I've been late with this month's Completely Random And Pointless Poll.
So I won't take too long on the intro for this one. This time, let's
focus on your mouse. You know, that wiggly lil' plastic gadget beneath
your hand. Let's describe it!

Please answer the following question. My mouse is:

1) ...Top of the line! It has more buttons than my keyboard!
It has so many LEDs I need a special permit so airplanes
don't mistake it for landing lights. It's DPI is measured
in fentometers. It's more programmable than my primary PC.
If I can't do it with my mouse, it can't be done by any
mouse.

2) ... A high-end gaming mouse; high-DPI and easily
programmable so I can pwn the n00bs!

3) ... A high-end regular mouse; more than the usual 3-buttons
and perhaps an above-average DPI. I'm a good office worker!

4) ... A mouse. Click-click-click. Hey, look, it's even
got a scroll-wheel! What else could a mouse have?

5) ... The cheapest piece of plastic tat available, but
it gets the job done (barely).

6) ... An Apple mouse: stylish but horrid to use

7) ... Still got a ball!

8) ... A trackpad, because I hate myself.

9) ... A trackball! (or some alternate pointing device,
like the Thinkpad's mouse nub)

10) ... A keyboard, because real users stick with the
command line

11) ... What's a mouse? I move the cursor by inputting the
coordinate deltas manually!

Myself, I fall firmly into category 3, with my stylish and comfortable
Logitech mouse. Six buttons, although I almost never use any but the
main two. (well, more accurately -given my habit of collecting useless
electronics- I have a multitude which spans almost the entire list.
But my primary mouse -the one I most often use- is as boring as
described above).

So describe your mouse? Do you let your hand wallow in luxury with the
highest-end pointing device available, or tempt carpal tunnel with
something that only vaguely resembles a mouse? The compilers of CRAP
poll data need a response!

> 2) ... A high-end gaming mouse;

CoolerMaster MM520, with a MM720 waiting. These are successors to, with
better sensors but inferior ergonomics, to the classic fingertip mouse Spawn
https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/legacy-products/peripheral/spawn/#!

rms

On 5/28/2024 1:35 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>
> I've been late with this month's Completely Random And Pointless Poll.
> So I won't take too long on the intro for this one. This time, let's
> focus on your mouse. You know, that wiggly lil' plastic gadget beneath
> your hand. Let's describe it!
>
> Please answer the following question. My mouse is:
>
> 1) ...Top of the line! It has more buttons than my keyboard!
> It has so many LEDs I need a special permit so airplanes
> don't mistake it for landing lights. It's DPI is measured
> in fentometers. It's more programmable than my primary PC.
> If I can't do it with my mouse, it can't be done by any
> mouse.
>
> 2) ... A high-end gaming mouse; high-DPI and easily
> programmable so I can pwn the n00bs!
>
> 3) ... A high-end regular mouse; more than the usual 3-buttons
> and perhaps an above-average DPI. I'm a good office worker!
>
> 4) ... A mouse. Click-click-click. Hey, look, it's even
> got a scroll-wheel! What else could a mouse have?
>
> 5) ... The cheapest piece of plastic tat available, but
> it gets the job done (barely).
>
> 6) ... An Apple mouse: stylish but horrid to use
>
> 7) ... Still got a ball!
>
> 8) ... A trackpad, because I hate myself.
>
> 9) ... A trackball! (or some alternate pointing device,
> like the Thinkpad's mouse nub)
>
> 10) ... A keyboard, because real users stick with the
> command line
>
> 11) ... What's a mouse? I move the cursor by inputting the
> coordinate deltas manually!
>
>
>
> Myself, I fall firmly into category 3, with my stylish and comfortable
> Logitech mouse. Six buttons, although I almost never use any but the
> main two. (well, more accurately -given my habit of collecting useless
> electronics- I have a multitude which spans almost the entire list.
> But my primary mouse -the one I most often use- is as boring as
> described above).
>
>
> So describe your mouse? Do you let your hand wallow in luxury with the
> highest-end pointing device available, or tempt carpal tunnel with
> something that only vaguely resembles a mouse? The compilers of CRAP
> poll data need a response!
>
My mouse is a type IV rodent.

