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* Re: macOS Sonoma 14.4 Breaks iMazingdgb (David)
`* Re: macOS Sonoma 14.4 Breaks iMazingAlan
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 |`* Re: macOS Sonoma 14.4 Breaks iMazingAlan
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Subject: Re: macOS Sonoma 14.4 Breaks iMazing
From: dgb (David)
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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2024 13:49 UTC
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From: david@nomale.afraid.org (dgb (David))
Newsgroups: alt.computer.workshop,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.system,uk.comp.sys.mac
Subject: Re: macOS Sonoma 14.4 Breaks iMazing
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On 10 Mar 2024 at 19:13:01 GMT, "Tyrone" <none@none.none> wrote:

> On Mar 10, 2024 at 2:03:42 PM EDT, "dgb" <David) <david@nomale.afraid.org>
> wrote:
>
>> On 9 Mar 2024 at 17:24:19 GMT, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2024-03-08, dgb <david@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>> On 8 Mar 2024 at 19:40:26 GMT, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-03-08, dgb <david@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>> On 8 Mar 2024 at 11:27:46 GMT, "Alan B" <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2024-03-08, Chris Schram <chrispam1@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I updated to macOS Sonoma 14.4 on my M1 iMac, and iMazing.app now
>>>>>>>> hangs with the beachball of despair when I click the "Manage Apps"
>>>>>>>> button, requiring me to Force Quit the Application. This problem
>>>>>>>> exists in both iMazing 2.17.17 and Beta version 3.0.0. I have
>>>>>>>> submitted a report to iMazing Support.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Can anyone out there either validate or debunk whether iMazing
>>>>>>>> works on your Mac under the latest version of Sonoma?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The trial version downloaded from the developer's site runs OK on
>>>>>>> my M1 Mac now updated to macOS 14.4.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is the software properly signed?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://developer.apple.com/developer-id/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How do you KNOW?
>>>>>
>>>>> Your trolls are embarrassingly weak.
>>>>
>>>> Software NOT approved by Apple.
>>>
>>> No, software that simply isn't published on the App Store - big
>>> difference.
>>>
>>>> How do YOU know that it doesn't contain malware?
>>>
>>> Because I'm not a noob like you. I'm a software developer. I monitor
>>> what apps do on my computer, and through my network. iMazing isn't
>>> malware and doesn't communicate with server except for software updates
>>> - and I prevent those connections until I'm ready to update.
>>
>> I've decided to ask them myself:-
>
> Prediction: Dumbass David won't like/understand the answer he gets (assuming
> he gets an answer), so Dangerous Delusional David will have a new stalking
> target.

Here are the answers I received:-

https://i.ibb.co/FKmYZ2s/Screenshot-2024-03-12-at-13-32-06.png

HTH!

--
David

Subject: Re: macOS Sonoma 14.4 Breaks iMazing
From: Alan
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From: nuh-uh@nope.com (Alan)
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Subject: Re: macOS Sonoma 14.4 Breaks iMazing
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On 2024-03-12 06:49, dgb (David) wrote:
> On 10 Mar 2024 at 19:13:01 GMT, "Tyrone" <none@none.none> wrote:
>
>> On Mar 10, 2024 at 2:03:42 PM EDT, "dgb" <David) <david@nomale.afraid.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 9 Mar 2024 at 17:24:19 GMT, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-03-08, dgb <david@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>> On 8 Mar 2024 at 19:40:26 GMT, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 2024-03-08, dgb <david@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 8 Mar 2024 at 11:27:46 GMT, "Alan B" <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2024-03-08, Chris Schram <chrispam1@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I updated to macOS Sonoma 14.4 on my M1 iMac, and iMazing.app now
>>>>>>>>> hangs with the beachball of despair when I click the "Manage Apps"
>>>>>>>>> button, requiring me to Force Quit the Application. This problem
>>>>>>>>> exists in both iMazing 2.17.17 and Beta version 3.0.0. I have
>>>>>>>>> submitted a report to iMazing Support.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can anyone out there either validate or debunk whether iMazing
>>>>>>>>> works on your Mac under the latest version of Sonoma?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The trial version downloaded from the developer's site runs OK on
>>>>>>>> my M1 Mac now updated to macOS 14.4.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is the software properly signed?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://developer.apple.com/developer-id/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How do you KNOW?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your trolls are embarrassingly weak.
>>>>>
>>>>> Software NOT approved by Apple.
>>>>
>>>> No, software that simply isn't published on the App Store - big
>>>> difference.
>>>>
>>>>> How do YOU know that it doesn't contain malware?
>>>>
>>>> Because I'm not a noob like you. I'm a software developer. I monitor
>>>> what apps do on my computer, and through my network. iMazing isn't
>>>> malware and doesn't communicate with server except for software updates
>>>> - and I prevent those connections until I'm ready to update.
>>>
>>> I've decided to ask them myself:-
>>
>> Prediction: Dumbass David won't like/understand the answer he gets (assuming
>> he gets an answer), so Dangerous Delusional David will have a new stalking
>> target.
>
> Here are the answers I received:-
>
> https://i.ibb.co/FKmYZ2s/Screenshot-2024-03-12-at-13-32-06.png
>
> HTH!

