New : Kera Desktop Environment for Linux

A single hacker has created a new Desktop environment with interesting features.

https://desktop.kerahq.com/

About two dozen super hackers might want to help get things out of alpha and into release.

"Currently, this is a product of a team of one. It’s me, Mutlu. I started working on this ten years ago. Eight years ago, I made my first appearance. Things happened, and I couldn’t find much time to work or someone to work with. I tried to create a proof-of-concept that was easy to understand and work with. Today, I believe I have finally achieved this, and I hope to extend the team and maybe have enough budget so that I can work on the project full-time. I hope Kera Desktop can go further thanks to the open-source community."

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On 5/19/24 3:13 AM, SugarBug wrote:
> New : Kera Desktop Environment for Linux
>
> A single hacker has created a new Desktop environment with interesting features.
>
> https://desktop.kerahq.com/
>
> About two dozen super hackers might want to help get things out of alpha and into release.
>
> "Currently, this is a product of a team of one. It’s me, Mutlu. I started working on this ten years ago. Eight years ago, I made my first appearance. Things happened, and I couldn’t find much time to work or someone to work with. I tried to create a proof-of-concept that was easy to understand and work with. Today, I believe I have finally achieved this, and I hope to extend the team and maybe have enough budget so that I can work on the project full-time. I hope Kera Desktop can go further thanks to the open-source community."

Looks nice. Downloaded, untarred, ldconfigged etc. This is just a data
point for you.

Slackware 14.2 on 13-YO GOOD hardware. Tried to start it in its own
subdirectory. Got this message:

bb:/stuff/Kera>Kera-Desktop
Kera-Desktop: symbol lookup error: /stuff/Kera/lib/libnw.so: undefined
symbol: gbm_bo_get_modifier

Flailed for a while and then deleted the whole thing.

Good luck with the project.

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be a sand shortage within ten years." -- M. Friedman (?)

On 5/19/2024 2:44 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 5/19/24 3:13 AM, SugarBug wrote:
>> New : Kera Desktop Environment for Linux
>>
>> A single hacker has created a new Desktop environment with interesting features.
>>
>> https://desktop.kerahq.com/
>>
>> About two dozen super hackers might want to help get things out of alpha and into release.
>>
>> "Currently, this is a product of a team of one. It’s me, Mutlu. I started working on this ten years ago. Eight years ago, I made my first appearance. Things happened, and I couldn’t find much time to work or someone to work with. I tried to create a proof-of-concept that was easy to understand and work with. Today, I believe I have finally achieved this, and I hope to extend the team and maybe have enough budget so that I can work on the project full-time. I hope Kera Desktop can go further thanks to the open-source community."
>
> Looks nice.  Downloaded, untarred, ldconfigged etc.  This is just a data point for you.
>
> Slackware 14.2 on 13-YO GOOD hardware.  Tried to start it in its own subdirectory.  Got this message:
>
> bb:/stuff/Kera>Kera-Desktop
> Kera-Desktop: symbol lookup error: /stuff/Kera/lib/libnw.so: undefined symbol: gbm_bo_get_modifier
>
> Flailed for a while and then deleted the whole thing.
>
> Good luck with the project.
>

The first hit in Google for that symbol is here:

puppeteer/puppeteer

https://github.com/puppeteer/puppeteer/issues/9669

"...reinstalling libgbm can solve this problem"

[generic buffer management API]

And you're on Slack, and maybe this kit wasn't aligned
with a Slack lineup.

Generally, when launching something, it helps to announce
what distro name and distro version it was tested under.
Then, if a person wants to get an initial build that
is "guaranteed to work", we know the success recipe.

Pictures of the desktop, are in-line here, once you scroll
down a bit. You don't need to build anything to look at it.

https://gitlab.com/kerahq/Kera-Desktop

"Mostly web technologies. Kera Desktop is written in
vanilla javascript and does not rely on third-party frameworks
but uses some independent libraries."

"Does Kera Desktop only support web apps? [Progressive Web Apps or PWA]
For now, yes. Support for Linux apps is perfectly possible and
on the roadmap. For other platforms, we will see what's possible."

