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Subject: tar problem
From: db
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I like to make life easy so I wrote a one-line script
for extracting the contents of a tar file. I copied it
into the /bin directory so I can run it from anywhere.
I tried it out in a test directory where I had it, and
where there is a small test tar file. Here is the dialogue
from running it, using both the local script and the one
in /bin:

~/tartest> ls
tarx test.tar.gz
~/tartest> cat tarx
tar -xf $1.tar.gz
~/tartest> cat ~/bin/tarx
tar -xf $1.tar.gz
~/tartest> ./tarx test
~/tartest> ls
tarx test test.tar.gz
~/tartest> del -r test
~/tartest> tarx test
tar (child): test: Cannot open: No such file or directory
tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now
tar: Child returned status 2
tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now

Why doesn't it work from bin/ ?

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Subject: Re: tar problem
From: Marco Moock
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On 09.06.2024 um 14:36 Uhr db wrote:

> Why doesn't it work from bin/ ?

Can you run it with bash -x?
Maybe the path isn't passed as a fullpath.

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Subject: Re: tar problem
From: Lew Pitcher
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On Sun, 09 Jun 2024 14:36:49 +0000, db wrote:

> I like to make life easy so I wrote a one-line script
> for extracting the contents of a tar file. I copied it
> into the /bin directory so I can run it from anywhere.
> I tried it out in a test directory where I had it, and
> where there is a small test tar file. Here is the dialogue
> from running it, using both the local script and the one
> in /bin:
>
> ~/tartest> ls
> tarx test.tar.gz
> ~/tartest> cat tarx
> tar -xf $1.tar.gz
> ~/tartest> cat ~/bin/tarx
> tar -xf $1.tar.gz
> ~/tartest> ./tarx test
> ~/tartest> ls
> tarx test test.tar.gz
> ~/tartest> del -r test
> ~/tartest> tarx test
> tar (child): test: Cannot open: No such file or directory
> tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now
> tar: Child returned status 2
> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
>
> Why doesn't it work from bin/ ?

Are you certain that you are running the right tarx?

What does your $PATH look like? Is there a tarx executable
in any of the directories /before/ your ~/bin in your PATH?
If so, what do /they/ look like?

--
Lew Pitcher
"In Skills We Trust"

Subject: Re: tar problem
From: Richard Kettlewell
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Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2024 17:22 UTC
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db <dieterhansbritz@gmail.com> writes:
> I like to make life easy so I wrote a one-line script
> for extracting the contents of a tar file. I copied it
> into the /bin directory so I can run it from anywhere.
> I tried it out in a test directory where I had it, and
> where there is a small test tar file. Here is the dialogue
> from running it, using both the local script and the one
> in /bin:
>
> ~/tartest> ls
> tarx test.tar.gz
> ~/tartest> cat tarx
> tar -xf $1.tar.gz
> ~/tartest> cat ~/bin/tarx
> tar -xf $1.tar.gz
> ~/tartest> ./tarx test
> ~/tartest> ls
> tarx test test.tar.gz
> ~/tartest> del -r test
> ~/tartest> tarx test
> tar (child): test: Cannot open: No such file or directory
> tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now
> tar: Child returned status 2
> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
>
> Why doesn't it work from bin/ ?

Probably /bin/tarx isn’t the same as ./tarx. What does
cat /bin/tarx
show?

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Subject: Re: tar problem
From: Robert Heller
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At Sun, 09 Jun 2024 18:22:38 +0100 Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>
> db <dieterhansbritz@gmail.com> writes:
> > I like to make life easy so I wrote a one-line script
> > for extracting the contents of a tar file. I copied it
> > into the /bin directory so I can run it from anywhere.
> > I tried it out in a test directory where I had it, and
> > where there is a small test tar file. Here is the dialogue
> > from running it, using both the local script and the one
> > in /bin:
> >
> > ~/tartest> ls
> > tarx test.tar.gz
> > ~/tartest> cat tarx
> > tar -xf $1.tar.gz
> > ~/tartest> cat ~/bin/tarx
> > tar -xf $1.tar.gz
> > ~/tartest> ./tarx test
> > ~/tartest> ls
> > tarx test test.tar.gz
> > ~/tartest> del -r test
> > ~/tartest> tarx test
> > tar (child): test: Cannot open: No such file or directory
> > tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now
> > tar: Child returned status 2
> > tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
> >
> > Why doesn't it work from bin/ ?