So they know you're an asshole now, too!

Subject: Re: macOS Sonoma 14.4 Breaks iMazing
From: dgb (David)
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From: david@nomale.afraid.org (dgb (David))
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Subject: Re: macOS Sonoma 14.4 Breaks iMazing
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On 12 Mar 2024 at 16:04:58 GMT, "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

> On 2024-03-12 06:49, dgb (David) wrote:
>> On 10 Mar 2024 at 19:13:01 GMT, "Tyrone" <none@none.none> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mar 10, 2024 at 2:03:42 PM EDT, "dgb" <David) <david@nomale.afraid.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9 Mar 2024 at 17:24:19 GMT, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2024-03-08, dgb <david@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>> On 8 Mar 2024 at 19:40:26 GMT, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2024-03-08, dgb <david@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 8 Mar 2024 at 11:27:46 GMT, "Alan B" <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2024-03-08, Chris Schram <chrispam1@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I updated to macOS Sonoma 14.4 on my M1 iMac, and iMazing.app now
>>>>>>>>>> hangs with the beachball of despair when I click the "Manage Apps"
>>>>>>>>>> button, requiring me to Force Quit the Application. This problem
>>>>>>>>>> exists in both iMazing 2.17.17 and Beta version 3.0.0. I have
>>>>>>>>>> submitted a report to iMazing Support.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Can anyone out there either validate or debunk whether iMazing
>>>>>>>>>> works on your Mac under the latest version of Sonoma?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The trial version downloaded from the developer's site runs OK on
>>>>>>>>> my M1 Mac now updated to macOS 14.4.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is the software properly signed?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://developer.apple.com/developer-id/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How do you KNOW?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your trolls are embarrassingly weak.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Software NOT approved by Apple.
>>>>>
>>>>> No, software that simply isn't published on the App Store - big
>>>>> difference.
>>>>>
>>>>>> How do YOU know that it doesn't contain malware?
>>>>>
>>>>> Because I'm not a noob like you. I'm a software developer. I monitor
>>>>> what apps do on my computer, and through my network. iMazing isn't
>>>>> malware and doesn't communicate with server except for software updates
>>>>> - and I prevent those connections until I'm ready to update.
>>>>
>>>> I've decided to ask them myself:-
>>>
>>> Prediction: Dumbass David won't like/understand the answer he gets (assuming
>>> he gets an answer), so Dangerous Delusional David will have a new stalking
>>> target.
>>
>> Here are the answers I received:-
>>
>> https://i.ibb.co/FKmYZ2s/Screenshot-2024-03-12-at-13-32-06.png
>>
>> HTH!
>
> So they know you're an asshole now, too!

If they can't run a Facebook page properly, they'll have no place on MY
computer!

Did YOU get a warning from Apple when you downloaded it?
No? Then maybe it IS carrying some malicious code!

