reset
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You will see the option to "Erase all Content and Settings..."
>>>>>
>>>>> Sadly, not on THIS iMac running macOS Ventura. :-(
>>>>>
>>>>> See: https://i.ibb.co/nDgWy3j/Screenshot-2024-08-21-at-08-40-07.png
>>>>
>>>> It should work on Ventura:
>>>>
>>>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/102664
>>>>
>>>> But not on Intel. This is what Apple suggests if it does not work:
>>>>
>>>> https://support.apple.com/en-us/102773
>>>> -----
>>>> 1) Back up or transfer your files
>>>> 2) Sign out of iTunes
>>>> 3) Sign out of iCloud
>>>> 4) Sign out of iMessage
>>>> 5) Unpair Bluetooth devices (optional)
>>>> 6) Erase your Mac
>>>> * Shut down your Mac.
>>>> * Start up from macOS Recovery, then use Disk Utility to erase your
>>>> Mac. For details, follow the steps to use Disk Utility to erase
>>>> your Mac.
>>>> When done, quit Disk Utility but don't restart your Mac.
>>>> ------
>>>>
>>>> They give details for what I numbered 1-5 at the link.
>>>
>>> Thank you, Snit!
>>
>> Of course. I wish there was more discussion of tech in here. Happy to help.
>>>
>>> Whenever I have followed this procedure (many times whilst
>>> experimenting!) I have NOT signed out of iCloud or iMessage beforehand.
>>
>> You do not need to, but it makes things easier down the road. You can only
>> have so many machines tied to the account at a time (I think).
>>>
>>> How might my failure to do so have impeded a satisfactory erasure.
>>
>> It would be erased but Apple would think those devices were still on the
>> system and it might lead to confusion or a limit.
>
>
> Understood. Many thanks. 🙂

My pleasure.

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They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On 18/08/2024 18:10, David Brooks wrote:
> //I was recently having some problems with iTunes, and decided to
> reinstall macOS Sierra. I held Command+R on startup and clicked on
> "Reinstall macOS" without erasing the hard drive in Disk Utility. Once
> the reinstall was complete, I started back up and all of my files and
> programs were still there, along with my settings, desktop wallpaper,
> and everything else. (The iTunes problems were fixed.)//
>
> What exactly does this "Reinstall" feature do, if it doesn't remove
> programs and change settings to default?//
>
> Here are answers on-line:- https://apple.stackexchange.com/
> questions/276766/what-does-reinstall-macos-do-exactly
>
> How would YOU have answered the OP's question?

What was wrong/inappropriate with asking this question on the ASC forums?

Can you identify anything controversial?

I've asked *WHY* in a new thread in ACW.

On Aug 21, 2024 at 3:54:54 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lin9huFb5gfU6@mid.individual.net>:

> On 18/08/2024 18:10, David Brooks wrote:
>> //I was recently having some problems with iTunes, and decided to
>> reinstall macOS Sierra. I held Command+R on startup and clicked on
>> "Reinstall macOS" without erasing the hard drive in Disk Utility. Once
>> the reinstall was complete, I started back up and all of my files and
>> programs were still there, along with my settings, desktop wallpaper,
>> and everything else. (The iTunes problems were fixed.)//
>>
>> What exactly does this "Reinstall" feature do, if it doesn't remove
>> programs and change settings to default?//
>>
>> Here are answers on-line:- https://apple.stackexchange.com/
>> questions/276766/what-does-reinstall-macos-do-exactly
>>
>> How would YOU have answered the OP's question?
>
>
> What was wrong/inappropriate with asking this question on the ASC forums?

This has been covered. You repeatedly ask both products and developers and
imply they are doing improper things with little or no evidence. This is
deemed inappropriate.
>
> Can you identify anything controversial?
>
> I've asked *WHY* in a new thread in ACW.

