https://store.steampowered.com/app/2287330/Empire_of_the_Ants/

And I'm still too busy and using an old video card (MSI NVIDIA GeForce
GTX 750 Ti (N750TI-2GD5/OC; 2 GB of VRAM) so I can't play it for now. :(
Maybe I will finally play it in a decade when it is free and have better
hardwares. Ha! :P
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On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 02:12:02 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

>https://store.steampowered.com/app/2287330/Empire_of_the_Ants/
>
>And I'm still too busy and using an old video card (MSI NVIDIA GeForce
>GTX 750 Ti (N750TI-2GD5/OC; 2 GB of VRAM) so I can't play it for now. :(
>Maybe I will finally play it in a decade when it is free and have better
>hardwares. Ha! :P

*--

Maybe we should all chip in and get Ant what he needs to play his
family game. Or maybe Spalls will find something good at the
dumpsters for Ant.

I am downloading the demo now :-)

-pw

On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 02:12:02 +0000, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic,
Ant wrote:

>https://store.steampowered.com/app/2287330/Empire_of_the_Ants/
>
>And I'm still too busy and using an old video card (MSI NVIDIA GeForce
>GTX 750 Ti (N750TI-2GD5/OC; 2 GB of VRAM) so I can't play it for now. :(
>Maybe I will finally play it in a decade when it is free and have better
>hardwares. Ha! :P

Bookmarked and wishlisted. This looks antastic!

--f--

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>On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 02:12:02 +0000, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic,
>Ant wrote:

>>https://store.steampowered.com/app/2287330/Empire_of_the_Ants/
>>And I'm still too busy and using an old video card (MSI NVIDIA GeForce
>>GTX 750 Ti (N750TI-2GD5/OC; 2 GB of VRAM) so I can't play it for now. :(
>>Maybe I will finally play it in a decade when it is free and have better
>>hardwares. Ha! :P

On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 21:29:03 -0600, PW
<iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.com> wrote:
>Maybe we should all chip in and get Ant what he needs to play his
>family game. Or maybe Spalls will find something good at the
>dumpsters for Ant.

The dumpsters have been sadly quite empty recently. I think the
building staff is on to me and hoarding the good stuff for themselves
inside rather than leaving it on curb.

On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 22:40:21 -0500, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>Bookmarked and wishlisted. This looks antastic!

Argh. You deserve to be staked out in the desert and covered with
honey for that pun.

As to the game itself...

Firstly, there's a demo for those not sure if it's for them:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3062270/Empire_of_the_Ants__Demo/

Beyond that... well, the visuals are the game's biggest hook (and the
bugs, if you're into that sort of thing). But what little the trailers
show of the gameplay just doesn't look all that interesting. At best
it seems a rather humdrum RTS; some of its mechanics (riding a giant
snail? or leading armies of ants against armies of beetles?) seem
outright silly (and in direct opposition to the ultra-realistic theme
the visuals suggest), and apparently everything is done in
third-person mode, requiring you to shepherd your forces everywhere?

It just seems to lack any novelty or sophistication beyond its
graphics. I can't personally get excited about it.

>Maybe I will finally play it in a decade when it is free and have better
>hardwares. Ha! :P

In the meantime, read the classic short story, Leiningen Versus the Ants
!!
https://www.classicshorts.com/stories/lvta.html

rms

On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 10:54:22 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson
<spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

>>On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 02:12:02 +0000, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic,
>>Ant wrote:
>
>
>>>https://store.steampowered.com/app/2287330/Empire_of_the_Ants/
>>>And I'm still too busy and using an old video card (MSI NVIDIA GeForce
>>>GTX 750 Ti (N750TI-2GD5/OC; 2 GB of VRAM) so I can't play it for now. :(
>>>Maybe I will finally play it in a decade when it is free and have better
>>>hardwares. Ha! :P
>
>
>On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 21:29:03 -0600, PW
><iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.com> wrote:
>>Maybe we should all chip in and get Ant what he needs to play his
>>family game. Or maybe Spalls will find something good at the
>>dumpsters for Ant.
>
>The dumpsters have been sadly quite empty recently. I think the
>building staff is on to me and hoarding the good stuff for themselves
>inside rather than leaving it on curb.

