Hello.

How do I tell mac OS Big Sur v11.6.4 to never sleep when using in a 2020
Intel MBP? I only want to set this as a test since I'm trying to figure
out why this MBP crashes when waking up after sleeping once in a while.
So far on power AC connection, it never crashes with sleep disabled.
macOS Big Sur v11.6.(3&4) doesn't have an option to do that. I only can
disable its power nap and display sleep.
Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)
--
Too much sleep, sickness, poops, pees, pains, spams, issues, videos, etc. :(
Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly.
/\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.home.dhs.org.
/ /\ /\ \ Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail.
| |o o| |
\ _ /
( )

On 18/02/2022 20:06, Ant wrote:
> Hello.
>
> How do I tell mac OS Big Sur v11.6.4 to never sleep when using in a 2020
> Intel MBP? I only want to set this as a test since I'm trying to figure
> out why this MBP crashes when waking up after sleeping once in a while.
> So far on power AC connection, it never crashes with sleep disabled.
> macOS Big Sur v11.6.(3&4) doesn't have an option to do that. I only can
> disable its power nap and display sleep.
>
> Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)

My best advice is that you simply update to Monterey 12.2.1

Works like a dream!

It's a BIG change. Set it in motion just before you go to bed and it
will be up and running once you awake!

Good luck! 🙂

On 2022-02-18, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> Hello.
>
> How do I tell mac OS Big Sur v11.6.4 to never sleep when using in a 2020
> Intel MBP? I only want to set this as a test since I'm trying to figure
> out why this MBP crashes when waking up after sleeping once in a while.
> So far on power AC connection, it never crashes with sleep disabled.
> macOS Big Sur v11.6.(3&4) doesn't have an option to do that. I only can
> disable its power nap and display sleep.
>
> Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)

There should be an option in System Preferences > Energy Saver called
"Prevent your Mac from automatically sleeping when the display is off".
Enabling that option will cause the computer to stay awake even when the
display sleeps.

If you want the display to never sleep, set the "Turn display off after"
setting to "Never". If you do that, it's probably best to make sure you
have a screen saver enabled too.

Otherwise, as the saying goes, "There's an app for that". I've used
Amphetamine for years to prevent sleep when certain apps or processes
are running, and it's a nice tool to have handy for such a thing:

<https://apps.apple.com/us/app/amphetamine/id937984704?mt=12>

--
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

On 18/02/2022 21:50, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2022-02-18, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
>> Hello.
>>
>> How do I tell mac OS Big Sur v11.6.4 to never sleep when using in a 2020
>> Intel MBP? I only want to set this as a test since I'm trying to figure
>> out why this MBP crashes when waking up after sleeping once in a while.
>> So far on power AC connection, it never crashes with sleep disabled.
>> macOS Big Sur v11.6.(3&4) doesn't have an option to do that. I only can
>> disable its power nap and display sleep.
>>
>> Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)
>
> There should be an option in System Preferences > Energy Saver called
> "Prevent your Mac from automatically sleeping when the display is off".
> Enabling that option will cause the computer to stay awake even when the
> display sleeps.
>
> If you want the display to never sleep, set the "Turn display off after"
> setting to "Never". If you do that, it's probably best to make sure you
> have a screen saver enabled too.
>
> Otherwise, as the saying goes, "There's an app for that". I've used
> Amphetamine for years to prevent sleep when certain apps or processes
> are running, and it's a nice tool to have handy for such a thing:
>
> <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/amphetamine/id937984704?mt=12>

Interesting. I'd not happened across this before.

Do you also recommend THIS facility?

https://github.com/x74353/Amphetamine-Enhancer

Thanks.

In comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 18/02/2022 20:06, Ant wrote:
> > Hello.
> >
> > How do I tell mac OS Big Sur v11.6.4 to never sleep when using in a 2020
> > Intel MBP? I only want to set this as a test since I'm trying to figure
> > out why this MBP crashes when waking up after sleeping once in a while.
> > So far on power AC connection, it never crashes with sleep disabled.
> > macOS Big Sur v11.6.(3&4) doesn't have an option to do that. I only can
> > disable its power nap and display sleep.
> >
> > Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)

> My best advice is that you simply update to Monterey 12.2.1

> Works like a dream!

> It's a BIG change. Set it in motion just before you go to bed and it
> will be up and running once you awake!

