On 5/28/24 22:35, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
> So describe your mouse? Do you let your hand wallow in luxury with the
> highest-end pointing device available, or tempt carpal tunnel with
> something that only vaguely resembles a mouse? The compilers of CRAP
> poll data need a response!
>
>
>

3. It's a Nordic Gaming Mouse, usual number of buttons for a non-bottom
of the line mouse, plus an extra one for swapping DPI modes. And I back
that is a sort of mesh to keep the palm less sweaty in the summer months.
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On 5/29/24 23:40, candycanearter07 wrote:
> Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote at 15:08 this Wednesday (GMT):
>> On 5/28/2024 1:35 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>>>
>>> I've been late with this month's Completely Random And Pointless Poll.
>>> So I won't take too long on the intro for this one. This time, let's
>>> focus on your mouse. You know, that wiggly lil' plastic gadget beneath
>>> your hand. Let's describe it!
>>>
>>> Please answer the following question. My mouse is:
>>>
>>
>> As an additional question, wired or wireless?
>>
>> I have an aversion to wireless as you have to have batteries which
>> increase the weight, and the inconvenience of the mouse working
>> intermittently when they get low until you replace them. Or having a
>> rechargeable mouse where it doesn't work until it's charged a bit
>> possibly, and having the recharging port wear out. It's been a long
>> time since I used a wireless mouse.
>
> Yeah, it is annoying. However, on the go it is nice to not deal with a
> cable. For home/workstation setups, it is objectively worse IMO.

Agreed, currently using a wired on my workstation. On the laptop I just
use the trackpad, but then the only game I play on a laptop is Dwarf
Fortress, and then I go KB only. There are those newer cordless mouses*
that charge via NFC or something like it via a pad, so I MIGHT look into
that next time I need a new one.

*I understand the correct pluralisation of mouse for computers is
'mouses' rather than mice, as that only applies to the animal. Not sure
anyone cares about that though :D

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On Wed, 29 May 2024 23:10:42 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

>candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
>> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 18:53 this Wednesday (GMT):
>> > #4 -- Optical simple mouses (2 buttons + 1 scrollwheel) with PS/2 and
>> > #USB connections. PS/2 because I still use my OmnniCube KVM from Y2K!
>
>> What's an omnicube?
>
>https://www.amazon.com/Belkin-Omnicube-Kybrd-Mouse-Switch/dp/B00004Z7Y7
>
>KVM = Keyboard, Video, and Mouse. Yes, it's old and I still use old stuff.

I have an OmniView KVM switcher. I used it right up to when I started
using DosBox. At that point, I no longer needed the DOS computer or
the KVM switcher.

I like yours better as it is more compact.

On Wed, 29 May 2024 21:39:13 -0400, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:

>Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the
>entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
>say:
>
>>On Wed, 29 May 2024 03:50:49 -0400, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Frankly mousepad is if anything more important.
>>
>>Shhhh! Don't give away next week's CRAP Poll! ;-)
>
>Oops. :)
>
>>Maybe it's just me -or the average mice I use- but I've never really
>>seen/felt much advantage from mouse pads. Or rather, not from a mouse
>>pad over an average surface (there are times when a mouse pad is
>>absolutely necessary because the table you're on is just so shitty
>>that the mouse can't pick up anything, but in that case a piece of
>>paper would work just as well).
>
>The 3M Precise Mousing Surface was a godsend back in the ball mice days,
>it was designed as a sheet of peaks and valleys, the ball rolled on the
>peaks and the cruft that always ended up on the pad (dust, skin cells,
>whatever,) fell into the valleys.

Oh, well, back in the era of mechanical mice, things were different.
;-)

Mousepads were significantly more necessary in that era. You needed a
good grip for that ball, and most desk surfaces were insufficient to
the task. EVERYBODY had a mouse-pad back in those dark days. Using a
mouse without one was often a painful experience. You'd want a nice
padded surface, with just enough grip to make the mouse-ball roll but
not enough to make moving the mouse an effort. The pad would also need
to 'stick' to the table below, so it didn't shift as you shuttled the
mouse too and fro. Finding a good mouse-pad back then was one of the
great pleasures of computing. ;-)

I just don't see the need these days, unless your mousing surface is
particularly poor (e.g., very reflective or smooth), or you're doing
something that needs absolute precision (like an FPS e-gamer).
Otherwise, the optics on the average mouse are more than up to the
task of just using it on the desk.