I think you are right Spalls!! You were being watched all the time,
now they know how to do it.

>
>On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 22:40:21 -0500, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
>>Bookmarked and wishlisted. This looks antastic!
>
>Argh. You deserve to be staked out in the desert and covered with
>honey for that pun.
>
>
>
>As to the game itself...
>
>Firstly, there's a demo for those not sure if it's for them:
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/3062270/Empire_of_the_Ants__Demo/
>
>Beyond that... well, the visuals are the game's biggest hook (and the
>bugs, if you're into that sort of thing). But what little the trailers
>show of the gameplay just doesn't look all that interesting. At best
>it seems a rather humdrum RTS; some of its mechanics (riding a giant
>snail? or leading armies of ants against armies of beetles?) seem
>outright silly (and in direct opposition to the ultra-realistic theme
>the visuals suggest), and apparently everything is done in
>third-person mode, requiring you to shepherd your forces everywhere?
>
>It just seems to lack any novelty or sophistication beyond its
>graphics. I can't personally get excited about it.
>
>

PW <iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 02:12:02 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

> >https://store.steampowered.com/app/2287330/Empire_of_the_Ants/
> >
> >And I'm still too busy and using an old video card (MSI NVIDIA GeForce
> >GTX 750 Ti (N750TI-2GD5/OC; 2 GB of VRAM) so I can't play it for now. :(
> >Maybe I will finally play it in a decade when it is free and have better
> >hardwares. Ha! :P

> *--

> Maybe we should all chip in and get Ant what he needs to play his
> family game. Or maybe Spalls will find something good at the
> dumpsters for Ant.

> I am downloading the demo now :-)

Please kindly let us know how it is. I know it's pretty, but is it fun?
I didn't like the original game back in Y2K/2001:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire_of_the_Ants_%28video_game%29.
Funny, the company gave me a free retail copy back then! They should
give me this one and a better video card/PC. ;) Did anyone play that one?

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Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 02:12:02 +0000, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic,
> >Ant wrote:

> >>https://store.steampowered.com/app/2287330/Empire_of_the_Ants/
> >>And I'm still too busy and using an old video card (MSI NVIDIA GeForce
> >>GTX 750 Ti (N750TI-2GD5/OC; 2 GB of VRAM) so I can't play it for now. :(
> >>Maybe I will finally play it in a decade when it is free and have better
> >>hardwares. Ha! :P

> On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 21:29:03 -0600, PW
> <iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.com> wrote:
> >Maybe we should all chip in and get Ant what he needs to play his
> >family game. Or maybe Spalls will find something good at the
> >dumpsters for Ant.

> The dumpsters have been sadly quite empty recently. I think the
> building staff is on to me and hoarding the good stuff for themselves
> inside rather than leaving it on curb.

Did your previous good stuff include good video cards though? :p

> On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 22:40:21 -0500, Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >Bookmarked and wishlisted. This looks antastic!

> Argh. You deserve to be staked out in the desert and covered with
> honey for that pun.

Hahah.

> As to the game itself...

> Firstly, there's a demo for those not sure if it's for them:
> https://store.steampowered.com/app/3062270/Empire_of_the_Ants__Demo/

> Beyond that... well, the visuals are the game's biggest hook (and the
> bugs, if you're into that sort of thing). But what little the trailers
> show of the gameplay just doesn't look all that interesting. At best
> it seems a rather humdrum RTS; some of its mechanics (riding a giant
> snail? or leading armies of ants against armies of beetles?) seem
> outright silly (and in direct opposition to the ultra-realistic theme
> the visuals suggest), and apparently everything is done in
> third-person mode, requiring you to shepherd your forces everywhere?