Subject: Re: macOS Sonoma 14.4 Breaks iMazing
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On 2024-03-12 09:43, dgb (David) wrote:
> On 12 Mar 2024 at 16:04:58 GMT, "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2024-03-12 06:49, dgb (David) wrote:
>>> On 10 Mar 2024 at 19:13:01 GMT, "Tyrone" <none@none.none> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mar 10, 2024 at 2:03:42 PM EDT, "dgb" <David) <david@nomale.afraid.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 9 Mar 2024 at 17:24:19 GMT, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2024-03-08, dgb <david@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 8 Mar 2024 at 19:40:26 GMT, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2024-03-08, dgb <david@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 8 Mar 2024 at 11:27:46 GMT, "Alan B" <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-03-08, Chris Schram <chrispam1@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I updated to macOS Sonoma 14.4 on my M1 iMac, and iMazing.app now
>>>>>>>>>>> hangs with the beachball of despair when I click the "Manage Apps"
>>>>>>>>>>> button, requiring me to Force Quit the Application. This problem
>>>>>>>>>>> exists in both iMazing 2.17.17 and Beta version 3.0.0. I have
>>>>>>>>>>> submitted a report to iMazing Support.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Can anyone out there either validate or debunk whether iMazing
>>>>>>>>>>> works on your Mac under the latest version of Sonoma?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The trial version downloaded from the developer's site runs OK on
>>>>>>>>>> my M1 Mac now updated to macOS 14.4.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is the software properly signed?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://developer.apple.com/developer-id/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How do you KNOW?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Your trolls are embarrassingly weak.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Software NOT approved by Apple.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, software that simply isn't published on the App Store - big
>>>>>> difference.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How do YOU know that it doesn't contain malware?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because I'm not a noob like you. I'm a software developer. I monitor
>>>>>> what apps do on my computer, and through my network. iMazing isn't
>>>>>> malware and doesn't communicate with server except for software updates
>>>>>> - and I prevent those connections until I'm ready to update.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've decided to ask them myself:-
>>>>
>>>> Prediction: Dumbass David won't like/understand the answer he gets (assuming
>>>> he gets an answer), so Dangerous Delusional David will have a new stalking
>>>> target.
>>>
>>> Here are the answers I received:-
>>>
>>> https://i.ibb.co/FKmYZ2s/Screenshot-2024-03-12-at-13-32-06.png
>>>
>>> HTH!
>>
>> So they know you're an asshole now, too!
>
> If they can't run a Facebook page properly, they'll have no place on MY
> computer!

There is nothing in that that so much as suggests that they can't do so,
asshole.

Not catering to your whims doesn't equal "can't".

Subject: Re: macOS Sonoma 14.4 Breaks iMazing
From: dgb (David)
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On 12 Mar 2024 at 19:37:41 GMT, "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

> On 2024-03-12 09:43, dgb (David) wrote:
>> On 12 Mar 2024 at 16:04:58 GMT, "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2024-03-12 06:49, dgb (David) wrote:
>>>> On 10 Mar 2024 at 19:13:01 GMT, "Tyrone" <none@none.none> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 10, 2024 at 2:03:42 PM EDT, "dgb" <David) <david@nomale.afraid.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9 Mar 2024 at 17:24:19 GMT, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2024-03-08, dgb <david@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 8 Mar 2024 at 19:40:26 GMT, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2024-03-08, dgb <david@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 8 Mar 2024 at 11:27:46 GMT, "Alan B" <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-03-08, Chris Schram <chrispam1@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I updated to macOS Sonoma 14.4 on my M1 iMac, and iMazing.app now
>>>>>>>>>>>> hangs with the beachball of despair when I click the "Manage Apps"
>>>>>>>>>>>> button, requiring me to Force Quit the Application. This problem
>>>>>>>>>>>> exists in both iMazing 2.17.17 and Beta version 3.0.0. I have
>>>>>>>>>>>> submitted a report to iMazing Support.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Can anyone out there either validate or debunk whether iMazing
>>>>>>>>>>>> works on your Mac under the latest version of Sonoma?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The trial version downloaded from the developer's site runs OK on
>>>>>>>>>>> my M1 Mac now updated to macOS 14.4.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Is the software properly signed?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://developer.apple.com/developer-id/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How do you KNOW?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Your trolls are embarrassingly weak.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Software NOT approved by Apple.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, software that simply isn't published on the App Store - big
>>>>>>> difference.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How do YOU know that it doesn't contain malware?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Because I'm not a noob like you. I'm a software developer. I monitor
>>>>>>> what apps do on my computer, and through my network. iMazing isn't
>>>>>>> malware and doesn't communicate with server except for software updates
>>>>>>> - and I prevent those connections until I'm ready to update.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've decided to ask them myself:-
>>>>>
>>>>> Prediction: Dumbass David won't like/understand the answer he gets (assuming
>>>>> he gets an answer), so Dangerous Delusional David will have a new stalking
>>>>> target.
>>>>
>>>> Here are the answers I received:-
>>>>
>>>> https://i.ibb.co/FKmYZ2s/Screenshot-2024-03-12-at-13-32-06.png
>>>>
>>>> HTH!
>>>
>>> So they know you're an asshole now, too!
>>
>> If they can't run a Facebook page properly, they'll have no place on MY
>> computer!
>
> There is nothing in that that so much as suggests that they can't do so,
> asshole.
>
> Not catering to your whims doesn't equal "can't".