??? Making a smartphone out of a Linux desktop ? Um...
I think that's been done already.

And Google has a package so you can install ChromeOS on your PC right now.
I guess somebody likes the ChromeOS.

Paul

On Sun, 19 May 2024 11:44:49 -0700, The Real Bev wrote:

> bb:/stuff/Kera>Kera-Desktop Kera-Desktop: symbol lookup error:
> /stuff/Kera/lib/libnw.so: undefined symbol: gbm_bo_get_modifier

As always, the cutting-edge stuff is best left to those who know what
they’re doing.

Let the pros knock it into shape, until it’s fit for the regular folks to
use.

["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.misc.]
On 2024-05-19, SugarBug <3883@sugar.bug> wrote:
> New : Kera Desktop Environment for Linux
>
> A single hacker has created a new Desktop environment with interesting features.
>
> https://desktop.kerahq.com/
>
> About two dozen super hackers might want to help get things out of alpha and into release.
>
> "Currently, this is a product of a team of one. It’s me, Mutlu. I started working on this ten years ago. Eight years ago, I made my first appearance. Things happened, and I couldn’t find much time to work or someone to work with. I tried to create a proof-of-concept that was easy to understand and work with. Today, I believe I have finally achieved this, and I hope to extend the team and maybe have enough budget so that I can work on the project full-time. I hope Kera Desktop can go further thanks to the open-source community."
>
>

It looks interesting, I like the ideas in it. A lot of this can be
done, albeit with more difficulty, in FVWM which is what I use. I am
looking for a potential replacement when X11 is disposed of, this
might be worth close examination.

SugarBug <3883@sugar.bug>:
> New : Kera Desktop Environment for Linux

My goodness, just what Linux desktop distros need: yet anolther DE,
for there isn't enough choice right now. We have only:
Budgie, Cinnamon, Deepin, Enlightenment, GNOME, KDE, LXDE, LXQt, MATE,
Pantheon, Trinity, Unity. XFCE, ...?

and now Kera, to simplify matters? )-:

Yrrah

On 2024-05-20, Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> wrote:
> ["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.misc.]
> On 2024-05-19, SugarBug <3883@sugar.bug> wrote:
>> New : Kera Desktop Environment for Linux
>>
>> A single hacker has created a new Desktop environment with interesting features.
>>
>> https://desktop.kerahq.com/
>>
>> About two dozen super hackers might want to help get things out of alpha and into release.
>>
>> "Currently, this is a product of a team of one. It’s me, Mutlu. I started working on this ten years ago. Eight years ago, I made my first appearance. Things happened, and I couldn’t find much time to work or someone to work with. I tried to create a proof-of-concept that was easy to understand and work with. Today, I believe I have finally achieved this, and I hope to extend the team and maybe have enough budget so that I can work on the project full-time. I hope Kera Desktop can go further thanks to the open-source community."
>>
>>
>
> It looks interesting, I like the ideas in it. A lot of this can be
> done, albeit with more difficulty, in FVWM which is what I use. I am
> looking for a potential replacement when X11 is disposed of, this
> might be worth close examination.
>
>

Very nice! not up my style but I like the effort, currently using sway
and I am happy but always happy to see other ones pop up.

Keep up the good work.

Happy Hacking
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On 2024-05-20, Yrrah <Yrrah-aolu@aolu.invalid> wrote:

> SugarBug <3883@sugar.bug>:
>
>> New : Kera Desktop Environment for Linux
>
> My goodness, just what Linux desktop distros need: yet anolther DE,
> for there isn't enough choice right now. We have only:
> Budgie, Cinnamon, Deepin, Enlightenment, GNOME, KDE, LXDE, LXQt, MATE,
> Pantheon, Trinity, Unity. XFCE, ...?
>
> and now Kera, to simplify matters? )-:

https://xkcd.com/927/

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On 19/05/2024 11:13, SugarBug wrote:
> New : Kera Desktop Environment for Linux
>
> A single hacker has created a new Desktop environment with interesting features.
>
> https://desktop.kerahq.com/
>
> About two dozen super hackers might want to help get things out of alpha and into release.
>
> "Currently, this is a product of a team of one. It’s me, Mutlu. I started working on this ten years ago. Eight years ago, I made my first appearance. Things happened, and I couldn’t find much time to work or someone to work with. I tried to create a proof-of-concept that was easy to understand and work with. Today, I believe I have finally achieved this, and I hope to extend the team and maybe have enough budget so that I can work on the project full-time. I hope Kera Desktop can go further thanks to the open-source community."
>
>

Does look cool, but I use a tiling window manager, so it doesn't really
interest me.

