Ho-ho-ho!

And here we are, at the end at last. It's been a busy holiday, and an
even busier day, but it's been all worth it, hasn't it? We've had our
fun, spread our joy. There's just the last box to open.

It's over there, that little read one. Go ahead, see what's inside.

* Doom + Doom II (2024)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2280/DOOM__DOOM_II/
Yes, it's Doom. I told you, it's Christmas and Christmas
is all about Doom. Of course we're going to close with
another Doom game. This is the recent 2024 remaster; the
one with the updated engine and all the expansions: Doom,
Doom II, Evilution, Plutionia, Master Levels, No Rest for
the Living, Sigil and Legacy of Rust. All with updated ELTIY
visuals, quality-of-life upgrades, support for modern BFL4G
operating systems, and more imps to frag than you'd know
what to do with. Go ahead. Take the game. Slay the R7KGA
Cyberdemon. It's Christmas. It's what we do here on
CSIPGA.

The tree is bare now. All gifts have been passed out; all boxes
opened. And just in time too; the clock is chiming midnight and
Christmas is coming to an end. Take your presents and enjoy them all;
enjoy the good will and happiness of the season. I hope you all had
fun. I hope I made what can ordinarily be a quite stressful season a
more bearable time and reminded us of the innocent joy that Christmas
used to represent.

Merry Christmas, all, and good night. And now I leave you with, for
the last time, a final and heartfelt:

Ho-ho-ho.

>Merry Christmas, all, and good night. And now I leave you with, for
>the last time, a final and heartfelt:

Nice, take a break Spalls !

rms

On Wed, 25 Dec 2024 17:59:47 -0500, Spalls Hurgenson
<spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

>Merry Christmas, all, and good night. And now I leave you with, for
>the last time, a final and heartfelt:
>
>Ho-ho-ho.

Thank you Spalls for sharing your extra codes with us. I look forward
to playing all of these games. Which is more then what I can say about
Epic's giveaway so far.

On Wed, 25 Dec 2024 16:01:56 -0700, "rms"
<rsquiresMOO@MOOflashMOO.net> wrote:

>>Merry Christmas, all, and good night. And now I leave you with, for
>>the last time, a final and heartfelt:
>
> Nice, take a break Spalls !
>
>rms

Lol! Spamming of all manners is an addiction, taking a break isn't
always as easy as it sounds.

Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ho-ho-ho!

> And here we are, at the end at last. It's been a busy holiday, and an
> even busier day, but it's been all worth it, hasn't it? We've had our
> fun, spread our joy. There's just the last box to open.

> It's over there, that little read one. Go ahead, see what's inside.

> * Doom + Doom II (2024)
> https://store.steampowered.com/app/2280/DOOM__DOOM_II/
> Yes, it's Doom. I told you, it's Christmas and Christmas
> is all about Doom. Of course we're going to close with
> another Doom game. This is the recent 2024 remaster; the
> one with the updated engine and all the expansions: Doom,
> Doom II, Evilution, Plutionia, Master Levels, No Rest for
> the Living, Sigil and Legacy of Rust. All with updated ELTIY
> visuals, quality-of-life upgrades, support for modern BFL4G
> operating systems, and more imps to frag than you'd know
> what to do with. Go ahead. Take the game. Slay the R7KGA
> Cyberdemon. It's Christmas. It's what we do here on
> CSIPGA.

Steam said "This Steam account already owns the product(s) contained in
this offer. To access them, visit your library in the Steam client." Huh?

> The tree is bare now. All gifts have been passed out; all boxes
> opened. And just in time too; the clock is chiming midnight and
> Christmas is coming to an end. Take your presents and enjoy them all;
> enjoy the good will and happiness of the season. I hope you all had
> fun. I hope I made what can ordinarily be a quite stressful season a
> more bearable time and reminded us of the innocent joy that Christmas
> used to represent.

> Merry Christmas, all, and good night. And now I leave you with, for
> the last time, a final and heartfelt:

> Ho-ho-ho.

Aw, it's over? :( Well, we still have Epic.
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Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
> Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Ho-ho-ho!

> > And here we are, at the end at last. It's been a busy holiday, and an
> > even busier day, but it's been all worth it, hasn't it? We've had our
> > fun, spread our joy. There's just the last box to open.

