Hi,

for some reason, tint2 keeps crashing at random. The only thing that
seems to consistently crash it is by disconnecting a Bluetooth device.
Checking coredumpctl, it says there is a SIGSEGV error. Any ideas how to
fix it or a suggestion for a better taskbar? (no polybar)
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On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 13:56:21 -0600, candycanearter07 wrote:
>
> for some reason, tint2 keeps crashing at random. The only thing that
> seems to consistently crash it is by disconnecting a Bluetooth
> device. Checking coredumpctl, it says there is a SIGSEGV error. Any
> ideas how to fix it or a suggestion for a better taskbar? (no polybar)

You could had explained what tint2 is, as I doubt it's commonly used. A
search engine told me that it's a panel add-on for window managers,
providing icons for connected devices and others.

Can't other desktop manager's panels substitute functions tint2 comes with?
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In comp.os.linux.misc Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 13:56:21 -0600, candycanearter07 wrote:
>>
>> for some reason, tint2 keeps crashing at random. The only thing that
>> seems to consistently crash it is by disconnecting a Bluetooth
>> device. Checking coredumpctl, it says there is a SIGSEGV error. Any
>> ideas how to fix it or a suggestion for a better taskbar? (no polybar)
>
> You could had explained what tint2 is, as I doubt it's commonly used.

I was all excited about there being a new version of Tint, my
favourite Tetris clone. :)

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tint2 seems to segfault nowadays because of recent changes in glib.
However, the code is frozen because – as it seems – the maintainer
does not want to update it anymore:

https://gitlab.com/o9000/tint2/-/commit/f3aa2ef0c61838ce16a88733e4d31990c5b5cdf2

You could try xfce4-panel, which does similar things,
or hope for the fork to gain some momentum:

https://gitlab.com/nick87720z/tint2/

How about you keep your flaming to yourself if you can’t
even invest 30 seconds into researching what tint2 is?
It is actually widely used together with e.g. openbox.

On 11/13/23 19:35, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 13:56:21 -0600, candycanearter07 wrote:
>>
>> for some reason, tint2 keeps crashing at random. The only thing that
>> seems to consistently crash it is by disconnecting a Bluetooth
>> device. Checking coredumpctl, it says there is a SIGSEGV error. Any
>> ideas how to fix it or a suggestion for a better taskbar? (no polybar)
>
> You could had explained what tint2 is, as I doubt it's commonly used. A
> search engine told me that it's a panel add-on for window managers,
> providing icons for connected devices and others.

Sorry

> Can't other desktop manager's panels substitute functions tint2 comes with?

I'm going to try xfce4-panel, as per Philipp's suggestion. For some
reason, trying to reply to their message spits an error?
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On 2023-11-13 20:56, candycanearter07 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> for some reason, tint2 keeps crashing at random. The only thing that
> seems to consistently crash it is by disconnecting a Bluetooth device.
> Checking coredumpctl, it says there is a SIGSEGV error. Any ideas how to
> fix it or a suggestion for a better taskbar? (no polybar)

If there is a coredump, I suggest you create a bug report with your
distribution.

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On 2023-11-14, candycanearter07 <no@thanks.net> wrote:
> On 11/13/23 19:35, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
>> On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 13:56:21 -0600, candycanearter07 wrote:
>>>
>>> for some reason, tint2 keeps crashing at random. The only thing that
>>> seems to consistently crash it is by disconnecting a Bluetooth
>>> device. Checking coredumpctl, it says there is a SIGSEGV error. Any
>>> ideas how to fix it or a suggestion for a better taskbar? (no polybar)
>>
>> You could had explained what tint2 is, as I doubt it's commonly used. A
>> search engine told me that it's a panel add-on for window managers,
>> providing icons for connected devices and others.
>
> Sorry
>
>> Can't other desktop manager's panels substitute functions tint2 comes with?
>
> I'm going to try xfce4-panel, as per Philipp's suggestion. For some
> reason, trying to reply to their message spits an error?