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On 22/08/2024 02:03, Snit wrote:
> On Aug 21, 2024 at 3:54:54 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
> <lin9huFb5gfU6@mid.individual.net>:
>
>> On 18/08/2024 18:10, David Brooks wrote:
>>> //I was recently having some problems with iTunes, and decided to
>>> reinstall macOS Sierra. I held Command+R on startup and clicked on
>>> "Reinstall macOS" without erasing the hard drive in Disk Utility. Once
>>> the reinstall was complete, I started back up and all of my files and
>>> programs were still there, along with my settings, desktop wallpaper,
>>> and everything else. (The iTunes problems were fixed.)//
>>>
>>> What exactly does this "Reinstall" feature do, if it doesn't remove
>>> programs and change settings to default?//
>>>
>>> Here are answers on-line:- https://apple.stackexchange.com/
>>> questions/276766/what-does-reinstall-macos-do-exactly
>>>
>>> How would YOU have answered the OP's question?
>>
>>
>> What was wrong/inappropriate with asking this question on the ASC forums?
>
> This has been covered. You repeatedly ask both products and developers and
> imply they are doing improper things with little or no evidence. This is
> deemed inappropriate.

What - in detail - was "inappropriate" in my question?

I'm deadly serious in this quest, Snit.

>> Can you identify anything controversial?
>>
>> I've asked *WHY* in a new thread in ACW.

For what conceivable reason was the question removed?

On 19/08/2024 16:47, Snit wrote:
> On Aug 19, 2024 at 2:47:23 AM MST, "FromTheRafters" wrote
> <v9v4bd$2qpr2$1@dont-email.me>:
>
>> David Brooks used his keyboard to write :
>>> On 18/08/2024 22:06, pothead wrote:
>>>> On 2024-08-18, David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>> On 18/08/2024 21:17, pothead wrote:
>>>>>> On 2024-08-18, David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> //I was recently having some problems with iTunes, and decided to
>>>>>>> reinstall macOS Sierra. I held Command+R on startup and clicked on
>>>>>>> "Reinstall macOS" without erasing the hard drive in Disk Utility. Once
>>>>>>> the reinstall was complete, I started back up and all of my files and
>>>>>>> programs were still there, along with my settings, desktop wallpaper,
>>>>>>> and everything else. (The iTunes problems were fixed.)//
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What exactly does this "Reinstall" feature do, if it doesn't remove
>>>>>>> programs and change settings to default?//
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here are answers on-line:-
>>>>>>> https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/276766/what-does-reinstall-macos-do-exactly
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How would YOU have answered the OP's question?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That article is from 7 years ago.
>>>>>
>>>>> So? Why does that matter?
>>>>
>>>> Because technology changes rapidly.
>>>
>>> This part of macOS has NOT changed at all. How many folk realise that
>>> reinstalling the macOS will NOT eradicate any previously installed malware?
>>
>> You should remember that the procedure is "wipe and reinstall" not just
>> "reinstall" when malware is the problem.
>>
>> https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/mac-help/mh27903/mac
>
> But also keep in mind the need for this with macOS is very rare.

Ha! I'm a past master at doing it, Snit! I love to experiment, simply to
find out answers. 🙂

Just for a moment suppose ..... that some naive Mac user visits the ASC
forums and asks for advice.

Just suppose that they are 'invited' to download and run software which
has not been vetted by the Apple App Store.

Just suppose that it is later suggested that they then re-install their
macOS, which they proceed to do (without first erasing their hard drive)

Everything should then simply 'work' - and it will!

What about malicious code installed at the time as using the unapproved
software? THAT is left untouched on the machine - a hidden backdoor.

Any thoughts on this possible scenario?

--
Kind regards,
David

On Aug 22, 2024 at 6:06:11 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<liore3Fik0sU2@mid.individual.net>:

