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Subject: Maybe this is why Mission race participation is down?
From: Tom Elam
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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2024 14:42 UTC
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJHm03osbHc

Canada is becoming unaffordable. And not just housing.

Subject: Re: Maybe this is why Mission race participation is down?
From: Alan
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Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2024 18:31 UTC
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On 2024-11-20 06:42, Tom Elam wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJHm03osbHc
>
> Canada is becoming unaffordable. And not just housing.

I love how you never miss an opportunity to show how much of an asshole
you are

Subject: Re: Maybe this is why Mission race participation is down?
From: Tom Elam
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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2024 14:57 UTC
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Subject: Re: Maybe this is why Mission race participation is down?
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On 11/20/2024 1:31 PM, Alan wrote:
> On 2024-11-20 06:42, Tom Elam wrote:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJHm03osbHc
>>
>> Canada is becoming unaffordable. And not just housing.
>
> I love how you never miss an opportunity to show how much of an asshole
> you are

An asshole for pointing that Vancouver is a very expensive city to try
and live in? Did you read the comments left by Canadians?

Don't blame me for Canada's unfolding economic nightmare!

Subject: Re: Maybe this is why Mission race participation is down?
From: Tom Elam
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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2024 14:59 UTC
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Subject: Re: Maybe this is why Mission race participation is down?
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On 11/20/2024 1:31 PM, Alan wrote:
> On 2024-11-20 06:42, Tom Elam wrote:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJHm03osbHc
>>
>> Canada is becoming unaffordable. And not just housing.
>
> I love how you never miss an opportunity to show how much of an asshole
> you are

And if you did not like that one read the comments in this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbit8ZS1GsA&lc=UgwwN_4YDQ-o-cgZlp14AaABAg.AB6BexuglUrAB6GX1T2U4t

Subject: Re: Maybe this is why Mission race participation is down?
From: Alan
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Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2024 18:39 UTC
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Subject: Re: Maybe this is why Mission race participation is down?
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On 2024-11-21 06:57, Tom Elam wrote:
> On 11/20/2024 1:31 PM, Alan wrote:
>> On 2024-11-20 06:42, Tom Elam wrote:
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJHm03osbHc
>>>
>>> Canada is becoming unaffordable. And not just housing.
>>
>> I love how you never miss an opportunity to show how much of an
>> asshole you are
>
> An asshole for pointing that Vancouver is a very expensive city to try
> and live in?

Yup.

Motive matters, asshole.

Subject: Re: Maybe this is why Mission race participation is down?
From: Alan
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On 2024-11-21 06:59, Tom Elam wrote:
> On 11/20/2024 1:31 PM, Alan wrote:
>> On 2024-11-20 06:42, Tom Elam wrote:
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJHm03osbHc
>>>
>>> Canada is becoming unaffordable. And not just housing.
>>
>> I love how you never miss an opportunity to show how much of an
>> asshole you are
>
> And if you did not like that one read the comments in this one:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbit8ZS1GsA&lc=UgwwN_4YDQ-o-
> cgZlp14AaABAg.AB6BexuglUrAB6GX1T2U4t

No thanks, asshole.

Bottom feeders like you can always find muck to rake.

Subject: Re: Maybe this is why Mission race participation is down?
From: Tom Elam
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Subject: Re: Maybe this is why Mission race participation is down?
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On 11/21/2024 1:40 PM, Alan wrote:
> On 2024-11-21 06:59, Tom Elam wrote:
>> On 11/20/2024 1:31 PM, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2024-11-20 06:42, Tom Elam wrote:
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJHm03osbHc
>>>>
>>>> Canada is becoming unaffordable. And not just housing.
>>>
>>> I love how you never miss an opportunity to show how much of an
>>> asshole you are
>>
>> And if you did not like that one read the comments in this one:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbit8ZS1GsA&lc=UgwwN_4YDQ-o-
>> cgZlp14AaABAg.AB6BexuglUrAB6GX1T2U4t
>
> No thanks, asshole.
>
> Bottom feeders like you can always find muck to rake.

LOL! in 2022 there was a spike in Canadians emigrating to the U.S. From
your own CBC!