They've lost a customer though - and other folk who I might tell.

How do they benefit from that?

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On 12 Mar 2024 20:43:02 GMT, dgb (David) <david@nomale.afraid.org> wrote:

>On 12 Mar 2024 at 19:37:41 GMT, "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2024-03-12 09:43, dgb (David) wrote:
>>> On 12 Mar 2024 at 16:04:58 GMT, "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-03-12 06:49, dgb (David) wrote:
>>>>> On 10 Mar 2024 at 19:13:01 GMT, "Tyrone" <none@none.none> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 10, 2024 at 2:03:42?PM EDT, "dgb" <David) <david@nomale.afraid.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9 Mar 2024 at 17:24:19 GMT, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2024-03-08, dgb <david@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 8 Mar 2024 at 19:40:26 GMT, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-03-08, dgb <david@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 8 Mar 2024 at 11:27:46 GMT, "Alan B" <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-03-08, Chris Schram <chrispam1@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I updated to macOS Sonoma 14.4 on my M1 iMac, and iMazing.app now
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hangs with the beachball of despair when I click the "Manage Apps"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> button, requiring me to Force Quit the Application. This problem
>>>>>>>>>>>>> exists in both iMazing 2.17.17 and Beta version 3.0.0. I have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> submitted a report to iMazing Support.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can anyone out there either validate or debunk whether iMazing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> works on your Mac under the latest version of Sonoma?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The trial version downloaded from the developer's site runs OK on
>>>>>>>>>>>> my M1 Mac now updated to macOS 14.4.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Is the software properly signed?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://developer.apple.com/developer-id/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> How do you KNOW?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Your trolls are embarrassingly weak.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Software NOT approved by Apple.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No, software that simply isn't published on the App Store - big
>>>>>>>> difference.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How do YOU know that it doesn't contain malware?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Because I'm not a noob like you. I'm a software developer. I monitor
>>>>>>>> what apps do on my computer, and through my network. iMazing isn't
>>>>>>>> malware and doesn't communicate with server except for software updates
>>>>>>>> - and I prevent those connections until I'm ready to update.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've decided to ask them myself:-
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Prediction: Dumbass David won't like/understand the answer he gets (assuming
>>>>>> he gets an answer), so Dangerous Delusional David will have a new stalking
>>>>>> target.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here are the answers I received:-
>>>>>
>>>>> https://i.ibb.co/FKmYZ2s/Screenshot-2024-03-12-at-13-32-06.png
>>>>>
>>>>> HTH!
>>>>
>>>> So they know you're an asshole now, too!
>>>
>>> If they can't run a Facebook page properly, they'll have no place on MY
>>> computer!
>>
>> There is nothing in that that so much as suggests that they can't do so,
>> asshole.
>>
>> Not catering to your whims doesn't equal "can't".
>
>They've lost a customer though - and other folk who I might tell.
>
>How do they benefit from that?

It's hard to imagine a better product endorsement than seeing you bash and
slime, as you do. Any dev who recognizes you for the kook that you are gets my
vote.