> On 19/08/2024 16:47, Snit wrote:
>> On Aug 19, 2024 at 2:47:23 AM MST, "FromTheRafters" wrote
>> <v9v4bd$2qpr2$1@dont-email.me>:
>>
>>> David Brooks used his keyboard to write :
>>>> On 18/08/2024 22:06, pothead wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-08-18, David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>> On 18/08/2024 21:17, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2024-08-18, David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> //I was recently having some problems with iTunes, and decided to
>>>>>>>> reinstall macOS Sierra. I held Command+R on startup and clicked on
>>>>>>>> "Reinstall macOS" without erasing the hard drive in Disk Utility. Once
>>>>>>>> the reinstall was complete, I started back up and all of my files and
>>>>>>>> programs were still there, along with my settings, desktop wallpaper,
>>>>>>>> and everything else. (The iTunes problems were fixed.)//
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What exactly does this "Reinstall" feature do, if it doesn't remove
>>>>>>>> programs and change settings to default?//
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here are answers on-line:-
>>>>>>>> https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/276766/what-does-reinstall-macos-do-exactly
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How would YOU have answered the OP's question?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That article is from 7 years ago.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So? Why does that matter?
>>>>>
>>>>> Because technology changes rapidly.
>>>>
>>>> This part of macOS has NOT changed at all. How many folk realise that
>>>> reinstalling the macOS will NOT eradicate any previously installed malware?
>>>
>>> You should remember that the procedure is "wipe and reinstall" not just
>>> "reinstall" when malware is the problem.
>>>
>>> https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/mac-help/mh27903/mac
>>
>> But also keep in mind the need for this with macOS is very rare.
>
> Ha! I'm a past master at doing it, Snit! I love to experiment, simply to
> find out answers. 🙂
>
> Just for a moment suppose ..... that some naive Mac user visits the ASC
> forums and asks for advice.
>
> Just suppose that they are 'invited' to download and run software which
> has not been vetted by the Apple App Store.

Then if it was known bad software the person making the recommendation would
lose their account and others would warn that person. Hopefully not too late.
OK.
>
> Just suppose that it is later suggested that they then re-install their
> macOS, which they proceed to do (without first erasing their hard drive)

If they had been told to download something bad that would not likely be the
advice.

> Everything should then simply 'work' - and it will!
>
> What about malicious code installed at the time as using the unapproved
> software? THAT is left untouched on the machine - a hidden backdoor.
>
> Any thoughts on this possible scenario?

Unbelievably unlikely to the point of not being even the slightest bit of a
concern.

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On Aug 22, 2024 at 5:47:06 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lioqaaFik0sU1@mid.individual.net>:

> On 22/08/2024 02:03, Snit wrote:
>> On Aug 21, 2024 at 3:54:54 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>> <lin9huFb5gfU6@mid.individual.net>:
>>
>>> On 18/08/2024 18:10, David Brooks wrote:
>>>> //I was recently having some problems with iTunes, and decided to
>>>> reinstall macOS Sierra. I held Command+R on startup and clicked on
>>>> "Reinstall macOS" without erasing the hard drive in Disk Utility. Once
>>>> the reinstall was complete, I started back up and all of my files and
>>>> programs were still there, along with my settings, desktop wallpaper,
>>>> and everything else. (The iTunes problems were fixed.)//
>>>>
>>>> What exactly does this "Reinstall" feature do, if it doesn't remove
>>>> programs and change settings to default?//
>>>>
>>>> Here are answers on-line:- https://apple.stackexchange.com/
>>>> questions/276766/what-does-reinstall-macos-do-exactly
>>>>
>>>> How would YOU have answered the OP's question?
>>>
>>>
>>> What was wrong/inappropriate with asking this question on the ASC forums?
>>
>> This has been covered. You repeatedly ask both products and developers and
>> imply they are doing improper things with little or no evidence. This is
>> deemed inappropriate.
>
> What - in detail - was "inappropriate" in my question?

I do not recall all the details -- but we have talked about this before: you
go there asking about apps / developers and suggesting they might be doing
wrong when there is absolutely no evidence they are. This is not even about
Apple software but third party software which is not relevant for the site.
You do this over and over even when asked by them not to. Other than killing
your account how could they have gotten you to stop?
>
> I'm deadly serious in this quest, Snit.
>
>>> Can you identify anything controversial?
>>>
>>> I've asked *WHY* in a new thread in ACW.
>
> For what conceivable reason was the question removed?

Not sure what you are asking about being removed... something in ACW? Not
possible.