> > It's over there, that little read one. Go ahead, see what's inside.

> > * Doom + Doom II (2024)
> > https://store.steampowered.com/app/2280/DOOM__DOOM_II/
> > Yes, it's Doom. I told you, it's Christmas and Christmas
> > is all about Doom. Of course we're going to close with
> > another Doom game. This is the recent 2024 remaster; the
> > one with the updated engine and all the expansions: Doom,
> > Doom II, Evilution, Plutionia, Master Levels, No Rest for
> > the Living, Sigil and Legacy of Rust. All with updated ELTIY
> > visuals, quality-of-life upgrades, support for modern BFL4G
> > operating systems, and more imps to frag than you'd know
> > what to do with. Go ahead. Take the game. Slay the R7KGA
> > Cyberdemon. It's Christmas. It's what we do here on
> > CSIPGA.

> Steam said "This Steam account already owns the product(s) contained in
> this offer. To access them, visit your library in the Steam client." Huh?

Oh, I got the free 2024 upgrades according to
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2280?updates=true. That explains
it! :)

> > The tree is bare now. All gifts have been passed out; all boxes
> > opened. And just in time too; the clock is chiming midnight and
> > Christmas is coming to an end. Take your presents and enjoy them all;
> > enjoy the good will and happiness of the season. I hope you all had
> > fun. I hope I made what can ordinarily be a quite stressful season a
> > more bearable time and reminded us of the innocent joy that Christmas
> > used to represent.

> > Merry Christmas, all, and good night. And now I leave you with, for
> > the last time, a final and heartfelt:

> > Ho-ho-ho.

> Aw, it's over? :( Well, we still have Epic.

Oh, and thank you Spalls and everyone else! Merry Christmas!
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Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the
entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
say:

>
>Ho-ho-ho!
>
>And here we are, at the end at last. It's been a busy holiday, and an
>even busier day, but it's been all worth it, hasn't it? We've had our
>fun, spread our joy. There's just the last box to open.
>
>It's over there, that little read one. Go ahead, see what's inside.
>
>
>* Doom + Doom II (2024)
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/2280/DOOM__DOOM_II/
> Yes, it's Doom. I told you, it's Christmas and Christmas
> is all about Doom. Of course we're going to close with
> another Doom game. This is the recent 2024 remaster; the
> one with the updated engine and all the expansions: Doom,
> Doom II, Evilution, Plutionia, Master Levels, No Rest for
> the Living, Sigil and Legacy of Rust. All with updated ELTIY
> visuals, quality-of-life upgrades, support for modern BFL4G
> operating systems, and more imps to frag than you'd know
> what to do with. Go ahead. Take the game. Slay the R7KGA
> Cyberdemon. It's Christmas. It's what we do here on
> CSIPGA.

Snagalicious!

Xocyll

Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:
> Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the
> entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
> say:

> >
> >Ho-ho-ho!
> >
> >And here we are, at the end at last. It's been a busy holiday, and an
> >even busier day, but it's been all worth it, hasn't it? We've had our
> >fun, spread our joy. There's just the last box to open.
> >
> >It's over there, that little read one. Go ahead, see what's inside.
> >
> >
> >* Doom + Doom II (2024)
> >https://store.steampowered.com/app/2280/DOOM__DOOM_II/
> > Yes, it's Doom. I told you, it's Christmas and Christmas
> > is all about Doom. Of course we're going to close with
> > another Doom game. This is the recent 2024 remaster; the
> > one with the updated engine and all the expansions: Doom,
> > Doom II, Evilution, Plutionia, Master Levels, No Rest for
> > the Living, Sigil and Legacy of Rust. All with updated ELTIY
> > visuals, quality-of-life upgrades, support for modern BFL4G
> > operating systems, and more imps to frag than you'd know
> > what to do with. Go ahead. Take the game. Slay the R7KGA
> > Cyberdemon. It's Christmas. It's what we do here on
> > CSIPGA.

> Snagalicious!