PS: Please, please, please, wrap your text around 72 characters. It
helps people who use consoles a lot, and it's generally good netiquette.
Your newsreader should have this setting.

On 5/19/24 8:06 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Sun, 19 May 2024 11:44:49 -0700, The Real Bev wrote:
>
>> bb:/stuff/Kera>Kera-Desktop Kera-Desktop: symbol lookup error:
>> /stuff/Kera/lib/libnw.so: undefined symbol: gbm_bo_get_modifier
>
> As always, the cutting-edge stuff is best left to those who know what
> they’re doing.
>
> Let the pros knock it into shape, until it’s fit for the regular folks to
> use.

It's my understanding that this is an alpha. Accordingly, I assume that
the developers are actually interested in problems. Since I couldn't
find a way to contact the author, I posted here. DATA POINT, not criticism.

Is "Kevin" a masculine "Karen"?

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To define recursion, we must first define recursion.

On Mon, 20 May 2024 13:36:46 +0200, Yrrah wrote:

> My goodness, just what Linux desktop distros need: yet anolther DE, for
> there isn't enough choice right now.

Because there’s no way a platform that offers choices can compete against
proprietary ones like Microsoft and Apple, which don’t offer you such
choices.

["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.misc.]
On 2024-05-20, Yrrah <Yrrah-aolu@aolu.invalid> wrote:
> SugarBug <3883@sugar.bug>:
>
>> New : Kera Desktop Environment for Linux
>
> My goodness, just what Linux desktop distros need: yet anolther DE,
> for there isn't enough choice right now. We have only:
> Budgie, Cinnamon, Deepin, Enlightenment, GNOME, KDE, LXDE, LXQt, MATE,
> Pantheon, Trinity, Unity. XFCE, ...?
>
> and now Kera, to simplify matters? )-:
>
> Yrrah
>

There have always been lots of Window Managers for Linux. Even when I
started using Linux in the early 2000s there was

GNOME
KDE
Enlightenment
WindowMaker
FVWM
IceWM
BlackBox
FluxBox
Sawfish
AfterStep
XFCE3
AnotherLevelUp
AmiWM
TWM
MWM

just off the top of my head, I'm sure there are more I'm not
remembering from the early 2000s.

On 21/05/2024 12:49, Borax Man wrote:
> ["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.misc.]
> On 2024-05-20, Yrrah <Yrrah-aolu@aolu.invalid> wrote:
>> SugarBug <3883@sugar.bug>:
>>
>>> New : Kera Desktop Environment for Linux
>>
>> My goodness, just what Linux desktop distros need: yet anolther DE,
>> for there isn't enough choice right now. We have only:
>> Budgie, Cinnamon, Deepin, Enlightenment, GNOME, KDE, LXDE, LXQt, MATE,
>> Pantheon, Trinity, Unity. XFCE, ...?
>>
>> and now Kera, to simplify matters? )-:
>>
>> Yrrah
>>
>
> There have always been lots of Window Managers for Linux. Even when I
> started using Linux in the early 2000s there was
>
> GNOME
> KDE
> Enlightenment
> WindowMaker
> FVWM
> IceWM
> BlackBox
> FluxBox
> Sawfish
> AfterStep
> XFCE3
> AnotherLevelUp
> AmiWM
> TWM
> MWM
>
> just off the top of my head, I'm sure there are more I'm not
> remembering from the early 2000s.

And the real thing about them is none of them are essential or cannot be
changed
The dials on the dashboard move, but the underlying vehicle remains the same

--
“A leader is best When people barely know he exists. Of a good leader,
who talks little,When his work is done, his aim fulfilled,They will say,
“We did this ourselves.”

― Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching

On Sun, 19 May 2024 05:13:56 -0500
SugarBug <3883@sugar.bug> wrote:

> New : Kera Desktop Environment for Linux
>
> A single hacker has created a new Desktop environment with
> interesting features.
>
> https://desktop.kerahq.com/
>
> About two dozen super hackers might want to help get things out of
> alpha and into release.
>
> "Currently, this is a product of a team of one. It’s me, Mutlu. I
> started working on this ten years ago. Eight years ago, I made my
> first appearance. Things happened, and I couldn’t find much time to
> work or someone to work with. I tried to create a proof-of-concept
> that was easy to understand and work with. Today, I believe I have
> finally achieved this, and I hope to extend the team and maybe have
> enough budget so that I can work on the project full-time. I hope
> Kera Desktop can go further thanks to the open-source community."
>
>

the big buttons make it feel more like something designed for
touchscreens, which i certainly don't mind, it's about time GNOME got
some competition in that field.

--
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GeorgeMoody

On 2024-05-21, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On 21/05/2024 12:49, Borax Man wrote:
>> ["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.misc.]
>> On 2024-05-20, Yrrah <Yrrah-aolu@aolu.invalid> wrote:
>>> SugarBug <3883@sugar.bug>:
>>>
>>>> New : Kera Desktop Environment for Linux
>>>
>>> My goodness, just what Linux desktop distros need: yet anolther DE,
>>> for there isn't enough choice right now. We have only:
>>> Budgie, Cinnamon, Deepin, Enlightenment, GNOME, KDE, LXDE, LXQt, MATE,
>>> Pantheon, Trinity, Unity. XFCE, ...?
>>>
>>> and now Kera, to simplify matters? )-:
>>>
>>> Yrrah
>>>
>>
>> There have always been lots of Window Managers for Linux. Even when I
>> started using Linux in the early 2000s there was
>>
>> GNOME
>> KDE
>> Enlightenment
>> WindowMaker
>> FVWM
>> IceWM
>> BlackBox
>> FluxBox
>> Sawfish
>> AfterStep
>> XFCE3
>> AnotherLevelUp
>> AmiWM
>> TWM
>> MWM
>>
>> just off the top of my head, I'm sure there are more I'm not
>> remembering from the early 2000s.
>
> And the real thing about them is none of them are essential or cannot be
> changed
> The dials on the dashboard move, but the underlying vehicle remains the same
>

FVWM is quite configurable, its almost better described as a framework
to build a Window Manager rather than a Window Manager itself. You
can make your own modules and functions, change the behaviour, build
new GUI components.

The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote at 18:44 this Sunday (GMT):
> On 5/19/24 3:13 AM, SugarBug wrote:
>> New : Kera Desktop Environment for Linux
>>
>> A single hacker has created a new Desktop environment with interesting features.
>>
>> https://desktop.kerahq.com/
>>
>> About two dozen super hackers might want to help get things out of alpha and into release.
>>
>> "Currently, this is a product of a team of one. It’s me, Mutlu. I started working on this ten years ago. Eight years ago, I made my first appearance. Things happened, and I couldn’t find much time to work or someone to work with. I tried to create a proof-of-concept that was easy to understand and work with. Today, I believe I have finally achieved this, and I hope to extend the team and maybe have enough budget so that I can work on the project full-time. I hope Kera Desktop can go further thanks to the open-source community."
>
> Looks nice. Downloaded, untarred, ldconfigged etc. This is just a data
> point for you.
>
> Slackware 14.2 on 13-YO GOOD hardware. Tried to start it in its own
> subdirectory. Got this message:
>
> bb:/stuff/Kera>Kera-Desktop
> Kera-Desktop: symbol lookup error: /stuff/Kera/lib/libnw.so: undefined
> symbol: gbm_bo_get_modifier
>
> Flailed for a while and then deleted the whole thing.
>
> Good luck with the project.

Normally, I'd love cutting edge stuff, but I recently nuked my
EndeavourOS install by accident, so I'm staying away from that stuff for
now.
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On Fri, 24 May 2024 00:25:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:

> Normally, I'd love cutting edge stuff, but I recently nuked my
> EndeavourOS install by accident, so I'm staying away from that stuff for
> now.

