On 9/3/2023 1:59 PM, Harry Classon wrote:
> måndag 28 augusti 2023 kl. 00:39:19 UTC+2 skrev Stephen W:

>> I'm holding out for Starfield
> lmao this thread is over 20 years old people still writing lmaooo

and why shouldn't they?

On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 5:41:26 PM UTC-6, Kyonshi wrote:
> On 9/3/2023 1:59 PM, Harry Classon wrote:
> > måndag 28 augusti 2023 kl. 00:39:19 UTC+2 skrev Stephen W:
>
> >> I'm holding out for Starfield
> > lmao this thread is over 20 years old people still writing lmaooo
> and why shouldn't they?

Because Daggerfall is non-existent. All you're going to do is make people wish they could play it, and wishes are unholy.

Julian <j63840576@gmail.com> wrote in
news:5b75d6d5-c95c-4307-b9c2-904bc2fc0f86n@googlegroups.com:

> On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 5:41:26 PM UTC-6, Kyonshi wrote:
>> On 9/3/2023 1:59 PM, Harry Classon wrote:
>> > måndag 28 augusti 2023 kl. 00:39:19 UTC+2 skrev Stephen W:
>>
>> >> I'm holding out for Starfield
>> > lmao this thread is over 20 years old people still writing lmaooo
>> and why shouldn't they?
>
> Because Daggerfall is non-existent. All you're going to do is make
> people wish they could play it, and wishes are unholy.
>

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Files

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On Mon, 29 Jan 2024 16:35:25 -0000 (UTC), "Mark P. Nelson"
<markpnelson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>Julian <j63840576@gmail.com> wrote in
>news:5b75d6d5-c95c-4307-b9c2-904bc2fc0f86n@googlegroups.com:
>> On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 5:41:26 PM UTC-6, Kyonshi wrote:
>>> On 9/3/2023 1:59 PM, Harry Classon wrote:
>>> > måndag 28 augusti 2023 kl. 00:39:19 UTC+2 skrev Stephen W:

>>> > lmao this thread is over 20 years old people still writing lmaooo
>>> and why shouldn't they?

>> Because Daggerfall is non-existent. All you're going to do is make
>> people wish they could play it, and wishes are unholy.

>https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Files

I dunno how Daggerfall is 'non-existent'. It still exists, and is
still playable.

Even if you don't have your original CD (or was it floppy disks? I
can't remember offhand), you still have plenty of options:

There's the original, still for sale.
https://www.gog.com/en/game/the_elder_scrolls_chapter_ii_daggerfall
There's the Unity-engine remake
https://www.gog.com/en/game/daggerfall_unity_gog_cut
There's "Daggerblivion", a mod for Elder Scrolls Oblivion
https://forums.nexusmods.com/topic/11549503-daggerblivion-development/
And let's not forget the massive "Beyond Skyrim" which has the "Illiac
Bay" mod in development
https://beyondskyrim.org/iliac-bay

In short, there's lot of Daggerfall still to play, and will be more in
the future.

That said, I think there are a lot of better games to play than
"Daggerfall", regardless of which version you choose. Its procedural
world was just too large and lacked character; a clear case of
Bethesda choosing quantity over quality. Fortunately, they learned
their lesson in later games (and then promptly forgot it again with
"Starfield" ;-)

But if you want to play Daggerfall, there are a lot of options
available to you these days, so have at it.