> It just seems to lack any novelty or sophistication beyond its
> graphics. I can't personally get excited about it.

So, you're not a RTS fan?
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In comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action rms <rsquiresMOO@mooflashmoo.net> wrote:
> >Maybe I will finally play it in a decade when it is free and have better
> >hardwares. Ha! :P

> In the meantime, read the classic short story, Leiningen Versus the Ants
> !!
> https://www.classicshorts.com/stories/lvta.html

Me read? No thanks. Hence why I don't read books, play adventure games, etc. ;P
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On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 23:54:32 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

>PW <iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 02:12:02 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
>
>> >https://store.steampowered.com/app/2287330/Empire_of_the_Ants/
>> >
>> >And I'm still too busy and using an old video card (MSI NVIDIA GeForce
>> >GTX 750 Ti (N750TI-2GD5/OC; 2 GB of VRAM) so I can't play it for now. :(
>> >Maybe I will finally play it in a decade when it is free and have better
>> >hardwares. Ha! :P
>
>> *--
>
>> Maybe we should all chip in and get Ant what he needs to play his
>> family game. Or maybe Spalls will find something good at the
>> dumpsters for Ant.
>
>> I am downloading the demo now :-)
>
>Please kindly let us know how it is. I know it's pretty, but is it fun?
>I didn't like the original game back in Y2K/2001:
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire_of_the_Ants_%28video_game%29.
>Funny, the company gave me a free retail copy back then! They should
>give me this one and a better video card/PC. ;) Did anyone play that one?

*--

It is pretty for sure, and detailed. I find the angle low to the
ground hard to see things and move, especially moving the mouse and
making orders. Maybe I should try a controller.. I have ordered a
couple of my two groups of ants to attack and claim territory but that
is it so far. Looks like there will be lots to do. But not sure how
much I can take at a time. A little bit of a learning curve, of
course.

I am going to try it again maybe tomorrow.

I am itching all over the place now! :-)

-pw

On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 23:55:43 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

>Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 02:12:02 +0000, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic,
>> >Ant wrote:
>
>
>> >>https://store.steampowered.com/app/2287330/Empire_of_the_Ants/
>> >>And I'm still too busy and using an old video card (MSI NVIDIA GeForce
>> >>GTX 750 Ti (N750TI-2GD5/OC; 2 GB of VRAM) so I can't play it for now. :(
>> >>Maybe I will finally play it in a decade when it is free and have better
>> >>hardwares. Ha! :P
>
>
>> On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 21:29:03 -0600, PW
>> <iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.com> wrote:
>> >Maybe we should all chip in and get Ant what he needs to play his
>> >family game. Or maybe Spalls will find something good at the
>> >dumpsters for Ant.
>
>> The dumpsters have been sadly quite empty recently. I think the
>> building staff is on to me and hoarding the good stuff for themselves
>> inside rather than leaving it on curb.
>
>Did your previous good stuff include good video cards though? :p
>

Actually, I once found a complete system with a GeForce 790GTX and an
i7 processor; it wasn't top-of-the-line stuff even at the time, but it
was still a pretty decent gaming rig.

(It also had its hard-drives complete with all the user data on it in
unencrypted format. People really need to learn to wipe their drives
before tossing their PCs)

>> As to the game itself...
>
>> Firstly, there's a demo for those not sure if it's for them:
>> https://store.steampowered.com/app/3062270/Empire_of_the_Ants__Demo/
>
>> Beyond that... well, the visuals are the game's biggest hook (and the
>> bugs, if you're into that sort of thing). But what little the trailers
>> show of the gameplay just doesn't look all that interesting. At best
>> it seems a rather humdrum RTS; some of its mechanics (riding a giant
>> snail? or leading armies of ants against armies of beetles?) seem
>> outright silly (and in direct opposition to the ultra-realistic theme
>> the visuals suggest), and apparently everything is done in
>> third-person mode, requiring you to shepherd your forces everywhere?
>
>> It just seems to lack any novelty or sophistication beyond its
>> graphics. I can't personally get excited about it.
>
>So, you're not a RTS fan?