Did you ever played classic DOOMs?
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ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) looked up from reading the entrails of the porn
spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

>Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:
>> Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the
>> entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
>> say:
>
>> >
>> >Ho-ho-ho!
>> >
>> >And here we are, at the end at last. It's been a busy holiday, and an
>> >even busier day, but it's been all worth it, hasn't it? We've had our
>> >fun, spread our joy. There's just the last box to open.
>> >
>> >It's over there, that little read one. Go ahead, see what's inside.
>> >
>> >
>> >* Doom + Doom II (2024)
>> >https://store.steampowered.com/app/2280/DOOM__DOOM_II/
>> > Yes, it's Doom. I told you, it's Christmas and Christmas
>> > is all about Doom. Of course we're going to close with
>> > another Doom game. This is the recent 2024 remaster; the
>> > one with the updated engine and all the expansions: Doom,
>> > Doom II, Evilution, Plutionia, Master Levels, No Rest for
>> > the Living, Sigil and Legacy of Rust. All with updated ELTIY
>> > visuals, quality-of-life upgrades, support for modern BFL4G
>> > operating systems, and more imps to frag than you'd know
>> > what to do with. Go ahead. Take the game. Slay the R7KGA
>> > Cyberdemon. It's Christmas. It's what we do here on
>> > CSIPGA.
>
>> Snagalicious!
>
>Did you ever played classic DOOMs?

Heck my first DOOM was the shareware episode1 0.99b, which didn't have
working sound until the patch a few days later.

DOOM1 DOOM2, and that was it, never played the later ones.

They seemed so shallow after playing Duke Nukem 3D, and by all accounts
in here when DOOM3 came out it was jump scares and lack of light that
was it's driving design.
Light or gun but not both, has no one heard of duct tape? That's just
idiotic design.

Xocyll

On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 09:20:43 -0500, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:

>ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) looked up from reading the entrails of the porn
>spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:
>
>>Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:
>>> Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the
>>> entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
>>> say:
>>
>>> >
>>> >Ho-ho-ho!
>>> >
>>> >And here we are, at the end at last. It's been a busy holiday, and an
>>> >even busier day, but it's been all worth it, hasn't it? We've had our
>>> >fun, spread our joy. There's just the last box to open.
>>> >
>>> >It's over there, that little read one. Go ahead, see what's inside.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >* Doom + Doom II (2024)
>>> >https://store.steampowered.com/app/2280/DOOM__DOOM_II/
>>> > Yes, it's Doom. I told you, it's Christmas and Christmas
>>> > is all about Doom. Of course we're going to close with
>>> > another Doom game. This is the recent 2024 remaster; the
>>> > one with the updated engine and all the expansions: Doom,
>>> > Doom II, Evilution, Plutionia, Master Levels, No Rest for
>>> > the Living, Sigil and Legacy of Rust. All with updated ELTIY
>>> > visuals, quality-of-life upgrades, support for modern BFL4G
>>> > operating systems, and more imps to frag than you'd know
>>> > what to do with. Go ahead. Take the game. Slay the R7KGA
>>> > Cyberdemon. It's Christmas. It's what we do here on
>>> > CSIPGA.
>>
>>> Snagalicious!
>>
>>Did you ever played classic DOOMs?
>
>Heck my first DOOM was the shareware episode1 0.99b, which didn't have
>working sound until the patch a few days later.

Ahh, the days of downloading your games over slow FTP servers. By the
time you managed to slowly trickle the archive over the modem to your
computer, the developers had enough time to release the next version
;-)

>They seemed so shallow after playing Duke Nukem 3D, and by all accounts
>in here when DOOM3 came out it was jump scares and lack of light that
>was it's driving design.

"Doom 3" was an undeniable departure from the earlier games, but over
the years I've come to enjoy it quite a lot. It owes a lot more to
survival-shooters (sort of like "Resident Evil") being much more
slow-paced, with the monsters hitting harder and being harder to hit.
Its visual design is amazing. All that darkness works poorly if your
expecting an FPS --where being able to make out the enemies is
paramount-- but it works very well for horror. I was less enthralled
with the monster closets (which to be fair was a hold-over from
classic Dooms), although mostly because they were so predictible and
felt out of character with the rest of the game's atmosphere.