What does 'which tarx' show? Does it show /bin/tarx?

Note: you should *never* put random programs in /bin (or even /usr/bin). The
only programs/files in these directories should be ones installed by your
package management system. /bin is reserved for core / early boot programs
and others would be in /usr/bin.

Locally provided programs should be in either /usr/local/bin or /opt/bin
(depending on your file system usage philosiphy). These directories
can/should be added to your $PATH. *Personally* provided programs should be
in $HOME/bin, and this directory can be added to your $PATH as well.

>
> Probably /bin/tarx isn't the same as ./tarx. What does
> cat /bin/tarx
> show?
>

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Subject: Re: tar problem
From: db
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On Sun, 09 Jun 2024 19:12:52 +0000, Robert Heller wrote:

> At Sun, 09 Jun 2024 18:22:38 +0100 Richard Kettlewell
> <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>
>> db <dieterhansbritz@gmail.com> writes:
>> > I like to make life easy so I wrote a one-line script for extracting
>> > the contents of a tar file. I copied it into the /bin directory so I
>> > can run it from anywhere.
>> > I tried it out in a test directory where I had it, and where there is
>> > a small test tar file. Here is the dialogue from running it, using
>> > both the local script and the one in /bin:
>> >
>> > ~/tartest> ls tarx test.tar.gz ~/tartest> cat tarx tar -xf $1.tar.gz
>> > ~/tartest> cat ~/bin/tarx tar -xf $1.tar.gz ~/tartest> ./tarx test
>> > ~/tartest> ls tarx test test.tar.gz ~/tartest> del -r test
>> > ~/tartest> tarx test tar (child): test: Cannot open: No such file or
>> > directory tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now tar:
>> > Child returned status 2 tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
>> >
>> > Why doesn't it work from bin/ ?
>
> What does 'which tarx' show? Does it show /bin/tarx?
>
> Note: you should *never* put random programs in /bin (or even /usr/bin).
> The only programs/files in these directories should be ones installed
> by your package management system. /bin is reserved for core / early
> boot programs and others would be in /usr/bin.
>
> Locally provided programs should be in either /usr/local/bin or /opt/bin
> (depending on your file system usage philosiphy). These directories
> can/should be added to your $PATH. *Personally* provided programs
> should be in $HOME/bin, and this directory can be added to your $PATH as
> well.
>
>
>> Probably /bin/tarx isn't the same as ./tarx. What does
>> cat /bin/tarx
>> show?
>>

I already showed that, the two cat.. statements.

Be that as it may, but this works with other single-line
scripts I use. E.g. inside the directory Newstuff/ i just
typed in

~/Newstuff> mvindex

which moves a newly generated file called index.htm into another
directory. The command sits in ~/bin, as seen here
~/Newstuff> more ~/bin/mvindex
mv index.htm ~/homepage/pages/

And that worked.
Ar well, the easy way out is simply to plant the tarx script
in the two tar file directories I have, and run it with ./

--
db

Subject: Re: tar problem
From: Lew Pitcher
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On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 11:34:30 +0000, db wrote:

> On Sun, 09 Jun 2024 19:12:52 +0000, Robert Heller wrote:
>
>> At Sun, 09 Jun 2024 18:22:38 +0100 Richard Kettlewell
>> <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> db <dieterhansbritz@gmail.com> writes:
>>> > I like to make life easy so I wrote a one-line script for extracting
>>> > the contents of a tar file. I copied it into the /bin directory so I
>>> > can run it from anywhere.
>>> > I tried it out in a test directory where I had it, and where there is
>>> > a small test tar file. Here is the dialogue from running it, using
>>> > both the local script and the one in /bin:
>>> >
>>> > ~/tartest> ls tarx test.tar.gz ~/tartest> cat tarx tar -xf $1.tar.gz
>>> > ~/tartest> cat ~/bin/tarx tar -xf $1.tar.gz ~/tartest> ./tarx test
>>> > ~/tartest> ls tarx test test.tar.gz ~/tartest> del -r test
>>> > ~/tartest> tarx test tar (child): test: Cannot open: No such file or
>>> > directory tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now tar:
>>> > Child returned status 2 tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
>>> >
>>> > Why doesn't it work from bin/ ?
>>
>> What does 'which tarx' show? Does it show /bin/tarx?
>>
>> Note: you should *never* put random programs in /bin (or even /usr/bin).
>> The only programs/files in these directories should be ones installed
>> by your package management system. /bin is reserved for core / early
>> boot programs and others would be in /usr/bin.
>>
>> Locally provided programs should be in either /usr/local/bin or /opt/bin
>> (depending on your file system usage philosiphy). These directories
>> can/should be added to your $PATH. *Personally* provided programs
>> should be in $HOME/bin, and this directory can be added to your $PATH as
>> well.
>>
>>
>>> Probably /bin/tarx isn't the same as ./tarx. What does
>>> cat /bin/tarx
>>> show?
>>>
>
> I already showed that, the two cat.. statements.

Sorry, but no, you didn't.

You showed us
~/tartest> cat tarx
which gave the contents of ~/tartest/tarx, and
~/tartest> cat ~/bin/tarx
which gave the contents of ~/bin/tarx

You haven't shown the contents of /bin/tarx

Nor have you shown that there is no other version of your
tarx script in your PATH.

[snip]

--
Lew Pitcher
"In Skills We Trust"

Subject: Re: tar problem
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On 2024-06-10 14:35, Lew Pitcher wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 11:34:30 +0000, db wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 09 Jun 2024 19:12:52 +0000, Robert Heller wrote:
>>
>>> At Sun, 09 Jun 2024 18:22:38 +0100 Richard Kettlewell
>>> <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> db <dieterhansbritz@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>> I like to make life easy so I wrote a one-line script for extracting
>>>>> the contents of a tar file. I copied it into the /bin directory so I
>>>>> can run it from anywhere.
>>>>> I tried it out in a test directory where I had it, and where there is
>>>>> a small test tar file. Here is the dialogue from running it, using
>>>>> both the local script and the one in /bin:
>>>>>
>>>>> ~/tartest> ls tarx test.tar.gz ~/tartest> cat tarx tar -xf $1.tar.gz
>>>>> ~/tartest> cat ~/bin/tarx tar -xf $1.tar.gz ~/tartest> ./tarx test
>>>>> ~/tartest> ls tarx test test.tar.gz ~/tartest> del -r test
>>>>> ~/tartest> tarx test tar (child): test: Cannot open: No such file or
>>>>> directory tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now tar:
>>>>> Child returned status 2 tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
>>>>>
>>>>> Why doesn't it work from bin/ ?
>>>
>>> What does 'which tarx' show? Does it show /bin/tarx?
>>>
>>> Note: you should *never* put random programs in /bin (or even /usr/bin).
>>> The only programs/files in these directories should be ones installed
>>> by your package management system. /bin is reserved for core / early
>>> boot programs and others would be in /usr/bin.
>>>
>>> Locally provided programs should be in either /usr/local/bin or /opt/bin
>>> (depending on your file system usage philosiphy). These directories
>>> can/should be added to your $PATH. *Personally* provided programs
>>> should be in $HOME/bin, and this directory can be added to your $PATH as
>>> well.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Probably /bin/tarx isn't the same as ./tarx. What does
>>>> cat /bin/tarx
>>>> show?
>>>>
>>
>> I already showed that, the two cat.. statements.
>
> Sorry, but no, you didn't.
>
> You showed us
> ~/tartest> cat tarx
> which gave the contents of ~/tartest/tarx, and
> ~/tartest> cat ~/bin/tarx
> which gave the contents of ~/bin/tarx
>
> You haven't shown the contents of /bin/tarx

There is no proof that such a file exists.

