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Subject: Re: FREE GAMES: "Industria" and "Lisa: The Definitive Edition"
From: Justisaur
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On 4/25/2024 9:00 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>
> Greetings and salutations, fellow humans. Free games time again. You
> know the drill; head on over to Epic and click the 'add to library'
> links. Remember, a cluttered video game library is a happy video game
> library.

> * Lisa: The Definitive Edition
> https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/lisa-the-joyful-219c24
> A 'complete' edition that includes "Lisa: The First",
> "Lisa: The Painful" and "Lisa: The Joyful", two Indie
> RPGs with a side-scrolling retro-graphic'd viewpoint.
> I don't know anything about the game and it generally
> has good reviews... but on first glance, I can't say
> this is a game I'd want to play. It just looks ugly,
> not only because of its old-school graphics but
> unappealing character and monster designs, and boring
> map layout. I guess it has a sort of weird Lynchian
> vibe that might appeal to some, but I'm not sure I'm
> in the target demographic.

So I picked it up, and was going to install it and give it a try but in
the Library it only lists

Lisa: The Painful - Definitive Edition
Lisa: The Joyful - Definitive Edition

I don't see "Lisa: The first"

When I search Lisa in the store it only shows "The Definitive Edition"
not either of those. I'm scratching my head on what to do here.

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Subject: Re: FREE GAMES: "Industria" and "Lisa: The Definitive Edition"
From: Spalls Hurgenson
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Subject: Re: FREE GAMES: "Industria" and "Lisa: The Definitive Edition"
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On Fri, 26 Apr 2024 16:15:35 -0700, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On 4/25/2024 9:00 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>>
>> Greetings and salutations, fellow humans. Free games time again. You
>> know the drill; head on over to Epic and click the 'add to library'
>> links. Remember, a cluttered video game library is a happy video game
>> library.
>
>> * Lisa: The Definitive Edition
>> https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/lisa-the-joyful-219c24
>> A 'complete' edition that includes "Lisa: The First",
>> "Lisa: The Painful" and "Lisa: The Joyful", two Indie
>> RPGs with a side-scrolling retro-graphic'd viewpoint.
>> I don't know anything about the game and it generally
>> has good reviews... but on first glance, I can't say
>> this is a game I'd want to play. It just looks ugly,
>> not only because of its old-school graphics but
>> unappealing character and monster designs, and boring
>> map layout. I guess it has a sort of weird Lynchian
>> vibe that might appeal to some, but I'm not sure I'm
>> in the target demographic.
>
>So I picked it up, and was going to install it and give it a try but in
>the Library it only lists
>
>Lisa: The Painful - Definitive Edition
>Lisa: The Joyful - Definitive Edition
>
>I don't see "Lisa: The first"
>
>When I search Lisa in the store it only shows "The Definitive Edition"
>not either of those. I'm scratching my head on what to do here.

Apparently "Lisa: The First" is a free prologue. I based my info on
the "Lisa:Complete Edition" found on Steam, which does include "The
First". Apparently Epic's "definitive edition" does not. (there's no
'definitive edition' listed on Steam; I just assumed the two were the
same. Well, you know what they say about assuming...)

But if you want the full "Lisa" experience you can grab "Lisa: The
First" for free here:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2743030/LISA_The_First/

Subject: Re: FREE GAMES: "Industria" and "Lisa: The Definitive Edition"
From: Mike S.
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On Sat, 27 Apr 2024 09:47:47 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson
<spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

>But if you want the full "Lisa" experience you can grab "Lisa: The
>First" for free here:
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/2743030/LISA_The_First/

Thank you again Spalls. It was confusing me as well.

Subject: Re: FREE GAMES: "Industria" and "Lisa: The Definitive Edition"
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Mike S <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote at 17:49 this Saturday (GMT):
> On Sat, 27 Apr 2024 09:47:47 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson
><spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>But if you want the full "Lisa" experience you can grab "Lisa: The
>>First" for free here:
>>https://store.steampowered.com/app/2743030/LISA_The_First/
>
> Thank you again Spalls. It was confusing me as well.