On 1/31/2024 3:15 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Jan 2024 16:35:25 -0000 (UTC), "Mark P. Nelson"
> <markpnelson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> Julian <j63840576@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:5b75d6d5-c95c-4307-b9c2-904bc2fc0f86n@googlegroups.com:
>>> On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 5:41:26 PM UTC-6, Kyonshi wrote:
>>>> On 9/3/2023 1:59 PM, Harry Classon wrote:
>>>>> måndag 28 augusti 2023 kl. 00:39:19 UTC+2 skrev Stephen W:
>
>
>>>>> lmao this thread is over 20 years old people still writing lmaooo
>>>> and why shouldn't they?
>
>>> Because Daggerfall is non-existent. All you're going to do is make
>>> people wish they could play it, and wishes are unholy.
>
>> https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Files
>
> I dunno how Daggerfall is 'non-existent'. It still exists, and is
> still playable.
>
> Even if you don't have your original CD (or was it floppy disks? I
> can't remember offhand), you still have plenty of options:
>
> There's the original, still for sale.
> https://www.gog.com/en/game/the_elder_scrolls_chapter_ii_daggerfall
> There's the Unity-engine remake
> https://www.gog.com/en/game/daggerfall_unity_gog_cut
> There's "Daggerblivion", a mod for Elder Scrolls Oblivion
> https://forums.nexusmods.com/topic/11549503-daggerblivion-development/
> And let's not forget the massive "Beyond Skyrim" which has the "Illiac
> Bay" mod in development
> https://beyondskyrim.org/iliac-bay
>
> In short, there's lot of Daggerfall still to play, and will be more in
> the future.
>
> That said, I think there are a lot of better games to play than
> "Daggerfall", regardless of which version you choose. Its procedural
> world was just too large and lacked character; a clear case of
> Bethesda choosing quantity over quality. Fortunately, they learned
> their lesson in later games (and then promptly forgot it again with
> "Starfield" ;-)
>
> But if you want to play Daggerfall, there are a lot of options
> available to you these days, so have at it.
>
>
>

I think technically Daggerfall and the Elder Scrolls had a bit more
staying power than Diablo. I mean Diablo was massive at the time and
certainly had it's influence, but I just don't see many people still
playing it the same way that people are totally into Skyrim after over
ten years. I mean, Diablo 3 came out in 2012 and Skyrim in 2011, but I
see lots of people still deeply invested into Skyrim, and no mentions of
Diablo III at all. Not even Diablo IV. But maybe I am just not looking
at the right places.

Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the
entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
say:

>On Mon, 29 Jan 2024 16:35:25 -0000 (UTC), "Mark P. Nelson"
><markpnelson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>Julian <j63840576@gmail.com> wrote in
>>news:5b75d6d5-c95c-4307-b9c2-904bc2fc0f86n@googlegroups.com:
>>> On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 5:41:26 PM UTC-6, Kyonshi wrote:
>>>> On 9/3/2023 1:59 PM, Harry Classon wrote:
>>>> > måndag 28 augusti 2023 kl. 00:39:19 UTC+2 skrev Stephen W:
>
>
>>>> > lmao this thread is over 20 years old people still writing lmaooo
>>>> and why shouldn't they?
>
>>> Because Daggerfall is non-existent. All you're going to do is make
>>> people wish they could play it, and wishes are unholy.
>
>>https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Files
>
>I dunno how Daggerfall is 'non-existent'. It still exists, and is
>still playable.
>
>Even if you don't have your original CD (or was it floppy disks? I
>can't remember offhand), you still have plenty of options:

It was cd. And I still have my boxed Daggerfall, complete with all my
notes about soul bonuses and negatives, vampire clans etc.

>There's the original, still for sale.
>https://www.gog.com/en/game/the_elder_scrolls_chapter_ii_daggerfall
>There's the Unity-engine remake
>https://www.gog.com/en/game/daggerfall_unity_gog_cut
>There's "Daggerblivion", a mod for Elder Scrolls Oblivion
>https://forums.nexusmods.com/topic/11549503-daggerblivion-development/
>And let's not forget the massive "Beyond Skyrim" which has the "Illiac
>Bay" mod in development
>https://beyondskyrim.org/iliac-bay
>
>In short, there's lot of Daggerfall still to play, and will be more in
>the future.

It's on Steam too.

>That said, I think there are a lot of better games to play than
>"Daggerfall", regardless of which version you choose. Its procedural
>world was just too large and lacked character; a clear case of
>Bethesda choosing quantity over quality. Fortunately, they learned
>their lesson in later games (and then promptly forgot it again with
>"Starfield" ;-)
>
>But if you want to play Daggerfall, there are a lot of options
>available to you these days, so have at it.

Oh to have Daggerfall in a modern engine like the one used for Black
Desert Online.

Xocyll

Diablofall!

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