> Nor have you shown that there is no other version of your
> tarx script in your PATH.

That is the question to ask first :-)

--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.

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On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 23:00:02 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:

> On 2024-06-10 14:35, Lew Pitcher wrote:
>> On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 11:34:30 +0000, db wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 09 Jun 2024 19:12:52 +0000, Robert Heller wrote:
>>>
>>>> At Sun, 09 Jun 2024 18:22:38 +0100 Richard Kettlewell
>>>> <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> db <dieterhansbritz@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>>> I like to make life easy so I wrote a one-line script for extracting
>>>>>> the contents of a tar file. I copied it into the /bin directory so I
>>>>>> can run it from anywhere.
>>>>>> I tried it out in a test directory where I had it, and where there is
>>>>>> a small test tar file. Here is the dialogue from running it, using
>>>>>> both the local script and the one in /bin:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ~/tartest> ls tarx test.tar.gz ~/tartest> cat tarx tar -xf $1.tar.gz
>>>>>> ~/tartest> cat ~/bin/tarx tar -xf $1.tar.gz ~/tartest> ./tarx test
>>>>>> ~/tartest> ls tarx test test.tar.gz ~/tartest> del -r test
>>>>>> ~/tartest> tarx test tar (child): test: Cannot open: No such file or
>>>>>> directory tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now tar:
>>>>>> Child returned status 2 tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why doesn't it work from bin/ ?
>>>>
>>>> What does 'which tarx' show? Does it show /bin/tarx?
>>>>
>>>> Note: you should *never* put random programs in /bin (or even /usr/bin).
>>>> The only programs/files in these directories should be ones installed
>>>> by your package management system. /bin is reserved for core / early
>>>> boot programs and others would be in /usr/bin.
>>>>
>>>> Locally provided programs should be in either /usr/local/bin or /opt/bin
>>>> (depending on your file system usage philosiphy). These directories
>>>> can/should be added to your $PATH. *Personally* provided programs
>>>> should be in $HOME/bin, and this directory can be added to your $PATH as
>>>> well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Probably /bin/tarx isn't the same as ./tarx. What does
>>>>> cat /bin/tarx
>>>>> show?
>>>>>
>>>
>>> I already showed that, the two cat.. statements.
>>
>> Sorry, but no, you didn't.
>>
>> You showed us
>> ~/tartest> cat tarx
>> which gave the contents of ~/tartest/tarx, and
>> ~/tartest> cat ~/bin/tarx
>> which gave the contents of ~/bin/tarx
>>
>> You haven't shown the contents of /bin/tarx
>
> There is no proof that such a file exists.

Agreed. However, the OP asserts that he (quote)
>>>>>> copied it into the /bin directory
and gives an example where he executes it from
(presumably, the /bin directory) in his path.

>> Nor have you shown that there is no other version of your
>> tarx script in your PATH.
>
> That is the question to ask first :-)

That's the question I /did/ ask first :-)

--
Lew Pitcher
"In Skills We Trust"

Subject: Re: tar problem
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On 2024-06-11 00:35, Lew Pitcher wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 23:00:02 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
>> On 2024-06-10 14:35, Lew Pitcher wrote:
>>> On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 11:34:30 +0000, db wrote:

>>> You haven't shown the contents of /bin/tarx
>>
>> There is no proof that such a file exists.
>
> Agreed. However, the OP asserts that he (quote)
>>>>>>> copied it into the /bin directory

Yes, the text does say that, which I found confusing compared with the
command line paste.

> and gives an example where he executes it from
> (presumably, the /bin directory) in his path.

A simple "which tarx" would clarify things.

>>> Nor have you shown that there is no other version of your
>>> tarx script in your PATH.
>>
>> That is the question to ask first :-)
>
> That's the question I /did/ ask first :-)

Ok :-)

--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.