Subject: Re: macOS Sonoma 14.4 Breaks iMazing
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On Mar 12, 2024 at 12:04:58 PM EDT, "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

> On 2024-03-12 06:49, dgb (David) wrote:
>> On 10 Mar 2024 at 19:13:01 GMT, "Tyrone" <none@none.none> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mar 10, 2024 at 2:03:42 PM EDT, "dgb" <David) <david@nomale.afraid.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 9 Mar 2024 at 17:24:19 GMT, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2024-03-08, dgb <david@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>> On 8 Mar 2024 at 19:40:26 GMT, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2024-03-08, dgb <david@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 8 Mar 2024 at 11:27:46 GMT, "Alan B" <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2024-03-08, Chris Schram <chrispam1@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I updated to macOS Sonoma 14.4 on my M1 iMac, and iMazing.app now
>>>>>>>>>> hangs with the beachball of despair when I click the "Manage Apps"
>>>>>>>>>> button, requiring me to Force Quit the Application. This problem
>>>>>>>>>> exists in both iMazing 2.17.17 and Beta version 3.0.0. I have
>>>>>>>>>> submitted a report to iMazing Support.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Can anyone out there either validate or debunk whether iMazing
>>>>>>>>>> works on your Mac under the latest version of Sonoma?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The trial version downloaded from the developer's site runs OK on
>>>>>>>>> my M1 Mac now updated to macOS 14.4.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is the software properly signed?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://developer.apple.com/developer-id/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How do you KNOW?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your trolls are embarrassingly weak.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Software NOT approved by Apple.
>>>>>
>>>>> No, software that simply isn't published on the App Store - big
>>>>> difference.
>>>>>
>>>>>> How do YOU know that it doesn't contain malware?
>>>>>
>>>>> Because I'm not a noob like you. I'm a software developer. I monitor
>>>>> what apps do on my computer, and through my network. iMazing isn't
>>>>> malware and doesn't communicate with server except for software updates
>>>>> - and I prevent those connections until I'm ready to update.
>>>>
>>>> I've decided to ask them myself:-
>>>
>>> Prediction: Dumbass David won't like/understand the answer he gets (assuming
>>> he gets an answer), so Dangerous Delusional David will have a new stalking
>>> target.
>>
>> Here are the answers I received:-
>>
>> https://i.ibb.co/FKmYZ2s/Screenshot-2024-03-12-at-13-32-06.png
>>
>> HTH!
>
> So they know you're an asshole now, too!

Oh look. My prediction above came true. "Prediction: Dumbass David won't
like/understand the answer he gets (assuming he gets an answer), so Dangerous
Delusional David will have a new stalking target.

Subject: Re: macOS Sonoma 14.4 Breaks iMazing
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On Mar 12, 2024 at 4:43:02 PM EDT, "dgb" <David) <david@nomale.afraid.org>
wrote:

> They've lost a customer though - and other folk who I might tell.
>
> How do they benefit from that?

Because they now know better than to deal with you. And anyone else who is
stupid enough to believe you.

THAT is a HUGE benefit.

Subject: Re: macOS Sonoma 14.4 Breaks iMazing
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On 2024-03-12 13:43, dgb (David) wrote:
> On 12 Mar 2024 at 19:37:41 GMT, "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2024-03-12 09:43, dgb (David) wrote:
>>> On 12 Mar 2024 at 16:04:58 GMT, "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-03-12 06:49, dgb (David) wrote:
>>>>> On 10 Mar 2024 at 19:13:01 GMT, "Tyrone" <none@none.none> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 10, 2024 at 2:03:42 PM EDT, "dgb" <David) <david@nomale.afraid.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9 Mar 2024 at 17:24:19 GMT, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2024-03-08, dgb <david@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 8 Mar 2024 at 19:40:26 GMT, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-03-08, dgb <david@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 8 Mar 2024 at 11:27:46 GMT, "Alan B" <alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2024-03-08, Chris Schram <chrispam1@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I updated to macOS Sonoma 14.4 on my M1 iMac, and iMazing.app now
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hangs with the beachball of despair when I click the "Manage Apps"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> button, requiring me to Force Quit the Application. This problem
>>>>>>>>>>>>> exists in both iMazing 2.17.17 and Beta version 3.0.0. I have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> submitted a report to iMazing Support.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can anyone out there either validate or debunk whether iMazing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> works on your Mac under the latest version of Sonoma?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The trial version downloaded from the developer's site runs OK on
>>>>>>>>>>>> my M1 Mac now updated to macOS 14.4.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Is the software properly signed?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://developer.apple.com/developer-id/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> How do you KNOW?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Your trolls are embarrassingly weak.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Software NOT approved by Apple.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No, software that simply isn't published on the App Store - big
>>>>>>>> difference.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How do YOU know that it doesn't contain malware?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Because I'm not a noob like you. I'm a software developer. I monitor
>>>>>>>> what apps do on my computer, and through my network. iMazing isn't
>>>>>>>> malware and doesn't communicate with server except for software updates
>>>>>>>> - and I prevent those connections until I'm ready to update.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've decided to ask them myself:-
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Prediction: Dumbass David won't like/understand the answer he gets (assuming
>>>>>> he gets an answer), so Dangerous Delusional David will have a new stalking
>>>>>> target.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here are the answers I received:-
>>>>>
>>>>> https://i.ibb.co/FKmYZ2s/Screenshot-2024-03-12-at-13-32-06.png
>>>>>
>>>>> HTH!
>>>>
>>>> So they know you're an asshole now, too!
>>>
>>> If they can't run a Facebook page properly, they'll have no place on MY
>>> computer!
>>
>> There is nothing in that that so much as suggests that they can't do so,
>> asshole.
>>
>> Not catering to your whims doesn't equal "can't".
>
> They've lost a customer though - and other folk who I might tell.