I use openbox with lxpanel

On 2023-11-14 14:27, candycanearter07 wrote:
> On 11/13/23 19:35, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
>> On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 13:56:21 -0600, candycanearter07 wrote:

>
>> Can't other desktop manager's panels substitute functions tint2 comes
>> with?

What are those functions?

That way we might offer better help.

>
> I'm going to try xfce4-panel, as per Philipp's suggestion. For some
> reason, trying to reply to their message spits an error?

Ah, I see that. The message says:

Alert

The author of this message has requested that responses be
sent only to the author. If you also want to reply to the
newsgroup, add a new row to the addressing area, choose
Newsgroup from the recipients list, and enter the name
of the newsgroup.

This is because he has this header:

Followup-To: poster

I find this request ridiculous, and would click "ok", remove his
address, and write the names of the newsgroups manually (you can copy
paste them).

It is in any case impossibly to honour his request, as most posters here
are using faked email addresses on Usenet (including you and me).

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On Tue, 14 Nov 2023 08:38:04 +0100, Philipp Ludwig wrote:
>
> How about you keep your flaming to yourself if you can’t
> even invest 30 seconds into researching what tint2 is?
> It is actually widely used together with e.g. openbox.

Where have I flamed?

Not using the manager he used I did a quick look what it could be (the OT
should mention it).

Using Linux since a quarter of a century this year I never heard about
tint2. I doubt many others. But I guessed correctly that it was for a(ny)
window manager. Openbox seems to just be an example.

<https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/tint2>

| tint2 is a simple, unobtrusive and light panel for Xorg. It can be
| configured to include a system tray, a task list, a battery monitor
| and more. Its look is configurable and it only has few dependencies,
| making it ideal for window managers like Openbox, that do not come
| with a panel. ^^^^

Now here's a flame. You should mention F'up2 poster if you set it. Thus I
ignored it. Also did you not quote. Learn to post, newbie!
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On Tue, 14 Nov 2023 22:04:10 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
> On 2023-11-14 14:27, candycanearter07 wrote:
>> On 11/13/23 19:35, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
>>> On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 13:56:21 -0600, candycanearter07 wrote:
>
>
>>
>>> Can't other desktop manager's panels substitute functions tint2
>>> comes with?
>
> What are those functions?

That to find out was implied by my (this) question. :-)

> That way we might offer better help.
>
>> I'm going to try xfce4-panel, as per Philipp's suggestion. For some
>> reason, trying to reply to their message spits an error?
>
> Ah, I see that. The message says:
>
> Alert
>
> The author of this message has requested that responses be
> sent only to the author. If you also want to reply to the
> newsgroup, add a new row to the addressing area, choose
> Newsgroup from the recipients list, and enter the name
> of the newsgroup.
>
> This is because he has this header:
>
> Followup-To: poster
>
> I find this request ridiculous, and would click "ok", remove his
> address, and write the names of the newsgroups manually (you can copy
> paste them).

While accusing me of flaming he also did not announce the F'up2
poster. Luckily my client also catches these things, and lets me decide
how to go from there.

> It is in any case impossibly to honour his request, as most posters
> here are using faked email addresses on Usenet (including you and me).

Nice!

I didn't even cared to check his email address for validity.

~$ host lenovo.lan
Host lenovo.lan not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)

What a c**t! (Yeah, that's a flame)
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In comp.os.linux.x, Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:
> I was all excited about there being a new version of Tint, my
> favourite Tetris clone. :)

https://github.com/Eli-the-Bearded/notint

Elijah
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On 2023-11-15 02:07, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Nov 2023 08:38:04 +0100, Philipp Ludwig wrote:
>>
>> How about you keep your flaming to yourself if you can’t
>> even invest 30 seconds into researching what tint2 is?
>> It is actually widely used together with e.g. openbox.
>
> Where have I flamed?

I didn't see any flames in your post.

