Rocksolid Light

News from da outaworlds

mail  files  register  groups  login

Message-ID:  

BOFH excuse #420: Feature was not beta tested

comp / comp.sys.mac.system / Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple's failed R&D efforts)

SubjectAuthor
* iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple's faiAndrew
`* Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple'sbadgolferman
 +* Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple'sAlan
 |`* Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple'sEnrico Papaloma
 | `* Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple'sAlan
 |  `* Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple'sEnrico Papaloma
 |   `* Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple'sAlan
 |    `* Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple'sTyrone
 |     `* Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple'sAlan
 |      `* Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple'sTyrone
 |       `- Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple'sAlan
 `* Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple'sAndrew
  `* Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple'sbadgolferman
   +* Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple'sAndrew
   |`* Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple'sbadgolferman
   | +- Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple'sAndrew
   | `* Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple'sAlan
   |  `* Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple'sbadgolferman
   |   `* Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple'sAlan
   |    `* Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple'sbadgolferman
   |     `* Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple'sAlan
   |      `* Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple'sbadgolferman
   |       +- Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple'sAndrew
   |       +- Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple'sAlan
   |       `* Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple'sbadgolferman
   |        `* Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple'sAlan
   |         `* Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple'sbadgolferman
   |          `* Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple'sAlan
   |           `* Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple'sbadgolferman
   |            +* Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple'sAlan
   |            |`* Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple'sbadgolferman
   |            | `* Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple'sAlan
   |            |  `* Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple'sNews
   |            |   `- Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple'sAlan
   |            `- Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple'sYour Name
   `* Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple'sYour Name
    `- Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple'sAndrew

Pages:12
Subject: Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple's failed R&D efforts)
From: Alan
Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2024 05:16 UTC
References: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: nuh-uh@nope.com (Alan)
Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due
to Apple's failed R&D efforts)
Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2024 22:16:39 -0700
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 13
Message-ID: <v8pn7n$gu4v$1@dont-email.me>
References: <v8hnso$148k$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
<xn0op39w7pkxotf00b@reader443.eternal-september.org>
<v8j88k$2bte$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
<xn0op3bkdpn7jxs00d@reader443.eternal-september.org>
<v8jchs$27n4$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <v8jeog$mtgi$1@solani.org>
<v8okgh$6v5h$1@dont-email.me> <v8ossj$pvg0$1@solani.org>
<v8p1ng$9dec$4@dont-email.me> <v8p3sr$q2a2$1@solani.org>
<v8p43d$9dec$6@dont-email.me> <v8p53i$q2nt$1@solani.org>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Injection-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2024 07:16:40 +0200 (CEST)
Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="1b5244ff5a70322e25e255d0d7dc483c";
logging-data="555167"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19pCvto72bjxL+0rAIcJXrzB33nbaX4zgI="
User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
Cancel-Lock: sha1:ZjHU3jycwG17O+tOmXw3jGgv+7U=
Content-Language: en-CA
In-Reply-To: <v8p53i$q2nt$1@solani.org>
View all headers

On 2024-08-04 17:07, badgolferman wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>
>>
>> But your argument was that Apple wasn't doing much lately.
>>
>> Implying that others were.
>>
>
> You inferred incorrectly.
>

I don't think so.

Subject: Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple's failed R&D efforts)
From: badgolferman
Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.system
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2024 10:10 UTC
References: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!reader5.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com (badgolferman)
Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter
(perhaps due to Apple's failed R&D efforts)
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2024 10:10:14 -0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: <v8q8e5$qja9$1@solani.org>
References: <v8hnso$148k$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
<xn0op39w7pkxotf00b@reader443.eternal-september.org>
<v8j88k$2bte$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
<xn0op3bkdpn7jxs00d@reader443.eternal-september.org>
<v8jchs$27n4$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
<v8jeog$mtgi$1@solani.org>
<v8okgh$6v5h$1@dont-email.me>
<v8ossj$pvg0$1@solani.org>
<v8p1ng$9dec$4@dont-email.me>
<v8p3sr$q2a2$1@solani.org>
<v8p43d$9dec$6@dont-email.me>
<v8p53i$q2nt$1@solani.org>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Injection-Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2024 10:10:14 -0000 (UTC)
Injection-Info: solani.org;
logging-data="871753"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@news.solani.org"
User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPhone/iPod Touch)
Cancel-Lock: sha1:gwHiB3R3tZtG8xoc6BfFrfUIbi4= sha1:1W7/psO8BLyfaE3YuGzJ1JdW4U4=
X-User-ID: eJwFwQkBwDAIA0BLZRAeOSUU/xJ2B3VxhjncsFi+gL6ab8/JHLAuJaY+mbe3iXKuP0olwrVhHttWk6Kg9g9q0BXi
View all headers

badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>
>>
>> But your argument was that Apple wasn't doing much lately.
>>
>> Implying that others were.
>>
>
> You inferred incorrectly.
>
>

Yes, you did.

The topic was about Apple. Other smartphone companies were not mentioned by
me.

Subject: Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple's failed R&D efforts)
From: Alan
Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2024 16:21 UTC
References: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13
Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: nuh-uh@nope.com (Alan)
Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due
to Apple's failed R&D efforts)
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2024 09:21:10 -0700
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 27
Message-ID: <v8qu5m$jbt4$1@dont-email.me>
References: <v8hnso$148k$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
<xn0op39w7pkxotf00b@reader443.eternal-september.org>
<v8j88k$2bte$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
<xn0op3bkdpn7jxs00d@reader443.eternal-september.org>
<v8jchs$27n4$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <v8jeog$mtgi$1@solani.org>
<v8okgh$6v5h$1@dont-email.me> <v8ossj$pvg0$1@solani.org>
<v8p1ng$9dec$4@dont-email.me> <v8p3sr$q2a2$1@solani.org>
<v8p43d$9dec$6@dont-email.me> <v8p53i$q2nt$1@solani.org>
<v8q8e5$qja9$1@solani.org>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Injection-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2024 18:21:11 +0200 (CEST)
Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="1b5244ff5a70322e25e255d0d7dc483c";
logging-data="634788"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19EtOE53EFbZlXXd3p5pxhBLi0dctnLPvk="
User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
Cancel-Lock: sha1:bVkuNzjUmuNPM+y+NTWDbZx8gwk=
In-Reply-To: <v8q8e5$qja9$1@solani.org>
Content-Language: en-CA
View all headers

On 2024-08-05 03:10, badgolferman wrote:
> badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>> But your argument was that Apple wasn't doing much lately.
>>>
>>> Implying that others were.
>>>
>>
>> You inferred incorrectly.
>>
>>
>
> Yes, you did.
>
> The topic was about Apple. Other smartphone companies were not mentioned by
> me.
>

But implicit any discussion of whether someone (person or company) is
doing enough of something is that it must be in relation to some standard.

I can drive very fast in my Formula F Honda open wheel race car...

....but it's only very fast if I compare it against other Formula F cars
at the same track.

Subject: Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple's failed R&D efforts)
From: badgolferman
Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2024 21:13 UTC
References: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14
Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com (badgolferman)
Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple's failed R&D efforts)
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2024 21:13:23 -0000 (UTC)
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 34
Message-ID: <xn0op7n3eu2mvvt000@reader443.eternal-september.org>
References: <v8hnso$148k$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <xn0op39w7pkxotf00b@reader443.eternal-september.org> <v8j88k$2bte$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <xn0op3bkdpn7jxs00d@reader443.eternal-september.org> <v8jchs$27n4$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <v8jeog$mtgi$1@solani.org> <v8okgh$6v5h$1@dont-email.me> <v8ossj$pvg0$1@solani.org> <v8p1ng$9dec$4@dont-email.me> <v8p3sr$q2a2$1@solani.org> <v8p43d$9dec$6@dont-email.me> <v8p53i$q2nt$1@solani.org> <v8q8e5$qja9$1@solani.org> <v8qu5m$jbt4$1@dont-email.me>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Injection-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2024 23:13:23 +0200 (CEST)
Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="53c8b7b2f2bebe7131342135d4ae97f9";
logging-data="1160079"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19uZhBxI3W2QIp7Adi/cLm4AtljpxJfXRE="
User-Agent: XanaNews/1.19.1.372 (x86; Portable ISpell)
Cancel-Lock: sha1:ZJmurVVCFLXk6LJKf2MtUxk6RkM=
X-Ref: reader443.eternal-september.org ~XNS:00002C34
X-Face: 09>j%-W3HnyolA\I${DXfUw}~nKyLDiU8IwUVM'`
View all headers