--
I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
dirty old man.

Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote at 20:35 this Tuesday (GMT):
>
> I've been late with this month's Completely Random And Pointless Poll.
> So I won't take too long on the intro for this one. This time, let's
> focus on your mouse. You know, that wiggly lil' plastic gadget beneath
> your hand. Let's describe it!
>
> Please answer the following question. My mouse is:
>
> 1) ...Top of the line! It has more buttons than my keyboard!
> It has so many LEDs I need a special permit so airplanes
> don't mistake it for landing lights. It's DPI is measured
> in fentometers. It's more programmable than my primary PC.
> If I can't do it with my mouse, it can't be done by any
> mouse.
>
> 2) ... A high-end gaming mouse; high-DPI and easily
> programmable so I can pwn the n00bs!
>
> 3) ... A high-end regular mouse; more than the usual 3-buttons
> and perhaps an above-average DPI. I'm a good office worker!
>
> 4) ... A mouse. Click-click-click. Hey, look, it's even
> got a scroll-wheel! What else could a mouse have?
>
> 5) ... The cheapest piece of plastic tat available, but
> it gets the job done (barely).
>
> 6) ... An Apple mouse: stylish but horrid to use
>
> 7) ... Still got a ball!
>
> 8) ... A trackpad, because I hate myself.
>
> 9) ... A trackball! (or some alternate pointing device,
> like the Thinkpad's mouse nub)
>
> 10) ... A keyboard, because real users stick with the
> command line
>
> 11) ... What's a mouse? I move the cursor by inputting the
> coordinate deltas manually!
>
>
>
> Myself, I fall firmly into category 3, with my stylish and comfortable
> Logitech mouse. Six buttons, although I almost never use any but the
> main two. (well, more accurately -given my habit of collecting useless
> electronics- I have a multitude which spans almost the entire list.
> But my primary mouse -the one I most often use- is as boring as
> described above).
>
>
> So describe your mouse? Do you let your hand wallow in luxury with the
> highest-end pointing device available, or tempt carpal tunnel with
> something that only vaguely resembles a mouse? The compilers of CRAP
> poll data need a response!

4, easily. I've been using the same Logitech mouse for a while now.
--
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rms <rsquiresMOO@MOOflashMOO.net> wrote at 22:53 this Tuesday (GMT):
>> 2) ... A high-end gaming mouse;
>
> CoolerMaster MM520, with a MM720 waiting. These are successors to, with
> better sensors but inferior ergonomics, to the classic fingertip mouse Spawn
> https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/legacy-products/peripheral/spawn/#!
>
> rms

Wow, that is fancy.
--
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Probably the closest is a 3) with a bit of 2) as it's a MX518 Legendary
which I got to replace my original MX518 as the buttons were starting to
get sticky literally. I did take it apart to give a good clean. That
went well the problem was I failed trying to put it back together.

I did think about getting a 'proper' gaming mouse but considering how
rare it was that I even bothered to remap keys to buttons I though I'd
just go for one which is just the same as I've already got but with some
hardware updates.

On 29/05/2024 02:40, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
> My mouse is a type IV rodent.

Once when we visited Sterling Castle (Scotland) we were in the gift shop
and my better asked why would you get a mat for a mouse, what's the
mouse going to do with it? It took me few seconds to process that they
though it was a mat for a real life mouse!

Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the
entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
say:

>
>I've been late with this month's Completely Random And Pointless Poll.
>So I won't take too long on the intro for this one. This time, let's
>focus on your mouse. You know, that wiggly lil' plastic gadget beneath
>your hand. Let's describe it!
>
>Please answer the following question. My mouse is:
>
> 1) ...Top of the line! It has more buttons than my keyboard!
> It has so many LEDs I need a special permit so airplanes
> don't mistake it for landing lights. It's DPI is measured
> in fentometers. It's more programmable than my primary PC.
> If I can't do it with my mouse, it can't be done by any
> mouse.
>
> 2) ... A high-end gaming mouse; high-DPI and easily
> programmable so I can pwn the n00bs!
>
> 3) ... A high-end regular mouse; more than the usual 3-buttons
> and perhaps an above-average DPI. I'm a good office worker!
>
> 4) ... A mouse. Click-click-click. Hey, look, it's even
> got a scroll-wheel! What else could a mouse have?
>
> 5) ... The cheapest piece of plastic tat available, but
> it gets the job done (barely).
>
> 6) ... An Apple mouse: stylish but horrid to use
>
> 7) ... Still got a ball!
>
> 8) ... A trackpad, because I hate myself.
>
> 9) ... A trackball! (or some alternate pointing device,
> like the Thinkpad's mouse nub)
>
> 10) ... A keyboard, because real users stick with the
> command line
>
> 11) ... What's a mouse? I move the cursor by inputting the
> coordinate deltas manually!
>
>
>
>Myself, I fall firmly into category 3, with my stylish and comfortable
>Logitech mouse. Six buttons, although I almost never use any but the
>main two. (well, more accurately -given my habit of collecting useless
>electronics- I have a multitude which spans almost the entire list.
>But my primary mouse -the one I most often use- is as boring as
>described above).

Sounds a bit like mine, a corsair something or other.

I've been using ambidextrous mice since the logitech mx-310.

Standard layout + one button on each side and one behind the wheel.
Ever since Half-life, I think, which did not recognize more than 2 mouse
buttons, I have assigned them to pgup, pgdn and del (left side, right
side, behind wheel.)

If it's a shooter, pgup = reload, pgdn = interact, del grenade usually.

I navigate in text modes/browsers/etc with the pgup/pgdn buttons daily.

Index and middle finger on left/right, thumb and ring finger on the side
buttons - it's comfortable and efficient.

A crap load of Mx-310s (little plastic part inside wore down with use -
prefect layout design, crap manufacturing, then a razor Taipan I think
it was, same layout, a Steelseries sensei which didn't have articulated
left/right buttons, instead the case bent, until it snapped.
Replaced with some brand-x "Dragon Wars" mouse, which is still attached
to the alt computer, and then finally this corsair on the new one.

Wait, I lie, there was another mouse before the corsair, which I had to
return since you could not customize anything without the drivers, which
were not included and had to be downloaded, from a site that no longer
existed since the company failed 2 years earlier.

Frankly mousepad is if anything more important.

Used 3M Precise Mousing Surface since the days of ball mice, but you
can't find those anywhere anymore and I ended up with a Razer branded
one. Add a little duct tape to the closest edge to stop it shifting
and away you go.

Hell you could even put cotton balls or something under the tape to make
your own non intrusive wrist rest.

Xocyll

JAB <noway@nochance.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn
spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

>On 29/05/2024 02:40, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
>> My mouse is a type IV rodent.
>
>Once when we visited Sterling Castle (Scotland) we were in the gift shop
>and my better asked why would you get a mat for a mouse, what's the
>mouse going to do with it? It took me few seconds to process that they
>though it was a mat for a real life mouse!

Should have replied "it's for mouse wrestling, how can they 'go to the
mat' if they don't have a mat?"

Never heard it called a mat before, always a mouse pad here in Canada.

Xocyll

>> CoolerMaster MM520, with a MM720 waiting. These are successors to,
>> with
>> better sensors but inferior ergonomics, to the classic fingertip mouse
>> Spawn
>> https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/legacy-products/peripheral/spawn/#!
>
>Wow, that is fancy.

Few buttons, but wide & stubby, like my women!

rms

On Wed, 29 May 2024 03:50:49 -0400, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:

>
>Frankly mousepad is if anything more important.

Shhhh! Don't give away next week's CRAP Poll! ;-)

Maybe it's just me -or the average mice I use- but I've never really
seen/felt much advantage from mouse pads. Or rather, not from a mouse
pad over an average surface (there are times when a mouse pad is
absolutely necessary because the table you're on is just so shitty
that the mouse can't pick up anything, but in that case a piece of
paper would work just as well).