Is it still buggy?
--
Too much sleep, sickness, poops, pees, pains, spams, issues, videos, etc. :(
Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly.
/\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.home.dhs.org.
/ /\ /\ \ Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail.
| |o o| |
\ _ /
( )

In comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 18/02/2022 21:50, Jolly Roger wrote:
> > On 2022-02-18, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> >> Hello.
> >>
> >> How do I tell mac OS Big Sur v11.6.4 to never sleep when using in a 2020
> >> Intel MBP? I only want to set this as a test since I'm trying to figure
> >> out why this MBP crashes when waking up after sleeping once in a while.
> >> So far on power AC connection, it never crashes with sleep disabled.
> >> macOS Big Sur v11.6.(3&4) doesn't have an option to do that. I only can
> >> disable its power nap and display sleep.
> >>
> >> Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)
> >
> > There should be an option in System Preferences > Energy Saver called
> > "Prevent your Mac from automatically sleeping when the display is off".
> > Enabling that option will cause the computer to stay awake even when the
> > display sleeps.
> >
> > If you want the display to never sleep, set the "Turn display off after"
> > setting to "Never". If you do that, it's probably best to make sure you
> > have a screen saver enabled too.
> >
> > Otherwise, as the saying goes, "There's an app for that". I've used
> > Amphetamine for years to prevent sleep when certain apps or processes
> > are running, and it's a nice tool to have handy for such a thing:
> >
> > <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/amphetamine/id937984704?mt=12>

> Interesting. I'd not happened across this before.

> Do you also recommend THIS facility?

> https://github.com/x74353/Amphetamine-Enhancer

> Thanks.

Ooh. Interesting that Enhancer is from GitHub (not Apple's app store),
but it requires the original Amphetamine from Apple's App Store. I
wonder why not offer from Github too?

Also, Redditors told me about caffeinate command in Terminal which works
too and already included in macOS!
--
Too much sleep, sickness, poops, pees, pains, spams, issues, videos, etc. :(
Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly.
/\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.home.dhs.org.
/ /\ /\ \ Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail.
| |o o| |
\ _ /
( )

In comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2022-02-18, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> > Hello.
> >
> > How do I tell mac OS Big Sur v11.6.4 to never sleep when using in a 2020
> > Intel MBP? I only want to set this as a test since I'm trying to figure
> > out why this MBP crashes when waking up after sleeping once in a while.
> > So far on power AC connection, it never crashes with sleep disabled.
> > macOS Big Sur v11.6.(3&4) doesn't have an option to do that. I only can
> > disable its power nap and display sleep.
> >
> > Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)

> There should be an option in System Preferences > Energy Saver called
> "Prevent your Mac from automatically sleeping when the display is off".
> Enabling that option will cause the computer to stay awake even when the
> display sleeps.

Display sleep is OK, but I was talking about system's sleep. This one I
don't want to sleep at all.
--
Too much sleep, sickness, poops, pees, pains, spams, issues, videos, etc. :(
Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly.
/\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.home.dhs.org.
/ /\ /\ \ Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail.
| |o o| |
\ _ /
( )

On 19/02/2022 02:31, Ant wrote:
> In comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On 18/02/2022 20:06, Ant wrote:
>>> Hello.
>>>
>>> How do I tell mac OS Big Sur v11.6.4 to never sleep when using in a 2020
>>> Intel MBP? I only want to set this as a test since I'm trying to figure
>>> out why this MBP crashes when waking up after sleeping once in a while.
>>> So far on power AC connection, it never crashes with sleep disabled.
>>> macOS Big Sur v11.6.(3&4) doesn't have an option to do that. I only can
>>> disable its power nap and display sleep.
>>>
>>> Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)
>
>> My best advice is that you simply update to Monterey 12.2.1
>
>> Works like a dream!
>
>> It's a BIG change. Set it in motion just before you go to bed and it
>> will be up and running once you awake!
>
> Is it still buggy?

Probably ..... but it's working just fine for me.

I do think it best to use the most up-to-date offerings from the
manufacturer.
They know, better than any other 'expert', how to 'fix' a Mac.

