It's called "Star Wars:Outcast". Here's a trailer if you missed the
announcement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP_wXv2ErgI

Okay, so this bit isn't as newsworthy as the new Doom game. New Star
Wars games are a dime a dozen. I've over thirty of them on PC alone
(and that's not including duplicates). So announcing a new Star Wars
game is sort of like telling people that the sun is rising in the
morning. It's more unusual when there's NOT one being developed.

Still, I've got to show interest. I'm a Star Wars fan and we must
blindly consume Star Wars media of any and all sorts. A new Star Wars
video game? Sure, I'll show interest.

Except... it's /really/ hard this time. Because it's not just a game
being developed by Ubisoft, it's a Ubisoft Game. You know the sort of
thing I mean; big open world, hollow storytelling, adequate gameplay,
and lots of grind. Even in the trailer, where they've gussied it up as
much as they can, you can FEEL the Ubi-stench on the game. That utter
lack of originality and vive. The refusal to take risks. For fuck
sakes, they're even going back to Tatooine, the ass-end of the Star
Wars universe where every hack writer sends their heroes.

Sure, it's got the LOOK of the movies. You can never say that a
Ubisoft game lacks in the visuals. The robots look like robots from
Star Wars. The space ships look like space ships from Star Wars. The
vest-wearing space-pirates look vest-wearing space-pirates from Star
Wars. Ubisoft is great at emulating a look.

And -while the trailer is pretty light in showing off that department-
I'm sure the minute-to-minute gameplay will be fine too. Not great.
But fine. It'll be enough to keep you playing for hours, because
Ubisoft has perfectly captured the formula of making you think that
/if you only play *just* a little bit longer/ you'll finally come to
the really awesome part of the game. They'll drip feed you /just
enough/ dopamine to make you not realize the tediousness of the
experience. It's only when you finally get to the end of the game that
you wonder why you played so long.

So I watch that trailer and there's part of my brain that goes, "Oooh,
Star Wars" and "Yeah, let me be a scoundrel rogue "Starfield"-ing my
way through a galaxy far-far-away!" It's a dream come true for anyone
who ever wished they could be like Han Solo! But even with all that, I
still see everything I hate about Ubisoft games leaking out of the
video, and my brain revolts at the idea of having to play another one
of their titles.

Why did it have to be Ubisoft?

On 6/15/2024 7:16 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>
> It's called "Star Wars:Outcast". Here's a trailer if you missed the
> announcement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP_wXv2ErgI
>
> Okay, so this bit isn't as newsworthy as the new Doom game. New Star
> Wars games are a dime a dozen. I've over thirty of them on PC alone
> (and that's not including duplicates). So announcing a new Star Wars
> game is sort of like telling people that the sun is rising in the
> morning. It's more unusual when there's NOT one being developed.
>
> Still, I've got to show interest. I'm a Star Wars fan and we must
> blindly consume Star Wars media of any and all sorts. A new Star Wars
> video game? Sure, I'll show interest.
>
> Except... it's /really/ hard this time. Because it's not just a game
> being developed by Ubisoft, it's a Ubisoft Game. You know the sort of
> thing I mean; big open world, hollow storytelling, adequate gameplay,
> and lots of grind. Even in the trailer, where they've gussied it up as
> much as they can, you can FEEL the Ubi-stench on the game. That utter
> lack of originality and vive. The refusal to take risks. For fuck
> sakes, they're even going back to Tatooine, the ass-end of the Star
> Wars universe where every hack writer sends their heroes.
>
> Sure, it's got the LOOK of the movies. You can never say that a
> Ubisoft game lacks in the visuals. The robots look like robots from
> Star Wars. The space ships look like space ships from Star Wars. The
> vest-wearing space-pirates look vest-wearing space-pirates from Star
> Wars. Ubisoft is great at emulating a look.
>
> And -while the trailer is pretty light in showing off that department-
> I'm sure the minute-to-minute gameplay will be fine too. Not great.
> But fine. It'll be enough to keep you playing for hours, because
> Ubisoft has perfectly captured the formula of making you think that
> /if you only play *just* a little bit longer/ you'll finally come to
> the really awesome part of the game. They'll drip feed you /just
> enough/ dopamine to make you not realize the tediousness of the
> experience. It's only when you finally get to the end of the game that
> you wonder why you played so long.
>
> So I watch that trailer and there's part of my brain that goes, "Oooh,
> Star Wars" and "Yeah, let me be a scoundrel rogue "Starfield"-ing my
> way through a galaxy far-far-away!" It's a dream come true for anyone
> who ever wished they could be like Han Solo! But even with all that, I
> still see everything I hate about Ubisoft games leaking out of the
> video, and my brain revolts at the idea of having to play another one
> of their titles.
>
> Why did it have to be Ubisoft?
>
>
>
>