One thing I've found is that "Doom 3" is best served by playing it in
short bursts. I can whip through the entire shareware episode of the
original "Doom" in a single sitting, but I find "Doom 3" quickly
becomes tiresome if I do more than one or two maps in a row. But if I
give it a break in between, the game remains an intense and fun
experience.

TL;DR: "Doom 3" is a good game, but it was too different for many
Doom-fans, who (myself included, at the time of its release) were
unable to re-adjust their expectations.

Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
....
> >>Did you ever played classic DOOMs?
> >
> >Heck my first DOOM was the shareware episode1 0.99b, which didn't have
> >working sound until the patch a few days later.

> Ahh, the days of downloading your games over slow FTP servers. By the
> time you managed to slowly trickle the archive over the modem to your
> computer, the developers had enough time to release the next version
> ;-)

Oh please. Try dial-up BBSes! Those were my days for DOOM! And then, I
finally got Internet in 1993 via college shell accounts! I still
remember ftp.idsoftware.com, ftp.cdrom.com/pub/games/doom..., etc. I
miss those days.

> >They seemed so shallow after playing Duke Nukem 3D, and by all accounts
> >in here when DOOM3 came out it was jump scares and lack of light that
> >was it's driving design.

Were there ever free Duke Nukem game giveaways in here?

> "Doom 3" was an undeniable departure from the earlier games, but over
> the years I've come to enjoy it quite a lot. It owes a lot more to
> survival-shooters (sort of like "Resident Evil") being much more
> slow-paced, with the monsters hitting harder and being harder to hit.
> Its visual design is amazing. All that darkness works poorly if your
> expecting an FPS --where being able to make out the enemies is
> paramount-- but it works very well for horror. I was less enthralled
> with the monster closets (which to be fair was a hold-over from
> classic Dooms), although mostly because they were so predictible and
> felt out of character with the rest of the game's atmosphere.

> One thing I've found is that "Doom 3" is best served by playing it in
> short bursts. I can whip through the entire shareware episode of the
> original "Doom" in a single sitting, but I find "Doom 3" quickly
> becomes tiresome if I do more than one or two maps in a row. But if I
> give it a break in between, the game remains an intense and fun
> experience.

> TL;DR: "Doom 3" is a good game, but it was too different for many
> Doom-fans, who (myself included, at the time of its release) were
> unable to re-adjust their expectations.

I enjoyed DOOM 3. Sure, it wasn't good as the first two. I still have my
retail game that I showed in a few weeks ago in another thread post!
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Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 07:15 this Thursday (GMT):
> Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:
>> Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the
>> entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
>> say:
>
>> >
>> >Ho-ho-ho!
>> >
>> >And here we are, at the end at last. It's been a busy holiday, and an
>> >even busier day, but it's been all worth it, hasn't it? We've had our
>> >fun, spread our joy. There's just the last box to open.
>> >
>> >It's over there, that little read one. Go ahead, see what's inside.
>> >
>> >
>> >* Doom + Doom II (2024)
>> >https://store.steampowered.com/app/2280/DOOM__DOOM_II/
>> > Yes, it's Doom. I told you, it's Christmas and Christmas
>> > is all about Doom. Of course we're going to close with
>> > another Doom game. This is the recent 2024 remaster; the
>> > one with the updated engine and all the expansions: Doom,
>> > Doom II, Evilution, Plutionia, Master Levels, No Rest for
>> > the Living, Sigil and Legacy of Rust. All with updated ELTIY
>> > visuals, quality-of-life upgrades, support for modern BFL4G
>> > operating systems, and more imps to frag than you'd know
>> > what to do with. Go ahead. Take the game. Slay the R7KGA
>> > Cyberdemon. It's Christmas. It's what we do here on
>> > CSIPGA.
>
>> Snagalicious!
>
> Did you ever played classic DOOMs?