--
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They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On 22/08/2024 14:59, Snit wrote:
> On Aug 22, 2024 at 5:47:06 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
> <lioqaaFik0sU1@mid.individual.net>:
>
>> On 22/08/2024 02:03, Snit wrote:
>>> On Aug 21, 2024 at 3:54:54 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>> <lin9huFb5gfU6@mid.individual.net>:
>>>
>>>> On 18/08/2024 18:10, David Brooks wrote:
>>>>> //I was recently having some problems with iTunes, and decided to
>>>>> reinstall macOS Sierra. I held Command+R on startup and clicked on
>>>>> "Reinstall macOS" without erasing the hard drive in Disk Utility. Once
>>>>> the reinstall was complete, I started back up and all of my files and
>>>>> programs were still there, along with my settings, desktop wallpaper,
>>>>> and everything else. (The iTunes problems were fixed.)//
>>>>>
>>>>> What exactly does this "Reinstall" feature do, if it doesn't remove
>>>>> programs and change settings to default?//
>>>>>
>>>>> Here are answers on-line:- https://apple.stackexchange.com/
>>>>> questions/276766/what-does-reinstall-macos-do-exactly
>>>>>
>>>>> How would YOU have answered the OP's question?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What was wrong/inappropriate with asking this question on the ASC forums?
>>>
>>> This has been covered. You repeatedly ask both products and developers and
>>> imply they are doing improper things with little or no evidence. This is
>>> deemed inappropriate.
>>
>> What - in detail - was "inappropriate" in my question?
>
> I do not recall all the details -- but we have talked about this before: you
> go there asking about apps / developers and suggesting they might be doing
> wrong when there is absolutely no evidence they are. This is not even about
> Apple software but third party software which is not relevant for the site.
> You do this over and over even when asked by them not to. Other than killing
> your account how could they have gotten you to stop?

I'm talking about the question posed THIS WEEK!

>> I'm deadly serious in this quest, Snit.
>>
>>>> Can you identify anything controversial?
>>>>
>>>> I've asked *WHY* in a new thread in ACW.
>>
>> For what conceivable reason was the question removed?
>
> Not sure what you are asking about being removed... something in ACW? Not
> possible.

Perhaps someone else will explain if you cannot understand what has been
written so very clearly. <sigh>

On 22/08/2024 14:54, Snit wrote:
> On Aug 22, 2024 at 6:06:11 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
> <liore3Fik0sU2@mid.individual.net>:
>
>> On 19/08/2024 16:47, Snit wrote:
>>> On Aug 19, 2024 at 2:47:23 AM MST, "FromTheRafters" wrote
>>> <v9v4bd$2qpr2$1@dont-email.me>:
>>>
>>>> David Brooks used his keyboard to write :
>>>>> On 18/08/2024 22:06, pothead wrote:
>>>>>> On 2024-08-18, David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 18/08/2024 21:17, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2024-08-18, David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> //I was recently having some problems with iTunes, and decided to
>>>>>>>>> reinstall macOS Sierra. I held Command+R on startup and clicked on
>>>>>>>>> "Reinstall macOS" without erasing the hard drive in Disk Utility. Once
>>>>>>>>> the reinstall was complete, I started back up and all of my files and
>>>>>>>>> programs were still there, along with my settings, desktop wallpaper,
>>>>>>>>> and everything else. (The iTunes problems were fixed.)//
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What exactly does this "Reinstall" feature do, if it doesn't remove
>>>>>>>>> programs and change settings to default?//
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here are answers on-line:-
>>>>>>>>> https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/276766/what-does-reinstall-macos-do-exactly
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How would YOU have answered the OP's question?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That article is from 7 years ago.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So? Why does that matter?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because technology changes rapidly.
>>>>>
>>>>> This part of macOS has NOT changed at all. How many folk realise that
>>>>> reinstalling the macOS will NOT eradicate any previously installed malware?
>>>>
>>>> You should remember that the procedure is "wipe and reinstall" not just
>>>> "reinstall" when malware is the problem.
>>>>
>>>> https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/mac-help/mh27903/mac
>>>
>>> But also keep in mind the need for this with macOS is very rare.
>>
>> Ha! I'm a past master at doing it, Snit! I love to experiment, simply to
>> find out answers. 🙂
>>
>> Just for a moment suppose ..... that some naive Mac user visits the ASC
>> forums and asks for advice.
>>
>> Just suppose that they are 'invited' to download and run software which
>> has not been vetted by the Apple App Store.
>
> Then if it was known bad software the person making the recommendation would
> lose their account and others would warn that person. Hopefully not too late.
> OK.