Subject: Re: tar problem
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On Sun, 09 Jun 2024 14:36:49 +0000, db wrote:

Is this a homegrown command, or does your distribution supply it?
FWIW, "del" is not a standard Unix or Linux command, and (AFAIK)
does not exist as a builtin in any Unix/Linux shell.

> ~/tartest> tarx test
> tar (child): test: Cannot open: No such file or directory
> tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now
> tar: Child returned status 2
> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now

The error message implies that
a) tar can't find an input file called "test", and
b) that your tarx command doesn't expand it's argument
into a filename that tar /can/ find.

> Why doesn't it work from bin/ ?

What shell do you use?
Do you have an alias set for tar or tarx?

--
Lew Pitcher
"In Skills We Trust"

Subject: Re: tar problem
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On 2024-06-11 00:56, Lew Pitcher wrote:
> On Sun, 09 Jun 2024 14:36:49 +0000, db wrote:
>
>> I like to make life easy so I wrote a one-line script
>> for extracting the contents of a tar file. I copied it
>> into the /bin directory so I can run it from anywhere.
>> I tried it out in a test directory where I had it, and
>> where there is a small test tar file. Here is the dialogue
>> from running it, using both the local script and the one
>> in /bin:
>>
>> ~/tartest> ls
>> tarx test.tar.gz
>> ~/tartest> cat tarx
>> tar -xf $1.tar.gz
>> ~/tartest> cat ~/bin/tarx
>> tar -xf $1.tar.gz
>> ~/tartest> ./tarx test
>> ~/tartest> ls
>> tarx test test.tar.gz
>> ~/tartest> del -r test
>
> Is this a homegrown command, or does your distribution supply it?
> FWIW, "del" is not a standard Unix or Linux command, and (AFAIK)
> does not exist as a builtin in any Unix/Linux shell.

AFAIR, SuSE had it quite long ago. Probably an alias.

There is a dir command, though :-)

....

--
Cheers,
Carlos E.R.

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On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 00:55:24 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:

> On 2024-06-11 00:35, Lew Pitcher wrote:
>> On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 23:00:02 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>
>>> On 2024-06-10 14:35, Lew Pitcher wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 11:34:30 +0000, db wrote:
>
>
>>>> You haven't shown the contents of /bin/tarx
>>>
>>> There is no proof that such a file exists.
>>
>> Agreed. However, the OP asserts that he (quote)
>>>>>>>> copied it into the /bin directory
>
> Yes, the text does say that, which I found confusing compared with the
> command line paste.
>
>
>
>> and gives an example where he executes it from (presumably, the /bin
>> directory) in his path.
>
> A simple "which tarx" would clarify things.
>
>
>>>> Nor have you shown that there is no other version of your tarx script
>>>> in your PATH.
>>>
>>> That is the question to ask first :-)

OK:

~> which tarx
/home/db/bin/tarx

Hej Dieter

Som udgangspunkt er det ikke nødvendigt med efterkontrol af urinprøve
efter blærebetændelse.
Kun hvis symptomerne ikke er væk eller kommer igen.

--
db

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db <dieterhansbritz@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 00:55:24 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
>> On 2024-06-11 00:35, Lew Pitcher wrote:
>>> On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 23:00:02 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-06-10 14:35, Lew Pitcher wrote:

>>>>> Nor have you shown that there is no other version of your tarx
>>>>> script in your PATH.
>>>>
>>>> That is the question to ask first :-)
>
> OK:
>
> ~> which tarx
> /home/db/bin/tarx

Edit the /home/db/bin/tarx and add "set -x" as the first line, then run
the one from /home/db/bin/tarx and report what is output by bash in
"set -x" mode.