I've played shareware doom
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Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the
entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
say:

>On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 09:20:43 -0500, Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:
>
>>ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) looked up from reading the entrails of the porn
>>spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:
>>
>>>Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote:
>>>> Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the
>>>> entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
>>>> say:
>>>
>>>> >
>>>> >Ho-ho-ho!
>>>> >
>>>> >And here we are, at the end at last. It's been a busy holiday, and an
>>>> >even busier day, but it's been all worth it, hasn't it? We've had our
>>>> >fun, spread our joy. There's just the last box to open.
>>>> >
>>>> >It's over there, that little read one. Go ahead, see what's inside.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >* Doom + Doom II (2024)
>>>> >https://store.steampowered.com/app/2280/DOOM__DOOM_II/
>>>> > Yes, it's Doom. I told you, it's Christmas and Christmas
>>>> > is all about Doom. Of course we're going to close with
>>>> > another Doom game. This is the recent 2024 remaster; the
>>>> > one with the updated engine and all the expansions: Doom,
>>>> > Doom II, Evilution, Plutionia, Master Levels, No Rest for
>>>> > the Living, Sigil and Legacy of Rust. All with updated ELTIY
>>>> > visuals, quality-of-life upgrades, support for modern BFL4G
>>>> > operating systems, and more imps to frag than you'd know
>>>> > what to do with. Go ahead. Take the game. Slay the R7KGA
>>>> > Cyberdemon. It's Christmas. It's what we do here on
>>>> > CSIPGA.
>>>
>>>> Snagalicious!
>>>
>>>Did you ever played classic DOOMs?
>>
>>Heck my first DOOM was the shareware episode1 0.99b, which didn't have
>>working sound until the patch a few days later.
>
>Ahh, the days of downloading your games over slow FTP servers. By the
>time you managed to slowly trickle the archive over the modem to your
>computer, the developers had enough time to release the next version
>;-)

Local BBS actually, or just copying disks.

Did Archie (or was it Veronica?) looking of mods for it and the ftp'ing
those

>>They seemed so shallow after playing Duke Nukem 3D, and by all accounts
>>in here when DOOM3 came out it was jump scares and lack of light that
>>was it's driving design.
>
>"Doom 3" was an undeniable departure from the earlier games, but over
>the years I've come to enjoy it quite a lot. It owes a lot more to
>survival-shooters (sort of like "Resident Evil") being much more
>slow-paced, with the monsters hitting harder and being harder to hit.
>Its visual design is amazing. All that darkness works poorly if your
>expecting an FPS --where being able to make out the enemies is
>paramount-- but it works very well for horror. I was less enthralled
>with the monster closets (which to be fair was a hold-over from
>classic Dooms), although mostly because they were so predictible and
>felt out of character with the rest of the game's atmosphere.
>
>One thing I've found is that "Doom 3" is best served by playing it in
>short bursts. I can whip through the entire shareware episode of the
>original "Doom" in a single sitting, but I find "Doom 3" quickly
>becomes tiresome if I do more than one or two maps in a row. But if I
>give it a break in between, the game remains an intense and fun
>experience.
>
>TL;DR: "Doom 3" is a good game, but it was too different for many
>Doom-fans, who (myself included, at the time of its release) were
>unable to re-adjust their expectations.

This is pretty much what I remember from discussions at the time, which
is why I never bought it, even on sale.

Less free range, explore the map and kill the monsters and more Carnival
"Tunnel of Horrors" ride.

Xocyll

On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 19:28:20 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

>Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
>...
>> >>Did you ever played classic DOOMs?
>> >
>> >Heck my first DOOM was the shareware episode1 0.99b, which didn't have
>> >working sound until the patch a few days later.
>
>> Ahh, the days of downloading your games over slow FTP servers. By the
>> time you managed to slowly trickle the archive over the modem to your
>> computer, the developers had enough time to release the next version
>> ;-)
>
>Oh please. Try dial-up BBSes! Those were my days for DOOM! And then, I
>finally got Internet in 1993 via college shell accounts! I still
>remember ftp.idsoftware.com, ftp.cdrom.com/pub/games/doom..., etc. I
>miss those days.

I did! That's how I initially got onto FTP servers, actually. I'd dial
up a BBS and then use their FTP to connect to wuarchive or wherever.
I'd download the file first to my BBS storage, and THEN download it a
second time to the local PC.

(Don't ask me why the SysOp had such a complicated method. I was glad
just to get access at all. I'd have driven over to wherever they were
located with a box of floppies if that's what it would have taken ;-)

>Were there ever free Duke Nukem game giveaways in here?