Alan wrote:

>On 2024-08-05 03:10, badgolferman wrote:
>>badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>But your argument was that Apple wasn't doing much lately.
>>>>
>>>>Implying that others were.
>>>>
>>>
>>>You inferred incorrectly.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Yes, you did.
>>
>>The topic was about Apple. Other smartphone companies were not
>>mentioned by me.
>>
>
>But implicit any discussion of whether someone (person or company) is
>doing enough of something is that it must be in relation to some
>standard.
>
>I can drive very fast in my Formula F Honda open wheel race car...
>
>...but it's only very fast if I compare it against other Formula F
>cars at the same track.

No. It's not anything innovative if it's not better than previous
versions of itself.

Subject: Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple's failed R&D efforts)
From: Alan
Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2024 21:19 UTC
References: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15
Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: nuh-uh@nope.com (Alan)
Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due
to Apple's failed R&D efforts)
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2024 14:19:45 -0700
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 42
Message-ID: <v8rfli$131u5$3@dont-email.me>
References: <v8hnso$148k$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
<xn0op39w7pkxotf00b@reader443.eternal-september.org>
<v8j88k$2bte$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
<xn0op3bkdpn7jxs00d@reader443.eternal-september.org>
<v8jchs$27n4$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <v8jeog$mtgi$1@solani.org>
<v8okgh$6v5h$1@dont-email.me> <v8ossj$pvg0$1@solani.org>
<v8p1ng$9dec$4@dont-email.me> <v8p3sr$q2a2$1@solani.org>
<v8p43d$9dec$6@dont-email.me> <v8p53i$q2nt$1@solani.org>
<v8q8e5$qja9$1@solani.org> <v8qu5m$jbt4$1@dont-email.me>
<xn0op7n3eu2mvvt000@reader443.eternal-september.org>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Injection-Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2024 23:19:47 +0200 (CEST)
Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="1b5244ff5a70322e25e255d0d7dc483c";
logging-data="1148869"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX183VGwLBs5MT8TRiWuFVL1OpNvad+7V+S0="
User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
Cancel-Lock: sha1:40McsbSuYbxyartSWcsWCsS35p4=
In-Reply-To: <xn0op7n3eu2mvvt000@reader443.eternal-september.org>
Content-Language: en-CA
View all headers

On 2024-08-05 14:13, badgolferman wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>
>> On 2024-08-05 03:10, badgolferman wrote:
>>> badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> But your argument was that Apple wasn't doing much lately.
>>>>>
>>>>> Implying that others were.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You inferred incorrectly.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, you did.
>>>
>>> The topic was about Apple. Other smartphone companies were not
>>> mentioned by me.
>>>
>>
>> But implicit any discussion of whether someone (person or company) is
>> doing enough of something is that it must be in relation to some
>> standard.
>>
>> I can drive very fast in my Formula F Honda open wheel race car...
>>
>> ...but it's only very fast if I compare it against other Formula F
>> cars at the same track.
>
>
> No. It's not anything innovative if it's not better than previous
> versions of itself.

But your argument was about the PACE of innovation.

Is Apple's pace of innovation noticeably worse than any other smartphone
manufacturer's?

Seriously, I had thought you smarter than this.

Subject: Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple's failed R&D efforts)
From: badgolferman
Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2024 15:42 UTC
References: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16
Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com (badgolferman)
Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple's failed R&D efforts)
Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2024 15:42:09 -0000 (UTC)
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 46
Message-ID: <xn0op8sw4v68s2l002@reader443.eternal-september.org>
References: <v8hnso$148k$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <xn0op39w7pkxotf00b@reader443.eternal-september.org> <v8j88k$2bte$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <xn0op3bkdpn7jxs00d@reader443.eternal-september.org> <v8jchs$27n4$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <v8jeog$mtgi$1@solani.org> <v8okgh$6v5h$1@dont-email.me> <v8ossj$pvg0$1@solani.org> <v8p1ng$9dec$4@dont-email.me> <v8p3sr$q2a2$1@solani.org> <v8p43d$9dec$6@dont-email.me> <v8p53i$q2nt$1@solani.org> <v8q8e5$qja9$1@solani.org> <v8qu5m$jbt4$1@dont-email.me> <xn0op7n3eu2mvvt000@reader443.eternal-september.org> <v8rfli$131u5$3@dont-email.me>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Injection-Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2024 17:42:10 +0200 (CEST)
Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="ac46be96452c7782236cf1d574edf796";
logging-data="1771160"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/bJsHMQau7F0/XT/zZdH3jzRKsXJ+GQmM="
User-Agent: XanaNews/1.19.1.372 (x86; Portable ISpell)
Cancel-Lock: sha1:VqxEfKtY1wNPdaakB13TqphQto0=
X-Face: 09>j%-W3HnyolA\I${DXfUw}~nKyLDiU8IwUVM'`
X-Ref: reader443.eternal-september.org ~XNS:00002C37
View all headers

