*Hemidactylus* wrote on Sat, 09 Nov 2024 10:42:54 +0000 :

>> Given you're the one who doesn't even understand his own quotes. It's clear
>> who's the troll.
>>
> The troll has tiny man ego syndrome. Note how he feigns greater knowledge
> in any endeavor anyone else brings up whether mobile computing, BMWs or
> immunology. For the last one knowing about SHM is key.

No. You Apple trolls understand nothing, not even basic sentences.

I never claimed to be a BMW expert - I simply claimed to own a bimmer and a
beemer and because of that, I know a *lot* about those two vehicles.

And yet, you Apple trolls who own a bimmer know *nothing* about them.
All you Apple trolls who own a bimmer know is what BMW MARKETING fed you.

That's my point.

It's not that I have "greater knowledge"; it's I have "normal" knowledge.
Everyone (but you) knows what I know about bimmers for example.

You Apple trolls don't even know Apple has the worst (by far!) customer
support in the industry for example - you have no clue that's just a fact.

You Apple trolls don't know anything. About anything.
Least of all about Apple products.

All you Apple trolls (Lewis, Jolly Roger, Alan Baker, Alan Browne, Chris,
Haemactylus, Joerg Lorenz, JF Mezei et. al) merely parrot Apple marketing.

Which you then defend to the death, no matter what.

Because your whole life you've been told you are stupid and yet Apple tells
you that you're a genius for waiting outside the store in long lines.

And you believe it.
Because Apple feeds your ego.

Andrews wrote:

>I never claimed to be a BMW expert - I simply claimed to own a bimmer
>and a beemer and because of that, I know a lot about those two
>vehicles.

I'm ignorant as to the difference between a "bimmer" and a "beemer" so
maybe you can explain it to me. Why don't people just say BMW? It's
not like that's a long acronym.

I may have mentioned this once. My mother who is German made sure I
knew how to pronounce Audi correctly. She hated when people pronounced
it "au-di" and said it's pronounced "ow-di".

badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>
[snip raving lunatic]
>
> I'm ignorant as to the difference between a "bimmer" and a "beemer" so
> maybe you can explain it to me. Why don't people just say BMW? It's
> not like that's a long acronym.
>
> I may have mentioned this once. My mother who is German made sure I
> knew how to pronounce Audi correctly. She hated when people pronounced
> it "au-di" and said it's pronounced "ow-di".
>
Arlen is a pseudointellectual hack who introduces irrelevant asides into a
discussion to parade why he thinks he’s more knowledgable than his many
targets. Why else would anyone arbitrarily introduce Einstein into a
discussion besides an exercise in pseudointellectual pretense? Only
wackaloons do that.

badgolferman wrote on Sat, 9 Nov 2024 15:05:28 -0000 (UTC) :

>>I never claimed to be a BMW expert - I simply claimed to own a bimmer
>>and a beemer and because of that, I know a lot about those two
>>vehicles.
>
> I'm ignorant as to the difference between a "bimmer" and a "beemer" so
> maybe you can explain it to me. Why don't people just say BMW? It's
> not like that's a long acronym.
>
> I may have mentioned this once. My mother who is German made sure I
> knew how to pronounce Audi correctly. She hated when people pronounced
> it "au-di" and said it's pronounced "ow-di".

I'm of German descent and I've always known what a bimmer & beemer are,
badgolferman - but - I've owned both bimmers and beemers also.

If I own something, I then learn what I need to learn to know everything I
want to know about it. In the case of the beemer, my 525i happens to have a
CCV valve, which happens to clog up, which happens to make it fail
California emissions - which means - I have to learn how to replace it.

You will *never forget* a CCV replacement badgolferman. Never.
It's not possible to forget because you have to rip the engine bay apart.

When you replace the cooling system, you will *never forget* that the Behr
expansion tank is just about as complicated as they could have made it.

When you replace the thermostat & waterpump, you will *never forget* the
special 32mm tools you need just to spin off the radiator fan which has to
be removed before you can get the serpentine belt off.

To get the serpentine belt off, you will *never forget* how strongly and
strangely designed the belt tensioners are that you have to also deal with.