On 2022-02-18, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 18/02/2022 21:50, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2022-02-18, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
>>> Hello.
>>>
>>> How do I tell mac OS Big Sur v11.6.4 to never sleep when using in a 2020
>>> Intel MBP? I only want to set this as a test since I'm trying to figure
>>> out why this MBP crashes when waking up after sleeping once in a while.
>>> So far on power AC connection, it never crashes with sleep disabled.
>>> macOS Big Sur v11.6.(3&4) doesn't have an option to do that. I only can
>>> disable its power nap and display sleep.
>>>
>>> Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)
>>
>> There should be an option in System Preferences > Energy Saver called
>> "Prevent your Mac from automatically sleeping when the display is off".
>> Enabling that option will cause the computer to stay awake even when the
>> display sleeps.
>>
>> If you want the display to never sleep, set the "Turn display off after"
>> setting to "Never". If you do that, it's probably best to make sure you
>> have a screen saver enabled too.
>>
>> Otherwise, as the saying goes, "There's an app for that". I've used
>> Amphetamine for years to prevent sleep when certain apps or processes
>> are running, and it's a nice tool to have handy for such a thing:
>>
>> <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/amphetamine/id937984704?mt=12>
>
> Interesting. I'd not happened across this before.
>
> Do you also recommend THIS facility?
>
> https://github.com/x74353/Amphetamine-Enhancer

Yes, but that's only needed if you need to create triggers for processes
that don't appear in the non-enhanced version.

--
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

On 2022-02-19, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> In comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On 18/02/2022 21:50, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> > On 2022-02-18, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
>> >> Hello.
>> >>
>> >> How do I tell mac OS Big Sur v11.6.4 to never sleep when using in a 2020
>> >> Intel MBP? I only want to set this as a test since I'm trying to figure
>> >> out why this MBP crashes when waking up after sleeping once in a while.
>> >> So far on power AC connection, it never crashes with sleep disabled.
>> >> macOS Big Sur v11.6.(3&4) doesn't have an option to do that. I only can
>> >> disable its power nap and display sleep.
>> >>
>> >> Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)
>> >
>> > There should be an option in System Preferences > Energy Saver called
>> > "Prevent your Mac from automatically sleeping when the display is off".
>> > Enabling that option will cause the computer to stay awake even when the
>> > display sleeps.
>> >
>> > If you want the display to never sleep, set the "Turn display off after"
>> > setting to "Never". If you do that, it's probably best to make sure you
>> > have a screen saver enabled too.
>> >
>> > Otherwise, as the saying goes, "There's an app for that". I've used
>> > Amphetamine for years to prevent sleep when certain apps or processes
>> > are running, and it's a nice tool to have handy for such a thing:
>> >
>> > <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/amphetamine/id937984704?mt=12>
>
>> Interesting. I'd not happened across this before.
>
>> Do you also recommend THIS facility?
>
>> https://github.com/x74353/Amphetamine-Enhancer
>
>> Thanks.
>
> Ooh. Interesting that Enhancer is from GitHub (not Apple's app store),
> but it requires the original Amphetamine from Apple's App Store. I
> wonder why not offer from Github too?

That's explained on the same page under the "Why is a Separate App
Needed?" heading... Try reading it. ; )

> Also, Redditors told me about caffeinate command in Terminal which works
> too and already included in macOS!

Unfortunately, caffeinate doesn't work anymore with modern versions of
macOS.

--
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

On 2022-02-19, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> In comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> On 2022-02-18, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
>> > Hello.
>> >
>> > How do I tell mac OS Big Sur v11.6.4 to never sleep when using in a 2020
>> > Intel MBP? I only want to set this as a test since I'm trying to figure
>> > out why this MBP crashes when waking up after sleeping once in a while.
>> > So far on power AC connection, it never crashes with sleep disabled.
>> > macOS Big Sur v11.6.(3&4) doesn't have an option to do that. I only can
>> > disable its power nap and display sleep.
>> >
>> > Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)
>
>> There should be an option in System Preferences > Energy Saver called
>> "Prevent your Mac from automatically sleeping when the display is off".
>> Enabling that option will cause the computer to stay awake even when the
>> display sleeps.
>
> Display sleep is OK, but I was talking about system's sleep. This one I
> don't want to sleep at all.

Then you should be good to go.

--
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

In message <kNydnY3ZTOWsYZL_nZ2dnUU7-N_NnZ2d@earthlink.com> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> Hello.

> How do I tell mac OS Big Sur v11.6.4 to never sleep when using in a 2020
> Intel MBP?

Keep it plugged in.