Alan wrote:

>On 2024-08-05 14:13, badgolferman wrote:
>>Alan wrote:
>>
>>>On 2024-08-05 03:10, badgolferman wrote:
>>>>badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>But your argument was that Apple wasn't doing much lately.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Implying that others were.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>You inferred incorrectly.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Yes, you did.
>>>>
>>>>The topic was about Apple. Other smartphone companies were not
>>>>mentioned by me.
>>>>
>>>
>>>But implicit any discussion of whether someone (person or
>>>company) is doing enough of something is that it must be in
>>>relation to some standard.
>>>
>>>I can drive very fast in my Formula F Honda open wheel race car...
>>>
>>>...but it's only very fast if I compare it against other Formula F
>>>cars at the same track.
>>
>>
>>No. It's not anything innovative if it's not better than previous
>>versions of itself.
>
>But your argument was about the PACE of innovation.
>
>Is Apple's pace of innovation noticeably worse than any other
>smartphone manufacturer's?
>

No, you are the one constantly comparing to other manufacturers. This
is an Apple newsgroup and that's what I am concentrating on.

Subject: Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple's failed R&D efforts)
From: Alan
Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2024 15:43 UTC
References: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17
Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: nuh-uh@nope.com (Alan)
Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due
to Apple's failed R&D efforts)
Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2024 08:43:25 -0700
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 49
Message-ID: <v8tgat$1lmol$1@dont-email.me>
References: <v8hnso$148k$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
<xn0op39w7pkxotf00b@reader443.eternal-september.org>
<v8j88k$2bte$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
<xn0op3bkdpn7jxs00d@reader443.eternal-september.org>
<v8jchs$27n4$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <v8jeog$mtgi$1@solani.org>
<v8okgh$6v5h$1@dont-email.me> <v8ossj$pvg0$1@solani.org>
<v8p1ng$9dec$4@dont-email.me> <v8p3sr$q2a2$1@solani.org>
<v8p43d$9dec$6@dont-email.me> <v8p53i$q2nt$1@solani.org>
<v8q8e5$qja9$1@solani.org> <v8qu5m$jbt4$1@dont-email.me>
<xn0op7n3eu2mvvt000@reader443.eternal-september.org>
<v8rfli$131u5$3@dont-email.me>
<xn0op8sw4v68s2l002@reader443.eternal-september.org>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Injection-Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2024 17:43:25 +0200 (CEST)
Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="c1057e2006d33d5ed6435ca4141bdfec";
logging-data="1760021"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/trB+ALIp4sk0m05bnGEHL5vhaWR7v+qc="
User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
Cancel-Lock: sha1:2NZXzglBV6H5MpkUl8yiQ3PreUM=
Content-Language: en-CA
In-Reply-To: <xn0op8sw4v68s2l002@reader443.eternal-september.org>
View all headers

On 2024-08-06 08:42, badgolferman wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>
>> On 2024-08-05 14:13, badgolferman wrote:
>>> Alan wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-08-05 03:10, badgolferman wrote:
>>>>> badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But your argument was that Apple wasn't doing much lately.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Implying that others were.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You inferred incorrectly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, you did.
>>>>>
>>>>> The topic was about Apple. Other smartphone companies were not
>>>>> mentioned by me.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> But implicit any discussion of whether someone (person or
>>>> company) is doing enough of something is that it must be in
>>>> relation to some standard.
>>>>
>>>> I can drive very fast in my Formula F Honda open wheel race car...
>>>>
>>>> ...but it's only very fast if I compare it against other Formula F
>>>> cars at the same track.
>>>
>>>
>>> No. It's not anything innovative if it's not better than previous
>>> versions of itself.
>>
>> But your argument was about the PACE of innovation.
>>
>> Is Apple's pace of innovation noticeably worse than any other
>> smartphone manufacturer's?
>>
>
> No, you are the one constantly comparing to other manufacturers. This
> is an Apple newsgroup and that's what I am concentrating on.