No - NOT an OK answer.

>> Just suppose that it is later suggested that they then re-install their
>> macOS, which they proceed to do (without first erasing their hard drive)
>
> If they had been told to download something bad that would not likely be the
> advice.

The downloder wouldn't know it was something bad.

>> Everything should then simply 'work' - and it will!
>>
>> What about malicious code installed at the time as using the unapproved
>> software? THAT is left untouched on the machine - a hidden backdoor.
>>
>> Any thoughts on this possible scenario?
>
> Unbelievably unlikely to the point of not being even the slightest bit of a
> concern.

It is of concern - *TO ME*!

On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:47:05 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lip1b9Fjk9uU3@mid.individual.net>:

> On 22/08/2024 14:54, Snit wrote:
>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 6:06:11 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>> <liore3Fik0sU2@mid.individual.net>:
>>
>>> On 19/08/2024 16:47, Snit wrote:
>>>> On Aug 19, 2024 at 2:47:23 AM MST, "FromTheRafters" wrote
>>>> <v9v4bd$2qpr2$1@dont-email.me>:
>>>>
>>>>> David Brooks used his keyboard to write :
>>>>>> On 18/08/2024 22:06, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2024-08-18, David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 18/08/2024 21:17, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2024-08-18, David Brooks <BDB@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> //I was recently having some problems with iTunes, and decided to
>>>>>>>>>> reinstall macOS Sierra. I held Command+R on startup and clicked on
>>>>>>>>>> "Reinstall macOS" without erasing the hard drive in Disk Utility. Once
>>>>>>>>>> the reinstall was complete, I started back up and all of my files and
>>>>>>>>>> programs were still there, along with my settings, desktop wallpaper,
>>>>>>>>>> and everything else. (The iTunes problems were fixed.)//
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What exactly does this "Reinstall" feature do, if it doesn't remove
>>>>>>>>>> programs and change settings to default?//
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Here are answers on-line:-
>>>>>>>>>> https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/276766/what-does-reinstall-macos-do-exactly
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How would YOU have answered the OP's question?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That article is from 7 years ago.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So? Why does that matter?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Because technology changes rapidly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This part of macOS has NOT changed at all. How many folk realise that
>>>>>> reinstalling the macOS will NOT eradicate any previously installed malware?
>>>>>
>>>>> You should remember that the procedure is "wipe and reinstall" not just
>>>>> "reinstall" when malware is the problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/mac-help/mh27903/mac
>>>>
>>>> But also keep in mind the need for this with macOS is very rare.
>>>
>>> Ha! I'm a past master at doing it, Snit! I love to experiment, simply to
>>> find out answers. 🙂
>>>
>>> Just for a moment suppose ..... that some naive Mac user visits the ASC
>>> forums and asks for advice.
>>>
>>> Just suppose that they are 'invited' to download and run software which
>>> has not been vetted by the Apple App Store.
>>
>> Then if it was known bad software the person making the recommendation would
>> lose their account and others would warn that person. Hopefully not too late.
>> OK.
>
> No - NOT an OK answer.

It is the likely answer and one that would likely satisfy most people.

>
>>> Just suppose that it is later suggested that they then re-install their
>>> macOS, which they proceed to do (without first erasing their hard drive)
>>
>> If they had been told to download something bad that would not likely be the
>> advice.
>
> The downloder wouldn't know it was something bad.

See above. If they were invited to download something bad then folks in the
group would not appreciate it, the person would be kicked from the forums, and
instructions on how to deal with the issue would be given to the victims.