> I only want to set this as a test since I'm trying to figure
> out why this MBP crashes when waking up after sleeping once in a while.
> So far on power AC connection, it never crashes with sleep disabled.
> macOS Big Sur v11.6.(3&4) doesn't have an option to do that. I only can
> disable its power nap and display sleep.

I am not sure what that means as it seems self-contradictory, but if the
machine is on battery it WILL sleep, period. The only way to prevent it
from sleeping on battery is to keep using it until its battery drains.

"Keep using it" can be running an application that prevents sleep.
there are many ways to do so, even some apps that only prevent sleep,
but doing something like playing a video will prevent sleep.

--
'Tell me, Sir Samuel, do you know the phrase "Quis custodiet ipsos
custodes?"? (...) It means "Who guards the guards themselves?"
(...) Who watches the Watch?' --Feet of Clay

On 2022-02-19, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> In comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On 18/02/2022 20:06, Ant wrote:
>> > Hello.
>> >
>> > How do I tell mac OS Big Sur v11.6.4 to never sleep when using in a 2020
>> > Intel MBP? I only want to set this as a test since I'm trying to figure
>> > out why this MBP crashes when waking up after sleeping once in a while.
>> > So far on power AC connection, it never crashes with sleep disabled.
>> > macOS Big Sur v11.6.(3&4) doesn't have an option to do that. I only can
>> > disable its power nap and display sleep.
>> >
>> > Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)
>
>> My best advice is that you simply update to Monterey 12.2.1
>
>> Works like a dream!
>
>> It's a BIG change. Set it in motion just before you go to bed and it
>> will be up and running once you awake!
>
> Is it still buggy?

It never *was* buggy for most people - you just fell for the hype. What
supposed bugs do you claim I have experienced running it since release?
Hint: none.

All software has bugs. Just because some blogger reports some people
experience an issue doesn't mean that you or most others will too.

--
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

In message <PfidnZ0mEvP1y43_nZ2dnUU7-KednZ2d@earthlink.com> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> In comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On 18/02/2022 20:06, Ant wrote:
>> > Hello.
>> >
>> > How do I tell mac OS Big Sur v11.6.4 to never sleep when using in a 2020
>> > Intel MBP? I only want to set this as a test since I'm trying to figure
>> > out why this MBP crashes when waking up after sleeping once in a while.
>> > So far on power AC connection, it never crashes with sleep disabled.
>> > macOS Big Sur v11.6.(3&4) doesn't have an option to do that. I only can
>> > disable its power nap and display sleep.
>> >
>> > Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)

>> My best advice is that you simply update to Monterey 12.2.1

>> Works like a dream!

>> It's a BIG change. Set it in motion just before you go to bed and it
>> will be up and running once you awake!

> Is it still buggy?

When was it "buggy"? During the beta, sure. Otherwise? No, it's been
rock solid for tens of millions if not hundreds or millions of users.

I'm currently on 12.3 beta, and it is also rock solid.

Is it perfect? Of course not, nothing is. Does it crash, corrupt data,
brick computers, or fail to work? No, it does not do any of these
things.

Maybe you should stop listening to idiot trolls?

--
"Are you pondering what I'm pondering?"
"I think... so, Brain... *gag...but I didn't know Annette used peanut
butter in that way."

On 19/02/2022 13:05, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2022-02-18, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On 18/02/2022 21:50, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>> On 2022-02-18, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
>>>> Hello.
>>>>
>>>> How do I tell mac OS Big Sur v11.6.4 to never sleep when using in a 2020
>>>> Intel MBP? I only want to set this as a test since I'm trying to figure
>>>> out why this MBP crashes when waking up after sleeping once in a while.
>>>> So far on power AC connection, it never crashes with sleep disabled.
>>>> macOS Big Sur v11.6.(3&4) doesn't have an option to do that. I only can
>>>> disable its power nap and display sleep.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)
>>>
>>> There should be an option in System Preferences > Energy Saver called
>>> "Prevent your Mac from automatically sleeping when the display is off".
>>> Enabling that option will cause the computer to stay awake even when the
>>> display sleeps.
>>>
>>> If you want the display to never sleep, set the "Turn display off after"
>>> setting to "Never". If you do that, it's probably best to make sure you
>>> have a screen saver enabled too.
>>>
>>> Otherwise, as the saying goes, "There's an app for that". I've used
>>> Amphetamine for years to prevent sleep when certain apps or processes
>>> are running, and it's a nice tool to have handy for such a thing:
>>>
>>> <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/amphetamine/id937984704?mt=12>
>>
>> Interesting. I'd not happened across this before.
>>
>> Do you also recommend THIS facility?
>>
>> https://github.com/x74353/Amphetamine-Enhancer
>
> Yes, but that's only needed if you need to create triggers for processes
> that don't appear in the non-enhanced version.