Pace of anything requires a comparison; it is implicit.

Subject: Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple's failed R&D efforts)
From: badgolferman
Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2024 16:16 UTC
References: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18
Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com (badgolferman)
Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple's failed R&D efforts)
Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2024 16:16:27 -0000 (UTC)
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 60
Message-ID: <xn0op8tu4v7gvf4003@reader443.eternal-september.org>
References: <v8hnso$148k$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <xn0op39w7pkxotf00b@reader443.eternal-september.org> <v8j88k$2bte$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <xn0op3bkdpn7jxs00d@reader443.eternal-september.org> <v8jchs$27n4$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <v8jeog$mtgi$1@solani.org> <v8okgh$6v5h$1@dont-email.me> <v8ossj$pvg0$1@solani.org> <v8p1ng$9dec$4@dont-email.me> <v8p3sr$q2a2$1@solani.org> <v8p43d$9dec$6@dont-email.me> <v8p53i$q2nt$1@solani.org> <v8q8e5$qja9$1@solani.org> <v8qu5m$jbt4$1@dont-email.me> <xn0op7n3eu2mvvt000@reader443.eternal-september.org> <v8rfli$131u5$3@dont-email.me> <xn0op8sw4v68s2l002@reader443.eternal-september.org> <v8tgat$1lmol$1@dont-email.me>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Injection-Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2024 18:16:27 +0200 (CEST)
Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="ac46be96452c7782236cf1d574edf796";
logging-data="1791453"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18d7G0pCQDUiHsXx6TDqXj6tJNPNSPn6Nw="
User-Agent: XanaNews/1.19.1.372 (x86; Portable ISpell)
Cancel-Lock: sha1:ixIF460Q6NUF/WQhMMuLtafKBxg=
X-Face: 09>j%-W3HnyolA\I${DXfUw}~nKyLDiU8IwUVM'`
X-Ref: reader443.eternal-september.org ~XNS:00002C38
View all headers

Alan wrote:

>On 2024-08-06 08:42, badgolferman wrote:
>>Alan wrote:
>>
>>>On 2024-08-05 14:13, badgolferman wrote:
>>>>Alan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On 2024-08-05 03:10, badgolferman wrote:
>>>>>>badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>But your argument was that Apple wasn't doing much
>>>>>>>>lately.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Implying that others were.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You inferred incorrectly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Yes, you did.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The topic was about Apple. Other smartphone companies were
>>>>>>not mentioned by me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>But implicit any discussion of whether someone (person or
>>>>>company) is doing enough of something is that it must be in
>>>>>relation to some standard.
>>>>>
>>>>>I can drive very fast in my Formula F Honda open wheel race
>>>>>car...
>>>>>
>>>>>...but it's only very fast if I compare it against other
>>>>>Formula F cars at the same track.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>No. It's not anything innovative if it's not better than
>>>>previous versions of itself.
>>>
>>>But your argument was about the PACE of innovation.
>>>
>>>Is Apple's pace of innovation noticeably worse than any other
>>>smartphone manufacturer's?
>>>
>>
>>No, you are the one constantly comparing to other manufacturers.
>>This is an Apple newsgroup and that's what I am concentrating on.
>
>Pace of anything requires a comparison; it is implicit.

I already gave you a comparison. It's not my fault your reading
comprehension is suspect.

You just want to argue and I'm going to let you do that with yourself
now.