>
>>> Everything should then simply 'work' - and it will!
>>>
>>> What about malicious code installed at the time as using the unapproved
>>> software? THAT is left untouched on the machine - a hidden backdoor.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts on this possible scenario?
>>
>> Unbelievably unlikely to the point of not being even the slightest bit of a
>> concern.
>
> It is of concern - *TO ME*!

Do you have plans on how to handle these concerns which are not based on
anything other than EXTREMELY unlikely scenarios?

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:41:23 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lip10jFjk9uU2@mid.individual.net>:

> On 22/08/2024 14:59, Snit wrote:
>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 5:47:06 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>> <lioqaaFik0sU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>
>>> On 22/08/2024 02:03, Snit wrote:
>>>> On Aug 21, 2024 at 3:54:54 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>> <lin9huFb5gfU6@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>
>>>>> On 18/08/2024 18:10, David Brooks wrote:
>>>>>> //I was recently having some problems with iTunes, and decided to
>>>>>> reinstall macOS Sierra. I held Command+R on startup and clicked on
>>>>>> "Reinstall macOS" without erasing the hard drive in Disk Utility. Once
>>>>>> the reinstall was complete, I started back up and all of my files and
>>>>>> programs were still there, along with my settings, desktop wallpaper,
>>>>>> and everything else. (The iTunes problems were fixed.)//
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What exactly does this "Reinstall" feature do, if it doesn't remove
>>>>>> programs and change settings to default?//
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here are answers on-line:- https://apple.stackexchange.com/
>>>>>> questions/276766/what-does-reinstall-macos-do-exactly
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How would YOU have answered the OP's question?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What was wrong/inappropriate with asking this question on the ASC forums?
>>>>
>>>> This has been covered. You repeatedly ask both products and developers and
>>>> imply they are doing improper things with little or no evidence. This is
>>>> deemed inappropriate.
>>>
>>> What - in detail - was "inappropriate" in my question?
>>
>> I do not recall all the details -- but we have talked about this before: you
>> go there asking about apps / developers and suggesting they might be doing
>> wrong when there is absolutely no evidence they are. This is not even about
>> Apple software but third party software which is not relevant for the site.
>> You do this over and over even when asked by them not to. Other than killing
>> your account how could they have gotten you to stop?
>
> I'm talking about the question posed THIS WEEK!

Was it a part of a pattern of exaggerated and inappropriate concern you have
expressed there?
>
>>> I'm deadly serious in this quest, Snit.
>>>
>>>>> Can you identify anything controversial?
>>>>>
>>>>> I've asked *WHY* in a new thread in ACW.
>>>
>>> For what conceivable reason was the question removed?
>>
>> Not sure what you are asking about being removed... something in ACW? Not
>> possible.
>
> Perhaps someone else will explain if you cannot understand what has been
> written so very clearly. <sigh>

The question on the Apple forum... you posted the reasons why. Surely you do
not mean that, do you?

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On 22/08/2024 17:49, Snit wrote:
> On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:41:23 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
> <lip10jFjk9uU2@mid.individual.net>:
>
>> On 22/08/2024 14:59, Snit wrote:
>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 5:47:06 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>> <lioqaaFik0sU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>
>>>> On 22/08/2024 02:03, Snit wrote:
>>>>> On Aug 21, 2024 at 3:54:54 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>> <lin9huFb5gfU6@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 18/08/2024 18:10, David Brooks wrote:
>>>>>>> //I was recently having some problems with iTunes, and decided to
>>>>>>> reinstall macOS Sierra. I held Command+R on startup and clicked on
>>>>>>> "Reinstall macOS" without erasing the hard drive in Disk Utility. Once
>>>>>>> the reinstall was complete, I started back up and all of my files and
>>>>>>> programs were still there, along with my settings, desktop wallpaper,
>>>>>>> and everything else. (The iTunes problems were fixed.)//
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What exactly does this "Reinstall" feature do, if it doesn't remove
>>>>>>> programs and change settings to default?//
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here are answers on-line:- https://apple.stackexchange.com/
>>>>>>> questions/276766/what-does-reinstall-macos-do-exactly
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How would YOU have answered the OP's question?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What was wrong/inappropriate with asking this question on the ASC forums?
>>>>>
>>>>> This has been covered. You repeatedly ask both products and developers and
>>>>> imply they are doing improper things with little or no evidence. This is
>>>>> deemed inappropriate.
>>>>
>>>> What - in detail - was "inappropriate" in my question?
>>>
>>> I do not recall all the details -- but we have talked about this before: you
>>> go there asking about apps / developers and suggesting they might be doing
>>> wrong when there is absolutely no evidence they are. This is not even about
>>> Apple software but third party software which is not relevant for the site.
>>> You do this over and over even when asked by them not to. Other than killing
>>> your account how could they have gotten you to stop?
>>
>> I'm talking about the question posed THIS WEEK!
>
> Was it a part of a pattern of exaggerated and inappropriate concern you have
> expressed there?