Thank you. Understood.

On 19/02/2022 13:10, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2022-02-19, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
>> In comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 18/02/2022 21:50, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>> On 2022-02-18, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
>>>>> Hello.
>>>>>
>>>>> How do I tell mac OS Big Sur v11.6.4 to never sleep when using in a 2020
>>>>> Intel MBP? I only want to set this as a test since I'm trying to figure
>>>>> out why this MBP crashes when waking up after sleeping once in a while.
>>>>> So far on power AC connection, it never crashes with sleep disabled.
>>>>> macOS Big Sur v11.6.(3&4) doesn't have an option to do that. I only can
>>>>> disable its power nap and display sleep.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)
>>>>
>>>> There should be an option in System Preferences > Energy Saver called
>>>> "Prevent your Mac from automatically sleeping when the display is off".
>>>> Enabling that option will cause the computer to stay awake even when the
>>>> display sleeps.
>>>>
>>>> If you want the display to never sleep, set the "Turn display off after"
>>>> setting to "Never". If you do that, it's probably best to make sure you
>>>> have a screen saver enabled too.
>>>>
>>>> Otherwise, as the saying goes, "There's an app for that". I've used
>>>> Amphetamine for years to prevent sleep when certain apps or processes
>>>> are running, and it's a nice tool to have handy for such a thing:
>>>>
>>>> <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/amphetamine/id937984704?mt=12>
>>
>>> Interesting. I'd not happened across this before.
>>
>>> Do you also recommend THIS facility?
>>
>>> https://github.com/x74353/Amphetamine-Enhancer
>>
>>> Thanks.
>>
>> Ooh. Interesting that Enhancer is from GitHub (not Apple's app store),
>> but it requires the original Amphetamine from Apple's App Store. I
>> wonder why not offer from Github too?
>
> That's explained on the same page under the "Why is a Separate App
> Needed?" heading... Try reading it. ; )

Ha! ;-)

>> Also, Redditors told me about caffeinate command in Terminal which works
>> too and already included in macOS!
>
> Unfortunately, caffeinate doesn't work anymore with modern versions of
> macOS.

I'm using macOS Monterey 12.2.1 and have installed Amphetamine from the
Apple App Store. It appears to do what I'd thought it should!

I've even got a nice message from the developer! https://ibb.co/sJzLyYY

In comp.sys.mac.software Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
> In message <PfidnZ0mEvP1y43_nZ2dnUU7-KednZ2d@earthlink.com> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> > In comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >> On 18/02/2022 20:06, Ant wrote:
> >> > Hello.
> >> >
> >> > How do I tell mac OS Big Sur v11.6.4 to never sleep when using in a 2020
> >> > Intel MBP? I only want to set this as a test since I'm trying to figure
> >> > out why this MBP crashes when waking up after sleeping once in a while.
> >> > So far on power AC connection, it never crashes with sleep disabled.
> >> > macOS Big Sur v11.6.(3&4) doesn't have an option to do that. I only can
> >> > disable its power nap and display sleep.
> >> >
> >> > Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)

> >> My best advice is that you simply update to Monterey 12.2.1

> >> Works like a dream!

> >> It's a BIG change. Set it in motion just before you go to bed and it
> >> will be up and running once you awake!

> > Is it still buggy?

> When was it "buggy"? During the beta, sure. Otherwise? No, it's been
> rock solid for tens of millions if not hundreds or millions of users.

> I'm currently on 12.3 beta, and it is also rock solid.

> Is it perfect? Of course not, nothing is. Does it crash, corrupt data,
> brick computers, or fail to work? No, it does not do any of these
> things.

> Maybe you should stop listening to idiot trolls?