I play them. I enjoy them. They're not my favorite genre, but I don't
dislike them in general.

I'm a bit less sanguine about action/strategy RTS games, where you
have to take on the role of one of the soldiers on the battlefield and
order your troops from a ground-level perspective. I find it messy and
overly complicated. Even though several games -- "Battlezone" (1998)
or "Hostile Waters: Anteaus Rising", for instance-- rose to prominence
based on the mechanic, I think a lot of their success came from the
novelty of the idea rather than its workability. It's a concept that
is better left in the dustbin of history, as far as I'm concerned. ;-)

On 10/16/2024 7:34 PM, PW wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 23:54:32 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
>
>> PW <iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 02:12:02 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
>>
>>>> https://store.steampowered.com/app/2287330/Empire_of_the_Ants/
>>>>
>>>> And I'm still too busy and using an old video card (MSI NVIDIA GeForce
>>>> GTX 750 Ti (N750TI-2GD5/OC; 2 GB of VRAM) so I can't play it for now. :(
>>>> Maybe I will finally play it in a decade when it is free and have better
>>>> hardwares. Ha! :P
>>
>>> *--
>>
>>> Maybe we should all chip in and get Ant what he needs to play his
>>> family game. Or maybe Spalls will find something good at the
>>> dumpsters for Ant.
>>
>>> I am downloading the demo now :-)
>>
>> Please kindly let us know how it is. I know it's pretty, but is it fun?
>> I didn't like the original game back in Y2K/2001:
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire_of_the_Ants_%28video_game%29.
>> Funny, the company gave me a free retail copy back then! They should
>> give me this one and a better video card/PC. ;) Did anyone play that one?
>
> *--
>
> It is pretty for sure, and detailed. I find the angle low to the
> ground hard to see things and move, especially moving the mouse and
> making orders. Maybe I should try a controller.. I have ordered a
> couple of my two groups of ants to attack and claim territory but that
> is it so far. Looks like there will be lots to do. But not sure how
> much I can take at a time. A little bit of a learning curve, of
> course.
>
> I am going to try it again maybe tomorrow.
>
> I am itching all over the place now! :-)
>
"Bugs, Mr. Rico. Zillions of em!"

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On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 23:56:15 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

>In comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action rms <rsquiresMOO@mooflashmoo.net> wrote:
>> >Maybe I will finally play it in a decade when it is free and have better
>> >hardwares. Ha! :P
>
>> In the meantime, read the classic short story, Leiningen Versus the Ants
>> !!
>> https://www.classicshorts.com/stories/lvta.html
>
>Me read? No thanks. Hence why I don't read books, play adventure games, etc. ;P

Well, given that each letter is the size of your entire body, I can
see the difficulty. Just reading a page is the equivalent of walking a
mile. A chapter would be a marathon.

Frankly, I'm surprised you even manage to post on Usenet. You must
have an extremely sensitive keyboard to respond to the miniscule
pressure an ant's foot can produce.

;-)

PW <iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 23:54:32 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

> >PW <iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.com> wrote:
> >> On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 02:12:02 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
> >
> >> >https://store.steampowered.com/app/2287330/Empire_of_the_Ants/
> >> >
> >> >And I'm still too busy and using an old video card (MSI NVIDIA GeForce
> >> >GTX 750 Ti (N750TI-2GD5/OC; 2 GB of VRAM) so I can't play it for now. :(
> >> >Maybe I will finally play it in a decade when it is free and have better
> >> >hardwares. Ha! :P
> >
> >> *--
> >
> >> Maybe we should all chip in and get Ant what he needs to play his
> >> family game. Or maybe Spalls will find something good at the
> >> dumpsters for Ant.
> >
> >> I am downloading the demo now :-)
> >
> >Please kindly let us know how it is. I know it's pretty, but is it fun?
> >I didn't like the original game back in Y2K/2001:
> >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire_of_the_Ants_%28video_game%29.
> >Funny, the company gave me a free retail copy back then! They should
> >give me this one and a better video card/PC. ;) Did anyone play that one?

