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* Dear Andrew (or whoever you are)Tom Elam
`* Re: Dear Andrew (or whoever you are)Alan
 +- Re: Dear Andrew (or whoever you are)Tyrone
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Subject: Dear Andrew (or whoever you are)
From: Tom Elam
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2024 21:22 UTC
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Subject: Dear Andrew (or whoever you are)
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I hope to realize that the rants about iPhone battery capacity versus
Android actually does not prove anything except the iPhone has a
slightly smaller battery.

Example - the OnePlus 12R ran 18:42 (18.7 hours) in a recent 2024 test
on a 5500 mAh battery. In this same test the iPhone 15 Plus ran 14:14
(14.2 hours) on a reported 4383 mAh battery. 76% ratio on hours and 79%
ratio on battery capacity, very small difference. As for the Nothing
Phone 2 you like to mention it essentially tied the iPhone 15 Plus on
battery capacity and run time.

This is consistent with my extensive experience on both platforms.
Battery life on both will get you through a typical day, and 2 days with
light use. This is a good thing, no matter which platform you prefer.
Increased battery life has also made obsolete the need for battery swaps
that I liked as an option a few years ago.

Source:
https://www.tomsguide.com/us/smartphones-best-battery-life,review-2857.html

Subject: Re: Dear Andrew (or whoever you are)
From: Alan
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From: nuh-uh@nope.com (Alan)
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On 2024-07-30 14:22, Tom Elam wrote:
> I hope to realize that the rants about iPhone battery capacity versus
> Android actually does not prove anything except the iPhone has a
> slightly smaller battery.
>
> Example - the OnePlus 12R ran 18:42 (18.7 hours) in a recent 2024 test
> on a 5500 mAh battery. In this same test the iPhone 15 Plus ran 14:14
> (14.2 hours) on a reported 4383 mAh battery. 76% ratio on hours and 79%
> ratio on battery capacity, very small difference. As for the Nothing
> Phone 2 you like to mention it essentially tied the iPhone 15 Plus on
> battery capacity and run time.
>
> This is consistent with my extensive experience on both platforms.
> Battery life on both will get you through a typical day, and 2 days with
> light use. This is a good thing, no matter which platform you prefer.
> Increased battery life has also made obsolete the need for battery swaps
> that I liked as an option a few years ago.
>
> Source:
> https://www.tomsguide.com/us/smartphones-best-battery-life,review-2857.html

It's hard to know whether he's ignorant, or just lies and believes no
one can see through his bullshit.

Point out that iPhones last as long as other smartphones, and he'll
pivot to claiming that a smaller battery must wear out sooner...

....never appearing to realize that if two phones have the same run time,
then they experience the same number of power cycles in any given period.

Subject: Re: Dear Andrew (or whoever you are)
From: Tyrone
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On Jul 30, 2024 at 5:28:20 PM EDT, "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

> It's hard to know whether he's ignorant, or just lies and believes no
> one can see through his bullshit.

There is nothing to figure out. Because this is what trolls do: Beg for
attention by posting absurd claims that they KNOW someone will reply to. And
the same people here continue to give him the attention he wants.

Dance, puppets. Dance.

Subject: Re: Dear Andrew (or whoever you are)
From: Tom Elam
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Subject: Re: Dear Andrew (or whoever you are)
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On 7/30/2024 5:28 PM, Alan wrote:
> On 2024-07-30 14:22, Tom Elam wrote:
>> I hope to realize that the rants about iPhone battery capacity versus
>> Android actually does not prove anything except the iPhone has a
>> slightly smaller battery.
>>
>> Example - the OnePlus 12R ran 18:42 (18.7 hours) in a recent 2024 test
>> on a 5500 mAh battery. In this same test the iPhone 15 Plus ran 14:14
>> (14.2 hours) on a reported 4383 mAh battery. 76% ratio on hours and
>> 79% ratio on battery capacity, very small difference. As for the
>> Nothing Phone 2 you like to mention it essentially tied the iPhone 15
>> Plus on battery capacity and run time.
>>
>> This is consistent with my extensive experience on both platforms.
>> Battery life on both will get you through a typical day, and 2 days
>> with light use. This is a good thing, no matter which platform you
>> prefer. Increased battery life has also made obsolete the need for
>> battery swaps that I liked as an option a few years ago.
>>
>> Source:
>> https://www.tomsguide.com/us/smartphones-best-battery-life,review-2857.html
>
> It's hard to know whether he's ignorant, or just lies and believes no
> one can see through his bullshit.
>
> Point out that iPhones last as long as other smartphones, and he'll
> pivot to claiming that a smaller battery must wear out sooner...
>
> ...never appearing to realize that if two phones have the same run time,
> then they experience the same number of power cycles in any given period.

Another data point or two...my iPhone 14 Pro gets a lot of use. Thus a
lot of power cycles. I also made the mistake of using a wireless charger
in the car for a while. That seems to cause heat issues affecting
battery health. Anyway, 2 years in the battery is at 80% and I'm looking
at a replacement soon under Applecare+'s terms. It still goes 2 days
with light use, but that seldom happens. It just seems to get used a
lot. Of course that's because it's so useful. :)

The wife's iPhone 14 is also about 2 years old and the battery is at
95%. It gets moderate use and is on wireless charging at home. Never
seems to heat up.

The point? How you use AND charge a phone will affect battery life.

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