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canadians-moving-to-the-us-hits-10-year-high-1.7218479
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/primary-care-canada-10-000-canadians-report-1.7125990

Americans moving to Canada, not so many. In 2023 10,640. Given the
difference in populations the per capita difference is something like 70
Canadians moving to the U.S. for every U.S. move to Canada.

https://canadaimmigrants.com/us-immigrants-to-canada/

There may be a spike after our 2024 elections, you are welcome to them.

Of course, both countries ARE attractive to migrants. The U.S. is so
attractive it became a major reason Trump is the next president.
Democrats way underestimated how we, including Latinos, feel about the
illegals. If we controlled immigration as well as Canada it would not be
such an issue here.

People literally walk hundreds of miles to get to our southern border.
Not many walk across Canada's southern border.

Subject: Re: Maybe this is why Mission race participation is down?
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On 11/23/24 9:42 AM, Tom Elam wrote:
> On 11/21/2024 1:40 PM, Alan wrote:
>> On 2024-11-21 06:59, Tom Elam wrote:
>>> On 11/20/2024 1:31 PM, Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2024-11-20 06:42, Tom Elam wrote:
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJHm03osbHc
>>>>>
>>>>> Canada is becoming unaffordable. And not just housing.
>>>>
>>>> I love how you never miss an opportunity to show how much of an
>>>> asshole you are
>>>
>>> And if you did not like that one read the comments in this one:
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbit8ZS1GsA&lc=UgwwN_4YDQ-o-
>>> cgZlp14AaABAg.AB6BexuglUrAB6GX1T2U4t
>>
>> No thanks, asshole.
>>
>> Bottom feeders like you can always find muck to rake.
>
> LOL! in 2022 there was a spike in Canadians emigrating to the U.S. From
> your own CBC!
>
> https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canadians-moving-to-the-us-hits-10-
> year-high-1.7218479
> https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/primary-care-canada-10-000-canadians-
> report-1.7125990
>
> Americans moving to Canada, not so many. In 2023 10,640. Given the
> difference in populations the per capita difference is something like 70
> Canadians moving to the U.S. for every U.S. move to Canada.
>
> https://canadaimmigrants.com/us-immigrants-to-canada/

Because there's been greater economic opportunity in the US for decades.
Had a friend move to Toronto back in the 1990s, for example.

Plus there's more depth than just the top line number. For example, the
second cite above indicates that born-in-CA emigrants was pretty steady
at ~40K/year, with a CoVid dip down to 26K and 2022's rebound to 53K is
probably just an rebound as it reverts to the mean.

> There may be a spike after our 2024 elections, you are welcome to them.

If the ACA gets cancelled, Medicare privatized, & Social Security gutted
as per P2025, who wouldn't be considering a move to Canada?

> Of course, both countries ARE attractive to migrants. The U.S. is so
> attractive it became a major reason Trump is the next president.
> Democrats way underestimated how we, including Latinos, feel about the
> illegals. If we controlled immigration as well as Canada it would not be
> such an issue here.
>
> People literally walk hundreds of miles to get to our southern border.
> Not many walk across Canada's southern border.

Except that Canada is increasingly concerned about the immigration
currently coming from the US, and just tightened their policies to try
to prevent a surge after 2024 making it an even bigger problem:

<https://stauber.house.gov/media/press-releases/stauber-letter-mayorkas-raises-concern-over-surge-illegal-immigration-northern>

-hh

Subject: Re: Maybe this is why Mission race participation is down?
From: Tom Elam
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On 11/21/2024 1:40 PM, Alan wrote:
> On 2024-11-21 06:59, Tom Elam wrote:
>> On 11/20/2024 1:31 PM, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2024-11-20 06:42, Tom Elam wrote:
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJHm03osbHc
>>>>
>>>> Canada is becoming unaffordable. And not just housing.
>>>
>>> I love how you never miss an opportunity to show how much of an
>>> asshole you are
>>
>> And if you did not like that one read the comments in this one:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbit8ZS1GsA&lc=UgwwN_4YDQ-o-
>> cgZlp14AaABAg.AB6BexuglUrAB6GX1T2U4t
>
> No thanks, asshole.
>
> Bottom feeders like you can always find muck to rake.

Not raking muck, those links are cream on the top of the evidence.