My current 'mousepad' is a 50-year old hand-made cutting board (you
know, for slicing veggies and whatnot) I inherited from a relative.
Since I already had a very nice cutting board in the kitchen, I had to
find some use for this battered piece of wood (it's been in the family
so long, and has hand-written notes on it from my uncle, who made the
thing). Turns out, it's /just/ the right size to be used as a mousing
surface. And I'm sure all those scrapes and knife-cuts make it a lot
easier for the mouse to 'see' where it's going. ;-P

On 5/28/2024 1:35 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>
> I've been late with this month's Completely Random And Pointless Poll.
> So I won't take too long on the intro for this one. This time, let's
> focus on your mouse. You know, that wiggly lil' plastic gadget beneath
> your hand. Let's describe it!
>
> Please answer the following question. My mouse is:

> 2) ... A high-end gaming mouse; high-DPI and easily
> programmable so I can pwn the n00bs!
>
> 3) ... A high-end regular mouse; more than the usual 3-buttons
> and perhaps an above-average DPI. I'm a good office worker!

> Myself, I fall firmly into category 3, with my stylish and comfortable
> Logitech mouse. Six buttons, although I almost never use any but the
> main two. (well, more accurately -given my habit of collecting useless
> electronics- I have a multitude which spans almost the entire list.
> But my primary mouse -the one I most often use- is as boring as
> described above).
>
>
> So describe your mouse? Do you let your hand wallow in luxury with the
> highest-end pointing device available, or tempt carpal tunnel with
> something that only vaguely resembles a mouse? The compilers of CRAP
> poll data need a response!
>

Logitech G502-Hero
https://www.logitechg.com/en-us/products/gaming-mice/g502-hero-gaming-mouse.910-005469.html

Which fits somewhere between 2-3 I'd guess.

It was recommended by a couple people here and was very popular
elsewhere. I don't like the software to configure it, there's a couple
places you can do it, and one of them was the wrong one. It also wants
you to find the game and tie it to the game then it's supposed to change
the configuration to that game as you enter and leave it. However it
doing that is flakey, it doesn't always do it, and I just want to set it
to that mode and leave it until I play something else. It tends to get
confused by alt-tabbing or just leaving the window.

Because of how arcane it is I only ever set it up with Dark Souls 3 and
one other game I don't remember what. Unfortunately Elden ring was even
more unfriendly to using a mouse than DS3, and I couldn't really use it
and had to constantly switch back and forth to controller depending what
I was doing which was too much trouble.

The extra buttons are mostly very small some long and thin, and weirdly
placed though and I have some trouble using them.

It works fairly well and is comfortable as a normal mouse, but the
button to change resolution is on the side and I occasionally
accidentally press it by banging it into the keyboard. I also tend to
hit the resolution button when scrolling as it's right below the wheel
lock. Both those are annoying in games as it pops up a message over the
game window in the bottom right distracting and slowing me down.

****

My favorite I ever had was a Razor Naga which had 10 buttons by default
mapped to the keyboard number row 1 through 0 on the side meant for use
with an MMO. I never mapped those to anything else, and they were
somewhat hard to use due to being the very tiny size, but I did use them
on occasion, and I did do the other way where I mapped those keys in
games to other functions. It eventually died, and I replaced it after
using a standard 2(3) button mouse for awhile. The replacement required
a username password with Razer to log in to open their configuration
software. Due to an error on their website I wasn't able to create an
account. I emailed their support multiple times with no response. I
continued using it, but the mouse started having problems after a very
short time (around 6 months if I remember correctly.

Razor is now on my never buy from again, and warn others as often as it
comes up due to these issues list.

--
-Justisaur

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On 5/28/2024 1:35 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>
> I've been late with this month's Completely Random And Pointless Poll.
> So I won't take too long on the intro for this one. This time, let's
> focus on your mouse. You know, that wiggly lil' plastic gadget beneath
> your hand. Let's describe it!
>
> Please answer the following question. My mouse is:
>

As an additional question, wired or wireless?

I have an aversion to wireless as you have to have batteries which
increase the weight, and the inconvenience of the mouse working
intermittently when they get low until you replace them. Or having a
rechargeable mouse where it doesn't work until it's charged a bit
possibly, and having the recharging port wear out. It's been a long
time since I used a wireless mouse.