When you fail emissions again, you have to deal with the DISA valve, which
is an expensive plastic piece of garbage that is on the intake manifold.

When you adjust your (admittedly rather comfortable leather) driver seat,
you will *never forget* the adjusting cable slips out of its clasp because
eventually they all get "seat twist" which you then have to deal with.

Speaking of the interior, the cupholders are a joke but you have to
periodically replace them because they break on every single 525i owner.

The trunk loom is a disaster just waiting to happen, depending on which
wires chafe and then short out against the others, causing all sorts of
strange electrical problems which are almost impossible to diagnose.

Speaking of impossible to diagnose, when the ABS control module goes out,
and it will because it fails on everyone - when you take it apart, you'll
be appalled at the "angel hairs" inside which simply break off at the weld.

All this - and more - is what will be inescapable to any bimmer owner who
owned the particular model that I owned since these problems are universal.

Those are just facts - but the *assessment* of those facts is my simple
summary that BMW does not know how to make systems work together.

Since *none* of those issues was in the drive train or suspension, I will
say that BMW makes those two systems work beautifully together.

Do you see what I'm trying to impart - which has nothing per se to do with
BMW but to do with *understanding* things that a normal person should do.

I (think I) understand how BMW thinks about the design of vehicles.
a. The drive train & suspension are what BMW cares about
b. Not anything else

Back to your question, it's a running joke among *all* BMW aficionados that
the noobs always come into the web site (such as bimmerfest.com) always
trying to tell us how much they know about their vehicle.

The instant they use the word beemer for a car, for example, we know
they're completely clueless morons who are posers like Alan Baker is.

If someone doesn't even know a beemer from a bimmer, they know nothing
about BMW vehicles as only the posers confuse the two critically important
terms (for most of us who own both - and I know you own a motorcycle too).

If a person tells you that you "drive" that big heavy Honda you own, you
would also instantly ascertain they know absolutely nothing about bikes.

Am I right?

The point here is the Apple trolls know nothing about Apple products.
In fact, the Apple trolls know nothing about anything.
They're all Dunning Kruger left of the first quartile on Mount Stupid.
You know this. I know this. Everyone knows this.

But those trolls themselves are who think they're geniuses for standing in
long lines outside the Apple store waiting along with other likewise Apple
geniuses to pay through the nose for a substandard product line from Apple.

All the Apple trolls (Lewis, Jolly Roger, Alan Baker, Alan Browne, Chris,
Haemactylus, Joerg Lorenz, JF Mezei et. al) merely parrot Apple marketing.

They don't actually know *anything* about the Apple products they love.
Just like none of them know anything about BMWs (the bikes or the cars).

Andrews wrote on Sat, 9 Nov 2024 17:23:15 -0000 (UTC) :

> In the case of the beemer

oops. bimmer. :)

On 2024-11-09 09:23, Andrews wrote:
> badgolferman wrote on Sat, 9 Nov 2024 15:05:28 -0000 (UTC) :
>
>>> I never claimed to be a BMW expert - I simply claimed to own a bimmer
>>> and a beemer and because of that, I know a lot about those two
>>> vehicles.
>>
>> I'm ignorant as to the difference between a "bimmer" and a "beemer" so
>> maybe you can explain it to me. Why don't people just say BMW? It's
>> not like that's a long acronym.
>>
>> I may have mentioned this once. My mother who is German made sure I
>> knew how to pronounce Audi correctly. She hated when people pronounced
>> it "au-di" and said it's pronounced "ow-di".
>
> I'm of German descent and I've always known what a bimmer & beemer are,
> badgolferman - but - I've owned both bimmers and beemers also.
>
> If I own something, I then learn what I need to learn to know everything I
> want to know about it. In the case of the beemer, my 525i happens to have a
> CCV valve, which happens to clog up, which happens to make it fail
> California emissions - which means - I have to learn how to replace it.

You incredible simpleton:

Every engine is REQUIRED to have a crank case ventilation system.