well. why do EA keep making Star Wars games?
Because they can afford it and it makes them money.
Star Wars always has been a whore for tie-ins.

On 6/15/2024 10:16 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>
> It's called "Star Wars:Outcast". Here's a trailer if you missed the
> announcement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP_wXv2ErgI
>
> Okay, so this bit isn't as newsworthy as the new Doom game. New Star
> Wars games are a dime a dozen. I've over thirty of them on PC alone
> (and that's not including duplicates). So announcing a new Star Wars
> game is sort of like telling people that the sun is rising in the
> morning. It's more unusual when there's NOT one being developed.
>
> Still, I've got to show interest. I'm a Star Wars fan and we must
> blindly consume Star Wars media of any and all sorts. A new Star Wars
> video game? Sure, I'll show interest.
>
> Except... it's /really/ hard this time. Because it's not just a game
> being developed by Ubisoft, it's a Ubisoft Game. You know the sort of
> thing I mean; big open world, hollow storytelling, adequate gameplay,
> and lots of grind. Even in the trailer, where they've gussied it up as
> much as they can, you can FEEL the Ubi-stench on the game. That utter
> lack of originality and vive. The refusal to take risks. For fuck
> sakes, they're even going back to Tatooine, the ass-end of the Star
> Wars universe where every hack writer sends their heroes.
>
> Sure, it's got the LOOK of the movies. You can never say that a
> Ubisoft game lacks in the visuals. The robots look like robots from
> Star Wars. The space ships look like space ships from Star Wars. The
> vest-wearing space-pirates look vest-wearing space-pirates from Star
> Wars. Ubisoft is great at emulating a look.
>
> And -while the trailer is pretty light in showing off that department-
> I'm sure the minute-to-minute gameplay will be fine too. Not great.
> But fine. It'll be enough to keep you playing for hours, because
> Ubisoft has perfectly captured the formula of making you think that
> /if you only play *just* a little bit longer/ you'll finally come to
> the really awesome part of the game. They'll drip feed you /just
> enough/ dopamine to make you not realize the tediousness of the
> experience. It's only when you finally get to the end of the game that
> you wonder why you played so long.
>
> So I watch that trailer and there's part of my brain that goes, "Oooh,
> Star Wars" and "Yeah, let me be a scoundrel rogue "Starfield"-ing my
> way through a galaxy far-far-away!" It's a dream come true for anyone
> who ever wished they could be like Han Solo! But even with all that, I
> still see everything I hate about Ubisoft games leaking out of the
> video, and my brain revolts at the idea of having to play another one
> of their titles.
>
> Why did it have to be Ubisoft?

Did they run out of historical times to pillage? Off to pillage sci-fi
now (yes I know it's a long time ago, but space-fantasy.)

I think I'd rather go back to playing SW Galaxies. I hear it's less
grindy/paywalled now.