I see lots of bugs in public stable versions like in Big Sur, iOS v15, etc.
--
Slammy Friday & Caturday during daytimes! Too much sleep, sickness, poops, pees, pains, spams, issues, videos, etc. :(
Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly.
/\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.home.dhs.org.
/ /\ /\ \ Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail.
| |o o| |
\ _ /
( )

In comp.sys.mac.software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2022-02-19, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> > In comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >> On 18/02/2022 21:50, Jolly Roger wrote:
> >> > On 2022-02-18, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> >> >> Hello.
> >> >>
> >> >> How do I tell mac OS Big Sur v11.6.4 to never sleep when using in a 2020
> >> >> Intel MBP? I only want to set this as a test since I'm trying to figure
> >> >> out why this MBP crashes when waking up after sleeping once in a while.
> >> >> So far on power AC connection, it never crashes with sleep disabled.
> >> >> macOS Big Sur v11.6.(3&4) doesn't have an option to do that. I only can
> >> >> disable its power nap and display sleep.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)
> >> >
> >> > There should be an option in System Preferences > Energy Saver called
> >> > "Prevent your Mac from automatically sleeping when the display is off".
> >> > Enabling that option will cause the computer to stay awake even when the
> >> > display sleeps.
> >> >
> >> > If you want the display to never sleep, set the "Turn display off after"
> >> > setting to "Never". If you do that, it's probably best to make sure you
> >> > have a screen saver enabled too.
> >> >
> >> > Otherwise, as the saying goes, "There's an app for that". I've used
> >> > Amphetamine for years to prevent sleep when certain apps or processes
> >> > are running, and it's a nice tool to have handy for such a thing:
> >> >
> >> > <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/amphetamine/id937984704?mt=12>
> >
> >> Interesting. I'd not happened across this before.
> >
> >> Do you also recommend THIS facility?
> >
> >> https://github.com/x74353/Amphetamine-Enhancer
> >
> >> Thanks.
> >
> > Ooh. Interesting that Enhancer is from GitHub (not Apple's app store),
> > but it requires the original Amphetamine from Apple's App Store. I
> > wonder why not offer from Github too?

> That's explained on the same page under the "Why is a Separate App
> Needed?" heading... Try reading it. ; )

I saw that, but why doesn't original Amphetamine have a downloadable
version from GitHub instead of App Store?

> > Also, Redditors told me about caffeinate command in Terminal which works
> > too and already included in macOS!

> Unfortunately, caffeinate doesn't work anymore with modern versions of
> macOS.

Dang it! Why did Apple even include it then?
--
Slammy Friday & Caturday during daytimes! Too much sleep, sickness, poops, pees, pains, spams, issues, videos, etc. :(
Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly.
/\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.home.dhs.org.
/ /\ /\ \ Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail.
| |o o| |
\ _ /
( )

In comp.sys.mac.software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2022-02-19, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> > In comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> >> On 2022-02-18, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> >> > Hello.
> >> >
> >> > How do I tell mac OS Big Sur v11.6.4 to never sleep when using in a 2020
> >> > Intel MBP? I only want to set this as a test since I'm trying to figure
> >> > out why this MBP crashes when waking up after sleeping once in a while.
> >> > So far on power AC connection, it never crashes with sleep disabled.
> >> > macOS Big Sur v11.6.(3&4) doesn't have an option to do that. I only can
> >> > disable its power nap and display sleep.
> >> >
> >> > Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)
> >
> >> There should be an option in System Preferences > Energy Saver called
> >> "Prevent your Mac from automatically sleeping when the display is off".
> >> Enabling that option will cause the computer to stay awake even when the
> >> display sleeps.
> >
> > Display sleep is OK, but I was talking about system's sleep. This one I
> > don't want to sleep at all.

> Then you should be good to go.

But https://i.imgur.com/1LmSzMK.png doesn't show an option to make
system not sleep. It only has power nap and display off options. Also,
macOS Big Sur doesn't have Energy Saver. I think it is called Battery.
--
Slammy Friday & Caturday during daytimes! Too much sleep, sickness, poops, pees, pains, spams, issues, videos, etc. :(
Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly.
/\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.home.dhs.org.
/ /\ /\ \ Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail.
| |o o| |
\ _ /
( )

In message <Q6qdnTY3dIJzrIz_nZ2dnUU7-TOdnZ2d@earthlink.com> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> In comp.sys.mac.software Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
>> In message <PfidnZ0mEvP1y43_nZ2dnUU7-KednZ2d@earthlink.com> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
>> > In comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> >> On 18/02/2022 20:06, Ant wrote:
>> >> > Hello.
>> >> >
>> >> > How do I tell mac OS Big Sur v11.6.4 to never sleep when using in a 2020
>> >> > Intel MBP? I only want to set this as a test since I'm trying to figure
>> >> > out why this MBP crashes when waking up after sleeping once in a while.
>> >> > So far on power AC connection, it never crashes with sleep disabled.
>> >> > macOS Big Sur v11.6.(3&4) doesn't have an option to do that. I only can
>> >> > disable its power nap and display sleep.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)

>> >> My best advice is that you simply update to Monterey 12.2.1

>> >> Works like a dream!