*Hemidactylus* wrote on Sat, 09 Nov 2024 16:51:27 +0000 :

>> I'm ignorant as to the difference between a "bimmer" and a "beemer" so
>> maybe you can explain it to me. Why don't people just say BMW? It's
>> not like that's a long acronym.
>>
> Arlen is a pseudointellectual hack who introduces irrelevant asides into a
> discussion to parade why he thinks he's more knowledgable than his many
> targets. Why else would anyone arbitrarily introduce Einstein into a
> discussion besides an exercise in pseudointellectual pretense? Only
> wackaloons do that.

What's interesting is the Apple trolls like Hemidactylus, who know nothing
about anything, instantly assume that terms are for "pseudointellectuals".

Notice that normal people (like badgolferman) simply ask why all BMW
aficionados use these specific terms, while the hoi polloi don't know them.

Yet these Apple trolls, who, of course, don't know BMW terms & yet they
claim to own BMWs, call anyone who knows anything, a "pseudointellectual".

Since badgolferman rides a Gold Wing (which Honda doesn't usually refer to
as a "Goldwing" but many people do), he knows the terms "ride" & "drive".

If someone walks up to him saying "I know everything about Goldwings
because I drive one myself", badgolferman would know he is a poser.

This is relevant because all th Apple trolls are posers.
They're all on Mount Stupid to the left of the 1st Dunning-Kruger quadrile.

Which is why it was important to destroy the poser who claimed to be a
physicist and yet he didn't even realize gravity is not a force.

Likewise with Alan Baker who claims to "teach racing" and yet Alan has no
idea whatsoever of what a catenary is - which is a common term for curves.

Similarly with Jolly Roger who claims that Apple fully supports older
releases when the fact is even Apple says they have never ever done that.

Same with Chris who claims to own a doctorate in the medical sciences and
yet he ridicules common immunology terms like "vehicle" which everyone
learns in their very first class in immunology or his claim that an RNA
genome of 30K subunits is tiny - when in fact - it's HUGE for RNA virions.

My main point is that all these Apple trolls are posers.

All the Apple trolls (Lewis, Jolly Roger, Alan Baker, Alan Browne, Chris,
Haemactylus, Joerg Lorenz, JF Mezei et. al) merely parrot Apple marketing.

They don't actually know *anything* about the Apple products they love.

Andrews wrote:

>Yet these Apple trolls, who, of course, don't know BMW terms & yet
>they claim to own BMWs, call anyone who knows anything, a
>"pseudointellectual".
>
>Since badgolferman rides a Gold Wing (which Honda doesn't usually
>refer to as a "Goldwing" but many people do), he knows the terms
>"ride" & "drive".
>
>If someone walks up to him saying "I know everything about Goldwings
>because I drive one myself", badgolferman would know he is a poser.

Speaking of Goldwings, when I first got mine I noticed on various
websites the spelling alternated between Goldwing, Gold Wing, and
GL1800. Of course GL1800 is the official model of the motorcycle, and
mine is a 2002 GL1800A which denotes one with ABS.

I asked the guy who sold it to me whether it was a Goldwing or Gold
Wing and he told me Goldwing. He referred me to the manual and the
trim pieces on the bike which say Goldwing. I have seen the Honda
website which says Gold Wing, but frankly I think that was designed or
edited by someone who doesn't know the history of the motorcycle. I
don't really know, other than what the LCD display, manual and placard
on my bike say -- Goldwing.

On 2024-11-09 09:43, Andrews wrote:
> *Hemidactylus* wrote on Sat, 09 Nov 2024 16:51:27 +0000 :
>
>>> I'm ignorant as to the difference between a "bimmer" and a "beemer" so
>>> maybe you can explain it to me. Why don't people just say BMW? It's
>>> not like that's a long acronym.
>>>
>> Arlen is a pseudointellectual hack who introduces irrelevant asides into a
>> discussion to parade why he thinks he's more knowledgable than his many
>> targets. Why else would anyone arbitrarily introduce Einstein into a
>> discussion besides an exercise in pseudointellectual pretense? Only
>> wackaloons do that.
>
> What's interesting is the Apple trolls like Hemidactylus, who know nothing
> about anything, instantly assume that terms are for "pseudointellectuals".
>
> Notice that normal people (like badgolferman) simply ask why all BMW
> aficionados use these specific terms, while the hoi polloi don't know them.