What gets me is that nowadays -with mousepads becoming increasingly
irrelevant- they're FINALLY making mouse-pads bigger than the usual
20cm x 20cm squares. What I'd have given for a large mouse-pad back in
the day (in fact, back then I used a green cutting mat (45x60cm) just
because it gave me so much space to wrangle the rodent. Now you can
get proper mousepads that size fairly easily. Where was this
innovation back in the 90s? ;-P

>>My current 'mousepad' is a 50-year old hand-made cutting board (you

>That sounds a lot thicker than I would like to use

Mostly I use it because the surface on which I place my mouse (an
end-table sitting next to my chair) is a few centimetres lower than
I'd like. The cutting board provides /just/ the right elevation.

The fact that it's a family artifact (and the surface works well as a
mousing surface) is just bonus ;-)

On Wed, 29 May 2024 08:08:07 -0700, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On 5/28/2024 1:35 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>>
>> I've been late with this month's Completely Random And Pointless Poll.
>> So I won't take too long on the intro for this one. This time, let's
>> focus on your mouse. You know, that wiggly lil' plastic gadget beneath
>> your hand. Let's describe it!
>>
>> Please answer the following question. My mouse is:
>>
>
>As an additional question, wired or wireless?

It is a very important question, but I couldn't think of a way to add
it into the offered options without making things too wordy (and you
know how important it is to me to keep my comments brief and to the
point ;-)

>I have an aversion to wireless as you have to have batteries which
>increase the weight, and the inconvenience of the mouse working
>intermittently when they get low until you replace them. Or having a
>rechargeable mouse where it doesn't work until it's charged a bit
>possibly, and having the recharging port wear out. It's been a long
>time since I used a wireless mouse.

I use a wireless mouse and the battery swaps aren't that much of an
issue; it happens maybe twice a year? And until that point, my mouse
works flawlessly; it's not as if performance degrades as the batteries
get low. It's "today it's working, tomorrow it just doesn't, so time
to swap the batteries!"

Having said that, I completely understand why people prefer a wired
mouse; it's 'always on'. My mouse (a Logitech M-something, the label
has worn away ;-) seems to go into a 'power saving mode' if it isn't
in constant use, and sometimes takes a half-second to come back alive
before the cursor starts moving. It doesn't drop down to power-saving
mode that quickly but it's noticable when it happens. You need to give
the mouse that extra little jerk to tell it, 'hey! start moving!'.
During desktop use, it's not so much an issue (and, in fact, rarely
happens because I'm usually using it enough that it stays awake, but
there are some games where I don't touch the mouse for fifteen or
twenty minutes, and when I DO need the mouse, immediate response is
appreciated... and this mouse doesn't do that.

Still, it's just too comfortable for me to give up. And I really don't
want to wrangle with wires more than I have to. So I deal with it and
grumble incessently about a problem I know I could easily solve ;-)

On 5/29/2024 2:45 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
> rms <rsquiresMOO@MOOflashMOO.net> wrote at 13:12 this Wednesday (GMT):
>>>> CoolerMaster MM520, with a MM720 waiting. These are successors to,
>>>> with
>>>> better sensors but inferior ergonomics, to the classic fingertip mouse
>>>> Spawn
>>>> https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/legacy-products/peripheral/spawn/#!
>>>
>>> Wow, that is fancy.
>>
>> Few buttons, but wide & stubby, like my women!
>>
>> rms
>
>
> Not gonna question that
Not gonna even think about that. (Which is exactly what he wants.)