Absolutely not.

>>>> I'm deadly serious in this quest, Snit.
>>>>
>>>>>> Can you identify anything controversial?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've asked *WHY* in a new thread in ACW.
>>>>
>>>> For what conceivable reason was the question removed?
>>>
>>> Not sure what you are asking about being removed... something in ACW? Not
>>> possible.
>>
>> Perhaps someone else will explain if you cannot understand what has been
>> written so very clearly. <sigh>
>
> The question on the Apple forum... you posted the reasons why. Surely you do
> not mean that, do you?

I posted the same question here in ACW

On Aug 22, 2024 at 10:16:37 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
<lipa3lFkrm3U2@mid.individual.net>:

> On 22/08/2024 17:49, Snit wrote:
>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:41:23 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>> <lip10jFjk9uU2@mid.individual.net>:
>>
>>> On 22/08/2024 14:59, Snit wrote:
>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 5:47:06 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>> <lioqaaFik0sU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>
>>>>> On 22/08/2024 02:03, Snit wrote:
>>>>>> On Aug 21, 2024 at 3:54:54 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>> <lin9huFb5gfU6@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 18/08/2024 18:10, David Brooks wrote:
>>>>>>>> //I was recently having some problems with iTunes, and decided to
>>>>>>>> reinstall macOS Sierra. I held Command+R on startup and clicked on
>>>>>>>> "Reinstall macOS" without erasing the hard drive in Disk Utility. Once
>>>>>>>> the reinstall was complete, I started back up and all of my files and
>>>>>>>> programs were still there, along with my settings, desktop wallpaper,
>>>>>>>> and everything else. (The iTunes problems were fixed.)//
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What exactly does this "Reinstall" feature do, if it doesn't remove
>>>>>>>> programs and change settings to default?//
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Here are answers on-line:- https://apple.stackexchange.com/
>>>>>>>> questions/276766/what-does-reinstall-macos-do-exactly
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How would YOU have answered the OP's question?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What was wrong/inappropriate with asking this question on the ASC forums?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This has been covered. You repeatedly ask both products and developers and
>>>>>> imply they are doing improper things with little or no evidence. This is
>>>>>> deemed inappropriate.
>>>>>
>>>>> What - in detail - was "inappropriate" in my question?
>>>>
>>>> I do not recall all the details -- but we have talked about this before: you
>>>> go there asking about apps / developers and suggesting they might be doing
>>>> wrong when there is absolutely no evidence they are. This is not even about
>>>> Apple software but third party software which is not relevant for the site.
>>>> You do this over and over even when asked by them not to. Other than killing
>>>> your account how could they have gotten you to stop?
>>>
>>> I'm talking about the question posed THIS WEEK!
>>
>> Was it a part of a pattern of exaggerated and inappropriate concern you have
>> expressed there?
>
> Absolutely not.

What was it about?

>
>>>>> I'm deadly serious in this quest, Snit.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can you identify anything controversial?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've asked *WHY* in a new thread in ACW.
>>>>>
>>>>> For what conceivable reason was the question removed?
>>>>
>>>> Not sure what you are asking about being removed... something in ACW? Not
>>>> possible.
>>>
>>> Perhaps someone else will explain if you cannot understand what has been
>>> written so very clearly. <sigh>
>>
>> The question on the Apple forum... you posted the reasons why. Surely you do
>> not mean that, do you?
>
> I posted the same question here in ACW

What Message ID?