Remember back when you were bragging about how Vancouver housing costs
were so high because people want to live there?

Watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcMBKMWsVRc

The truth is that housing is increasingly unaffordable because demand
has outstripped supply. Part of that is due to increased, and legal,
immigration promoted by Ottowa. Vancouver and Toronto are the worst.

Why so many Canadians moving to the U.S.? Self-evident.

And as usual you dodge the truth and throw your muck.

Subject: Re: Maybe this is why Mission race participation is down?
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On 2024-11-23 15:45, Tom Elam wrote:
> On 11/21/2024 1:40 PM, Alan wrote:
>> On 2024-11-21 06:59, Tom Elam wrote:
>>> On 11/20/2024 1:31 PM, Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2024-11-20 06:42, Tom Elam wrote:
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJHm03osbHc
>>>>>
>>>>> Canada is becoming unaffordable. And not just housing.
>>>>
>>>> I love how you never miss an opportunity to show how much of an
>>>> asshole you are
>>>
>>> And if you did not like that one read the comments in this one:
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbit8ZS1GsA&lc=UgwwN_4YDQ-o-
>>> cgZlp14AaABAg.AB6BexuglUrAB6GX1T2U4t
>>
>> No thanks, asshole.
>>
>> Bottom feeders like you can always find muck to rake.
>
> Not raking muck, those links are cream on the top of the evidence.
>

Whine some more, asshole.

Subject: Re: Maybe this is why Mission race participation is down?
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On 11/23/2024 10:01 AM, -hh wrote:
> On 11/23/24 9:42 AM, Tom Elam wrote:
>> On 11/21/2024 1:40 PM, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2024-11-21 06:59, Tom Elam wrote:
>>>> On 11/20/2024 1:31 PM, Alan wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-11-20 06:42, Tom Elam wrote:
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJHm03osbHc
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Canada is becoming unaffordable. And not just housing.
>>>>>
>>>>> I love how you never miss an opportunity to show how much of an
>>>>> asshole you are
>>>>
>>>> And if you did not like that one read the comments in this one:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbit8ZS1GsA&lc=UgwwN_4YDQ-o-
>>>> cgZlp14AaABAg.AB6BexuglUrAB6GX1T2U4t
>>>
>>> No thanks, asshole.
>>>
>>> Bottom feeders like you can always find muck to rake.
>>
>> LOL! in 2022 there was a spike in Canadians emigrating to the U.S.
>> From your own CBC!
>>
>> https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canadians-moving-to-the-us-hits-10-
>> year-high-1.7218479
>> https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/primary-care-canada-10-000-canadians-
>> report-1.7125990
>>
>> Americans moving to Canada, not so many. In 2023 10,640. Given the
>> difference in populations the per capita difference is something like
>> 70 Canadians moving to the U.S. for every U.S. move to Canada.
>>
>> https://canadaimmigrants.com/us-immigrants-to-canada/
>
> Because there's been greater economic opportunity in the US for decades.
>  Had a friend move to Toronto back in the 1990s, for example.
>
> Plus there's more depth than just the top line number.  For example, the
> second cite above indicates that born-in-CA emigrants was pretty steady
> at ~40K/year, with a CoVid dip down to 26K and 2022's rebound to 53K is
> probably just an rebound as it reverts to the mean.
>
>
>> There may be a spike after our 2024 elections, you are welcome to them.
>
> If the ACA gets cancelled, Medicare privatized, & Social Security gutted
> as per P2025, who wouldn't be considering a move to Canada?
>
>
>> Of course, both countries ARE attractive to migrants. The U.S. is so
>> attractive it became a major reason Trump is the next president.
>> Democrats way underestimated how we, including Latinos, feel about the
>> illegals. If we controlled immigration as well as Canada it would not
>> be such an issue here.
>>
>> People literally walk hundreds of miles to get to our southern border.
>> Not many walk across Canada's southern border.
>
> Except that Canada is increasingly concerned about the immigration
> currently coming from the US, and just tightened their policies to try
> to prevent a surge after 2024 making it an even bigger problem:
>
> <https://stauber.house.gov/media/press-releases/stauber-letter-mayorkas-raises-concern-over-surge-illegal-immigration-northern>
>
>
> -hh
>
Canada has a huge problem. The dependency ratio is increasing long term
(dependent pop/total pop) as citizen birth rates have dropped. Thus
encourage immigration form countries with higher birth rates. That has
caused another problem:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcMBKMWsVRc

Subject: Re: Maybe this is why Mission race participation is down?
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On 11/23/24 6:50 PM, Tom Elam wrote:
> On 11/23/2024 10:01 AM, -hh wrote:
>> On 11/23/24 9:42 AM, Tom Elam wrote:
>>> On 11/21/2024 1:40 PM, Alan wrote:
>>>> On 2024-11-21 06:59, Tom Elam wrote:
>>>>> On 11/20/2024 1:31 PM, Alan wrote:
>>>>>> On 2024-11-20 06:42, Tom Elam wrote:
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJHm03osbHc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Canada is becoming unaffordable. And not just housing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I love how you never miss an opportunity to show how much of an
>>>>>> asshole you are
>>>>>
>>>>> And if you did not like that one read the comments in this one:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbit8ZS1GsA&lc=UgwwN_4YDQ-o-
>>>>> cgZlp14AaABAg.AB6BexuglUrAB6GX1T2U4t
>>>>
>>>> No thanks, asshole.
>>>>
>>>> Bottom feeders like you can always find muck to rake.
>>>
>>> LOL! in 2022 there was a spike in Canadians emigrating to the U.S.
>>> From your own CBC!
>>>
>>> https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canadians-moving-to-the-us-hits-10-
>>> year-high-1.7218479
>>> https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/primary-care-canada-10-000-
>>> canadians- report-1.7125990
>>>
>>> Americans moving to Canada, not so many. In 2023 10,640. Given the
>>> difference in populations the per capita difference is something like
>>> 70 Canadians moving to the U.S. for every U.S. move to Canada.
>>>
>>> https://canadaimmigrants.com/us-immigrants-to-canada/
>>
>> Because there's been greater economic opportunity in the US for
>> decades.   Had a friend move to Toronto back in the 1990s, for example.
>>
>> Plus there's more depth than just the top line number.  For example,
>> the second cite above indicates that born-in-CA emigrants was pretty
>> steady at ~40K/year, with a CoVid dip down to 26K and 2022's rebound
>> to 53K is probably just an rebound as it reverts to the mean.
>>
>>
>>> There may be a spike after our 2024 elections, you are welcome to them.
>>
>> If the ACA gets cancelled, Medicare privatized, & Social Security
>> gutted as per P2025, who wouldn't be considering a move to Canada?
>>
>>
>>> Of course, both countries ARE attractive to migrants. The U.S. is so
>>> attractive it became a major reason Trump is the next president.
>>> Democrats way underestimated how we, including Latinos, feel about
>>> the illegals. If we controlled immigration as well as Canada it would
>>> not be such an issue here.
>>>
>>> People literally walk hundreds of miles to get to our southern
>>> border. Not many walk across Canada's southern border.
>>
>> Except that Canada is increasingly concerned about the immigration
>> currently coming from the US, and just tightened their policies to try
>> to prevent a surge after 2024 making it an even bigger problem:
>>
>> <https://stauber.house.gov/media/press-releases/stauber-letter-
>> mayorkas-raises-concern-over-surge-illegal-immigration-northern>
>>
>>
>> -hh
>>
> Canada has a huge problem. The dependency ratio is increasing long term
> (dependent pop/total pop) as citizen birth rates have dropped. Thus
> encourage immigration form countries with higher birth rates. That has
> caused another problem:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcMBKMWsVRc

You've not looked at the USA's ratio, have you?

And FYI, the worst part is that we have a solution staring us in the
face, but the incoming Administration has promised to reject it.