I would wager large that most BMW aficionados have never heard most of
the terms you've used.

>
> Yet these Apple trolls, who, of course, don't know BMW terms & yet they
> claim to own BMWs, call anyone who knows anything, a "pseudointellectual".
>
> Since badgolferman rides a Gold Wing (which Honda doesn't usually refer to
> as a "Goldwing" but many people do), he knows the terms "ride" & "drive".

Honda doesn't, do they?

<https://powersports.honda.com/motorcycle/touring/gold-wing>

>
> If someone walks up to him saying "I know everything about Goldwings
> because I drive one myself", badgolferman would know he is a poser.
>
> This is relevant because all th Apple trolls are posers.
> They're all on Mount Stupid to the left of the 1st Dunning-Kruger quadrile.
>
> Which is why it was important to destroy the poser who claimed to be a
> physicist and yet he didn't even realize gravity is not a force.
>
> Likewise with Alan Baker who claims to "teach racing" and yet Alan has no
> idea whatsoever of what a catenary is - which is a common term for curves.

I know exactly what a catenary is and I also know that it is not a
"common term for curves" in general, but rather a very specific term for
the curve created by a rope (or chain) supported at both ends and pulled
downward by gravity under it's own weight.

I also know that that it has never been mentioned as the curve a racing
car follows when going through a corner in any of the numerous books I
have read on the subject.

On 2024-11-09 07:05, badgolferman wrote:
> Andrews wrote:
>
>> I never claimed to be a BMW expert - I simply claimed to own a bimmer
>> and a beemer and because of that, I know a lot about those two
>> vehicles.
>
> I'm ignorant as to the difference between a "bimmer" and a "beemer" so
> maybe you can explain it to me. Why don't people just say BMW? It's
> not like that's a long acronym.

I'll explain:

Arlen tried to make a meal out of the fact that I own a BMW (2012 135i M
Sport Edition in Lemans Blue to be precise) and didn't know
that--according to him--one of those terms is use to refer to BMW
motorcycles and the other for BMW cars.

And from that he tried to claim that:

1. I couldn't possibly own one.

2. That I could possibly be a racing driver and road racing instructor.

:-)

Andrews wrote:

>You will *never forget* a CCV replacement badgolferman. Never.
>It's not possible to forget because you have to rip the engine bay
>apart.
>
>When you replace the cooling system, you will *never forget* that the
>Behr expansion tank is just about as complicated as they could have
>made it.
>
>When you replace the thermostat & waterpump, you will *never forget*
>the special 32mm tools you need just to spin off the radiator fan
>which has to be removed before you can get the serpentine belt off.
>
>To get the serpentine belt off, you will *never forget* how strongly
>and strangely designed the belt tensioners are that you have to also
>deal with.
>
>When you fail emissions again, you have to deal with the DISA valve,
>which is an expensive plastic piece of garbage that is on the intake
>manifold.
>
>When you adjust your (admittedly rather comfortable leather) driver
>seat, you will *never forget* the adjusting cable slips out of its
>clasp because eventually they all get "seat twist" which you then
>have to deal with.

What you describe reminds me of the air filter replacement on my
Goldwing. The joke is the designers started with an air filter and
built the entire bike around it.

An air filter is a routine maintenance item which Honda recommends
replacing every 12K miles. You would think if a routine maintenance
item should be replaced that frequently there would be easy access to
it, like a latched door or something similar. But no, Honda buried the
air filter so deep into the middle of the bike that it requires the
entire dash, center fairings, ECU, and a hundred connectors removed
before you can access the air box. The dealer charged me $350 to
replace it last year. Hardly anyone will tackle this task, knowing the
extent which the bike has to be torn down. As a result air filters on
Goldwings rarely get replaced. At the time my bike had 100K miles and
I didn't know if it had ever been done so I took it in for that and
some other things.