Subject: Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple's failed R&D efforts)
From: Alan
Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2024 16:38 UTC
References: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19
Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: nuh-uh@nope.com (Alan)
Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due
to Apple's failed R&D efforts)
Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2024 09:38:53 -0700
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 63
Message-ID: <v8tjit$1ma9d$1@dont-email.me>
References: <v8hnso$148k$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
<xn0op39w7pkxotf00b@reader443.eternal-september.org>
<v8j88k$2bte$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
<xn0op3bkdpn7jxs00d@reader443.eternal-september.org>
<v8jchs$27n4$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <v8jeog$mtgi$1@solani.org>
<v8okgh$6v5h$1@dont-email.me> <v8ossj$pvg0$1@solani.org>
<v8p1ng$9dec$4@dont-email.me> <v8p3sr$q2a2$1@solani.org>
<v8p43d$9dec$6@dont-email.me> <v8p53i$q2nt$1@solani.org>
<v8q8e5$qja9$1@solani.org> <v8qu5m$jbt4$1@dont-email.me>
<xn0op7n3eu2mvvt000@reader443.eternal-september.org>
<v8rfli$131u5$3@dont-email.me>
<xn0op8sw4v68s2l002@reader443.eternal-september.org>
<v8tgat$1lmol$1@dont-email.me>
<xn0op8tu4v7gvf4003@reader443.eternal-september.org>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Injection-Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2024 18:38:54 +0200 (CEST)
Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="c1057e2006d33d5ed6435ca4141bdfec";
logging-data="1780013"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+PHE5LoGB67OXRFieoHrRxuVn4Zk38N/4="
User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
Cancel-Lock: sha1:TU785jmF7WDdsSd518S+yniyLCg=
Content-Language: en-CA
In-Reply-To: <xn0op8tu4v7gvf4003@reader443.eternal-september.org>
View all headers

On 2024-08-06 09:16, badgolferman wrote:
> Alan wrote:
>
>> On 2024-08-06 08:42, badgolferman wrote:
>>> Alan wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-08-05 14:13, badgolferman wrote:
>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2024-08-05 03:10, badgolferman wrote:
>>>>>>> badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But your argument was that Apple wasn't doing much
>>>>>>>>> lately.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Implying that others were.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You inferred incorrectly.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, you did.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The topic was about Apple. Other smartphone companies were
>>>>>>> not mentioned by me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But implicit any discussion of whether someone (person or
>>>>>> company) is doing enough of something is that it must be in
>>>>>> relation to some standard.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can drive very fast in my Formula F Honda open wheel race
>>>>>> car...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...but it's only very fast if I compare it against other
>>>>>> Formula F cars at the same track.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No. It's not anything innovative if it's not better than
>>>>> previous versions of itself.
>>>>
>>>> But your argument was about the PACE of innovation.
>>>>
>>>> Is Apple's pace of innovation noticeably worse than any other
>>>> smartphone manufacturer's?
>>>>
>>>
>>> No, you are the one constantly comparing to other manufacturers.
>>> This is an Apple newsgroup and that's what I am concentrating on.
>>
>> Pace of anything requires a comparison; it is implicit.
>
>
> I already gave you a comparison. It's not my fault your reading
> comprehension is suspect.

No, you didn't.

You specifically incorporated all other smartphone manufacturers when
you said "the mobile phone hasn't done much lately". Not "the iPhone".

Subject: Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple's failed R&D efforts)
From: News
Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2024 16:44 UTC
References: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: News@Group.Name (News)
Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due
to Apple's failed R&D efforts)
Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2024 12:44:46 -0400
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 67
Message-ID: <v8tjtu$1l9ns$1@dont-email.me>
References: <v8hnso$148k$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
<xn0op39w7pkxotf00b@reader443.eternal-september.org>
<v8j88k$2bte$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
<xn0op3bkdpn7jxs00d@reader443.eternal-september.org>
<v8jchs$27n4$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <v8jeog$mtgi$1@solani.org>
<v8okgh$6v5h$1@dont-email.me> <v8ossj$pvg0$1@solani.org>
<v8p1ng$9dec$4@dont-email.me> <v8p3sr$q2a2$1@solani.org>
<v8p43d$9dec$6@dont-email.me> <v8p53i$q2nt$1@solani.org>
<v8q8e5$qja9$1@solani.org> <v8qu5m$jbt4$1@dont-email.me>
<xn0op7n3eu2mvvt000@reader443.eternal-september.org>
<v8rfli$131u5$3@dont-email.me>
<xn0op8sw4v68s2l002@reader443.eternal-september.org>
<v8tgat$1lmol$1@dont-email.me>
<xn0op8tu4v7gvf4003@reader443.eternal-september.org>
<v8tjit$1ma9d$1@dont-email.me>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Injection-Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2024 18:44:47 +0200 (CEST)
Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="92fff328e80cabc7a100f4c481c97ee0";
logging-data="1746684"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/Yeb4fo4z0fbsVybpP4Zth"
User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
Cancel-Lock: sha1:gfurU8ZSgf23qk0ilUKKcxl4hz8=
In-Reply-To: <v8tjit$1ma9d$1@dont-email.me>
Content-Language: en-US
View all headers