>> >> It's a BIG change. Set it in motion just before you go to bed and it
>> >> will be up and running once you awake!

>> > Is it still buggy?

>> When was it "buggy"? During the beta, sure. Otherwise? No, it's been
>> rock solid for tens of millions if not hundreds or millions of users.

>> I'm currently on 12.3 beta, and it is also rock solid.

>> Is it perfect? Of course not, nothing is. Does it crash, corrupt data,
>> brick computers, or fail to work? No, it does not do any of these
>> things.

>> Maybe you should stop listening to idiot trolls?

> I see lots of bugs in public stable versions like in Big Sur, iOS v15, etc.

Well then you should not use any software, because obviously you
consider it all "buggy"

--
"Are you pondering what I'm pondering?"
"Oh yes, Brain! Remind me to tape all our phone calls!"

In message <RMGdnca19JIzqoz_nZ2dnUU7-aPNnZ2d@earthlink.com> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> In comp.sys.mac.software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> On 2022-02-19, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
>> > In comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> >> On 2022-02-18, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
>> >> > Hello.
>> >> >
>> >> > How do I tell mac OS Big Sur v11.6.4 to never sleep when using in a 2020
>> >> > Intel MBP? I only want to set this as a test since I'm trying to figure
>> >> > out why this MBP crashes when waking up after sleeping once in a while.
>> >> > So far on power AC connection, it never crashes with sleep disabled.
>> >> > macOS Big Sur v11.6.(3&4) doesn't have an option to do that. I only can
>> >> > disable its power nap and display sleep.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)
>> >
>> >> There should be an option in System Preferences > Energy Saver called
>> >> "Prevent your Mac from automatically sleeping when the display is off".
>> >> Enabling that option will cause the computer to stay awake even when the
>> >> display sleeps.
>> >
>> > Display sleep is OK, but I was talking about system's sleep. This one I
>> > don't want to sleep at all.

>> Then you should be good to go.

> But https://i.imgur.com/1LmSzMK.png doesn't show an option to make
> system not sleep. It only has power nap and display off options. Also,
> macOS Big Sur doesn't have Energy Saver. I think it is called Battery.

Because you CANNOT disable sleep when on battery, just like I already
told you.

You can only disable sleep when the laptop is on power.

--
Shut up, just shut up, You had me at 'coach'.

In message <j7c8ieFh482U2@mid.individual.net> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> Unfortunately, caffeinate doesn't work anymore with modern versions of
> macOS.

Really? It's still in macOS 12.3, though I can't say I've ever used it.

#v+
$ which caffeinate
/usr/bin/caffeinate
$ uname -a
Darwin Zephyrus.local 21.4.0 Darwin Kernel Version 21.4.0: Mon Feb 7 21:32:19 PST 2022; root:xnu-8020.100.429.131.1~2/RELEASE_ARM64_T8101 arm64
#v-

--
I'm on the path, he thought. I don't have to know where it leads. I
just have to follow.

In comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
> In message <j7c8ieFh482U2@mid.individual.net> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> > Unfortunately, caffeinate doesn't work anymore with modern versions of
> > macOS.

> Really? It's still in macOS 12.3, though I can't say I've ever used it.