-hh

Subject: Re: Maybe this is why Mission race participation is down?
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On 11/23/2024 10:17 PM, -hh wrote:
> On 11/23/24 6:50 PM, Tom Elam wrote:
>> On 11/23/2024 10:01 AM, -hh wrote:
>>> On 11/23/24 9:42 AM, Tom Elam wrote:
>>>> On 11/21/2024 1:40 PM, Alan wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-11-21 06:59, Tom Elam wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/20/2024 1:31 PM, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2024-11-20 06:42, Tom Elam wrote:
>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJHm03osbHc
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Canada is becoming unaffordable. And not just housing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I love how you never miss an opportunity to show how much of an
>>>>>>> asshole you are
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And if you did not like that one read the comments in this one:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbit8ZS1GsA&lc=UgwwN_4YDQ-o-
>>>>>> cgZlp14AaABAg.AB6BexuglUrAB6GX1T2U4t
>>>>>
>>>>> No thanks, asshole.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bottom feeders like you can always find muck to rake.
>>>>
>>>> LOL! in 2022 there was a spike in Canadians emigrating to the U.S.
>>>> From your own CBC!
>>>>
>>>> https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canadians-moving-to-the-us-hits-10-
>>>> year-high-1.7218479
>>>> https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/primary-care-canada-10-000-
>>>> canadians- report-1.7125990
>>>>
>>>> Americans moving to Canada, not so many. In 2023 10,640. Given the
>>>> difference in populations the per capita difference is something
>>>> like 70 Canadians moving to the U.S. for every U.S. move to Canada.
>>>>
>>>> https://canadaimmigrants.com/us-immigrants-to-canada/
>>>
>>> Because there's been greater economic opportunity in the US for
>>> decades.   Had a friend move to Toronto back in the 1990s, for example.
>>>
>>> Plus there's more depth than just the top line number.  For example,
>>> the second cite above indicates that born-in-CA emigrants was pretty
>>> steady at ~40K/year, with a CoVid dip down to 26K and 2022's rebound
>>> to 53K is probably just an rebound as it reverts to the mean.
>>>
>>>
>>>> There may be a spike after our 2024 elections, you are welcome to them.
>>>
>>> If the ACA gets cancelled, Medicare privatized, & Social Security
>>> gutted as per P2025, who wouldn't be considering a move to Canada?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Of course, both countries ARE attractive to migrants. The U.S. is so
>>>> attractive it became a major reason Trump is the next president.
>>>> Democrats way underestimated how we, including Latinos, feel about
>>>> the illegals. If we controlled immigration as well as Canada it
>>>> would not be such an issue here.
>>>>
>>>> People literally walk hundreds of miles to get to our southern
>>>> border. Not many walk across Canada's southern border.
>>>
>>> Except that Canada is increasingly concerned about the immigration
>>> currently coming from the US, and just tightened their policies to
>>> try to prevent a surge after 2024 making it an even bigger problem:
>>>
>>> <https://stauber.house.gov/media/press-releases/stauber-letter-
>>> mayorkas-raises-concern-over-surge-illegal-immigration-northern>
>>>
>>>
>>> -hh
>>>
>> Canada has a huge problem. The dependency ratio is increasing long
>> term (dependent pop/total pop) as citizen birth rates have dropped.
>> Thus encourage immigration form countries with higher birth rates.
>> That has caused another problem:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcMBKMWsVRc
>
> You've not looked at the USA's ratio, have you?
>
> And FYI, the worst part is that we have a solution staring us in the
> face, but the incoming Administration has promised to reject it.
>
> -hh

Oh but yes I have. I once taught a University of Indianapolis course
named "Economics of Aging" and devoted an entire lecture to this topic.
We have a dependency ratio problem too, as do almost all developed
economies.

Canada has not promoted residential development to match population
growth from skilled labor immigration. As this video explains Canadian
investment has been funneled to the U.S. where opportunities are better.
See the chart at 9:36. Demand increased, supply did not, housing prices
and rental rates soared while investment moved south.

The U.S. has allowed millions of unskilled low earning capacity migrants
(not immigrants) into the country, creating a different kind of housing
crisis. Ours is that too many of these migrants can't afford decent
housing of any kind, so they make do by stuffing themselves into small
cheap apartments.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htRKZJnJ7b4