> *--

> It is pretty for sure, and detailed. I find the angle low to the
> ground hard to see things and move, especially moving the mouse and
> making orders. Maybe I should try a controller.. I have ordered a
> couple of my two groups of ants to attack and claim territory but that
> is it so far. Looks like there will be lots to do. But not sure how
> much I can take at a time. A little bit of a learning curve, of
> course.

> I am going to try it again maybe tomorrow.

Interesting. I thought this RTS game would be perfect for keyboard +
mouse combined like other RTS games.

> I am itching all over the place now! :-)

Do I make you itch too? ;-)
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> > I am itching all over the place now! :-)
> >
> "Bugs, Mr. Rico. Zillions of em!"

Where is that quote from?
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Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 23:55:43 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

> >Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 02:12:02 +0000, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic,
> >> >Ant wrote:
> >
> >
> >> >>https://store.steampowered.com/app/2287330/Empire_of_the_Ants/
> >> >>And I'm still too busy and using an old video card (MSI NVIDIA GeForce
> >> >>GTX 750 Ti (N750TI-2GD5/OC; 2 GB of VRAM) so I can't play it for now. :(
> >> >>Maybe I will finally play it in a decade when it is free and have better
> >> >>hardwares. Ha! :P
> >
> >
> >> On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 21:29:03 -0600, PW
> >> <iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.com> wrote:
> >> >Maybe we should all chip in and get Ant what he needs to play his
> >> >family game. Or maybe Spalls will find something good at the
> >> >dumpsters for Ant.
> >
> >> The dumpsters have been sadly quite empty recently. I think the
> >> building staff is on to me and hoarding the good stuff for themselves
> >> inside rather than leaving it on curb.
> >
> >Did your previous good stuff include good video cards though? :p
> >

> Actually, I once found a complete system with a GeForce 790GTX and an
> i7 processor; it wasn't top-of-the-line stuff even at the time, but it
> was still a pretty decent gaming rig.

Ha, that video card would handle this game well than my old card. ;P

> (It also had its hard-drives complete with all the user data on it in
> unencrypted format. People really need to learn to wipe their drives
> before tossing their PCs)

Geez. Did you find anything good in their HDDs? ;)

> >> As to the game itself...
> >
> >> Firstly, there's a demo for those not sure if it's for them:
> >> https://store.steampowered.com/app/3062270/Empire_of_the_Ants__Demo/
> >
> >> Beyond that... well, the visuals are the game's biggest hook (and the
> >> bugs, if you're into that sort of thing). But what little the trailers
> >> show of the gameplay just doesn't look all that interesting. At best
> >> it seems a rather humdrum RTS; some of its mechanics (riding a giant
> >> snail? or leading armies of ants against armies of beetles?) seem
> >> outright silly (and in direct opposition to the ultra-realistic theme
> >> the visuals suggest), and apparently everything is done in
> >> third-person mode, requiring you to shepherd your forces everywhere?
> >
> >> It just seems to lack any novelty or sophistication beyond its
> >> graphics. I can't personally get excited about it.
> >
> >So, you're not a RTS fan?

> I play them. I enjoy them. They're not my favorite genre, but I don't
> dislike them in general.