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On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 17:07:25 +0000, Rich wrote:

> db <dieterhansbritz@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 00:55:24 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>
>>> On 2024-06-11 00:35, Lew Pitcher wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 23:00:02 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2024-06-10 14:35, Lew Pitcher wrote:
>
>>>>>> Nor have you shown that there is no other version of your tarx
>>>>>> script in your PATH.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is the question to ask first :-)
>>
>> OK:
>>
>> ~> which tarx
>> /home/db/bin/tarx
>
> Edit the /home/db/bin/tarx and add "set -x" as the first line, then run
> the one from /home/db/bin/tarx and report what is output by bash in
> "set -x" mode.

or, just
sh -x tarx text

--
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Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> wrote at 19:12 this Sunday (GMT):
> At Sun, 09 Jun 2024 18:22:38 +0100 Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>>
>> db <dieterhansbritz@gmail.com> writes:
>> > I like to make life easy so I wrote a one-line script
>> > for extracting the contents of a tar file. I copied it
>> > into the /bin directory so I can run it from anywhere.
>> > I tried it out in a test directory where I had it, and
>> > where there is a small test tar file. Here is the dialogue
>> > from running it, using both the local script and the one
>> > in /bin:
>> >
>> > ~/tartest> ls
>> > tarx test.tar.gz
>> > ~/tartest> cat tarx
>> > tar -xf $1.tar.gz
>> > ~/tartest> cat ~/bin/tarx
>> > tar -xf $1.tar.gz
>> > ~/tartest> ./tarx test
>> > ~/tartest> ls
>> > tarx test test.tar.gz
>> > ~/tartest> del -r test
>> > ~/tartest> tarx test
>> > tar (child): test: Cannot open: No such file or directory
>> > tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now
>> > tar: Child returned status 2
>> > tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
>> >
>> > Why doesn't it work from bin/ ?
>
> What does 'which tarx' show? Does it show /bin/tarx?
>
> Note: you should *never* put random programs in /bin (or even /usr/bin). The
> only programs/files in these directories should be ones installed by your
> package management system. /bin is reserved for core / early boot programs
> and others would be in /usr/bin.

Technically, /bin is usually a symlink to /usr/bin, but still yeah never
put stuff in there.

> Locally provided programs should be in either /usr/local/bin or /opt/bin
> (depending on your file system usage philosiphy). These directories
> can/should be added to your $PATH. *Personally* provided programs should be
> in $HOME/bin, and this directory can be added to your $PATH as well.

I think $HOME/.local/bin is a common one too.

>>
>> Probably /bin/tarx isn't the same as ./tarx. What does
>> cat /bin/tarx
>> show?
>>
>

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On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 17:07:25 -0000 (UTC), Rich wrote:

> db <dieterhansbritz@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 11 Jun 2024 00:55:24 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>
>>> On 2024-06-11 00:35, Lew Pitcher wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 23:00:02 +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2024-06-10 14:35, Lew Pitcher wrote:
>
>>>>>> Nor have you shown that there is no other version of your tarx
>>>>>> script in your PATH.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is the question to ask first :-)
>>
>> OK:
>>
>> ~> which tarx /home/db/bin/tarx
>
> Edit the /home/db/bin/tarx and add "set -x" as the first line, then run
> the one from /home/db/bin/tarx and report what is output by bash in "set
> -x" mode.

(Sorry about the Danish extraneous text, a copy/paste
from an email from my doctor)
Did that:

~/bin> tarx ../tarfiles/NumNotes
tar (child): ../tarfiles/NumNotes: Cannot open: No such file or directory
tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now
tar: Child returned status 2
tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
~/bin> ls ../tarfiles/Num*
.../tarfiles/NumNotes.tar.gz

The last line proves that it's lying.
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On Mon, 10 Jun 2024 22:56:55 -0000 (UTC), Lew Pitcher wrote:

> On Sun, 09 Jun 2024 14:36:49 +0000, db wrote:
>
>> I like to make life easy so I wrote a one-line script for extracting
>> the contents of a tar file. I copied it into the /bin directory so I
>> can run it from anywhere.
>> I tried it out in a test directory where I had it, and where there is a
>> small test tar file. Here is the dialogue from running it, using both
>> the local script and the one in /bin:
>>
>> ~/tartest> ls tarx test.tar.gz ~/tartest> cat tarx tar -xf $1.tar.gz
>> ~/tartest> cat ~/bin/tarx tar -xf $1.tar.gz ~/tartest> ./tarx test
>> ~/tartest> ls tarx test test.tar.gz ~/tartest> del -r test
>
> Is this a homegrown command, or does your distribution supply it?
> FWIW, "del" is not a standard Unix or Linux command, and (AFAIK) does
> not exist as a builtin in any Unix/Linux shell.
>
>> ~/tartest> tarx test tar (child): test: Cannot open: No such file or
>> directory tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now tar: Child
>> returned status 2 tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
>
> The error message implies that a) tar can't find an input file called
> "test", and b) that your tarx command doesn't expand it's argument
> into a filename that tar /can/ find.
>
>> Why doesn't it work from bin/ ?
>
> What shell do you use?
> Do you have an alias set for tar or tarx?

del is an alias for rm -i, saving me that onerous -i {;]
bash, under Kubuntu
No alias set for tar or tarx

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On Sun, 09 Jun 2024 16:36:49 db wrote:
> I like to make life easy so I wrote a one-line script
> for extracting the contents of a tar file. I copied it
> into the /bin directory so I can run it from anywhere.

This is not really adressing your original question, but
since you want to make life easy, did you consider to have
tarx as alias for 'tar -xf' instead of a shell-script?

Also I wonder if the version of tar you are using really
recognizes gzipped files and inserts the -z option even
if it is not invoked with it.

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Why do you expect that if you tell tar to use a file named 'NumNotes'
that it should use a file named 'NumNotes.tar.gz' instead?

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On 2024-06-09 at 16:36 db wrote:
> I like to make life easy so I wrote a one-line script
> for extracting the contents of a tar file. I copied it
> into the /bin directory so I can run it from anywhere.
> I tried it out in a test directory where I had it, and
> where there is a small test tar file. Here is the dialogue
> from running it, using both the local script and the one
> in /bin:
>
> ~/tartest> ls
> tarx test.tar.gz
> ~/tartest> cat tarx
> tar -xf $1.tar.gz
> ~/tartest> cat ~/bin/tarx
> tar -xf $1.tar.gz
> ~/tartest> ./tarx test
> ~/tartest> ls
> tarx test test.tar.gz
> ~/tartest> del -r test
> ~/tartest> tarx test
> tar (child): test: Cannot open: No such file or directory
> tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now
> tar: Child returned status 2
> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
>
> Why doesn't it work from bin/ ?

Does it work if you specify the full path of the executable in ~/bin/,
i.e. '/home/db/bin/tarx test'?
If it does, what do 'type -a tarx' and 'hash -t tarx' commands return?

Subject: Re: tar problem
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At Wed, 12 Jun 2024 15:29:57 -0000 (UTC) nobody@nowhere.invalid (Marc Olschok) wrote:

>
> On Sun, 09 Jun 2024 16:36:49 db wrote:
> > I like to make life easy so I wrote a one-line script
> > for extracting the contents of a tar file. I copied it
> > into the /bin directory so I can run it from anywhere.
>
> This is not really adressing your original question, but
> since you want to make life easy, did you consider to have
> tarx as alias for 'tar -xf' instead of a shell-script?
>
> Also I wonder if the version of tar you are using really
> recognizes gzipped files and inserts the -z option even
> if it is not invoked with it.

Generally, tar under Linux is Gnu Tar, which does recognize compressed tar
files, but generally only doublely extensioned filenames (eg mumble.tar.gz or
mumble.tar.bz2, etc.)

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Ralf Fassel <ralfixx@gmx.de> writes:
> * db <dieterhansbritz@gmail.com>
> | ~/bin> tarx ../tarfiles/NumNotes
> | tar (child): ../tarfiles/NumNotes: Cannot open: No such file or directory
> --<snip-snip>--
> | ~/bin> ls ../tarfiles/Num*
> | ../tarfiles/NumNotes.tar.gz
>>
> | The last line proves that it's lying.
>
> Why do you expect that if you tell tar to use a file named 'NumNotes'
> that it should use a file named 'NumNotes.tar.gz' instead?