I'd also add to my answer I do use the touchpad on my work laptop due to
space constraints and the fact I work on a lot of other people's laptops
and end up having to use it on theirs.

--
-Justisaur

ø-ø
(\_/)\
`-'\ `--.___,
¶¬'\( ,_.-'
\\
^'

On Tue, 28 May 2024 16:35:30 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

>Please answer the following question. My mouse is:
>
> 3) ... A high-end regular mouse; more than the usual 3-buttons
> and perhaps an above-average DPI. I'm a good office worker!
>

Logitech M510. Normal buttons and wheel + 2 side buttons, programmable by
running executable.

Under normal circumstances, the bottom side button throws the window onto
the other screen, and the top side button changes the pointer speed to
super slow for precision mousing.

In games, it's a real plus and not too hard to remember what each button
does.

In BG3, the top side button is enter rounds, and the bottom side button
is group hide. In overload, afterburners and flashlight, etc.

I think if I had more buttons it would become pretty useless, because I'd
be fumbling for the right button.

I didn't know nor care what the DPI is. Most DPIs are "good enough" these
days, but I looked it up and it's 1,000. Good enough for my skill level
in an FPS. Not pro-gamer level.

--
Zag

No one ever said on their deathbed, 'Gee, I wish I had
spent more time alone with my computer.' ~Dan(i) Bunten

On Tue, 28 May 2024 16:35:30 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson
<spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

>Please answer the following question. My mouse is:
>
> 1) ...Top of the line! It has more buttons than my keyboard!
> It has so many LEDs I need a special permit so airplanes
> don't mistake it for landing lights. It's DPI is measured
> in fentometers. It's more programmable than my primary PC.
> If I can't do it with my mouse, it can't be done by any
> mouse.
>
> 2) ... A high-end gaming mouse; high-DPI and easily
> programmable so I can pwn the n00bs!
>
> 3) ... A high-end regular mouse; more than the usual 3-buttons
> and perhaps an above-average DPI. I'm a good office worker!

I have a Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum. I have no idea if that is a 2
or 3 but I don't remember it being that expensive so probably closer
to 3 on your scale.

I don't care at all about DPI but mine can go up to 1000. I only care
how it feels in my hand and if I can remap buttons to keystrokes.

To answer Justisaur's question, it is wired. I had wireless mice
before this one but I got tired of charging and changing batteries.
The wire on this one does not bother me so I am sticking to wired from
now on.

#4 -- Optical simple mouses (2 buttons + 1 scrollwheel) with PS/2 and
#USB connections. PS/2 because I still use my OmnniCube KVM from Y2K!

Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've been late with this month's Completely Random And Pointless Poll.
> So I won't take too long on the intro for this one. This time, let's
> focus on your mouse. You know, that wiggly lil' plastic gadget beneath
> your hand. Let's describe it!

> Please answer the following question. My mouse is:

> 1) ...Top of the line! It has more buttons than my keyboard!
> It has so many LEDs I need a special permit so airplanes
> don't mistake it for landing lights. It's DPI is measured
> in fentometers. It's more programmable than my primary PC.
> If I can't do it with my mouse, it can't be done by any
> mouse.

> 2) ... A high-end gaming mouse; high-DPI and easily
> programmable so I can pwn the n00bs!

> 3) ... A high-end regular mouse; more than the usual 3-buttons
> and perhaps an above-average DPI. I'm a good office worker!

> 4) ... A mouse. Click-click-click. Hey, look, it's even
> got a scroll-wheel! What else could a mouse have?

> 5) ... The cheapest piece of plastic tat available, but
> it gets the job done (barely).

> 6) ... An Apple mouse: stylish but horrid to use

> 7) ... Still got a ball!

> 8) ... A trackpad, because I hate myself.

> 9) ... A trackball! (or some alternate pointing device,
> like the Thinkpad's mouse nub)

> 10) ... A keyboard, because real users stick with the
> command line

> 11) ... What's a mouse? I move the cursor by inputting the
> coordinate deltas manually!