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On 5/29/2024 2:40 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
> Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote at 14:08 this Wednesday (GMT):
>> On Wed, 29 May 2024 03:50:49 -0400, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Frankly mousepad is if anything more important.
>>
>> Shhhh! Don't give away next week's CRAP Poll! ;-)
>>
>>
>> Maybe it's just me -or the average mice I use- but I've never really
>> seen/felt much advantage from mouse pads. Or rather, not from a mouse
>> pad over an average surface (there are times when a mouse pad is
>> absolutely necessary because the table you're on is just so shitty
>> that the mouse can't pick up anything, but in that case a piece of
>> paper would work just as well).
>>
>> My current 'mousepad' is a 50-year old hand-made cutting board (you
>> know, for slicing veggies and whatnot) I inherited from a relative.
>> Since I already had a very nice cutting board in the kitchen, I had to
>> find some use for this battered piece of wood (it's been in the family
>> so long, and has hand-written notes on it from my uncle, who made the
>> thing). Turns out, it's /just/ the right size to be used as a mousing
>> surface. And I'm sure all those scrapes and knife-cuts make it a lot
>> easier for the mouse to 'see' where it's going. ;-P
>
>
> I have a skyrim themed one my brother gave me.. It's a full-desk one.

You mean your brother gave you a Skyrim themed desk.

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On 5/30/2024 7:26 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>
> What gets me is that nowadays -with mousepads becoming increasingly
> irrelevant- they're FINALLY making mouse-pads bigger than the usual
> 20cm x 20cm squares. What I'd have given for a large mouse-pad back in
> the day (in fact, back then I used a green cutting mat (45x60cm) just
> because it gave me so much space to wrangle the rodent. Now you can
> get proper mousepads that size fairly easily. Where was this
> innovation back in the 90s? ;-P
>
THIS is why I've never used mouse pads. Set the mouse so you don't have
to pick up the mouse and move it back so you can continue moving the
cursor in the same direction and it isn't precise enough to actually
place the cursor ON a virtual button or point. Set it so you can
actually "press" on the required spot and you are doing a 3D loop with
your wrist the move the cursor TO that spot. And that was with a single
monitor!

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On 5/29/2024 2:40 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 18:53 this Wednesday (GMT):
>> #4 -- Optical simple mouses (2 buttons + 1 scrollwheel) with PS/2 and
>> #USB connections. PS/2 because I still use my OmnniCube KVM from Y2K!
>>
>
> What's an omnicube?

A bigger, more powerful Borg Cube.

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<snip>
>If you have more money than sense you could always get one of these full
>sized LED one for several hundred pounds. Who on earth buys this stuff?

The gaming equivalent of the audiophule who buys molecularly aligned
solid gold speaker cables.

Xocyll

Steven Thomsen-Jones <pika.banyan7805@eagereverest.com> looked up from
reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good,
the signs say:

<snip>
>*I understand the correct pluralisation of mouse for computers is
>'mouses' rather than mice, as that only applies to the animal. Not sure
>anyone cares about that though :D

Next up, someone will insist it's really Mousii.

Xocyll

Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 29 May 2024 23:10:42 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

> >candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
> >> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 18:53 this Wednesday (GMT):
> >> > #4 -- Optical simple mouses (2 buttons + 1 scrollwheel) with PS/2 and
> >> > #USB connections. PS/2 because I still use my OmnniCube KVM from Y2K!
> >
> >> What's an omnicube?
> >
> >https://www.amazon.com/Belkin-Omnicube-Kybrd-Mouse-Switch/dp/B00004Z7Y7
> >
> >KVM = Keyboard, Video, and Mouse. Yes, it's old and I still use old stuff.

> I have an OmniView KVM switcher. I used it right up to when I started
> using DosBox. At that point, I no longer needed the DOS computer or
> the KVM switcher.

> I like yours better as it is more compact.

Yeah, small is good if you have two PCs. :) I am surprised it still
works too! I noticed the newer ones with HDMI, USB, etc. cost more
though. :(

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> On 5/29/2024 2:40 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
> > Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 18:53 this Wednesday (GMT):
> >> #4 -- Optical simple mouses (2 buttons + 1 scrollwheel) with PS/2 and
> >> #USB connections. PS/2 because I still use my OmnniCube KVM from Y2K!
> >
> > What's an omnicube?