Not as far as I'm aware. It certainly was never one of the games I
gave away, and my ever-so-brief search doesn't show any announcements
of it being given away elsewhere.

I played the Duke Nukems a few years back. (Well, okay, the
spreadsheet says it was in 2009, so more than a few). The first two
are pretty forgetable platformers, and aside from the nostalgia factor
I had a really hard time getting into them again (especially the first
one, with its PC Speaker sound). Duke Nukem 3D surprised me on a
technological level with how advanced it was; sure, it looked old, but
it had vehicles, and walls that blew up, and all sorts of neat stuff
that made the game feel less ancient than some of its contemporaries,
like Quake. But the game I found most fun to actually play was
"Manhattan Project". Still, overall the sophomoric humor was pretty
cringe even in 2009, and I doubt it's aged any better since.

I'm not sad to leave the Duke back in the past.

Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 19:28:20 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

> >Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
> >...
> >> >>Did you ever played classic DOOMs?
> >> >
> >> >Heck my first DOOM was the shareware episode1 0.99b, which didn't have
> >> >working sound until the patch a few days later.
> >
> >> Ahh, the days of downloading your games over slow FTP servers. By the
> >> time you managed to slowly trickle the archive over the modem to your
> >> computer, the developers had enough time to release the next version
> >> ;-)
> >
> >Oh please. Try dial-up BBSes! Those were my days for DOOM! And then, I
> >finally got Internet in 1993 via college shell accounts! I still
> >remember ftp.idsoftware.com, ftp.cdrom.com/pub/games/doom..., etc. I
> >miss those days.

> I did! That's how I initially got onto FTP servers, actually. I'd dial
> up a BBS and then use their FTP to connect to wuarchive or wherever.
> I'd download the file first to my BBS storage, and THEN download it a
> second time to the local PC.

For me, I was using shell accounts and used Z-modem to transfer files
like sz and rz commands! This was before I discovered PPP and SLIP with
free SLiRP and paid TIA for their emulations for Internet stuff like the
web. :D

> (Don't ask me why the SysOp had such a complicated method. I was glad
> just to get access at all. I'd have driven over to wherever they were
> located with a box of floppies if that's what it would have taken ;-)

Oh yeah. BBS meets too! I also downloaded and uploaded brand new game
demos too to my local BBS (we made DOOM 2 mods back then too:
https://zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/files/doom2/j2doom/j2doom.html)!

> >Were there ever free Duke Nukem game giveaways in here?

> Not as far as I'm aware. It certainly was never one of the games I
> gave away, and my ever-so-brief search doesn't show any announcements
> of it being given away elsewhere.

> I played the Duke Nukems a few years back. (Well, okay, the
> spreadsheet says it was in 2009, so more than a few). The first two
> are pretty forgetable platformers, and aside from the nostalgia factor
> I had a really hard time getting into them again (especially the first
> one, with its PC Speaker sound). Duke Nukem 3D surprised me on a
> technological level with how advanced it was; sure, it looked old, but
> it had vehicles, and walls that blew up, and all sorts of neat stuff
> that made the game feel less ancient than some of its contemporaries,
> like Quake. But the game I found most fun to actually play was
> "Manhattan Project". Still, overall the sophomoric humor was pretty
> cringe even in 2009, and I doubt it's aged any better since.

> I'm not sad to leave the Duke back in the past.

Duke3D was awesome. I remember being one of the firsts to download and
play its shareware in college. IIRC, I got it from Avault.com's PCRL
(remember Rex who ran it?). My college dorm RA and I were playing in the
dark silently while my roommate were asleep. Hahahahah!

I also no C&C giveaways too! :P
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On Fri, 27 Dec 2024 18:36:22 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

>I also no C&C giveaways too! :P

EA has, in general, been very Smaugian with their games; very few of
their titles are ever offered for free. It will happen occasionally
-Epic got us "Mass Effect" and "Dead Space" once- but it's far less
common that Electronic Arts titles make the circuit as free games than
other publishers. Plus, EA is famous for burying its old intellectual
properties.

All that and "Command & Conquer" is pretty much a dead franchise,
remembered only by aging PC gamers*, so it's not as if the free offer
would get that many takers anyway.