> Myself, I fall firmly into category 3, with my stylish and comfortable
> Logitech mouse. Six buttons, although I almost never use any but the
> main two. (well, more accurately -given my habit of collecting useless
> electronics- I have a multitude which spans almost the entire list.
> But my primary mouse -the one I most often use- is as boring as
> described above).

> So describe your mouse? Do you let your hand wallow in luxury with the
> highest-end pointing device available, or tempt carpal tunnel with
> something that only vaguely resembles a mouse? The compilers of CRAP
> poll data need a response!
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Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>
> I've been late with this month's Completely Random And Pointless Poll.
> So I won't take too long on the intro for this one. This time, let's
> focus on your mouse. You know, that wiggly lil' plastic gadget beneath
> your hand. Let's describe it!
>
> Please answer the following question. My mouse is:
>
> 1) ...Top of the line! It has more buttons than my keyboard!
> It has so many LEDs I need a special permit so airplanes
> don't mistake it for landing lights. It's DPI is measured
> in fentometers. It's more programmable than my primary PC.
> If I can't do it with my mouse, it can't be done by any
> mouse.
>
> 2) ... A high-end gaming mouse; high-DPI and easily
> programmable so I can pwn the n00bs!
>
> 3) ... A high-end regular mouse; more than the usual 3-buttons
> and perhaps an above-average DPI. I'm a good office worker!
>
> 4) ... A mouse. Click-click-click. Hey, look, it's even
> got a scroll-wheel! What else could a mouse have?
>
> 5) ... The cheapest piece of plastic tat available, but
> it gets the job done (barely).
>
> 6) ... An Apple mouse: stylish but horrid to use
>
> 7) ... Still got a ball!
>
> 8) ... A trackpad, because I hate myself.
>
> 9) ... A trackball! (or some alternate pointing device,
> like the Thinkpad's mouse nub)
>
> 10) ... A keyboard, because real users stick with the
> command line
>
> 11) ... What's a mouse? I move the cursor by inputting the
> coordinate deltas manually!
>
>
>
> Myself, I fall firmly into category 3, with my stylish and comfortable
> Logitech mouse. Six buttons, although I almost never use any but the
> main two. (well, more accurately -given my habit of collecting useless
> electronics- I have a multitude which spans almost the entire list.
> But my primary mouse -the one I most often use- is as boring as
> described above).
>
>
> So describe your mouse? Do you let your hand wallow in luxury with the
> highest-end pointing device available, or tempt carpal tunnel with
> something that only vaguely resembles a mouse? The compilers of CRAP
> poll data need a response!

3.5) Nice mouse with a scroll wheel, but SILENT CLICK. I use my
computer all through the night.

Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 18:53 this Wednesday (GMT):
> #4 -- Optical simple mouses (2 buttons + 1 scrollwheel) with PS/2 and
> #USB connections. PS/2 because I still use my OmnniCube KVM from Y2K!
>
>
> Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I've been late with this month's Completely Random And Pointless Poll.
>> So I won't take too long on the intro for this one. This time, let's
>> focus on your mouse. You know, that wiggly lil' plastic gadget beneath
>> your hand. Let's describe it!
>
>> Please answer the following question. My mouse is:
>
>> 1) ...Top of the line! It has more buttons than my keyboard!
>> It has so many LEDs I need a special permit so airplanes
>> don't mistake it for landing lights. It's DPI is measured
>> in fentometers. It's more programmable than my primary PC.
>> If I can't do it with my mouse, it can't be done by any
>> mouse.
>
>> 2) ... A high-end gaming mouse; high-DPI and easily
>> programmable so I can pwn the n00bs!
>
>> 3) ... A high-end regular mouse; more than the usual 3-buttons
>> and perhaps an above-average DPI. I'm a good office worker!
>
>> 4) ... A mouse. Click-click-click. Hey, look, it's even
>> got a scroll-wheel! What else could a mouse have?
>
>> 5) ... The cheapest piece of plastic tat available, but
>> it gets the job done (barely).
>
>> 6) ... An Apple mouse: stylish but horrid to use
>
>> 7) ... Still got a ball!
>
>> 8) ... A trackpad, because I hate myself.
>
>> 9) ... A trackball! (or some alternate pointing device,
>> like the Thinkpad's mouse nub)
>
>> 10) ... A keyboard, because real users stick with the
>> command line
>
>> 11) ... What's a mouse? I move the cursor by inputting the
>> coordinate deltas manually!
>
>
>
>> Myself, I fall firmly into category 3, with my stylish and comfortable
>> Logitech mouse. Six buttons, although I almost never use any but the
>> main two. (well, more accurately -given my habit of collecting useless
>> electronics- I have a multitude which spans almost the entire list.
>> But my primary mouse -the one I most often use- is as boring as
>> described above).
>
>
>> So describe your mouse? Do you let your hand wallow in luxury with the
>> highest-end pointing device available, or tempt carpal tunnel with
>> something that only vaguely resembles a mouse? The compilers of CRAP
>> poll data need a response!