Subject: Re: Maybe this is why Mission race participation is down?
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On 11/23/2024 6:49 PM, Alan wrote:
> On 2024-11-23 15:45, Tom Elam wrote:
>> On 11/21/2024 1:40 PM, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2024-11-21 06:59, Tom Elam wrote:
>>>> On 11/20/2024 1:31 PM, Alan wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-11-20 06:42, Tom Elam wrote:
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJHm03osbHc
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Canada is becoming unaffordable. And not just housing.
>>>>>
>>>>> I love how you never miss an opportunity to show how much of an
>>>>> asshole you are
>>>>
>>>> And if you did not like that one read the comments in this one:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbit8ZS1GsA&lc=UgwwN_4YDQ-o-
>>>> cgZlp14AaABAg.AB6BexuglUrAB6GX1T2U4t
>>>
>>> No thanks, asshole.
>>>
>>> Bottom feeders like you can always find muck to rake.
>>
>> Not raking muck, those links are cream on the top of the evidence.
>>
>
> Whine some more, asshole.

Your condo value appreciation that makes you rich on paper is a problem
for a lot of others who can't afford decent Vancouver housing. You are
really a self-centered asshole.

Another look at why the liberal-led Canadian economy favors the rich
while claiming to to be equitable:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htRKZJnJ7b4

Subject: Re: Maybe this is why Mission race participation is down?
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On 11/26/24 1:53 PM, Tom Elam wrote:
> On 11/23/2024 10:17 PM, -hh wrote:
>> On 11/23/24 6:50 PM, Tom Elam wrote:
>>> On 11/23/2024 10:01 AM, -hh wrote:
>>>> On 11/23/24 9:42 AM, Tom Elam wrote:
>>>>> On 11/21/2024 1:40 PM, Alan wrote:
>>>>>> On 2024-11-21 06:59, Tom Elam wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/20/2024 1:31 PM, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2024-11-20 06:42, Tom Elam wrote:
>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJHm03osbHc
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Canada is becoming unaffordable. And not just housing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I love how you never miss an opportunity to show how much of an
>>>>>>>> asshole you are
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And if you did not like that one read the comments in this one:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbit8ZS1GsA&lc=UgwwN_4YDQ-o-
>>>>>>> cgZlp14AaABAg.AB6BexuglUrAB6GX1T2U4t
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No thanks, asshole.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bottom feeders like you can always find muck to rake.
>>>>>
>>>>> LOL! in 2022 there was a spike in Canadians emigrating to the U.S.
>>>>> From your own CBC!
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canadians-moving-to-the-us-
>>>>> hits-10- year-high-1.7218479
>>>>> https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/primary-care-canada-10-000-
>>>>> canadians- report-1.7125990
>>>>>
>>>>> Americans moving to Canada, not so many. In 2023 10,640. Given the
>>>>> difference in populations the per capita difference is something
>>>>> like 70 Canadians moving to the U.S. for every U.S. move to Canada.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://canadaimmigrants.com/us-immigrants-to-canada/
>>>>
>>>> Because there's been greater economic opportunity in the US for
>>>> decades.   Had a friend move to Toronto back in the 1990s, for example.
>>>>
>>>> Plus there's more depth than just the top line number.  For example,
>>>> the second cite above indicates that born-in-CA emigrants was pretty
>>>> steady at ~40K/year, with a CoVid dip down to 26K and 2022's rebound
>>>> to 53K is probably just an rebound as it reverts to the mean.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> There may be a spike after our 2024 elections, you are welcome to
>>>>> them.
>>>>
>>>> If the ACA gets cancelled, Medicare privatized, & Social Security
>>>> gutted as per P2025, who wouldn't be considering a move to Canada?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Of course, both countries ARE attractive to migrants. The U.S. is
>>>>> so attractive it became a major reason Trump is the next president.
>>>>> Democrats way underestimated how we, including Latinos, feel about
>>>>> the illegals. If we controlled immigration as well as Canada it
>>>>> would not be such an issue here.
>>>>>
>>>>> People literally walk hundreds of miles to get to our southern
>>>>> border. Not many walk across Canada's southern border.
>>>>
>>>> Except that Canada is increasingly concerned about the immigration
>>>> currently coming from the US, and just tightened their policies to
>>>> try to prevent a surge after 2024 making it an even bigger problem:
>>>>
>>>> <https://stauber.house.gov/media/press-releases/stauber-letter-
>>>> mayorkas-raises-concern-over-surge-illegal-immigration-northern>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -hh
>>>>
>>> Canada has a huge problem. The dependency ratio is increasing long
>>> term (dependent pop/total pop) as citizen birth rates have dropped.
>>> Thus encourage immigration form countries with higher birth rates.
>>> That has caused another problem:
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcMBKMWsVRc
>>
>> You've not looked at the USA's ratio, have you?
>>
>> And FYI, the worst part is that we have a solution staring us in the
>> face, but the incoming Administration has promised to reject it.
>>
>> -hh
>
> Oh but yes I have. I once taught a University of Indianapolis course
> named "Economics of Aging" and devoted an entire lecture to this topic.