Is it any good?
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On 4/27/2024 6:47 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Apr 2024 16:15:35 -0700, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 4/25/2024 9:00 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>>>
>>> Greetings and salutations, fellow humans. Free games time again. You
>>> know the drill; head on over to Epic and click the 'add to library'
>>> links. Remember, a cluttered video game library is a happy video game
>>> library.
>>
>>> * Lisa: The Definitive Edition
>>> https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/lisa-the-joyful-219c24
>>> A 'complete' edition that includes "Lisa: The First",
>>> "Lisa: The Painful" and "Lisa: The Joyful", two Indie
>>> RPGs with a side-scrolling retro-graphic'd viewpoint.
>>> I don't know anything about the game and it generally
>>> has good reviews... but on first glance, I can't say
>>> this is a game I'd want to play. It just looks ugly,
>>> not only because of its old-school graphics but
>>> unappealing character and monster designs, and boring
>>> map layout. I guess it has a sort of weird Lynchian
>>> vibe that might appeal to some, but I'm not sure I'm
>>> in the target demographic.
>>
>> So I picked it up, and was going to install it and give it a try but in
>> the Library it only lists
>>
>> Lisa: The Painful - Definitive Edition
>> Lisa: The Joyful - Definitive Edition
>>
>> I don't see "Lisa: The first"
>>
>> When I search Lisa in the store it only shows "The Definitive Edition"
>> not either of those. I'm scratching my head on what to do here.
>
> Apparently "Lisa: The First" is a free prologue. I based my info on
> the "Lisa:Complete Edition" found on Steam, which does include "The
> First". Apparently Epic's "definitive edition" does not. (there's no
> 'definitive edition' listed on Steam; I just assumed the two were the
> same. Well, you know what they say about assuming...)
>
> But if you want the full "Lisa" experience you can grab "Lisa: The
> First" for free here:
> https://store.steampowered.com/app/2743030/LISA_The_First/
>

So I decided to try Lisa: The Painful as that's the first that was free.
It brought me through the prologue, I'm not sure if that was Lisa: the
First or not, but it felt like I didn't need anything more anyway.

The prologue is annoying though as it's basically an in game cutscene
which is fairly long for what it was. I suppose it's to build into the
main game and can be forgiven.

*mild spoilers of the premise of the game follow*...

The setting/text is dark and disturbing. Some sort of apocalypse (no
explanation) has left the world a wasteland, and there's no women.
Except one baby girl you find in the wasteland and raise to a child,
then she gets kidnapped and your friends killed. She appears to still
be a child at the time of the kidnapping. You go out to get her back.
Constant comments from raider type enemies on what they'll do if they
find her really turned me off.

As to the gameplay, it's JRPG combat and some rather crap side scrolling
when not in combat.

I won't be continuing it. The subject matter while compelling, isn't
something I'm interested in exploring, and the gameplay itself feels
like it would be some shovelware in the 80's at best.

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Subject: Re: FREE GAMES: "Industria" and "Lisa: The Definitive Edition"
From: Mike S.
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On Sat, 27 Apr 2024 21:50:01 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
<candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:

>Is it any good?

I have no idea but I hope so as I think I am going to try it. Steam
reviews are positive.

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Mike S <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote at 19:07 this Sunday (GMT):
> On Sat, 27 Apr 2024 21:50:01 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
><candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
>
>>Is it any good?
>
> I have no idea but I hope so as I think I am going to try it. Steam
> reviews are positive.

Well, good luck!
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Subject: Re: FREE GAMES: "Industria" and "Lisa: The Definitive Edition"
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On Sun, 28 Apr 2024 15:07:09 -0400, Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com>
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>On Sat, 27 Apr 2024 21:50:01 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
><candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
>
>>Is it any good?
>
>I have no idea but I hope so as I think I am going to try it. Steam
>reviews are positive.

I tried it. The short of it is, no - as much as I wished otherwise -
it is not a very good game. The long of it is coming in two days with
the monthly round-up (no peeking!).

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Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote at 02:02 this Tuesday (GMT):
> On Sun, 28 Apr 2024 15:07:09 -0400, Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 27 Apr 2024 21:50:01 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
>><candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
>>
>>>Is it any good?
>>
>>I have no idea but I hope so as I think I am going to try it. Steam
>>reviews are positive.
>
> I tried it. The short of it is, no - as much as I wished otherwise -
> it is not a very good game. The long of it is coming in two days with
> the monthly round-up (no peeking!).

Can't wait.
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comp / comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action / Re: FREE GAMES: "Industria" and "Lisa: The Definitive Edition"

Subject	Author
Re: FREE GAMES: "Industria" and "Lisa: The Definitive Edition"	Justisaur
Re: FREE GAMES: "Industria" and "Lisa: The Definitive Edition"	Spalls Hurgenson
Re: FREE GAMES: "Industria" and "Lisa: The Definitive Edition"	Mike S.
Re: FREE GAMES: "Industria" and "Lisa: The Definitive Edition"	candycanearter07
Re: FREE GAMES: "Industria" and "Lisa: The Definitive Edition"	Mike S.
Re: FREE GAMES: "Industria" and "Lisa: The Definitive Edition"	candycanearter07
Re: FREE GAMES: "Industria" and "Lisa: The Definitive Edition"	Spalls Hurgenson
Re: FREE GAMES: "Industria" and "Lisa: The Definitive Edition"	candycanearter07
Re: FREE GAMES: "Industria" and "Lisa: The Definitive Edition"	Justisaur