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On Mon, 17 Jun 2024 08:21:44 -0700, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On 6/15/2024 10:16 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>>
>> It's called "Star Wars:Outcast". Here's a trailer if you missed the
>> announcement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP_wXv2ErgI
>>
>> Okay, so this bit isn't as newsworthy as the new Doom game. New Star
>> Wars games are a dime a dozen. I've over thirty of them on PC alone
>> (and that's not including duplicates). So announcing a new Star Wars
>> game is sort of like telling people that the sun is rising in the
>> morning. It's more unusual when there's NOT one being developed.
>>
>> Still, I've got to show interest. I'm a Star Wars fan and we must
>> blindly consume Star Wars media of any and all sorts. A new Star Wars
>> video game? Sure, I'll show interest.
>>
>> Except... it's /really/ hard this time. Because it's not just a game
>> being developed by Ubisoft, it's a Ubisoft Game. You know the sort of
>> thing I mean; big open world, hollow storytelling, adequate gameplay,
>> and lots of grind. Even in the trailer, where they've gussied it up as
>> much as they can, you can FEEL the Ubi-stench on the game. That utter
>> lack of originality and vive. The refusal to take risks. For fuck
>> sakes, they're even going back to Tatooine, the ass-end of the Star
>> Wars universe where every hack writer sends their heroes.
>>
>> Sure, it's got the LOOK of the movies. You can never say that a
>> Ubisoft game lacks in the visuals. The robots look like robots from
>> Star Wars. The space ships look like space ships from Star Wars. The
>> vest-wearing space-pirates look vest-wearing space-pirates from Star
>> Wars. Ubisoft is great at emulating a look.
>>
>> And -while the trailer is pretty light in showing off that department-
>> I'm sure the minute-to-minute gameplay will be fine too. Not great.
>> But fine. It'll be enough to keep you playing for hours, because
>> Ubisoft has perfectly captured the formula of making you think that
>> /if you only play *just* a little bit longer/ you'll finally come to
>> the really awesome part of the game. They'll drip feed you /just
>> enough/ dopamine to make you not realize the tediousness of the
>> experience. It's only when you finally get to the end of the game that
>> you wonder why you played so long.
>>
>> So I watch that trailer and there's part of my brain that goes, "Oooh,
>> Star Wars" and "Yeah, let me be a scoundrel rogue "Starfield"-ing my
>> way through a galaxy far-far-away!" It's a dream come true for anyone
>> who ever wished they could be like Han Solo! But even with all that, I
>> still see everything I hate about Ubisoft games leaking out of the
>> video, and my brain revolts at the idea of having to play another one
>> of their titles.
>>
>> Why did it have to be Ubisoft?
>
>Did they run out of historical times to pillage? Off to pillage sci-fi
>now (yes I know it's a long time ago, but space-fantasy.)
>
>I think I'd rather go back to playing SW Galaxies. I hear it's less
>grindy/paywalled now.

I'm not sure I could go back to Galaxy. It's just too old, both
visually and in terms of game-play. I know there are people who love
that style -and there is something appealing about the freedom some of
the original mechanics offered- but I was never really a fan.

I found "Star Wars: Old Republic" more appealing, because it had a
much stronger narrative and was bearable as a single-player
experience.

Or just play the old "Dark Forces" games. Or the "X-wing" franchise.
Or the "Jedi: Survivor" series. Or even "Force Unleashed". There's no
lack of Star Wars titles to play, and -even though many of them were
flawed- all of them look more exciting to me than what I've seen of
"Outcast".