And this 'once upon a time' was ... how many decades ago?

> We have a dependency ratio problem too, as do almost all developed
> economies.

So is the US dependency ratio better than Canada's, for why you
specifically singled out Canada as not being an attempt to troll Alan?

Let's check: USA 54.4% vs Canada 53.6% = not better.

> Canada has not promoted residential development to match population
> growth from skilled labor immigration. As this video explains Canadian
> investment has been funneled to the U.S. where opportunities are better.
> See the chart at 9:36. Demand increased, supply did not, housing prices
> and rental rates soared while investment moved south.
>
> The U.S. has allowed millions of unskilled low earning capacity migrants
> (not immigrants) into the country, creating a different kind of housing
> crisis. Ours is that too many of these migrants can't afford decent
> housing of any kind, so they make do by stuffing themselves into small
> cheap apartments.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htRKZJnJ7b4

How is that really any different from 'Flop Houses' from a century ago?

Plus you're being conveniently silent on the point I made, namely:

"FYI, the worst part is that we have a solution staring us in the face,
but the incoming Administration has promised to reject it."

But yeah, sure, try to go point at Canada, for Luke 4:23-30 applies.

-hh

Subject: Re: Maybe this is why Mission race participation is down?
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On 2024-11-26 13:56, -hh wrote:
> On 11/26/24 1:53 PM, Tom Elam wrote:
>> On 11/23/2024 10:17 PM, -hh wrote:
>>> On 11/23/24 6:50 PM, Tom Elam wrote:
>>>> On 11/23/2024 10:01 AM, -hh wrote:
>>>>> On 11/23/24 9:42 AM, Tom Elam wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/21/2024 1:40 PM, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2024-11-21 06:59, Tom Elam wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 11/20/2024 1:31 PM, Alan wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2024-11-20 06:42, Tom Elam wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJHm03osbHc
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Canada is becoming unaffordable. And not just housing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I love how you never miss an opportunity to show how much of an
>>>>>>>>> asshole you are
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And if you did not like that one read the comments in this one:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbit8ZS1GsA&lc=UgwwN_4YDQ-o-
>>>>>>>> cgZlp14AaABAg.AB6BexuglUrAB6GX1T2U4t
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No thanks, asshole.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bottom feeders like you can always find muck to rake.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LOL! in 2022 there was a spike in Canadians emigrating to the U.S.
>>>>>> From your own CBC!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canadians-moving-to-the-us-
>>>>>> hits-10- year-high-1.7218479
>>>>>> https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/primary-care-canada-10-000-
>>>>>> canadians- report-1.7125990
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Americans moving to Canada, not so many. In 2023 10,640. Given the
>>>>>> difference in populations the per capita difference is something
>>>>>> like 70 Canadians moving to the U.S. for every U.S. move to Canada.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://canadaimmigrants.com/us-immigrants-to-canada/
>>>>>
>>>>> Because there's been greater economic opportunity in the US for
>>>>> decades.   Had a friend move to Toronto back in the 1990s, for
>>>>> example.
>>>>>
>>>>> Plus there's more depth than just the top line number.  For
>>>>> example, the second cite above indicates that born-in-CA emigrants
>>>>> was pretty steady at ~40K/year, with a CoVid dip down to 26K and
>>>>> 2022's rebound to 53K is probably just an rebound as it reverts to
>>>>> the mean.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> There may be a spike after our 2024 elections, you are welcome to
>>>>>> them.
>>>>>
>>>>> If the ACA gets cancelled, Medicare privatized, & Social Security
>>>>> gutted as per P2025, who wouldn't be considering a move to Canada?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course, both countries ARE attractive to migrants. The U.S. is
>>>>>> so attractive it became a major reason Trump is the next
>>>>>> president. Democrats way underestimated how we, including Latinos,