What's an omnicube?
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Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote at 15:08 this Wednesday (GMT):
> On 5/28/2024 1:35 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>>
>> I've been late with this month's Completely Random And Pointless Poll.
>> So I won't take too long on the intro for this one. This time, let's
>> focus on your mouse. You know, that wiggly lil' plastic gadget beneath
>> your hand. Let's describe it!
>>
>> Please answer the following question. My mouse is:
>>
>
> As an additional question, wired or wireless?
>
> I have an aversion to wireless as you have to have batteries which
> increase the weight, and the inconvenience of the mouse working
> intermittently when they get low until you replace them. Or having a
> rechargeable mouse where it doesn't work until it's charged a bit
> possibly, and having the recharging port wear out. It's been a long
> time since I used a wireless mouse.

Yeah, it is annoying. However, on the go it is nice to not deal with a
cable. For home/workstation setups, it is objectively worse IMO.

> I'd also add to my answer I do use the touchpad on my work laptop due to
> space constraints and the fact I work on a lot of other people's laptops
> and end up having to use it on theirs.

Same, bc my mouse randomly cuts out for no reason. Probably an issue
with the USB-C hub I use.
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Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote at 14:08 this Wednesday (GMT):
> On Wed, 29 May 2024 03:50:49 -0400, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>Frankly mousepad is if anything more important.
>
> Shhhh! Don't give away next week's CRAP Poll! ;-)
>
>
> Maybe it's just me -or the average mice I use- but I've never really
> seen/felt much advantage from mouse pads. Or rather, not from a mouse
> pad over an average surface (there are times when a mouse pad is
> absolutely necessary because the table you're on is just so shitty
> that the mouse can't pick up anything, but in that case a piece of
> paper would work just as well).
>
> My current 'mousepad' is a 50-year old hand-made cutting board (you
> know, for slicing veggies and whatnot) I inherited from a relative.
> Since I already had a very nice cutting board in the kitchen, I had to
> find some use for this battered piece of wood (it's been in the family
> so long, and has hand-written notes on it from my uncle, who made the
> thing). Turns out, it's /just/ the right size to be used as a mousing
> surface. And I'm sure all those scrapes and knife-cuts make it a lot
> easier for the mouse to 'see' where it's going. ;-P

I have a skyrim themed one my brother gave me.. It's a full-desk one.
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rms <rsquiresMOO@MOOflashMOO.net> wrote at 13:12 this Wednesday (GMT):
>>> CoolerMaster MM520, with a MM720 waiting. These are successors to,
>>> with
>>> better sensors but inferior ergonomics, to the classic fingertip mouse
>>> Spawn
>>> https://www.coolermaster.com/catalog/legacy-products/peripheral/spawn/#!
>>
>>Wow, that is fancy.
>
> Few buttons, but wide & stubby, like my women!
>
> rms

Not gonna question that
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candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 18:53 this Wednesday (GMT):
> > #4 -- Optical simple mouses (2 buttons + 1 scrollwheel) with PS/2 and
> > #USB connections. PS/2 because I still use my OmnniCube KVM from Y2K!