> A bigger, more powerful Borg Cube.

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Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 19:30 this Thursday (GMT):
> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>> On 5/29/2024 2:40 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
>> > Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 18:53 this Wednesday (GMT):
>> >> #4 -- Optical simple mouses (2 buttons + 1 scrollwheel) with PS/2 and
>> >> #USB connections. PS/2 because I still use my OmnniCube KVM from Y2K!
>> >
>> > What's an omnicube?
>
>> A bigger, more powerful Borg Cube.
>
> http://zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/about/pictures/BorgAnt.jpg -- We are ANTZ. We will assimilate you. Resistance is futile." ;)

woah spoopy
but do you have asimovs laws
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Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 23:10 this Wednesday (GMT):
> candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
>> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 18:53 this Wednesday (GMT):
>> > #4 -- Optical simple mouses (2 buttons + 1 scrollwheel) with PS/2 and
>> > #USB connections. PS/2 because I still use my OmnniCube KVM from Y2K!
>
>> What's an omnicube?
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Belkin-Omnicube-Kybrd-Mouse-Switch/dp/B00004Z7Y7
>
> KVM = Keyboard, Video, and Mouse. Yes, it's old and I still use old stuff.

Nifty, I've not really seen one before.
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Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 15:02 this Thursday (GMT):
> On 5/29/2024 2:40 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
>> Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote at 14:08 this Wednesday (GMT):
>>> On Wed, 29 May 2024 03:50:49 -0400, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Frankly mousepad is if anything more important.
>>>
>>> Shhhh! Don't give away next week's CRAP Poll! ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>> Maybe it's just me -or the average mice I use- but I've never really
>>> seen/felt much advantage from mouse pads. Or rather, not from a mouse
>>> pad over an average surface (there are times when a mouse pad is
>>> absolutely necessary because the table you're on is just so shitty
>>> that the mouse can't pick up anything, but in that case a piece of
>>> paper would work just as well).
>>>
>>> My current 'mousepad' is a 50-year old hand-made cutting board (you
>>> know, for slicing veggies and whatnot) I inherited from a relative.
>>> Since I already had a very nice cutting board in the kitchen, I had to
>>> find some use for this battered piece of wood (it's been in the family
>>> so long, and has hand-written notes on it from my uncle, who made the
>>> thing). Turns out, it's /just/ the right size to be used as a mousing
>>> surface. And I'm sure all those scrapes and knife-cuts make it a lot
>>> easier for the mouse to 'see' where it's going. ;-P
>>
>>
>> I have a skyrim themed one my brother gave me.. It's a full-desk one.
>
> You mean your brother gave you a Skyrim themed desk.

Nah, it doesnt actually cover my desk. It covers a good distance though.
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Steven Thomsen-Jones <pika.banyan7805@eagereverest.com> wrote at 12:22 this Thursday (GMT):
> On 5/29/24 23:40, candycanearter07 wrote:
>> Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote at 15:08 this Wednesday (GMT):
>>> On 5/28/2024 1:35 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I've been late with this month's Completely Random And Pointless Poll.
>>>> So I won't take too long on the intro for this one. This time, let's
>>>> focus on your mouse. You know, that wiggly lil' plastic gadget beneath
>>>> your hand. Let's describe it!
>>>>
>>>> Please answer the following question. My mouse is:
>>>>
>>>
>>> As an additional question, wired or wireless?
>>>
>>> I have an aversion to wireless as you have to have batteries which
>>> increase the weight, and the inconvenience of the mouse working
>>> intermittently when they get low until you replace them. Or having a
>>> rechargeable mouse where it doesn't work until it's charged a bit
>>> possibly, and having the recharging port wear out. It's been a long
>>> time since I used a wireless mouse.
>>
>> Yeah, it is annoying. However, on the go it is nice to not deal with a
>> cable. For home/workstation setups, it is objectively worse IMO.
>
> Agreed, currently using a wired on my workstation. On the laptop I just
> use the trackpad, but then the only game I play on a laptop is Dwarf
> Fortress, and then I go KB only. There are those newer cordless mouses*

Original or Steam?