On the flip side though, taking the rear wheel off is fairly easy.
Much like a car tire because it's shaft driven rather than chain or
belt driven. Even a lift isn't required because there's a rear access
panel which allows you to slide the wheel out. If only they had built
in an access panel for the air filter...

--
"The word "genius" isn't applicable in football. A genius is a guy
like Norman Einstein." ~ Joe Theismann

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2024-11-09 07:05, badgolferman wrote:
>>
[snip troll]
>>
>> I'm ignorant as to the difference between a "bimmer" and a "beemer" so
>> maybe you can explain it to me. Why don't people just say BMW? It's
>> not like that's a long acronym.
>
> I'll explain:
>
> Arlen tried to make a meal out of the fact that I own a BMW (2012 135i M
> Sport Edition in Lemans Blue to be precise) and didn't know
> that--according to him--one of those terms is use to refer to BMW
> motorcycles and the other for BMW cars.
>
> And from that he tried to claim that:
>
> 1. I couldn't possibly own one.
>
> 2. That I could possibly be a racing driver and road racing instructor.
>
> :-)
>
Making an epistemic point here it is often the case those who have a
knowledgable grounding in various topics exhibit some humility toward such
topics. Those lacking a modicum of knowledge are quite braggadocious. Arlen
obviously exhibits a pathological conceit of knowledge most anyone can
recognize on the spot, except himself. Arlen lacks reflective
self-awareness and the result is what we witness on a daily basis on
usenet.

RoadRacer wrote:

>>Since badgolferman rides a Gold Wing (which Honda doesn't usually
>>refer to as a "Goldwing" but many people do), he knows the terms
>>"ride" & "drive".
>
>Honda doesn't, do they?
>
><https://powersports.honda.com/motorcycle/touring/gold-wing>

Umm...

https://ibb.co/9V0zXVj
https://ibb.co/XLSFWBh
https://ibb.co/NxDGSht
https://ibb.co/sRxQXBf

On 2024-11-09 10:42, badgolferman wrote:
> RoadRacer wrote:
>
>>> Since badgolferman rides a Gold Wing (which Honda doesn't usually
>>> refer to as a "Goldwing" but many people do), he knows the terms
>>> "ride" & "drive".
>>
>> Honda doesn't, do they?
>>
>> <https://powersports.honda.com/motorcycle/touring/gold-wing>
>
>
>
> Umm...
>
> https://ibb.co/9V0zXVj
> https://ibb.co/XLSFWBh
> https://ibb.co/NxDGSht
> https://ibb.co/sRxQXBf

Yes.

That was MY POINT.

Learn to read for comprehension.

Alan wrote:

>On 2024-11-09 10:42, badgolferman wrote:
>>RoadRacer wrote:
>>
>>>>Since badgolferman rides a Gold Wing (which Honda doesn't
>>>>usually refer to as a "Goldwing" but many people do), he knows
>>>>the terms "ride" & "drive".
>>>
>>>Honda doesn't, do they?
>>>
>>><https://powersports.honda.com/motorcycle/touring/gold-wing>
>>
>>
>>
>>Umm...
>>
>>https://ibb.co/9V0zXVj
>>https://ibb.co/XLSFWBh
>>https://ibb.co/NxDGSht
>>https://ibb.co/sRxQXBf
>
>Yes.
>
>That was MY POINT.
>
>Learn to read for comprehension.

You made no point. You provided a link to the Honda website showing it
say Gold Wing. Be more clear when communicating with other people.
Right now the only point I see is the one on top of your head.

badgolferman wrote on Sat, 9 Nov 2024 18:09:39 -0000 (UTC) :

>>If someone walks up to him saying "I know everything about Goldwings
>>because I drive one myself", badgolferman would know he is a poser.
>
> Speaking of Goldwings, when I first got mine I noticed on various
> websites the spelling alternated between Goldwing, Gold Wing, and
> GL1800. Of course GL1800 is the official model of the motorcycle, and
> mine is a 2002 GL1800A which denotes one with ABS.
>
> I asked the guy who sold it to me whether it was a Goldwing or Gold
> Wing and he told me Goldwing. He referred me to the manual and the
> trim pieces on the bike which say Goldwing. I have seen the Honda
> website which says Gold Wing, but frankly I think that was designed or
> edited by someone who doesn't know the history of the motorcycle. I
> don't really know, other than what the LCD display, manual and placard
> on my bike say -- Goldwing.