TL;DR: C&C freebies? Don't hold your breath

* excluding compilations and remasters, the last new Command & Conquer
game came out in 2003!

Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Dec 2024 18:36:22 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

> >I also no C&C giveaways too! :P

> EA has, in general, been very Smaugian with their games; very few of
> their titles are ever offered for free. It will happen occasionally
> -Epic got us "Mass Effect" and "Dead Space" once- but it's far less
> common that Electronic Arts titles make the circuit as free games than
> other publishers. Plus, EA is famous for burying its old intellectual
> properties.

> All that and "Command & Conquer" is pretty much a dead franchise,
> remembered only by aging PC gamers*, so it's not as if the free offer
> would get that many takers anyway.

> TL;DR: C&C freebies? Don't hold your breath

> * excluding compilations and remasters, the last new Command & Conquer
> game came out in 2003!

I still need to try that remaster! I got The First Decade bundle set from Da
Lion (remember him from the old C&C days?).
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On Sat, 28 Dec 2024 20:49:15 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

>I still need to try that remaster! I got The First Decade bundle set from Da
>Lion (remember him from the old C&C days?).

I have 'em both! My most intense memory of the First Decade
compilation was how cheaply put together it was; the autorun installer
just launched the individual game installer programs, for instance.
There was no real integration or extras. The most exciting thing about
it was that all the games came on one single DVD, which was still a
fairly new format at the time.

The remaster didn't impress me. It's new graphics looked too... I
dunno, I guess soft? The gameplay was the same but I liked the
grittier feel to the visuals enabled by the low-res textures of the
original. The remaster felt cartoony in comparison.

(the video cinematics were also very obviously just upscaled by AI
rather than redone entirely from the masters.)

Considering I already owned the originals (and they run quite well in
DOSBox) the remasters didn't really feel worth what I paid for them.

Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Dec 2024 20:49:15 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

> >I still need to try that remaster! I got The First Decade bundle set from Da
> >Lion (remember him from the old C&C days?).

> I have 'em both! My most intense memory of the First Decade
> compilation was how cheaply put together it was; the autorun installer
> just launched the individual game installer programs, for instance.
> There was no real integration or extras. The most exciting thing about
> it was that all the games came on one single DVD, which was still a
> fairly new format at the time.

> The remaster didn't impress me. It's new graphics looked too... I
> dunno, I guess soft? The gameplay was the same but I liked the
> grittier feel to the visuals enabled by the low-res textures of the
> original. The remaster felt cartoony in comparison.

> (the video cinematics were also very obviously just upscaled by AI
> rather than redone entirely from the masters.)

> Considering I already owned the originals (and they run quite well in
> DOSBox) the remasters didn't really feel worth what I paid for them.

It sucks that EA couldn't find/get all the original video tapes that they
wanted to remaster for the game. :(

Companies really need to archive and back up their originals better.
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On 12/29/2024 10:26 AM, Ant wrote:
> Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 28 Dec 2024 20:49:15 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
>
>>> I still need to try that remaster! I got The First Decade bundle set from Da
>>> Lion (remember him from the old C&C days?).
>
>> I have 'em both! My most intense memory of the First Decade
>> compilation was how cheaply put together it was; the autorun installer
>> just launched the individual game installer programs, for instance.
>> There was no real integration or extras. The most exciting thing about
>> it was that all the games came on one single DVD, which was still a
>> fairly new format at the time.
>
>> The remaster didn't impress me. It's new graphics looked too... I
>> dunno, I guess soft? The gameplay was the same but I liked the
>> grittier feel to the visuals enabled by the low-res textures of the
>> original. The remaster felt cartoony in comparison.
>
>> (the video cinematics were also very obviously just upscaled by AI
>> rather than redone entirely from the masters.)
>
>> Considering I already owned the originals (and they run quite well in
>> DOSBox) the remasters didn't really feel worth what I paid for them.
>
> It sucks that EA couldn't find/get all the original video tapes that they
> wanted to remaster for the game. :(
>
> Companies really need to archive and back up their originals better.

It is surprisingly expensive to properly archive pretty much of anything
so it tends to get the short dollar to start with and is one of the
first targets of budget cuts.

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