On 8/6/2024 12:38 PM, Alan wrote:
> On 2024-08-06 09:16, badgolferman wrote:
>> Alan wrote:
>>
>>> On 2024-08-06 08:42, badgolferman wrote:
>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2024-08-05 14:13, badgolferman wrote:
>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2024-08-05 03:10, badgolferman wrote:
>>>>>>>> badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But your argument was that Apple wasn't doing much
>>>>>>>>>> lately.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Implying that others were.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You inferred incorrectly.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, you did.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The topic was about Apple. Other smartphone companies were
>>>>>>>> not mentioned by me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But implicit any discussion of whether someone (person or
>>>>>>> company) is doing enough of something is that it must be in
>>>>>>> relation to some standard.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can drive very fast in my Formula F Honda open wheel race
>>>>>>> car...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...but it's only very fast if I compare it against other
>>>>>>> Formula F cars at the same track.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No.  It's not anything innovative if it's not better than
>>>>>> previous versions of itself.
>>>>>
>>>>> But your argument was about the PACE of innovation.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is Apple's pace of innovation noticeably worse than any other
>>>>> smartphone manufacturer's?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No, you are the one constantly comparing to other manufacturers.
>>>> This is an Apple newsgroup and that's what I am concentrating on.
>>>
>>> Pace of anything requires a comparison; it is implicit.
>>
>>
>> I already gave you a comparison.  It's not my fault your reading
>> comprehension is suspect.
>
> No, you didn't.
>
> You specifically incorporated all other smartphone manufacturers when
> you said "the mobile phone hasn't done much lately". Not "the iPhone".

Ever the pedant... being a pedant

Subject: Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple's failed R&D efforts)
From: Alan
Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2024 19:35 UTC
References: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21
Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: nuh-uh@nope.com (Alan)
Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due
to Apple's failed R&D efforts)
Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2024 12:35:10 -0700
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 70
Message-ID: <v8tttf$1q4ii$1@dont-email.me>
References: <v8hnso$148k$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
<xn0op39w7pkxotf00b@reader443.eternal-september.org>
<v8j88k$2bte$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com>
<xn0op3bkdpn7jxs00d@reader443.eternal-september.org>
<v8jchs$27n4$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <v8jeog$mtgi$1@solani.org>
<v8okgh$6v5h$1@dont-email.me> <v8ossj$pvg0$1@solani.org>
<v8p1ng$9dec$4@dont-email.me> <v8p3sr$q2a2$1@solani.org>
<v8p43d$9dec$6@dont-email.me> <v8p53i$q2nt$1@solani.org>
<v8q8e5$qja9$1@solani.org> <v8qu5m$jbt4$1@dont-email.me>
<xn0op7n3eu2mvvt000@reader443.eternal-september.org>
<v8rfli$131u5$3@dont-email.me>
<xn0op8sw4v68s2l002@reader443.eternal-september.org>
<v8tgat$1lmol$1@dont-email.me>
<xn0op8tu4v7gvf4003@reader443.eternal-september.org>
<v8tjit$1ma9d$1@dont-email.me> <v8tjtu$1l9ns$1@dont-email.me>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Injection-Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2024 21:35:11 +0200 (CEST)
Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="610153cf504c2dbe73a75e28f055348f";
logging-data="1905234"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19ns/Mox/Ks8G0SAIgibY882YYmzqL5UmY="
User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
Cancel-Lock: sha1:9yl+bLzzmndScJlceQQ2CClItN4=
Content-Language: en-CA
In-Reply-To: <v8tjtu$1l9ns$1@dont-email.me>
View all headers