Hi badgolferman,

You just made my point perfectly for me, in that I don't know a damn thing
about Honda bikes - so I don't even know myself if it's a Gold Wing or not.

I see Honda advertises at their bike site it as a "Gold Wing"...
<https://powersports.honda.com/motorcycle/touring/gold-wing>

But your point is well taken that I don't know a damn thing about
GoldWings/Goldwings, and you can tell because I don't know the terms.

Yet....

I do know the difference between "riding" a bike and "driving" it.
As do you.

Anyone using the term "driving" a bike is a noob so if they then claim to
know everything about it (as the Apple trolls do for so many things), then
they're just posers.

Which is my point.

These Apple trolls (Lewis, Jolly Roger, Alan Baker, Alan Browne, Chris,
Haemactylus, Joerg Lorenz, JF Mezei et. al) merely parrot Apple marketing.

They don't actually know anything - about anything.

badgolferman wrote on Sat, 9 Nov 2024 18:25:11 -0000 (UTC) :

> If only they had built
> in an access panel for the air filter...

Same with the CCV on my 525i which is merely a PCV but with a far more
complex design such that BMW decided to call it, instead, a CCV.

It's horribly complicated.

And as a result, it *always* eats itself up in just a few years.

So *everyone* with that bimmer model has to replace it.

Like your Gold%20Wing/Gold-Wing/Goldwing/etc. air filter joke, it's as if
BMW started with a CCV and then built the entire engine around that one
emissions component.

It wouldn't be so bad if it didn't fail emissions - but it often does.

So everyone who knows anything about that bimmer model is well acquainted
with the CCV (among other horridly designed engine components).

If they claim to be knowledgeable in that model, and if they don't know
about the CCV, then it's clear that they're just posers playing games.

Like Alan Baker who never knew what a catenary was until I explained it to
him in terms of sweeping around curves at constant speeds.

Alan Baker was so stupid, even after he looked it up - he thought it was
about bridges - which proves yet again my point these Apple trolls are
incredibly uneducated, and hence ignorant of everything - especially Apple
products.

Even when told a catenary had to do with taking curves at speed, these
Apple trolls insisted a catenary has only to do with suspension bridges.

That's how stupid these Apple trolls truly are.

They read Wikipedia, which I'm sure mentions suspension bridges, and they
don't have the education to flip the terms 90 degrees to sweeping out
curves at constant speed.

They're morons.

Which is my point.

My main point is that all these Apple trolls are posers.

All the Apple trolls (Lewis, Jolly Roger, Alan Baker, Alan Browne, Chris,
Haemactylus, Joerg Lorenz, JF Mezei et. al) merely parrot Apple marketing.

They don't actually know *anything* about the Apple products they love.
In fact, it's patently obvious they don't know anything about anything.

On 2024-11-09 11:56, Andrews wrote:
> badgolferman wrote on Sat, 9 Nov 2024 18:25:11 -0000 (UTC) :
>
>> If only they had built
>> in an access panel for the air filter...
>
> Same with the CCV on my 525i which is merely a PCV but with a far more
> complex design such that BMW decided to call it, instead, a CCV.
>
> It's horribly complicated.
>
> And as a result, it *always* eats itself up in just a few years.
>
> So *everyone* with that bimmer model has to replace it.
>
> Like your Gold%20Wing/Gold-Wing/Goldwing/etc. air filter joke, it's as if
> BMW started with a CCV and then built the entire engine around that one
> emissions component.
>
> It wouldn't be so bad if it didn't fail emissions - but it often does.
>
> So everyone who knows anything about that bimmer model is well acquainted
> with the CCV (among other horridly designed engine components).
>
> If they claim to be knowledgeable in that model, and if they don't know
> about the CCV, then it's clear that they're just posers playing games.
>
> Like Alan Baker who never knew what a catenary was until I explained it to
> him in terms of sweeping around curves at constant speeds.