Do you keep a separate OS partition? My recommendation is to have a second
one for trying alternative distros. Less chance of a) breaking your user
files, b) breaking the previous known-good OS.

In comp.os.linux.misc Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
> On Fri, 24 May 2024 00:25:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:
>
>> Normally, I'd love cutting edge stuff, but I recently nuked my
>> EndeavourOS install by accident, so I'm staying away from that stuff
>> for now.
>
> Do you keep a separate OS partition? My recommendation is to have a
> second one for trying alternative distros. Less chance of a)
> breaking your user files, b) breaking the previous known-good OS.

Another way to try out alternative distros without risk of nuking your
main system is to install VirtualBox, then try out the alternative
distros by installing them into VirtualBox VM's. One can install as
many distros as one's free disk space allows, can run as many at the
same time as the available RAM allows on the host, and VB provides
snapshots and rollback capability for the VM's so one can further
experiment with a given distro knowing one can rollback to a last known
good state to try something again that broke itself this time, within a
given distro
..

Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote at 05:40 this Friday (GMT):
> On Fri, 24 May 2024 00:25:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:
>
>> Normally, I'd love cutting edge stuff, but I recently nuked my
>> EndeavourOS install by accident, so I'm staying away from that stuff for
>> now.
>
> Do you keep a separate OS partition? My recommendation is to have a second
> one for trying alternative distros. Less chance of a) breaking your user
> files, b) breaking the previous known-good OS.

Yeah, I keep a separate home partition so I didn't lose anything super
super important (plus I keep backups)..
I'm currently running Debian tho, just to be safe.
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Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> writes:

>
> "Mostly web technologies. Kera Desktop is written in
> vanilla javascript and does not rely on third-party frameworks
> but uses some independent libraries."
>
> "Does Kera Desktop only support web apps? [Progressive Web Apps or PWA]
> For now, yes. Support for Linux apps is perfectly possible and
> on the roadmap. For other platforms, we will see what's possible."
>

That sounds pretty gross to me. Not my cup of tea at all. :-)

I guess I'm glad that it pleases the developer and keeps them busy and
off the streets, but it's not for me. To be honest, there are already so
many desktops and window managers that, even if I were looking for a
change, I'd likely go with something else.

I think that, if I really wanted some change, I'd try one of the tiling
window managers. I have a number of friends who like those and they're
very passionate about them.

I use Linux Mint MATE currently and am not really looking for
alternatives. I used to try all kinds of new distros and window managers
30 years ago, but I got kind of tired of farting around with all of
that. Now I like to just use my computer for the things I own a computer
to get accomplished. Let me use the apps I like and don't get in my
way too much and I'm happy.

Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> writes:

>
> FVWM is quite configurable, its almost better described as a framework
> to build a Window Manager rather than a Window Manager itself. You
> can make your own modules and functions, change the behaviour, build
> new GUI components.

I used fvwm back when I was first trying out Linux. I then switched to
what was, IIRC, a modification of fvwm - Afterstep.

On 2024-05-25, Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
> Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> writes:
>
>>
>> FVWM is quite configurable, its almost better described as a framework
>> to build a Window Manager rather than a Window Manager itself. You
>> can make your own modules and functions, change the behaviour, build
>> new GUI components.
>
> I used fvwm back when I was first trying out Linux. I then switched to
> what was, IIRC, a modification of fvwm - Afterstep

I used Afterstep at work ages ago when I was doing IT support.
AfterStep is still around, though I don't like v2 all that much
because its so slow to load.