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They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On 22/08/2024 14:06, David Brooks wrote:

<snip>

> Just for a moment suppose ..... that some naive Mac user visits the ASC
> forums and asks for advice.
>
> Just suppose that they are 'invited' to download and run software which
> has not been vetted by the Apple App Store.
>
> Just suppose that it is later suggested that they then re-install their
> macOS, which they proceed to do (without first erasing their hard drive)
>
> Everything should then simply 'work' - and it will!
>
> What about malicious code installed at the time as using the unapproved
> software? THAT is left untouched on the machine - a hidden backdoor.
>
> Any thoughts on this possible scenario?
>
Yes, I actually *know* the answer to this. They got you to download bad
stuff in the hope it would take you offline, hopefully forever.

It didn't work so thy had to ban you.

It's what I would have done if I was a user / admin on that site.

Cheers, T i m

On 22/08/2024 18:17, Snit wrote:
> On Aug 22, 2024 at 10:16:37 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
> <lipa3lFkrm3U2@mid.individual.net>:
>
>> On 22/08/2024 17:49, Snit wrote:
>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 7:41:23 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>> <lip10jFjk9uU2@mid.individual.net>:
>>>
>>>> On 22/08/2024 14:59, Snit wrote:
>>>>> On Aug 22, 2024 at 5:47:06 AM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>> <lioqaaFik0sU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 22/08/2024 02:03, Snit wrote:
>>>>>>> On Aug 21, 2024 at 3:54:54 PM MST, "David Brooks" wrote
>>>>>>> <lin9huFb5gfU6@mid.individual.net>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 18/08/2024 18:10, David Brooks wrote:
>>>>>>>>> //I was recently having some problems with iTunes, and decided to
>>>>>>>>> reinstall macOS Sierra. I held Command+R on startup and clicked on
>>>>>>>>> "Reinstall macOS" without erasing the hard drive in Disk Utility. Once
>>>>>>>>> the reinstall was complete, I started back up and all of my files and
>>>>>>>>> programs were still there, along with my settings, desktop wallpaper,
>>>>>>>>> and everything else. (The iTunes problems were fixed.)//
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What exactly does this "Reinstall" feature do, if it doesn't remove
>>>>>>>>> programs and change settings to default?//
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here are answers on-line:- https://apple.stackexchange.com/
>>>>>>>>> questions/276766/what-does-reinstall-macos-do-exactly
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How would YOU have answered the OP's question?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What was wrong/inappropriate with asking this question on the ASC forums?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This has been covered. You repeatedly ask both products and developers and
>>>>>>> imply they are doing improper things with little or no evidence. This is
>>>>>>> deemed inappropriate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What - in detail - was "inappropriate" in my question?
>>>>>
>>>>> I do not recall all the details -- but we have talked about this before: you
>>>>> go there asking about apps / developers and suggesting they might be doing
>>>>> wrong when there is absolutely no evidence they are. This is not even about
>>>>> Apple software but third party software which is not relevant for the site.
>>>>> You do this over and over even when asked by them not to. Other than killing
>>>>> your account how could they have gotten you to stop?
>>>>
>>>> I'm talking about the question posed THIS WEEK!
>>>
>>> Was it a part of a pattern of exaggerated and inappropriate concern you have
>>> expressed there?
>>
>> Absolutely not.
>
> What was it about?

Are you kidding me Snit?

>>>>>> I'm deadly serious in this quest, Snit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can you identify anything controversial?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've asked *WHY* in a new thread in ACW.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For what conceivable reason was the question removed?
>>>>>
>>>>> Not sure what you are asking about being removed... something in ACW? Not
>>>>> possible.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps someone else will explain if you cannot understand what has been
>>>> written so very clearly. <sigh>
>>>
>>> The question on the Apple forum... you posted the reasons why. Surely you do
>>> not mean that, do you?
>>
>> I posted the same question here in ACW
>
> What Message ID?

<liom1iFi2vaU1@mid.individual.net>