> What's an omnicube?

https://www.amazon.com/Belkin-Omnicube-Kybrd-Mouse-Switch/dp/B00004Z7Y7

KVM = Keyboard, Video, and Mouse. Yes, it's old and I still use old stuff.
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Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the
entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
say:

>On Wed, 29 May 2024 03:50:49 -0400, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>Frankly mousepad is if anything more important.
>
>Shhhh! Don't give away next week's CRAP Poll! ;-)

Oops. :)

>Maybe it's just me -or the average mice I use- but I've never really
>seen/felt much advantage from mouse pads. Or rather, not from a mouse
>pad over an average surface (there are times when a mouse pad is
>absolutely necessary because the table you're on is just so shitty
>that the mouse can't pick up anything, but in that case a piece of
>paper would work just as well).

The 3M Precise Mousing Surface was a godsend back in the ball mice days,
it was designed as a sheet of peaks and valleys, the ball rolled on the
peaks and the cruft that always ended up on the pad (dust, skin cells,
whatever,) fell into the valleys.

I kept using it into the led mouse times because it was ultra thin, and
they tracked well on it. I'd place it where I wanted, then duct tape
it down, and it would be higher than the regular desk top by ~1mm, so
mostly unnoticeable.

One of the later replacements, I could not get just the thin pad, they'd
glued it to a thicker standard old fabric pad with an attached wrist
rest - it was so obtrusive.
Cut off the wrist rest, peeled the thin pad off the back and taped it
down and all was good for another 5-6 years.

I usually mouse with my wrist resting on the desk surface, and sliding
it around with thumb and ring finger. The thicker pads really made that
awkward.

>My current 'mousepad' is a 50-year old hand-made cutting board (you
>know, for slicing veggies and whatnot) I inherited from a relative.
>Since I already had a very nice cutting board in the kitchen, I had to
>find some use for this battered piece of wood (it's been in the family
>so long, and has hand-written notes on it from my uncle, who made the
>thing). Turns out, it's /just/ the right size to be used as a mousing
>surface. And I'm sure all those scrapes and knife-cuts make it a lot
>easier for the mouse to 'see' where it's going. ;-P

That sounds a lot thicker than I would like to use

Xocyll

Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> writes:

> 2) ... A high-end gaming mouse; high-DPI and easily
> programmable so I can pwn the n00bs!

> 4) ... A mouse. Click-click-click. Hey, look, it's even
> got a scroll-wheel! What else could a mouse have?

I guess mine is kinda between these two? Roccat Kone Pure SEL is a
gaming mouse but I don't think it's high-end. The RGB is just a logo on
the mouse and was turned off long ago. DPI is good enough, it's
adjustable but I don't think I run it at the highest setting.

Two buttons, wheel (which is also a button), two side buttons. DPI
adjustment buttons too. Not really programmable since the SEL in the
name means it's a cost reduced version of Roccat Kone Pure.

Oh yes, I've had it for some years, I think I wrote much the same thing
in a previous mouse poll already.

On 29/05/2024 15:08, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
> On Wed, 29 May 2024 03:50:49 -0400, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Frankly mousepad is if anything more important.
>
> Shhhh! Don't give away next week's CRAP Poll! ;-)
>
>
> Maybe it's just me -or the average mice I use- but I've never really
> seen/felt much advantage from mouse pads. Or rather, not from a mouse
> pad over an average surface (there are times when a mouse pad is
> absolutely necessary because the table you're on is just so shitty
> that the mouse can't pick up anything, but in that case a piece of
> paper would work just as well).
>
> My current 'mousepad' is a 50-year old hand-made cutting board (you
> know, for slicing veggies and whatnot) I inherited from a relative.
> Since I already had a very nice cutting board in the kitchen, I had to
> find some use for this battered piece of wood (it's been in the family
> so long, and has hand-written notes on it from my uncle, who made the
> thing). Turns out, it's /just/ the right size to be used as a mousing
> surface. And I'm sure all those scrapes and knife-cuts make it a lot
> easier for the mouse to 'see' where it's going. ;-P
>

I prefer a mouse mat for two main reasons. The first is that it dampens
the noise of using the desktop directly and the real big one, I find
having a wrist pad just more comfortable in use.

As you say though the days when you really needed one are long gone so I
wonder how many people use them just out of habit.

If you have more money than sense you could always get one of these full
sized LED one for several hundred pounds. Who on earth buys this stuff?