["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.misc.]
On 2024-05-19, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
> On 5/19/2024 2:44 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
>> On 5/19/24 3:13 AM, SugarBug wrote:
>>> New : Kera Desktop Environment for Linux
>>>
>>> A single hacker has created a new Desktop environment with interesting features.
>>>
>>> https://desktop.kerahq.com/
>>>
>>> About two dozen super hackers might want to help get things out of alpha and into release.
>>>
>>> "Currently, this is a product of a team of one. It’s me, Mutlu. I started working on this ten years ago. Eight years ago, I made my first appearance. Things happened, and I couldn’t find much time to work or someone to work with. I tried to create a proof-of-concept that was easy to understand and work with. Today, I believe I have finally achieved this, and I hope to extend the team and maybe have enough budget so that I can work on the project full-time. I hope Kera Desktop can go further thanks to the open-source community."
>>
>> Looks nice.  Downloaded, untarred, ldconfigged etc.  This is just a data point for you.
>>
>> Slackware 14.2 on 13-YO GOOD hardware.  Tried to start it in its own subdirectory.  Got this message:
>>
>> bb:/stuff/Kera>Kera-Desktop
>> Kera-Desktop: symbol lookup error: /stuff/Kera/lib/libnw.so: undefined symbol: gbm_bo_get_modifier
>>
>> Flailed for a while and then deleted the whole thing.
>>
>> Good luck with the project.
>>
>
> The first hit in Google for that symbol is here:
>
> puppeteer/puppeteer
>
> https://github.com/puppeteer/puppeteer/issues/9669
>
> "...reinstalling libgbm can solve this problem"
>
> [generic buffer management API]
>
> And you're on Slack, and maybe this kit wasn't aligned
> with a Slack lineup.
>
> Generally, when launching something, it helps to announce
> what distro name and distro version it was tested under.
> Then, if a person wants to get an initial build that
> is "guaranteed to work", we know the success recipe.
>
> Pictures of the desktop, are in-line here, once you scroll
> down a bit. You don't need to build anything to look at it.
>
> https://gitlab.com/kerahq/Kera-Desktop
>
> "Mostly web technologies. Kera Desktop is written in
> vanilla javascript and does not rely on third-party frameworks
> but uses some independent libraries."
>
> "Does Kera Desktop only support web apps? [Progressive Web Apps or PWA]
> For now, yes. Support for Linux apps is perfectly possible and
> on the roadmap. For other platforms, we will see what's possible."
>
> ??? Making a smartphone out of a Linux desktop ? Um...
> I think that's been done already.
>
> And Google has a package so you can install ChromeOS on your PC right now.
> I guess somebody likes the ChromeOS.
>
> Paul

A Desktop Environment based on Web Technologies? I don't like to
criticise others peoples hard work, but for me, this is a trend I
cannot support at all. The move to web based everything is a problem,
and this is a step in the wrong direction.

No, just no.

>
> A Desktop Environment based on Web Technologies? I don't like to
> criticise others peoples hard work, but for me, this is a trend I
> cannot support at all. The move to web based everything is a problem,
> and this is a step in the wrong direction.
>
> No, just no.

I agree with this 100%, I went to take a look and was expecting
C/C++,qt/gtk/rust or even go, I am tired of some lazy programmers not wanting
to learn a system programming language and instead use crappy javascript/node for
desktop apps. I refuse to install any Electron app, I rather have TUI's
and CLI apps or at least real programs with systems languages.
What kind of hacker is lazy to learn and explore a real programming language?
LOL **roll eyes**

Happy Hacking
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On 2024-05-26, rek2 hispagatos <rek2@hispagatos.org.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> A Desktop Environment based on Web Technologies? I don't like to
>> criticise others peoples hard work, but for me, this is a trend I
>> cannot support at all. The move to web based everything is a problem,
>> and this is a step in the wrong direction.
>>
>> No, just no.
>
>
> I agree with this 100%, I went to take a look and was expecting
> C/C++,qt/gtk/rust or even go, I am tired of some lazy programmers not wanting
> to learn a system programming language and instead use crappy javascript/node for
> desktop apps. I refuse to install any Electron app, I rather have TUI's
> and CLI apps or at least real programs with systems languages.
> What kind of hacker is lazy to learn and explore a real programming language?
> LOL **roll eyes**

The sad thing is, people are putting effort into this work, but I
agree. Electron apps, the only one I tolerate is Spotify, and that I
use rarely. These technologies though are not fit for purpose for
system apps and DEs, they're just not. Its like watching someone
build a shed out of pasta sheets. Sure, there is effort, but Its just
wrong. Developers need to learn to use appropriate tools, not think
they can fit square pegs into round holes.