Except you don't "sweep around curves at constant speeds" when you're
road racing, Arlen.

>
> Alan Baker was so stupid, even after he looked it up - he thought it was
> about bridges - which proves yet again my point these Apple trolls are
> incredibly uneducated, and hence ignorant of everything - especially Apple
> products.

Nope. That's simply false.

>
> Even when told a catenary had to do with taking curves at speed, these
> Apple trolls insisted a catenary has only to do with suspension bridges.

False again.

>
> That's how stupid these Apple trolls truly are.
>
> They read Wikipedia, which I'm sure mentions suspension bridges, and they
> don't have the education to flip the terms 90 degrees to sweeping out
> curves at constant speed.

You don't take curves at constant speeds when racing, doofus.

On 11/9/24 10:05 AM, badgolferman wrote:
> Andrews wrote:
>
>> I never claimed to be a BMW expert - I simply claimed to own a bimmer
>> and a beemer and because of that, I know a lot about those two
>> vehicles.
>
> I'm ignorant as to the difference between a "bimmer" and a "beemer" so
> maybe you can explain it to me. Why don't people just say BMW? It's
> not like that's a long acronym.

Looks like no one cleanly answered your question.

FWIW, I always have to go look up this trivia, as I've never become
invested enough in BMW to care enough to remember:

Bimmer is the slang for BMW's automobiles;
Beemer is the slang for BMW's motorcycles.

> I may have mentioned this once. My mother who is German made sure I
> knew how to pronounce Audi correctly. She hated when people pronounced
> it "au-di" and said it's pronounced "ow-di".

Similarly, that Porsche is two syllables, not one.

-hh

On 2024-11-11 17:46:20 +0000, -hh said:

> On 11/9/24 10:05 AM, badgolferman wrote:
>> Andrews wrote:
>>
>>> I never claimed to be a BMW expert - I simply claimed to own a bimmer
>>> and a beemer and because of that, I know a lot about those two
>>> vehicles.
>>
>> I'm ignorant as to the difference between a "bimmer" and a "beemer" so
>> maybe you can explain it to me. Why don't people just say BMW? It's
>> not like that's a long acronym.
>
> Looks like no one cleanly answered your question.
>
> FWIW, I always have to go look up this trivia, as I've never become
> invested enough in BMW to care enough to remember:
>
> Bimmer is the slang for BMW's automobiles;
> Beemer is the slang for BMW's motorcycles.

Doesn't work. Many people call the cars "Beemers".

>> I may have mentioned this once. My mother who is German made sure I
>> knew how to pronounce Audi correctly. She hated when people pronounced
>> it "au-di" and said it's pronounced "ow-di".
>
> Similarly, that Porsche is two syllables, not one.

It's likely mostly Americans who can't pronounce it properly. They have
enough trouble with proper English, let alone any other language. :-p

On 2024-11-11 13:12, Your Name wrote:
> On 2024-11-11 17:46:20 +0000, -hh said:
>
>> On 11/9/24 10:05 AM, badgolferman wrote:
>>> Andrews wrote:
>>>
>>>> I never claimed to be a BMW expert - I simply claimed to own a bimmer
>>>> and a beemer and because of that, I know a lot about those two
>>>> vehicles.
>>>
>>> I'm ignorant as to the difference between a "bimmer" and a "beemer" so
>>> maybe you can explain it to me.  Why don't people just say BMW?  It's
>>> not like that's a long acronym.
>>
>> Looks like no one cleanly answered your question.
>>
>> FWIW, I always have to go look up this trivia, as I've never become
>> invested enough in BMW to care enough to remember:
>>
>> Bimmer is the slang for BMW's automobiles;
>> Beemer is the slang for BMW's motorcycles.
>
> Doesn't work. Many people call the cars "Beemers".

And normal people don't decide that people can't own a BMW...

....based on whether or not they know the slang terminology.