On 6/17/2024 5:58 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Jun 2024 08:21:44 -0700, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 6/15/2024 10:16 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>>>
>>> It's called "Star Wars:Outcast". Here's a trailer if you missed the
>>> announcement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP_wXv2ErgI
>>>
>>> Okay, so this bit isn't as newsworthy as the new Doom game. New Star
>>> Wars games are a dime a dozen. I've over thirty of them on PC alone
>>> (and that's not including duplicates). So announcing a new Star Wars
>>> game is sort of like telling people that the sun is rising in the
>>> morning. It's more unusual when there's NOT one being developed.
>>>
>>> Still, I've got to show interest. I'm a Star Wars fan and we must
>>> blindly consume Star Wars media of any and all sorts. A new Star Wars
>>> video game? Sure, I'll show interest.
>>>
>>> Except... it's /really/ hard this time. Because it's not just a game
>>> being developed by Ubisoft, it's a Ubisoft Game. You know the sort of
>>> thing I mean; big open world, hollow storytelling, adequate gameplay,
>>> and lots of grind. Even in the trailer, where they've gussied it up as
>>> much as they can, you can FEEL the Ubi-stench on the game. That utter
>>> lack of originality and vive. The refusal to take risks. For fuck
>>> sakes, they're even going back to Tatooine, the ass-end of the Star
>>> Wars universe where every hack writer sends their heroes.
>>>
>>> Sure, it's got the LOOK of the movies. You can never say that a
>>> Ubisoft game lacks in the visuals. The robots look like robots from
>>> Star Wars. The space ships look like space ships from Star Wars. The
>>> vest-wearing space-pirates look vest-wearing space-pirates from Star
>>> Wars. Ubisoft is great at emulating a look.
>>>
>>> And -while the trailer is pretty light in showing off that department-
>>> I'm sure the minute-to-minute gameplay will be fine too. Not great.
>>> But fine. It'll be enough to keep you playing for hours, because
>>> Ubisoft has perfectly captured the formula of making you think that
>>> /if you only play *just* a little bit longer/ you'll finally come to
>>> the really awesome part of the game. They'll drip feed you /just
>>> enough/ dopamine to make you not realize the tediousness of the
>>> experience. It's only when you finally get to the end of the game that
>>> you wonder why you played so long.
>>>
>>> So I watch that trailer and there's part of my brain that goes, "Oooh,
>>> Star Wars" and "Yeah, let me be a scoundrel rogue "Starfield"-ing my
>>> way through a galaxy far-far-away!" It's a dream come true for anyone
>>> who ever wished they could be like Han Solo! But even with all that, I
>>> still see everything I hate about Ubisoft games leaking out of the
>>> video, and my brain revolts at the idea of having to play another one
>>> of their titles.
>>>
>>> Why did it have to be Ubisoft?
>>
>> Did they run out of historical times to pillage? Off to pillage sci-fi
>> now (yes I know it's a long time ago, but space-fantasy.)
>>
>> I think I'd rather go back to playing SW Galaxies. I hear it's less
>> grindy/paywalled now.
>
>
> I'm not sure I could go back to Galaxy. It's just too old, both
> visually and in terms of game-play. I know there are people who love
> that style -and there is something appealing about the freedom some of
> the original mechanics offered- but I was never really a fan.
>
> I found "Star Wars: Old Republic" more appealing, because it had a
> much stronger narrative and was bearable as a single-player
> experience.
>
> Or just play the old "Dark Forces" games. Or the "X-wing" franchise.
> Or the "Jedi: Survivor" series. Or even "Force Unleashed". There's no
> lack of Star Wars titles to play, and -even though many of them were
> flawed- all of them look more exciting to me than what I've seen of
> "Outcast".
>

Doh, I was thinking of TOR, not Galaxies (not Galaxy). *Sigh* The olds
are getting me.

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Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> writes:

> Why did it have to be Ubisoft?

Well, maybe one can play a Ubisoft game once in a decade or two? I'm not
sure I have yet, this decade or the last... Although I think I have some
freebie Assassin's Whatsit on Epic.

I can't say I was very impressed by the SW:Outcast video. Really light
on physics, our hero just climbs up some cable with just the power of
her arms. That lady has a nice grip. No rocket backpack, no high tech
winch, nothing. Can't free climb with those arms either. Sigh. Although
apparently your bike comes if you call, like horses in old
westerns. Cute.