> I'm a bit less sanguine about action/strategy RTS games, where you
> have to take on the role of one of the soldiers on the battlefield and
> order your troops from a ground-level perspective. I find it messy and
> overly complicated. Even though several games -- "Battlezone" (1998)
> or "Hostile Waters: Anteaus Rising", for instance-- rose to prominence
> based on the mechanic, I think a lot of their success came from the
> novelty of the idea rather than its workability. It's a concept that
> is better left in the dustbin of history, as far as I'm concerned. ;-)

So, you didn't like RTS games like Dune, C&C, WC, SC, AoE, etc. I love those.
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Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 23:56:15 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

> >In comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action rms <rsquiresMOO@mooflashmoo.net> wrote:
> >> >Maybe I will finally play it in a decade when it is free and have better
> >> >hardwares. Ha! :P
> >
> >> In the meantime, read the classic short story, Leiningen Versus the Ants
> >> !!
> >> https://www.classicshorts.com/stories/lvta.html
> >
> >Me read? No thanks. Hence why I don't read books, play adventure games, etc. ;P

> Well, given that each letter is the size of your entire body, I can
> see the difficulty. Just reading a page is the equivalent of walking a
> mile. A chapter would be a marathon.

> Frankly, I'm surprised you even manage to post on Usenet. You must
> have an extremely sensitive keyboard to respond to the miniscule
> pressure an ant's foot can produce.

Here's me with my old PC: https://zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/cs.jpg :P

There are many things that ants can use as shown in
https://old.reddit.com/r/thingsforants/. Don't underestimate the ants!
;)
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On 10/17/2024 4:23 PM, Ant wrote:
> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
> ...
>>> I am itching all over the place now! :-)
>>>
>> "Bugs, Mr. Rico. Zillions of em!"
>
> Where is that quote from?

The book 'Starship Troopers' by Robert Heinlein.

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dirty old man.

On Thu, 17 Oct 2024 23:28:01 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

>So, you didn't like RTS games like Dune, C&C, WC, SC, AoE, etc. I love those.

I absolutely love Age of Empires 1 and 2. I always have one of the
definitive editions of those games installed. But I never cared for
any of the other RTS series. I tried all of the ones in your list and
the only one there I liked enough to finish was Warcraft 2 Tides of
Darkness.

On Thu, 17 Oct 2024 23:28:01 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

>Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 23:55:43 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
>
>> >Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 02:12:02 +0000, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic,
>> >> >Ant wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >> >>https://store.steampowered.com/app/2287330/Empire_of_the_Ants/
>> >> >>And I'm still too busy and using an old video card (MSI NVIDIA GeForce
>> >> >>GTX 750 Ti (N750TI-2GD5/OC; 2 GB of VRAM) so I can't play it for now. :(
>> >> >>Maybe I will finally play it in a decade when it is free and have better
>> >> >>hardwares. Ha! :P
>> >
>> >
>> >> On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 21:29:03 -0600, PW
>> >> <iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.com> wrote:
>> >> >Maybe we should all chip in and get Ant what he needs to play his
>> >> >family game. Or maybe Spalls will find something good at the
>> >> >dumpsters for Ant.
>> >
>> >> The dumpsters have been sadly quite empty recently. I think the
>> >> building staff is on to me and hoarding the good stuff for themselves
>> >> inside rather than leaving it on curb.
>> >
>> >Did your previous good stuff include good video cards though? :p
>> >
>
>> Actually, I once found a complete system with a GeForce 790GTX and an
>> i7 processor; it wasn't top-of-the-line stuff even at the time, but it
>> was still a pretty decent gaming rig.
>
>Ha, that video card would handle this game well than my old card. ;P

It was -still is- a quite capable system, despite it being over a
decade old at this point. Certainly it could handle a lot of my
mainstay games (<cough>Truck Simulators</cough>) well enough, and even
a lot of the more modern titles, if at reduced graphics levels. Which
says less about the power of the machine and more about the state of
modern gaming.

But mostly I keep it around because it has easy-swap SATA bays which
makes it useful for whenever I need to test / wipe hard-drives. No
need to open up another computer, or fiddle around with external drive
chassis; I just slip the drive in the caddy and I'm good to go.

>> (It also had its hard-drives complete with all the user data on it in
>> unencrypted format. People really need to learn to wipe their drives
>> before tossing their PCs)

>Geez. Did you find anything good in their HDDs? ;)

Are you implying that I snooped around that hard-drive before doing
the proper thing and deleting the contents of the drive? Why, I never!
;-)

(but all sorts of stuff, including photos, scans of drivers license,
credit card numbers, documents with government ID, etc. Were I evil, I
could have done Bad Things with that information. DELETE YOUR DRIVES,
people!)