>>>>>> feel about the illegals. If we controlled immigration as well as
>>>>>> Canada it would not be such an issue here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> People literally walk hundreds of miles to get to our southern
>>>>>> border. Not many walk across Canada's southern border.
>>>>>
>>>>> Except that Canada is increasingly concerned about the immigration
>>>>> currently coming from the US, and just tightened their policies to
>>>>> try to prevent a surge after 2024 making it an even bigger problem:
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://stauber.house.gov/media/press-releases/stauber-letter-
>>>>> mayorkas-raises-concern-over-surge-illegal-immigration-northern>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -hh
>>>>>
>>>> Canada has a huge problem. The dependency ratio is increasing long
>>>> term (dependent pop/total pop) as citizen birth rates have dropped.
>>>> Thus encourage immigration form countries with higher birth rates.
>>>> That has caused another problem:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcMBKMWsVRc
>>>
>>> You've not looked at the USA's ratio, have you?
>>>
>>> And FYI, the worst part is that we have a solution staring us in the
>>> face, but the incoming Administration has promised to reject it.
>>>
>>> -hh
>>
>> Oh but yes I have. I once taught a University of Indianapolis course
>> named "Economics of Aging" and devoted an entire lecture to this topic.
>
> And this 'once upon a time' was ... how many decades ago?
>
>> We have a dependency ratio problem too, as do almost all developed
>> economies.
>
> So is the US dependency ratio better than Canada's, for why you
> specifically singled out Canada as not being an attempt to troll Alan?
>
> Let's check:  USA 54.4% vs Canada 53.6% = not better.
>
>
>
>> Canada has not promoted residential development to match population
>> growth from skilled labor immigration. As this video explains Canadian
>> investment has been funneled to the U.S. where opportunities are
>> better. See the chart at 9:36. Demand increased, supply did not,
>> housing prices and rental rates soared while investment moved south.
>>
>> The U.S. has allowed millions of unskilled low earning capacity
>> migrants (not immigrants) into the country, creating a different kind
>> of housing crisis. Ours is that too many of these migrants can't
>> afford decent housing of any kind, so they make do by stuffing
>> themselves into small cheap apartments.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htRKZJnJ7b4
>
> How is that really any different from 'Flop Houses' from a century ago?
>
> Plus you're being conveniently silent on the point I made, namely:
>
> "FYI, the worst part is that we have a solution staring us in the face,
> but the incoming Administration has promised to reject it."
>
> But yeah, sure, try to go point at Canada, for Luke 4:23-30 applies.
I'm an atheist, but I'm guessing that that's the one about the beam in
one's own eye.

:-)

Subject: Re: Maybe this is why Mission race participation is down?
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On 11/26/24 4:59 PM, Alan wrote:
> Luke 4:23-30

4:23 is where "Physician, heal thyself" came from.

23 Jesus said to them, “Surely you will quote this proverb to me:
‘Physician, heal yourself!’ And you will tell me, ‘Do here in your
hometown what we have heard that you did in Capernaum.’”

The rest was to get to a mic drop:

24...27

28 All the people in the synagogue were furious when they heard this. 29
They got up, drove him out of the town, and took him to the brow of the
hill on which the town was built, in order to throw him off the cliff.
30 But he walked right through the crowd and went on his way.

-hh

Subject: Re: Maybe this is why Mission race participation is down?
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On 2024-11-27 03:50, -hh wrote:
> On 11/26/24 4:59 PM, Alan wrote:
>> Luke 4:23-30
>
> 4:23 is where "Physician, heal thyself" came from.
>
> 23 Jesus said to them, “Surely you will quote this proverb to me:
> ‘Physician, heal yourself!’ And you will tell me, ‘Do here in your
> hometown what we have heard that you did in Capernaum.’”
>
>
> The rest was to get to a mic drop:
>
> 24...27
>
> 28 All the people in the synagogue were furious when they heard
> this. 29 They got up, drove him out of the town, and took him to the
> brow of the hill on which the town was built, in order to throw him
> off the cliff. 30 But he walked right through the crowd and went on
> his way.
Hey... ...I took a shot.

;-)

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