And a sneak mission where it's apparently OK to shoot everything in
sight but you get a reputation loss. I'd hope for no reputation loss if
you kill all witnesses like Hitman games but still, this is OK if not
great.

Anyways, it's Star Wars so a likely buy. But then I thought similarly
about Starfield too and now it's "I'll get it in a sale" or rather "if
it ever goes on sale".

On 6/19/2024 2:10 AM, Anssi Saari wrote:
> Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Why did it have to be Ubisoft?
>
> Well, maybe one can play a Ubisoft game once in a decade or two? I'm not
> sure I have yet, this decade or the last... Although I think I have some
> freebie Assassin's Whatsit on Epic.
>
> I can't say I was very impressed by the SW:Outcast video. Really light
> on physics, our hero just climbs up some cable with just the power of
> her arms. That lady has a nice grip. No rocket backpack, no high tech
> winch, nothing. Can't free climb with those arms either. Sigh. Although
> apparently your bike comes if you call, like horses in old
> westerns. Cute.
>
> And a sneak mission where it's apparently OK to shoot everything in
> sight but you get a reputation loss. I'd hope for no reputation loss if
> you kill all witnesses like Hitman games but still, this is OK if not
> great.
>
> Anyways, it's Star Wars so a likely buy. But then I thought similarly
> about Starfield too and now it's "I'll get it in a sale" or rather "if
> it ever goes on sale".

Pretty sure 'Starfield' has been on sale recently. So I suspect your
last sentence should be more "if it ever goes on sale cheaply enough". :)

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Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> writes:

> Pretty sure 'Starfield' has been on sale recently. So I suspect your
> last sentence should be more "if it ever goes on sale cheaply enough".
> :)

Yes, of course. Kinda goes without saying, or so I thought.

On 6/20/2024 12:37 AM, Anssi Saari wrote:
> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> writes:
>
>> Pretty sure 'Starfield' has been on sale recently. So I suspect your
>> last sentence should be more "if it ever goes on sale cheaply enough".
>> :)
>
> Yes, of course. Kinda goes without saying, or so I thought.

Saying what goes without saying is a big part of being a Genius Glutous
Maximus. ;)

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On 15/06/2024 18:16, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
> Except... it's/really/ hard this time. Because it's not just a game
> being developed by Ubisoft, it's a Ubisoft Game. You know the sort of
> thing I mean; big open world, hollow storytelling, adequate gameplay,
> and lots of grind. Even in the trailer, where they've gussied it up as
> much as they can, you can FEEL the Ubi-stench on the game. That utter
> lack of originality and vive. The refusal to take risks. For fuck
> sakes, they're even going back to Tatooine, the ass-end of the Star
> Wars universe where every hack writer sends their heroes.

It's one of the big problems I have with them, not only do they keep
recycling the same IP's they also share share a similar gameplay across
a number of those IP's.

It kinda reminds me of MacDonalds, you know it won't be good but you do
know what your getting. The difference is that a Big Mac doesn't cost £70.

JAB <noway@nochance.com> wrote at 05:59 this Saturday (GMT):
> On 15/06/2024 18:16, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>> Except... it's/really/ hard this time. Because it's not just a game
>> being developed by Ubisoft, it's a Ubisoft Game. You know the sort of
>> thing I mean; big open world, hollow storytelling, adequate gameplay,
>> and lots of grind. Even in the trailer, where they've gussied it up as
>> much as they can, you can FEEL the Ubi-stench on the game. That utter
>> lack of originality and vive. The refusal to take risks. For fuck
>> sakes, they're even going back to Tatooine, the ass-end of the Star
>> Wars universe where every hack writer sends their heroes.
>
> It's one of the big problems I have with them, not only do they keep
> recycling the same IP's they also share share a similar gameplay across
> a number of those IP's.

Yeah..

> It kinda reminds me of MacDonalds, you know it won't be good but you do
> know what your getting. The difference is that a Big Mac doesn't cost £70.

....yet
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