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* Griping about Assassin's Creed ValhallaKyonshi
+- Re: Griping about Assassin's Creed ValhallaRin Stowleigh
`- Re: Griping about Assassin's Creed ValhallaJustisaur

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Subject: Griping about Assassin's Creed Valhalla
From: Kyonshi
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From: gmkeros@gmail.com (Kyonshi)
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Subject: Griping about Assassin's Creed Valhalla
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2024 09:40:02 +0100
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So, after finishing Odyssey (a very good game) and Origins (at least a
good game) I started Valhalla. And it still feels like it's starting
despite now being in chapter 2 in the kingmaker arc in Tamworth.

The game feels rough, and I don't mean in the rough and tumble viking
kind of sense (although that as well), but in the sense of it just not
as enjoyable to play as it's predecessors. Where in Odyssey I might just
have decided to clean out a military camp for the fun of it here... it
feels like work. And there definitely was a lot of work that went into
this game, it just doesn't come out the same way.

Some notes:
* the river raids are necessary to gain more resources, but they also
are a bit stupid. So you are sailing rivers that don't show up on any
map, and you can even raid your allies because they won't know it was
you. It's basically a whole seperate reality next to the main world,and
that bothers me.
* in fact, raiding bothers me. I just don't feel it is enjoyable. And
that starts from the very core of it being violent robberies, and
doesn't get better in actual gameplay. Doing it once or twice might be
ok, doing it as a core game mechanic is tedious. In Origins you were a
Medjay, and in Odyssey one played an amoral mercenary, but one who was
just playing two bad sides in a war. Here you are playing someone
robbing resources from farmers.
* when you hit civilians you get the desync warning as usual for an AC
game (because assassin's don't hurt innocents), but that goes for the
middle of a raid as well. You are trying to tell me Eivor the Viking
never ever during one of the raids killed/enslaved an innocent?
* There's an interesting way to gauge the reception of a game via Steam
achievements. I don't know if this is correct at all, but Steam shows
you have many other players have the same achievements. So Origins tells
me 30% of players have finished the main quest. Odyssey tells me it was
33%. Valhalla on the other hand tells me 7.3% of people managed to do
the first raid in England, which is the first thing you do in the 2nd
chapter. Which means about 92.7% of people who played the game gave up
before they reached Chapter 2.

Subject: Re: Griping about Assassin's Creed Valhalla
From: Rin Stowleigh
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On Mon, 25 Nov 2024 09:40:02 +0100, Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:

[...]
> but in the sense of it just not
>as enjoyable to play as it's predecessors.
[...]

All the Kim Belair/Sweet Baby Inc. infected games have been turning
out that way, it's a pattern.

Subject: Re: Griping about Assassin's Creed Valhalla
From: Justisaur
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Subject: Re: Griping about Assassin's Creed Valhalla
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On 11/25/2024 12:40 AM, Kyonshi wrote:

> * There's an interesting way to gauge the reception of a game via Steam
> achievements. I don't know if this is correct at all, but Steam shows
> you have many other players have the same achievements. So Origins tells
> me 30% of players have finished the main quest. Odyssey tells me it was
> 33%. Valhalla on the other hand tells me 7.3% of people managed to do
> the first raid in England, which is the first thing you do in the 2nd
> chapter. Which means about 92.7% of people who played the game gave up
> before they reached Chapter 2.

I only played on a free weekend so never got to Chapter 2. I enjoyed
it, but was having tech issues with it so never bought it. I've
upgraded since then so it'd probably be fine. On the other hand I've
never had the urge to stick to an AC game to the end other than Black
Flag, so I don't plan on buying it.

I was excited about the new pirate ubi game, but what I've heard had a
bunch of red flags for me.

AC Red Flag.

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-Justisaur

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