:-)

>>> I may have mentioned this once.  My mother who is German made sure I
>>> knew how to pronounce Audi correctly.  She hated when people pronounced
>>> it "au-di" and said it's pronounced "ow-di".
>>
>> Similarly, that Porsche is two syllables, not one.
>
> It's likely mostly Americans who can't pronounce it properly. They have
> enough trouble with proper English, let alone any other language.  :-p
"Hey I finished painting, but you don't have a "porch"...

....you've got a Ferrari".

:-)

On 2024-11-11, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2024-11-11 13:12, Your Name wrote:
>> On 2024-11-11 17:46:20 +0000, -hh said:
>>> On 11/9/24 10:05 AM, badgolferman wrote:
>>>> Andrews wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I never claimed to be a BMW expert - I simply claimed to own a
>>>>> bimmer and a beemer and because of that, I know a lot about those
>>>>> two vehicles.
>>>>
>>>> I'm ignorant as to the difference between a "bimmer" and a "beemer"
>>>> so maybe you can explain it to me.  Why don't people just say BMW? 
>>>> It's not like that's a long acronym.
>>>
>>> Looks like no one cleanly answered your question.
>>>
>>> FWIW, I always have to go look up this trivia, as I've never become
>>> invested enough in BMW to care enough to remember:
>>>
>>> Bimmer is the slang for BMW's automobiles;
>>> Beemer is the slang for BMW's motorcycles.
>>
>> Doesn't work. Many people call the cars "Beemers".
>
> And normal people don't decide that people can't own a BMW...
>
> ...based on whether or not they know the slang terminology.
>
>:-)

Which slang to use isn't anywhere near a high priority for normal
people. And the only reason Arlen mentions it is to belittle people he
dislikes..

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Your Name wrote on Tue, 12 Nov 2024 10:12:52 +1300 :

>> Bimmer is the slang for BMW's automobiles;
>> Beemer is the slang for BMW's motorcycles.
>
> Doesn't work. Many people call the cars "Beemers".

Just like nobody who owns a motorcycle "drives" it, anyone calling their
car a "beamer" is instantly recognizable as a poser who knows nothing.

Which was my point that Alan G. Baker claimed to own a bimmer and to teach
racing and yet he doesn't know the very first thing about either topic.

All you Apple trolls are posers (Jolly Roger, Alan Baker, Alan Browne,
Chris, Haemactylus, Joerg Lorenz, et al.) who know nothing about anything.

Jolly Roger wrote on 12 Nov 2024 01:36:27 GMT :

> Which slang to use isn't anywhere near a high priority for normal
> people. And the only reason Arlen mentions it is to belittle people he
> dislikes..

The point of bringing up the catenary or bimmer is that you Apple trolls
don't know anything about anything - which is a trait you all possess.

Both are the most basic terms *anyone* would know who knows anything.
But not you Apple trolls.

You know nothing.

Apple trolls are squarely on top of Mount Stupid on everything, JR.

None of you Apple trolls understands even the DK seminal papers, but in
their terminology, you're all to the left of the first DK quadrile.

"The Dunning-Kruger effect is strongest when we're in the
first stage, unconscious incompetence. If we don't know what
we don't know, the Dunning-Kruger effect says, then we're
actually more likely to feel confident than others at higher
stages of competence."

You Apple trolls don't know the first thing about anything.

Not cars. Not curves. Not immunology. Not even headers for God's sake
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/EiNl6hyMBDo/>

Who on earth is _that_ stupid? Nobody.

Except you Apple trolls.

All the Apple trolls (Jolly Roger, Alan Baker, Alan Browne, Chris,
Haemactylus, Joerg Lorenz, et. al) know nothing about anything.

On 2024-11-11 18:46, Andrews wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote on 12 Nov 2024 01:36:27 GMT :
>
>> Which slang to use isn't anywhere near a high priority for normal
>> people. And the only reason Arlen mentions it is to belittle people he
>> dislikes..
> The point of bringing up the catenary or bimmer is that you Apple trolls
> don't know anything about anything - which is a trait you all possess.

And my point is that you know nothing about racing, because not a SINGLE
experienced racing driver I've ever known has ever mentioned the
catenary curve as being in any way related to the fastest line through a
corner.