> that charge via NFC or something like it via a pad, so I MIGHT look into
> that next time I need a new one.

Seems neat, but probably obscenely expensive.

> *I understand the correct pluralisation of mouse for computers is
> 'mouses' rather than mice, as that only applies to the animal. Not sure
> anyone cares about that though :D

Eh, I just say mice. It's easier.
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On 5/29/2024 8:19 AM, Zaghadka wrote:
> On Tue, 28 May 2024 16:35:30 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
> Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>
>
>> Please answer the following question. My mouse is:
>>
>> 3) ... A high-end regular mouse; more than the usual 3-buttons
>> and perhaps an above-average DPI. I'm a good office worker!
>>
>
> Logitech M510. Normal buttons and wheel + 2 side buttons, programmable by
> running executable.
>
> Under normal circumstances, the bottom side button throws the window onto
> the other screen, and the top side button changes the pointer speed to
> super slow for precision mousing.
>
> In games, it's a real plus and not too hard to remember what each button
> does.
>
> In BG3, the top side button is enter rounds, and the bottom side button
> is group hide. In overload, afterburners and flashlight, etc.
>
> I think if I had more buttons it would become pretty useless, because I'd
> be fumbling for the right button.
>
> I didn't know nor care what the DPI is. Most DPIs are "good enough" these
> days, but I looked it up and it's 1,000. Good enough for my skill level
> in an FPS. Not pro-gamer level.
>

Apparently mines goes up to 25,600 DPI. I think it defaulted to 1600,
but I lowered it to 1200, and now 800 as it just flies around at the
higher DPI.

I think I had it default to 1300 in Dark souls III as I needed the
quicker movement to deal with the crap camera. I can't be sure as I
ended with 3 Dark Souls III profiles somehow, one set to 2400, one to
1300 and one to 1200.

It also updates 1000 times a second.

It is nice to set it just how I want in that regard, but having had it
awhile I wouldn't buy a mouse with that much maximum sensitivity, I'm
sure 1200 DPI would be fine.

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candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 23:10 this Wednesday (GMT):
> > candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
> >> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 18:53 this Wednesday (GMT):
> >> > #4 -- Optical simple mouses (2 buttons + 1 scrollwheel) with PS/2 and
> >> > #USB connections. PS/2 because I still use my OmnniCube KVM from Y2K!
> >
> >> What's an omnicube?
> >
> > https://www.amazon.com/Belkin-Omnicube-Kybrd-Mouse-Switch/dp/B00004Z7Y7
> >
> > KVM = Keyboard, Video, and Mouse. Yes, it's old and I still use old stuff.

> Nifty, I've not really seen one before.

It's useful if you have more than one PCs and just want to use one
keyboard, video, and mouse with them. ;) I discovered and fell in love
with KVMs back in the late 90s at work.

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> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 19:30 this Thursday (GMT):
> > Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
> >> On 5/29/2024 2:40 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
> >> > Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 18:53 this Wednesday (GMT):
> >> >> #4 -- Optical simple mouses (2 buttons + 1 scrollwheel) with PS/2 and
> >> >> #USB connections. PS/2 because I still use my OmnniCube KVM from Y2K!
> >> >
> >> > What's an omnicube?
> >
> >> A bigger, more powerful Borg Cube.
> >
> > http://zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/about/pictures/BorgAnt.jpg -- We are ANTZ. We will assimilate you. Resistance is futile." ;)

> woah spoopy
> but do you have asimovs laws

Nope.
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On 30/05/2024 22:05, candycanearter07 wrote:
>> *I understand the correct pluralisation of mouse for computers is
>> 'mouses' rather than mice, as that only applies to the animal. Not sure
>> anyone cares about that though :D
>
> Eh, I just say mice. It's easier.

Same here, I've never heard the plural of mouse been mouses in the
context of computers.

