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* BASIC turns 60Spalls Hurgenson
+* Re: BASIC turns 60Ant
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||`- Re: BASIC turns 60Zaghadka
|`* Re: BASIC turns 60candycanearter07
| `* Re: BASIC turns 60Mike S.
|  +* Re: BASIC turns 60Spalls Hurgenson
|  |`* Re: BASIC turns 60Dimensional Traveler
|  | +- Re: BASIC turns 60Mike S.
|  | `- Re: BASIC turns 60Xocyll
|  `- Re: BASIC turns 60candycanearter07
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Subject: Re: BASIC turns 60
From: Spalls Hurgenson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action
Date: Sun, 5 May 2024 14:49 UTC
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On Sun, 05 May 2024 09:30:46 -0400, Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com>
wrote:

>On Sat, 4 May 2024 23:10:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
><candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
>
>>BASIC was way before my time ^^"
>
>You are, I am guessing, one of the youngest people in this newsgroup
>then. I was typing BASIC programs from magazines and then saving them
>to tape when I was a kid.

Wait... are you implying I'm not young? I'm young! I'm all about the
Robloxes and Taylor Smiths and... erm... all that other stuff. How do
you do, fellow kids? ;-)

Oh wait. Scratch that. I have just been informed I am not young. I'm
merely immature. ;-P

Subject: Re: BASIC turns 60
From: Dimensional Traveler
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On 5/5/2024 7:49 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
> On Sun, 05 May 2024 09:30:46 -0400, Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 4 May 2024 23:10:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
>> <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
>>
>>> BASIC was way before my time ^^"
>>
>> You are, I am guessing, one of the youngest people in this newsgroup
>> then. I was typing BASIC programs from magazines and then saving them
>> to tape when I was a kid.
>
> Wait... are you implying I'm not young? I'm young! I'm all about the
> Robloxes and Taylor Smiths and... erm... all that other stuff. How do
> you do, fellow kids? ;-)
>
>
>
> Oh wait. Scratch that. I have just been informed I am not young. I'm
> merely immature. ;-P
>
I tried being a grown-up once. It was no fun so I stopped doing it.

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dirty old man.

Subject: Re: BASIC turns 60
From: Mike S.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action
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On Sun, 5 May 2024 10:23:57 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
<dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:

>I tried being a grown-up once. It was no fun so I stopped doing it.

Heh. :)

Subject: Re: BASIC turns 60
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candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 18:38 this Thursday (GMT):
> > Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On 5/1/2024 2:16 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I'd wager that even if you don't know anything else about it, most
> >> > people have at least heard of the BASIC programming language. Designed
> >> > as an easy-to-use language, its comparatively lightweight footprint
> >> > paired well with the newest microcomputers of the 70s and 80s. It was
> >> > the de facto standard language for many PCs - in fact, for the longest
> >> > time, even IBM PC/Compatibles would try to boot to a BASIC interpreter
> >> > if no boot-sector was found on floppy or hard-drive, burning the
> >> > nonsensical "No ROM BASIC System Halted" message into many a PC-users
> >> > brain if there was a disk failure).
> >> >
> >> > In some ways BASIC was the Java of its time; a common language that
> >> > (more or less) ran on many different computers regardless of
> >> > hardware.* Many classic games were coded in BASIC, and -even as the
> >> > world slowly moved away from that language - many developer's first
> >> > steps (and games!) were made using BASIC. Microsoft's first product
> >> > was a BASIC interpreter; without it, they'd never have had the cash to
> >> > 'create' their DOS operating system and we might still all be under
> >> > the thumb of IBM (and probably still using 16-bit processors. IBM
> >> > hated innovation). I myself have semi-fond memories of typing in BASIC
> >> > programs from some magazine into my 8-bit PC, and then struggling to
> >> > understand what the hell I was doing.
> >> >
> >> > Anyway, BASIC turned 60 today, with the first BASIC program being run
> >> > 1 May 1964 in Dartmouth College. So let's all raise a glass to this
> >> > pioneer of computing that helped make the microcomputer industry the
> >> > success it is today.
> >> >
> >
> >> > * not quite, since BASIC interpretations varied from platform to
> >> > platform, but - especially in the early days - it didn't take too much
> >> > effort to port programs between different systems
> >
> >> I took a BASIC class in Jr. College in the 80's, I made a few programs.
> >> The one I remember most was one that would roll D&D characters on 3d6 in
> >> order until you qualified for the class you wanted to play (1e/2e) which
> >> was over 1000 rolls for the one Paladin.
> >
> >> I'm still slowly trying to learn Javascript, but it makes absolutely no
> >> sense to me in comparison. I can type a simple program in and try to
> >> figure out why it isn't working, but that's about it, which is discouraging.
> >
> >> I had tried to learn Python many years ago on my own, but just didn't
> >> have the motivation, I remember it making a lot more sense though.
> >> Maybe I should go back to that, but I wanted the web native abilities of
> >> Javascript.
> >
> > I don't like coding. I do like breaking stuff though as a QA tester. ;)

> Wait you were a QA tester?

Yep from 1998 to 2016.
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Subject: Re: BASIC turns 60
From: Xocyll
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Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> looked up from reading the
entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
say:

>On 5/5/2024 7:49 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>> On Sun, 05 May 2024 09:30:46 -0400, Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 4 May 2024 23:10:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
>>> <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> BASIC was way before my time ^^"
>>>
>>> You are, I am guessing, one of the youngest people in this newsgroup
>>> then. I was typing BASIC programs from magazines and then saving them
>>> to tape when I was a kid.
>>
>> Wait... are you implying I'm not young? I'm young! I'm all about the
>> Robloxes and Taylor Smiths and... erm... all that other stuff. How do
>> you do, fellow kids? ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Oh wait. Scratch that. I have just been informed I am not young. I'm
>> merely immature. ;-P
>>
>I tried being a grown-up once. It was no fun so I stopped doing it.

Go straight from grumpy kid, to grump old man.

Xocyll

Subject: Re: BASIC turns 60
From: Xocyll
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Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the
entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
say:

>On Fri, 3 May 2024 18:07:12 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
><dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>
>
>>> Anyone have any good, freaky bug stories like that one?
>
>>Does being a 10 year kid encountering a spider as big as me count?
>
>I didn't know you lived in Australia.
>
Or Metebelis III.

Xocyll

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Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote at 20:27 this Sunday (GMT):
> Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the
> entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
> say:
>
>>On Fri, 3 May 2024 18:07:12 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
>><dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> Anyone have any good, freaky bug stories like that one?
>>
>>>Does being a 10 year kid encountering a spider as big as me count?
>>
>>I didn't know you lived in Australia.
>>
> Or Metebelis III.
>
> Xocyll

What's the difference? :D

(idk what metebelis III is)
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Subject: Re: BASIC turns 60
From: Dimensional Traveler
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From: dtravel@sonic.net (Dimensional Traveler)
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On 5/5/2024 2:20 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
> Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote at 20:27 this Sunday (GMT):
>> Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the
>> entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
>> say:
>>
>>> On Fri, 3 May 2024 18:07:12 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
>>> <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Anyone have any good, freaky bug stories like that one?
>>>
>>>> Does being a 10 year kid encountering a spider as big as me count?
>>>
>>> I didn't know you lived in Australia.
>>>
>> Or Metebelis III.
>>
>> Xocyll
>
>
> What's the difference? :D
>
> (idk what metebelis III is)

A planet from Doctor Who.

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dirty old man.

Subject: Re: BASIC turns 60
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On 5/5/2024 1:03 PM, Darth Ant wrote:
> candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
>> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 18:38 this Thursday (GMT):
>>> Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> On 5/1/2024 2:16 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd wager that even if you don't know anything else about it, most
>>>>> people have at least heard of the BASIC programming language. Designed
>>>>> as an easy-to-use language, its comparatively lightweight footprint
>>>>> paired well with the newest microcomputers of the 70s and 80s. It was
>>>>> the de facto standard language for many PCs - in fact, for the longest
>>>>> time, even IBM PC/Compatibles would try to boot to a BASIC interpreter
>>>>> if no boot-sector was found on floppy or hard-drive, burning the
>>>>> nonsensical "No ROM BASIC System Halted" message into many a PC-users
>>>>> brain if there was a disk failure).
>>>>>
>>>>> In some ways BASIC was the Java of its time; a common language that
>>>>> (more or less) ran on many different computers regardless of
>>>>> hardware.* Many classic games were coded in BASIC, and -even as the
>>>>> world slowly moved away from that language - many developer's first
>>>>> steps (and games!) were made using BASIC. Microsoft's first product
>>>>> was a BASIC interpreter; without it, they'd never have had the cash to
>>>>> 'create' their DOS operating system and we might still all be under
>>>>> the thumb of IBM (and probably still using 16-bit processors. IBM
>>>>> hated innovation). I myself have semi-fond memories of typing in BASIC
>>>>> programs from some magazine into my 8-bit PC, and then struggling to
>>>>> understand what the hell I was doing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, BASIC turned 60 today, with the first BASIC program being run
>>>>> 1 May 1964 in Dartmouth College. So let's all raise a glass to this
>>>>> pioneer of computing that helped make the microcomputer industry the
>>>>> success it is today.
>>>>>
>>>
>>>>> * not quite, since BASIC interpretations varied from platform to
>>>>> platform, but - especially in the early days - it didn't take too much
>>>>> effort to port programs between different systems
>>>
>>>> I took a BASIC class in Jr. College in the 80's, I made a few programs.
>>>> The one I remember most was one that would roll D&D characters on 3d6 in
>>>> order until you qualified for the class you wanted to play (1e/2e) which
>>>> was over 1000 rolls for the one Paladin.
>>>
>>>> I'm still slowly trying to learn Javascript, but it makes absolutely no
>>>> sense to me in comparison. I can type a simple program in and try to
>>>> figure out why it isn't working, but that's about it, which is discouraging.
>>>
>>>> I had tried to learn Python many years ago on my own, but just didn't
>>>> have the motivation, I remember it making a lot more sense though.
>>>> Maybe I should go back to that, but I wanted the web native abilities of
>>>> Javascript.
>>>
>>> I don't like coding. I do like breaking stuff though as a QA tester. ;)
>
>> Wait you were a QA tester?
>
> Yep from 1998 to 2016.

So we can blame you for all the bad games!

:P

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Subject: Re: BASIC turns 60
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candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The
Augury is good, the signs say:

>Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote at 20:27 this Sunday (GMT):
>> Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the
>> entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
>> say:
>>
>>>On Fri, 3 May 2024 18:07:12 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
>>><dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Anyone have any good, freaky bug stories like that one?
>>>
>>>>Does being a 10 year kid encountering a spider as big as me count?
>>>
>>>I didn't know you lived in Australia.
>>>
>> Or Metebelis III.
>>
>> Xocyll
>
>
>What's the difference? :D
>
>(idk what metebelis III is)

Dr Who, 3rd Doctor, planet with giant psychic spiders on it, some of
whom had come to earth and were puppeteering humans.

It was going there again and returning a crystal that causes Doc3 to
regenerate into the Manic Scarf-Meister.

Xocyll

Subject: Re: BASIC turns 60
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On Sun, 05 May 2024 16:27:49 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Xocyll wrote:

>Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the
>entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
>say:
>
>>On Fri, 3 May 2024 18:07:12 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
>><dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> Anyone have any good, freaky bug stories like that one?
>>
>>>Does being a 10 year kid encountering a spider as big as me count?
>>
>>I didn't know you lived in Australia.
>>
>Or Metebelis III.
>
Jon Pertwee sends his thanks.

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spent more time alone with my computer.' ~Dan(i) Bunten

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On Sun, 5 May 2024 15:11:54 -0700, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,
Dimensional Traveler wrote:

>On 5/5/2024 1:03 PM, Darth Ant wrote:
>> candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
>>> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 18:38 this Thursday (GMT):
>>>> Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 5/1/2024 2:16 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd wager that even if you don't know anything else about it, most
>>>>>> people have at least heard of the BASIC programming language. Designed
>>>>>> as an easy-to-use language, its comparatively lightweight footprint
>>>>>> paired well with the newest microcomputers of the 70s and 80s. It was
>>>>>> the de facto standard language for many PCs - in fact, for the longest
>>>>>> time, even IBM PC/Compatibles would try to boot to a BASIC interpreter
>>>>>> if no boot-sector was found on floppy or hard-drive, burning the
>>>>>> nonsensical "No ROM BASIC System Halted" message into many a PC-users
>>>>>> brain if there was a disk failure).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In some ways BASIC was the Java of its time; a common language that
>>>>>> (more or less) ran on many different computers regardless of
>>>>>> hardware.* Many classic games were coded in BASIC, and -even as the
>>>>>> world slowly moved away from that language - many developer's first
>>>>>> steps (and games!) were made using BASIC. Microsoft's first product
>>>>>> was a BASIC interpreter; without it, they'd never have had the cash to
>>>>>> 'create' their DOS operating system and we might still all be under
>>>>>> the thumb of IBM (and probably still using 16-bit processors. IBM
>>>>>> hated innovation). I myself have semi-fond memories of typing in BASIC
>>>>>> programs from some magazine into my 8-bit PC, and then struggling to
>>>>>> understand what the hell I was doing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway, BASIC turned 60 today, with the first BASIC program being run
>>>>>> 1 May 1964 in Dartmouth College. So let's all raise a glass to this
>>>>>> pioneer of computing that helped make the microcomputer industry the
>>>>>> success it is today.
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> * not quite, since BASIC interpretations varied from platform to
>>>>>> platform, but - especially in the early days - it didn't take too much
>>>>>> effort to port programs between different systems
>>>>
>>>>> I took a BASIC class in Jr. College in the 80's, I made a few programs.
>>>>> The one I remember most was one that would roll D&D characters on 3d6 in
>>>>> order until you qualified for the class you wanted to play (1e/2e) which
>>>>> was over 1000 rolls for the one Paladin.
>>>>
>>>>> I'm still slowly trying to learn Javascript, but it makes absolutely no
>>>>> sense to me in comparison. I can type a simple program in and try to
>>>>> figure out why it isn't working, but that's about it, which is discouraging.
>>>>
>>>>> I had tried to learn Python many years ago on my own, but just didn't
>>>>> have the motivation, I remember it making a lot more sense though.
>>>>> Maybe I should go back to that, but I wanted the web native abilities of
>>>>> Javascript.
>>>>
>>>> I don't like coding. I do like breaking stuff though as a QA tester. ;)
>>
>>> Wait you were a QA tester?
>>
>> Yep from 1998 to 2016.
>
>So we can blame you for all the bad games!
>
No. We can thank him for stomping out the critical bugs they wanted to
launch with.

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spent more time alone with my computer.' ~Dan(i) Bunten

Subject: Re: BASIC turns 60
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Mike S <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote at 13:30 this Sunday (GMT):
> On Sat, 4 May 2024 23:10:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
><candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
>
>>BASIC was way before my time ^^"
>
> You are, I am guessing, one of the youngest people in this newsgroup
> then. I was typing BASIC programs from magazines and then saving them
> to tape when I was a kid.

I wouldn't be surprised if i was the youngest ^^
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Subject: Re: BASIC turns 60
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Darth Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 20:03 this Sunday (GMT):
> candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
>> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 18:38 this Thursday (GMT):
>> > Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> On 5/1/2024 2:16 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > I'd wager that even if you don't know anything else about it, most
>> >> > people have at least heard of the BASIC programming language. Designed
>> >> > as an easy-to-use language, its comparatively lightweight footprint
>> >> > paired well with the newest microcomputers of the 70s and 80s. It was
>> >> > the de facto standard language for many PCs - in fact, for the longest
>> >> > time, even IBM PC/Compatibles would try to boot to a BASIC interpreter
>> >> > if no boot-sector was found on floppy or hard-drive, burning the
>> >> > nonsensical "No ROM BASIC System Halted" message into many a PC-users
>> >> > brain if there was a disk failure).
>> >> >
>> >> > In some ways BASIC was the Java of its time; a common language that
>> >> > (more or less) ran on many different computers regardless of
>> >> > hardware.* Many classic games were coded in BASIC, and -even as the
>> >> > world slowly moved away from that language - many developer's first
>> >> > steps (and games!) were made using BASIC. Microsoft's first product
>> >> > was a BASIC interpreter; without it, they'd never have had the cash to
>> >> > 'create' their DOS operating system and we might still all be under
>> >> > the thumb of IBM (and probably still using 16-bit processors. IBM
>> >> > hated innovation). I myself have semi-fond memories of typing in BASIC
>> >> > programs from some magazine into my 8-bit PC, and then struggling to
>> >> > understand what the hell I was doing.
>> >> >
>> >> > Anyway, BASIC turned 60 today, with the first BASIC program being run
>> >> > 1 May 1964 in Dartmouth College. So let's all raise a glass to this
>> >> > pioneer of computing that helped make the microcomputer industry the
>> >> > success it is today.
>> >> >
>> >
>> >> > * not quite, since BASIC interpretations varied from platform to
>> >> > platform, but - especially in the early days - it didn't take too much
>> >> > effort to port programs between different systems
>> >
>> >> I took a BASIC class in Jr. College in the 80's, I made a few programs.
>> >> The one I remember most was one that would roll D&D characters on 3d6 in
>> >> order until you qualified for the class you wanted to play (1e/2e) which
>> >> was over 1000 rolls for the one Paladin.
>> >
>> >> I'm still slowly trying to learn Javascript, but it makes absolutely no
>> >> sense to me in comparison. I can type a simple program in and try to
>> >> figure out why it isn't working, but that's about it, which is discouraging.
>> >
>> >> I had tried to learn Python many years ago on my own, but just didn't
>> >> have the motivation, I remember it making a lot more sense though.
>> >> Maybe I should go back to that, but I wanted the web native abilities of
>> >> Javascript.
>> >
>> > I don't like coding. I do like breaking stuff though as a QA tester. ;)
>
>> Wait you were a QA tester?
>
> Yep from 1998 to 2016.

Pretty cool!
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Subject: Re: BASIC turns 60
From: candycanearter07
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Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 22:11 this Sunday (GMT):
> On 5/5/2024 2:20 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
>> Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote at 20:27 this Sunday (GMT):
>>> Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the
>>> entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
>>> say:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 3 May 2024 18:07:12 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
>>>> <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone have any good, freaky bug stories like that one?
>>>>
>>>>> Does being a 10 year kid encountering a spider as big as me count?
>>>>
>>>> I didn't know you lived in Australia.
>>>>
>>> Or Metebelis III.
>>>
>>> Xocyll
>>
>>
>> What's the difference? :D
>>
>> (idk what metebelis III is)
>
> A planet from Doctor Who.

Ah. I never really watched it.
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Subject: Re: BASIC turns 60
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On 5/7/2024 6:36 AM, candycanearter07 wrote:
> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 22:11 this Sunday (GMT):
>> On 5/5/2024 2:20 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
>>> Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> wrote at 20:27 this Sunday (GMT):
>>>> Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the
>>>> entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
>>>> say:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 3 May 2024 18:07:12 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
>>>>> <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyone have any good, freaky bug stories like that one?
>>>>>
>>>>>> Does being a 10 year kid encountering a spider as big as me count?
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't know you lived in Australia.
>>>>>
>>>> Or Metebelis III.
>>>>
>>> What's the difference? :D
>>>
>>> (idk what metebelis III is)
>>
>> A planet from Doctor Who.
>
> Ah. I never really watched it.

I did but Google has a much better memory than I do. ;)

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Subject: Re: BASIC turns 60
From: candycanearter07
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Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 14:40 this Tuesday (GMT):
> On 5/7/2024 6:36 AM, candycanearter07 wrote:
>> Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 22:11 this Sunday (GMT):
>>> On 5/5/2024 2:20 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:
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>>>> What's the difference? :D
>>>>
>>>> (idk what metebelis III is)
>>>
>>> A planet from Doctor Who.
>>
>> Ah. I never really watched it.
>
> I did but Google has a much better memory than I do. ;)

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