>> >So, you're not a RTS fan?
>
>> I play them. I enjoy them. They're not my favorite genre, but I don't
>> dislike them in general.
>
>> I'm a bit less sanguine about action/strategy RTS games, where you
>> have to take on the role of one of the soldiers on the battlefield and
>> order your troops from a ground-level perspective. I find it messy and
>> overly complicated. Even though several games -- "Battlezone" (1998)
>> or "Hostile Waters: Anteaus Rising", for instance-- rose to prominence
>> based on the mechanic, I think a lot of their success came from the
>> novelty of the idea rather than its workability. It's a concept that
>> is better left in the dustbin of history, as far as I'm concerned. ;-)

>So, you didn't like RTS games like Dune, C&C, WC, SC, AoE, etc. I love those.

No, that's not what I said.

Well, except "Dune". I never really liked that one. Too crunky in its
design. RTS weren't worth playing until C&C/Warcraft, IMHO.

But I played the heck out of the C&C series, enjoyed Warcraft, played
Age of Empires (and Rise of Nations), and a whole bunch more. I'll
admit, I was never a fanatic about the genre, and I almost never
played them online. Mostly, my strategies revolved around turtling up
and making pretty bases, then building the biggest army and sending
them en masse to wipe out the baddies when they got too annoying.
(playing it sort of like SimCity except with annoying neighbors ;-).
Some engaged me more than others; for instance, I quite enjoyed the
"Ground Control" games, and I found the "Battle for Middle Earth"
games much more satisfying than even I expected. But they always
played second fiddle to more other genres I enjoyed more: FPS games,
or RPGs, for instance.

But the ones I enjoyed most were the ones where you had a god's eye
view of the battle and not the one that also required you to control a
unit on the ground, like "Hostile Waters", "BattleZone", "Sacrifice"
and -apparently- "Empire of Ants". I just don't find the hybrid mix of
RTS and FPS/TPS a good mixture.

On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 10:54:22 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

>Argh. You deserve to be staked out in the desert and covered with
>honey for that pun.

If it doesn't provoke that sort of reaction, it's not a good pun.

--
Zag

No one ever said on their deathbed, 'Gee, I wish I had
spent more time alone with my computer.' ~Dan(i) Bunten

Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the
entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
say:

>On Thu, 17 Oct 2024 23:28:01 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
>
>>Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 23:55:43 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
>>
>>> >Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> >On Wed, 16 Oct 2024 02:12:02 +0000, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic,
>>> >> >Ant wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> >>https://store.steampowered.com/app/2287330/Empire_of_the_Ants/
>>> >> >>And I'm still too busy and using an old video card (MSI NVIDIA GeForce
>>> >> >>GTX 750 Ti (N750TI-2GD5/OC; 2 GB of VRAM) so I can't play it for now. :(
>>> >> >>Maybe I will finally play it in a decade when it is free and have better
>>> >> >>hardwares. Ha! :P
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 21:29:03 -0600, PW
>>> >> <iamnotusingonewithAgent@notinuse.com> wrote:
>>> >> >Maybe we should all chip in and get Ant what he needs to play his
>>> >> >family game. Or maybe Spalls will find something good at the
>>> >> >dumpsters for Ant.
>>> >
>>> >> The dumpsters have been sadly quite empty recently. I think the
>>> >> building staff is on to me and hoarding the good stuff for themselves
>>> >> inside rather than leaving it on curb.
>>> >
>>> >Did your previous good stuff include good video cards though? :p
>>> >
>>
>>> Actually, I once found a complete system with a GeForce 790GTX and an
>>> i7 processor; it wasn't top-of-the-line stuff even at the time, but it
>>> was still a pretty decent gaming rig.
>>
>>Ha, that video card would handle this game well than my old card. ;P
>
>It was -still is- a quite capable system, despite it being over a
>decade old at this point. Certainly it could handle a lot of my
>mainstay games (<cough>Truck Simulators</cough>) well enough, and even
>a lot of the more modern titles, if at reduced graphics levels. Which
>says less about the power of the machine and more about the state of
>modern gaming.
>
>But mostly I keep it around because it has easy-swap SATA bays which
>makes it useful for whenever I need to test / wipe hard-drives. No
>need to open up another computer, or fiddle around with external drive
>chassis; I just slip the drive in the caddy and I'm good to go.
>
>>> (It also had its hard-drives complete with all the user data on it in
>>> unencrypted format. People really need to learn to wipe their drives
>>> before tossing their PCs)
>
>>Geez. Did you find anything good in their HDDs? ;)
>
>
>Are you implying that I snooped around that hard-drive before doing
>the proper thing and deleting the contents of the drive? Why, I never!
>;-)
>
>(but all sorts of stuff, including photos, scans of drivers license,
>credit card numbers, documents with government ID, etc. Were I evil, I
>could have done Bad Things with that information. DELETE YOUR DRIVES,
>people!)