I suspect they'd be glad if they knew.

>
> How do they benefit from that?

Subject: Re: macOS Sonoma 14.4 Breaks iMazing
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On Mar 12, 2024, Tyrone wrote
(in article<wemdnR5di6Dfimz4nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@supernews.com>):

> On Mar 12, 2024 at 12:04:58 PM EDT, "Alan"<nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
> > On 2024-03-12 06:49, dgb (David) wrote:
> > > On 10 Mar 2024 at 19:13:01 GMT, "Tyrone"<none@none.none> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Mar 10, 2024 at 2:03:42 PM EDT, "dgb"<David)
> > > > <david@nomale.afraid.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On 9 Mar 2024 at 17:24:19 GMT, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On 2024-03-08, dgb<david@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > On 8 Mar 2024 at 19:40:26 GMT, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > On 2024-03-08, dgb<david@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On 8 Mar 2024 at 11:27:46 GMT, "Alan
> > > > > > > > > B"<alanrichardbarker@gmail.com.invalid>
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On 2024-03-08, Chris Schram<chrispam1@me.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > I updated to macOS Sonoma 14.4 on my M1 iMac, and iMazing.app now
> > > > > > > > > > > hangs with the beachball of despair when I click the "Manage Apps"
> > > > > > > > > > > button, requiring me to Force Quit the Application. This problem
> > > > > > > > > > > exists in both iMazing 2.17.17 and Beta version 3.0.0. I have
> > > > > > > > > > > submitted a report to iMazing Support.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Can anyone out there either validate or debunk whether iMazing
> > > > > > > > > > > works on your Mac under the latest version of Sonoma?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The trial version downloaded from the developer's site runs OK on
> > > > > > > > > > my M1 Mac now updated to macOS 14.4.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Is the software properly signed?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > https://developer.apple.com/developer-id/
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > How do you KNOW?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Your trolls are embarrassingly weak.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Software NOT approved by Apple.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No, software that simply isn't published on the App Store - big
> > > > > > difference.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > How do YOU know that it doesn't contain malware?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Because I'm not a noob like you. I'm a software developer. I monitor
> > > > > > what apps do on my computer, and through my network. iMazing isn't
> > > > > > malware and doesn't communicate with server except for software updates
> > > > > > - and I prevent those connections until I'm ready to update.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've decided to ask them myself:-
> > > >
> > > > Prediction: Dumbass David won't like/understand the answer he gets
> > > > (assuming
> > > > he gets an answer), so Dangerous Delusional David will have a new stalking
> > > > target.
> > >
> > > Here are the answers I received:-
> > >
> > > https://i.ibb.co/FKmYZ2s/Screenshot-2024-03-12-at-13-32-06.png
> > >
> > > HTH!
> >
> > So they know you're an asshole now, too!
>
> Oh look. My prediction above came true. "Prediction: Dumbass David won't
> like/understand the answer he gets (assuming he gets an answer), so Dangerous
> Delusional David will have a new stalking target.

Our David’s reputation precedes him. One of his problems is that _lots_ of
devs have presences in places like the various Apple fora and certain of the
non-Apple Mac or iDevice fora. They will have seen Our David in action. They
will know other devs and will get warnings from them about Our David’s
drunken, brain-damaged, obnoxious, methods. And they will react accordingly.

As yea sow, so shall yea reap, David, m’lad.

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