> #v+
> $ which caffeinate
> /usr/bin/caffeinate
> $ uname -a
> Darwin Zephyrus.local 21.4.0 Darwin Kernel Version 21.4.0: Mon Feb 7 21:32:19 PST 2022; root:xnu-8020.100.429.131.1~2/RELEASE_ARM64_T8101 arm64
> #v-

I tried it, but it doesn't seem to work.
--
Slammy Friday & Caturday during daytimes! Too much sleep, sickness, poops, pees, pains, spams, issues, videos, etc. :(
Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly.
/\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.home.dhs.org.
/ /\ /\ \ Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail.
| |o o| |
\ _ /
( )

On 2022-02-19, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> In comp.sys.mac.software Lewis <g.kreme@kreme.dont-email.me> wrote:
>> In message <PfidnZ0mEvP1y43_nZ2dnUU7-KednZ2d@earthlink.com> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
>> > In comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> >> On 18/02/2022 20:06, Ant wrote:
>> >> > Hello.
>> >> >
>> >> > How do I tell mac OS Big Sur v11.6.4 to never sleep when using
>> >> > in a 2020 Intel MBP? I only want to set this as a test since I'm
>> >> > trying to figure out why this MBP crashes when waking up after
>> >> > sleeping once in a while. So far on power AC connection, it
>> >> > never crashes with sleep disabled. macOS Big Sur v11.6.(3&4)
>> >> > doesn't have an option to do that. I only can disable its power
>> >> > nap and display sleep.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)
>
>> >> My best advice is that you simply update to Monterey 12.2.1
>
>> >> Works like a dream!
>
>> >> It's a BIG change. Set it in motion just before you go to bed and
>> >> it will be up and running once you awake!
>
>> > Is it still buggy?
>
>> When was it "buggy"? During the beta, sure. Otherwise? No, it's been
>> rock solid for tens of millions if not hundreds or millions of users.
>
>> I'm currently on 12.3 beta, and it is also rock solid.
>
>> Is it perfect? Of course not, nothing is. Does it crash, corrupt
>> data, brick computers, or fail to work? No, it does not do any of
>> these things.
>
>> Maybe you should stop listening to idiot trolls?
>
> I see lots of bugs in public stable versions like in Big Sur, iOS v15,
> etc.

By this flawed logic, you shouldn't use stable versions either.

The mere existence of bugs does not equate to "something to be avoided
at all costs". You seem to be incapable of making this distinction. No
software on this planet is bug-free. Get that through your thick head.

--
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

On 2022-02-19, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> In comp.sys.mac.software Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> On 2022-02-19, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
>> > In comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> >> On 18/02/2022 21:50, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> >> > On 2022-02-18, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
>> >> >> Hello.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> How do I tell mac OS Big Sur v11.6.4 to never sleep when using in a 2020
>> >> >> Intel MBP? I only want to set this as a test since I'm trying to figure
>> >> >> out why this MBP crashes when waking up after sleeping once in a while.
>> >> >> So far on power AC connection, it never crashes with sleep disabled.
>> >> >> macOS Big Sur v11.6.(3&4) doesn't have an option to do that. I only can
>> >> >> disable its power nap and display sleep.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)
>> >> >
>> >> > There should be an option in System Preferences > Energy Saver called
>> >> > "Prevent your Mac from automatically sleeping when the display is off".
>> >> > Enabling that option will cause the computer to stay awake even when the
>> >> > display sleeps.
>> >> >
>> >> > If you want the display to never sleep, set the "Turn display off after"
>> >> > setting to "Never". If you do that, it's probably best to make sure you
>> >> > have a screen saver enabled too.
>> >> >
>> >> > Otherwise, as the saying goes, "There's an app for that". I've used
>> >> > Amphetamine for years to prevent sleep when certain apps or processes
>> >> > are running, and it's a nice tool to have handy for such a thing:
>> >> >
>> >> > <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/amphetamine/id937984704?mt=12>
>> >
>> >> Interesting. I'd not happened across this before.
>> >
>> >> Do you also recommend THIS facility?
>> >
>> >> https://github.com/x74353/Amphetamine-Enhancer
>> >
>> >> Thanks.
>> >
>> > Ooh. Interesting that Enhancer is from GitHub (not Apple's app store),
>> > but it requires the original Amphetamine from Apple's App Store. I
>> > wonder why not offer from Github too?
>
>> That's explained on the same page under the "Why is a Separate App
>> Needed?" heading... Try reading it. ; )
>
> I saw that, but why doesn't original Amphetamine have a downloadable
> version from GitHub instead of App Store?

Because the developer wants it to be available on the App Store. Is
there an actual problem here, or are you just trying to manufacture one
out of thin air?>

>> > Also, Redditors told me about caffeinate command in Terminal which works
>> > too and already included in macOS!
>
>> Unfortunately, caffeinate doesn't work anymore with modern versions of
>> macOS.
>
> Dang it! Why did Apple even include it then?

*shrug* Who cares?

--
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR