Location ##1200:048a
65535, 9051
Findattribute: Null Att Type
1b8606e3
Internal Revision 14.104a_W4

This is under virtual box 6.1, a usb docking station for external hard drive
The crash happens every time except on a fresh boot of OS/2

Any suggestions on how to fix?

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Am 27.01.21 um 18:28 schrieb Mr. G:
> Location ##1200:048a
> 65535, 9051
> Findattribute: Null Att Type
> 1b8606e3
> Internal Revision 14.104a_W4
>
> This is under virtual box 6.1, a usb docking station for external hard drive
> The crash happens every time except on a fresh boot of OS/2
>
> Any suggestions on how to fix?

VBox 6.1 is crap.

- The (only resonable) E1000 emulation causes the OS/2 network driver to
hang up after until reboot a few minutes of traffic.
- VMs tend to crash occasionally.
- The virtual display of headless VMs causes black screen after login in
LXDE if X11 guest additions (any version) are installed.

Non of these problems ever occurred in any previous release. And I used
at least a dozen. I would not wonder if the USB emulation is broken in
6.1 too.

=> I reverted to the latest 6.0 maintenance release and did not have
even one problem since that (4 VMs running 24/7).

Maybe you try 6.0 too.

Marcel

Marcel Mueller schrieb:
> VBox 6.1 is crap.

may be that's true for OS/2 as guest.

> - The (only resonable) E1000 emulation causes the OS/2 network driver to
> hang up after until reboot a few minutes of traffic.
> - VMs tend to crash occasionally.
> - The virtual display of headless VMs causes black screen after login in
> LXDE if X11 guest additions (any version) are installed.

This all happens with OS/2-guests?

> Non of these problems ever occurred in any previous release. And I used
> at least a dozen. I would not wonder if the USB emulation is broken in
> 6.1 too.

So maybe the 6.1 has problems with OS/2?

Because in my use case, several Linux- and a W10-VM with a lot of
hacking-usb-devices for iot-security-testing, the USB-path-through works
very stable and reliable.

Even better than with earlier versions.

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Thorolf

Am 28.01.21 um 15:43 schrieb Thorolf:
> Marcel Mueller schrieb:
>> VBox 6.1 is crap.
>
> may be that's true for OS/2 as guest.
>
>> - The (only resonable) E1000 emulation causes the OS/2 network driver
>> to hang up after until reboot a few minutes of traffic.
>> - VMs tend to crash occasionally.
>> - The virtual display of headless VMs causes black screen after login
>> in LXDE if X11 guest additions (any version) are installed.
>
> This all happens with OS/2-guests?

Nope. OS/2 and Linux Guests are unstable, in fact unusable. OS/2 without
network is of little use, Linux without graphics or with completely
unaccelerated graphics is of little use as well.

>> Non of these problems ever occurred in any previous release. And I
>> used at least a dozen. I would not wonder if the USB emulation is
>> broken in 6.1 too.
>
> So maybe the 6.1 has problems with OS/2?

It has. Even with the extremely slow AMD PCNet network card it crashed
by far too often (The VM process not the OS/2 kernel).

> Because in my use case, several Linux- and a W10-VM with a lot of
> hacking-usb-devices for iot-security-testing, the USB-path-through works
> very stable and reliable.

Do you have /headless/ VMs? I only have headless VMs used as virtual
desktops via RDP.
I wonder how X11 ever works. 18.04 did not work, 20.04 did not work. All
of them tested with all available virtual video emulations, and with
large video ram and with builtin guest additions from the repository as
well as with the recent ones shipped with the host VBox installation
directly from Oracle. In all cases screen painting stopped as soon as
the LXDE session started.
Only if guest additions are removed there was a picture.

> Even better than with earlier versions.

I had almost no problems with previous versions over many years. OK, I
did not upgrade to every maintenance release. AFAIR there was one
maintenance release that caused VDI file corruption quite often. In this
case I downgraded. But with the next release everything was fine again.

Marcel

Marcel Mueller schrieb:
> Nope. OS/2 and Linux Guests are unstable, in fact unusable. OS/2 without
> network is of little use, Linux without graphics or with completely
> unaccelerated graphics is of little use as well.

for testing ArcaOS and using older eCS and MCP/ACP installations it is
good enough and stable. On Linux with standard-desktops like XFCE and
Gnome it's working too, I have no need for any accelerated graphics.

At least I do not anything for or against it during installation.

> Do you have /headless/ VMs? I only have headless VMs used as virtual
> desktops via RDP.

Surely not, VBox is for desktop-virtualization only.

I use it with one or two VMs on my ThinkPad with GUI, for testing new
ArcaOS or Linux versions, with W10 for software that is not available
for anything else and for iot-pen-testing.

I use VBox on MacOS and Linux as host.

For everything else I use Xen or KVM without graphical GUI on servers.

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Thorolf

On 01/27/21 09:28 AM, Mr. G wrote:
> Location ##1200:048a
> 65535, 9051
> Findattribute: Null Att Type
> 1b8606e3
> Internal Revision 14.104a_W4
>
> This is under virtual box 6.1, a usb docking station for external hard drive
> The crash happens every time except on a fresh boot of OS/2
>
> Any suggestions on how to fix?
>

Which USB drivers?
Dave

Am 28.01.21 um 23:52 schrieb Thorolf:
> Marcel Mueller schrieb:
>> Nope. OS/2 and Linux Guests are unstable, in fact unusable. OS/2
>> without network is of little use, Linux without graphics or with
>> completely unaccelerated graphics is of little use as well.
>
> for testing ArcaOS and using older eCS and MCP/ACP installations it is
> good enough and stable. On Linux with standard-desktops like XFCE and
> Gnome it's working too, I have no need for any accelerated graphics.
>
> At least I do not anything for or against it during installation.

2D acceleration is AFAIK default as soon as guest addition are installed.

But without any acceleration your PC is put back into the 90's,
especially for large screens like 3k and up.

>> Do you have /headless/ VMs? I only have headless VMs used as virtual
>> desktops via RDP.
>
> Surely not, VBox is for desktop-virtualization only.

Agree. I use it for virtual desktops only.

> I use it with one or two VMs on my ThinkPad with GUI, for testing new
> ArcaOS or Linux versions, with W10 for software that is not available
> for anything else and for iot-pen-testing.
>
> I use VBox on MacOS and Linux as host.
>
> For everything else I use Xen or KVM without graphical GUI on servers.

None of them can reasonably host remote desktops, neither OS/2 or other
OS without builtin remote control, nor the guest installation process
which cannot run headless in most OS. VNC is to slow for daily use too.
In contrast VRDE of VBox is very usable for daily business.

Marcel

On Fri, 29 Jan 2021 03:55:20 UTC, Dave Yeo <dave.r.yeo@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 01/27/21 09:28 AM, Mr. G wrote:
> > Location ##1200:048a
> > 65535, 9051
> > Findattribute: Null Att Type
> > 1b8606e3
> > Internal Revision 14.104a_W4
> >
> > This is under virtual box 6.1, a usb docking station for external hard drive
> > The crash happens every time except on a fresh boot of OS/2
> >
> > Any suggestions on how to fix?
> >
>
> Which USB drivers?
> Dave

usbdrv237

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