On 2024-08-06 09:44, News wrote:
> On 8/6/2024 12:38 PM, Alan wrote:
>> On 2024-08-06 09:16, badgolferman wrote:
>>> Alan wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-08-06 08:42, badgolferman wrote:
>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2024-08-05 14:13, badgolferman wrote:
>>>>>>> Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2024-08-05 03:10, badgolferman wrote:
>>>>>>>>> badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But your argument was that Apple wasn't doing much
>>>>>>>>>>> lately.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Implying that others were.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You inferred incorrectly.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, you did.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The topic was about Apple. Other smartphone companies were
>>>>>>>>> not mentioned by me.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But implicit any discussion of whether someone (person or
>>>>>>>> company) is doing enough of something is that it must be in
>>>>>>>> relation to some standard.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I can drive very fast in my Formula F Honda open wheel race
>>>>>>>> car...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ...but it's only very fast if I compare it against other
>>>>>>>> Formula F cars at the same track.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No.  It's not anything innovative if it's not better than
>>>>>>> previous versions of itself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But your argument was about the PACE of innovation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is Apple's pace of innovation noticeably worse than any other
>>>>>> smartphone manufacturer's?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No, you are the one constantly comparing to other manufacturers.
>>>>> This is an Apple newsgroup and that's what I am concentrating on.
>>>>
>>>> Pace of anything requires a comparison; it is implicit.
>>>
>>>
>>> I already gave you a comparison.  It's not my fault your reading
>>> comprehension is suspect.
>>
>> No, you didn't.
>>
>> You specifically incorporated all other smartphone manufacturers when
>> you said "the mobile phone hasn't done much lately". Not "the iPhone".
>
>
> Ever the pedant... being a pedant

You mistake accuracy for pedantry.

Subject: Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple's failed R&D efforts)
From: Your Name
Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2024 20:39 UTC
References: 1 2 3 4
Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: YourName@YourISP.com (Your Name)
Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: iPhone revenue fell for a second consecutive quarter (perhaps due to Apple's failed R&D efforts)
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2024 08:39:55 +1200
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 57
Message-ID: <v8u1mr$1r6i6$1@dont-email.me>
References: <xn0op39w7pkxotf00b@reader443.eternal-september.org> <xn0op3bkdpn7jxs00d@reader443.eternal-september.org> <xn0op7n3eu2mvvt000@reader443.eternal-september.org> <xn0op8sw4v68s2l002@reader443.eternal-september.org>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Injection-Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2024 22:39:57 +0200 (CEST)
Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a529bbe36ea84ce1023c3fd7ab5d7559";
logging-data="1940038"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/2VkTHHlps4oXLkm2iSnRewI31mZuTNcI="
User-Agent: Unison/2.2
Cancel-Lock: sha1:hQcKwlGv6bzgxar5iDSX674hXz8=
View all headers

On 2024-08-06 15:42:09 +0000, badgolferman said:
> Alan wrote:
>> On 2024-08-05 14:13, badgolferman wrote:
>>> Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2024-08-05 03:10, badgolferman wrote:
>>>>> badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But your argument was that Apple wasn't doing much lately.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Implying that others were.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You inferred incorrectly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, you did.
>>>>>
>>>>> The topic was about Apple. Other smartphone companies were not
>>>>> mentioned by me.
>>>>
>>>> But implicit any discussion of whether someone (person or
>>>> company) is doing enough of something is that it must be in
>>>> relation to some standard.
>>>>
>>>> I can drive very fast in my Formula F Honda open wheel race car...
>>>>
>>>> ...but it's only very fast if I compare it against other Formula F
>>>> cars at the same track.
>>>
>>> No. It's not anything innovative if it's not better than previous
>>> versions of itself.
>>
>> But your argument was about the PACE of innovation.
>>
>> Is Apple's pace of innovation noticeably worse than any other
>> smartphone manufacturer's?
>
> No, you are the one constantly comparing to other manufacturers. This
> is an Apple newsgroup and that's what I am concentrating on.

Most of the Android makers don't even have any innovation. They simply
lazily wait for Apple to do something and then copy it, and usually
make a mess of it in the process ... and that includes the big brands
like Samsung who recently copied Apple's Airpods and Watch, just one of
their many Apple knock-offs over the years ...

"The Galaxy Watch Ultra follows in the Apple Watch Ultra's
footsteps. It looks different with its circular display,
but nearly all of its upgrades are inspired by (or copied
directly from) Apple's flagship watch."

<https://www.yahoo.com/tech/samsungs-apple-watch-ultra-clone-095502335.html>.

Pages:12

rocksolid light 0.9.8
clearnet tor