The script they quoted does “tar -xf $1.tar.gz”, i.e. it adds .tar.gz.

Presumably the script they are actually running is different.

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At Wed, 12 Jun 2024 20:16:06 +0100 Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>
> Ralf Fassel <ralfixx@gmx.de> writes:
> > * db <dieterhansbritz@gmail.com>
> > | ~/bin> tarx ../tarfiles/NumNotes
> > | tar (child): ../tarfiles/NumNotes: Cannot open: No such file or directory
> > --<snip-snip>--
> > | ~/bin> ls ../tarfiles/Num*
> > | ../tarfiles/NumNotes.tar.gz
> >>
> > | The last line proves that it's lying.
> >
> > Why do you expect that if you tell tar to use a file named 'NumNotes'
> > that it should use a file named 'NumNotes.tar.gz' instead?
>
> The script they quoted does "tar -xf $1.tar.gz", i.e. it adds .tar.gz.
>
> Presumably the script they are actually running is different.
>

Wondering: is there a space after "$1" (eg between that and the dot). Also: is
the script file a purely ASCII text file or does it contain UTF-8 characters --
is the dot really an ASCII period character or something else that "looks"
like a period. Bash won't like it if it is not an ASCII period and won't like
white space where it does not belong. Note the lack of "#!/bin/bash" at the
start of the file could also be causing problems.

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Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> writes:
> Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> The script they quoted does "tar -xf $1.tar.gz", i.e. it adds .tar.gz.
>>
>> Presumably the script they are actually running is different.
>
> Wondering: is there a space after "$1" (eg between that and the
> dot). Also: is the script file a purely ASCII text file or does it
> contain UTF-8 characters -- is the dot really an ASCII period
> character or something else that "looks" like a period. Bash won't
> like it if it is not an ASCII period and won't like white space where
> it does not belong.

I think you need to review the first post in the thread. They already
have a working script, all they need to do is run it instead of the
broken one; that is what they are having troble with. Knowing the
difference between the two scripts won’t help at all.

> Note the lack of "#!/bin/bash" at the start of the file could also be
> causing problems.

Again I think you need to review the first post in the thread. This
would not cause the problem that’s actually on display.

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comp / comp.os.linux.misc / Re: tar problem

Subject	Author
tar problem	db
Re: tar problem	db
Re: tar problem	Lew Pitcher
Path and/or alias finding	Carlos E.R.
Re: Path and/or alias finding	Robert Heller
Re: Path and/or alias finding	Lew Pitcher
Re: Path and/or alias finding	Carlos E.R.
Re: Path and/or alias finding	Lew Pitcher
Re: Path and/or alias finding	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
Re: Path and/or alias finding	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
Re: Path and/or alias finding	Carlos E.R.
Re: Path and/or alias finding	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
Re: Path and/or alias finding	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
Re: Path and/or alias finding	John-Paul Stewart
Re: Path and/or alias finding	Carlos E.R.
Re: Path and/or alias finding	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
Re: Path and/or alias finding	Lawrence D'Oliveiro
Re: tar problem	Richard Kettlewell
Re: tar problem	Robert Heller
Re: tar problem	db
Re: tar problem	Lew Pitcher
Re: tar problem	Carlos E. R.
Re: tar problem	Lew Pitcher
Re: tar problem	Carlos E. R.
Re: tar problem	db
Re: tar problem	Rich
Re: tar problem	db
Re: tar problem	Ralf Fassel
Re: tar problem	Richard Kettlewell
Re: tar problem	Carlos E. R.
Re: tar problem	Ralf Fassel
Re: tar problem	Robert Heller
Re: tar problem	Richard Kettlewell
Re: tar problem	Lew Pitcher
Re: tar problem	candycanearter07
Re: tar problem	Marc Olschok
Re: tar problem	Robert Heller
Re: tar problem	marrgol
Re: tar problem	Lew Pitcher
Re: tar problem	db
Re: tar problem	Carlos E. R.
Re: tar problem	Lew Pitcher
Re: tar problem	Marco Moock