On 30/05/2024 19:22, Xocyll wrote:
> JAB <noway@nochance.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn
> spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:
>
> <snip>
>> If you have more money than sense you could always get one of these full
>> sized LED one for several hundred pounds. Who on earth buys this stuff?
>
> The gaming equivalent of the audiophule who buys molecularly aligned
> solid gold speaker cables.
>

I used to be into hifi and yes some of what you could buy definitely
seemed in the 'saw you coming sir' category. I do remember seeing
adverts that claimed cables that were 'molecularly aligned' and only
worked properly in one direction. Then you had the really expensive
'digital' cables'. It's a bit of wire and one of the advantages of
digital over analogy is that are way less susceptible to signal degradation.

That's not to say there isn't a difference between getting the cheapest
cables you could buy and spending a little more money but there where
companies that were just taking the pee in what they were flogging. It's
like a lot of things, there's a sweet spot before rapidly diminishing
returns kicks in.

The other thing I realised is there's a big difference between listening
to something in a shop with a dedicated room and, well sitting in your
lounge at home where the acoustics are less than optimal.

On 29/05/2024 08:52, Xocyll wrote:
> Never heard it called a mat before, always a mouse pad here in Canada.

I did check and it seems to be another British vs American English.

Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I've been late with this month's Completely Random And Pointless Poll.
> So I won't take too long on the intro for this one. This time, let's
> focus on your mouse. You know, that wiggly lil' plastic gadget beneath
> your hand. Let's describe it!
>
> Please answer the following question. My mouse is:
>
> 1) ...Top of the line! It has more buttons than my keyboard!
> It has so many LEDs I need a special permit so airplanes
> don't mistake it for landing lights. It's DPI is measured
> in fentometers. It's more programmable than my primary PC.
> If I can't do it with my mouse, it can't be done by any
> mouse.
>
> 2) ... A high-end gaming mouse; high-DPI and easily
> programmable so I can pwn the n00bs!
>
> 3) ... A high-end regular mouse; more than the usual 3-buttons
> and perhaps an above-average DPI. I'm a good office worker!
>
> 4) ... A mouse. Click-click-click. Hey, look, it's even
> got a scroll-wheel! What else could a mouse have?
>
> 5) ... The cheapest piece of plastic tat available, but
> it gets the job done (barely).
>
> 6) ... An Apple mouse: stylish but horrid to use
>
> 7) ... Still got a ball!
>
> 8) ... A trackpad, because I hate myself.
>
> 9) ... A trackball! (or some alternate pointing device,
> like the Thinkpad's mouse nub)
>
> 10) ... A keyboard, because real users stick with the
> command line
>
> 11) ... What's a mouse? I move the cursor by inputting the
> coordinate deltas manually!
>
>
>
> Myself, I fall firmly into category 3, with my stylish and comfortable
> Logitech mouse. Six buttons, although I almost never use any but the
> main two. (well, more accurately -given my habit of collecting useless
> electronics- I have a multitude which spans almost the entire list.
> But my primary mouse -the one I most often use- is as boring as
> described above).
>
>
> So describe your mouse? Do you let your hand wallow in luxury with the
> highest-end pointing device available, or tempt carpal tunnel with
> something that only vaguely resembles a mouse? The compilers of CRAP
> poll data need a response!
>
>
>
And my mouse is a 4.
I use a wireless kit (keyboard and mouse) from Logitech (nothing fancy).

Good day to all of you.

Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 29 May 2024 23:10:42 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
>
>>candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
>>> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 18:53 this Wednesday (GMT):
>>> > #4 -- Optical simple mouses (2 buttons + 1 scrollwheel) with PS/2 and
>>> > #USB connections. PS/2 because I still use my OmnniCube KVM from Y2K!
>>
>>> What's an omnicube?
>>
>>https://www.amazon.com/Belkin-Omnicube-Kybrd-Mouse-Switch/dp/B00004Z7Y7
>>
>>KVM = Keyboard, Video, and Mouse. Yes, it's old and I still use old stuff.
>
> I have an OmniView KVM switcher. I used it right up to when I started
> using DosBox. At that point, I no longer needed the DOS computer or
> the KVM switcher.
>
> I like yours better as it is more compact.

What config had/have the DOS computer?
I am asking because I use also a P2 @ 350 mhz just for DOS games.