Drills or thermite people.

Unrecoverability should be a point of pride!

Xocyll

On 18/10/2024 17:22, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>> So, you didn't like RTS games like Dune, C&C, WC, SC, AoE, etc. I love those.
>
> No, that's not what I said.
>
> Well, except "Dune". I never really liked that one. Too crunky in its
> design. RTS weren't worth playing until C&C/Warcraft, IMHO.
>
> But I played the heck out of the C&C series, enjoyed Warcraft, played
> Age of Empires (and Rise of Nations), and a whole bunch more. I'll
> admit, I was never a fanatic about the genre, and I almost never
> played them online. Mostly, my strategies revolved around turtling up
> and making pretty bases, then building the biggest army and sending
> them en masse to wipe out the baddies when they got too annoying.
> (playing it sort of like SimCity except with annoying neighbors 😉.
> Some engaged me more than others; for instance, I quite enjoyed the
> "Ground Control" games, and I found the "Battle for Middle Earth"
> games much more satisfying than even I expected. But they always
> played second fiddle to more other genres I enjoyed more: FPS games,
> or RPGs, for instance.
>
> But the ones I enjoyed most were the ones where you had a god's eye
> view of the battle and not the one that also required you to control a
> unit on the ground, like "Hostile Waters", "BattleZone", "Sacrifice"
> and -apparently- "Empire of Ants". I just don't find the hybrid mix of
> RTS and FPS/TPS a good mixture.

Although my most played RTS is Total Annihilation my favourite is Ground
Control. The main reason is that it removes the whole resource/base
management aspects and just concentrates on the tactical gameplay. It
also didn't degenerate into a click-fest.

My view is games are better if they know what genre they are and stick
to it. That's why I have a problem with both XCOM:Enemy Unknown and the
Total War series. I just wish they have one core aspect.

An interesting one was Field of Glory:II where they ditched the basic
campaign mode from their previous title and instead went with a series
of linked battles where occasionally you had a choice to make.

Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
> On 10/17/2024 4:23 PM, Ant wrote:
> > Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
> > ...
> >>> I am itching all over the place now! :-)
> >>>
> >> "Bugs, Mr. Rico. Zillions of em!"
> >
> > Where is that quote from?

> The book 'Starship Troopers' by Robert Heinlein.

Ah. Was it in the movie too?
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Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Oct 2024 23:28:01 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

> >So, you didn't like RTS games like Dune, C&C, WC, SC, AoE, etc. I love those.

> I absolutely love Age of Empires 1 and 2. I always have one of the
> definitive editions of those games installed. But I never cared for
> any of the other RTS series. I tried all of the ones in your list and
> the only one there I liked enough to finish was Warcraft 2 Tides of
> Darkness.

:D
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