>
> Not using the manager he used I did a quick look what it could be (the OT
> should mention it).
>
> Using Linux since a quarter of a century this year I never heard about
> tint2. I doubt many others. But I guessed correctly that it was for a(ny)
> window manager. Openbox seems to just be an example.
>
> <https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/tint2>
>
> | tint2 is a simple, unobtrusive and light panel for Xorg. It can be
> | configured to include a system tray, a task list, a battery monitor
> | and more. Its look is configurable and it only has few dependencies,
> | making it ideal for window managers like Openbox, that do not come
> | with a panel. ^^^^
>
> Now here's a flame. You should mention F'up2 poster if you set it. Thus I
> ignored it. Also did you not quote. Learn to post, newbie!

Followup-To: poster

Thunderbird replaces "poster" with the address in "From". Maybe Emacs is
missing a feature :-p

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Carlos E.R.

On 14/11/2023 21:04, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> This is because he has this header:
>
>   Followup-To: poster
>
> I find this request ridiculous, and would click "ok", remove his
> address, and write the names of the newsgroups manually (you can copy
> paste them).
>
> It is in any case impossibly to honour his request, as most posters here
> are using faked email addresses on Usenet (including you and me).

Of course. We have been around the internet long enough to understand
the downsides of revealing our true identities to every nutjob and web
crawler.

Usenet has no rules as such. There is only what people choose to do, and
if what they do offends there is the kill file.

It is a pity that governments do not allow similar freedoms outside of it.

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On 15/11/2023 01:13, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:

> Nice!
>
> I didn't even cared to check his email address for validity.
>
> ~$ host lenovo.lan
> Host lenovo.lan not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
>
> What a c**t! (Yeah, that's a flame)

Well, amazingly idiotic, for sure.

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that sound good.

Burton Hillis (William Vaughn, American columnist)

On 2023-11-15 12:30, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 15/11/2023 01:13, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
>
>> Nice!
>>
>> I didn't even cared to check his email address for validity.
>>
>> ~$ host lenovo.lan
>> Host lenovo.lan not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
>>
>> What a c**t! (Yeah, that's a flame)
>
> Well, amazingly idiotic, for sure.

https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6762#appendix-G

Appendix G. Private DNS Namespaces

The special treatment of names ending in ".local." has been
implemented in Macintosh computers since the days of Mac OS 9, and
continues today in Mac OS X and iOS. There are also implementations
for Microsoft Windows [B4W], Linux, and other platforms.

Some network operators setting up private internal networks
("intranets") have used unregistered top-level domains, and some may
have used the ".local" top-level domain. Using ".local" as a private
top-level domain conflicts with Multicast DNS and may cause problems
for users. Clients can be configured to send both Multicast and
Unicast DNS queries in parallel for these names, and this does allow
names to be looked up both ways, but this results in additional
network traffic and additional delays in name resolution, as well as
potentially creating user confusion when it is not clear whether any
given result was received via link-local multicast from a peer on the
same link, or from the configured unicast name server. Because of
this, we recommend against using ".local" as a private Unicast DNS
top-level domain. We do not recommend use of unregistered top-level
domains at all, but should network operators decide to do this, the
following top-level domains have been used on private internal
networks without the problems caused by trying to reuse ".local." for
this purpose:

.intranet.
.internal.
.private.
.corp.
.home.
.lan.

:-)

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Carlos E.R.

On 11/14/23 15:04, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2023-11-14 14:27, candycanearter07 wrote:
>> On 11/13/23 19:35, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
>>> On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 13:56:21 -0600, candycanearter07 wrote:
>
>
>>
>>> Can't other desktop manager's panels substitute functions tint2 comes
>>> with?
>
> What are those functions?
>
> That way we might offer better help.

"Displays list of windows, time, and systray".
I had tried polybar before, but decided against it because it has no
native window list support for some reason.

>>
>> I'm going to try xfce4-panel, as per Philipp's suggestion. For some
>> reason, trying to reply to their message spits an error?
>
> Ah, I see that. The message says:
>
>   Alert
>
>   The author of this message has requested that responses be
>   sent only to the author. If you also want to reply to the
>   newsgroup, add a new row to the addressing area, choose
>   Newsgroup from the recipients list, and enter the name
>   of the newsgroup.
>
> This is because he has this header:
>
>   Followup-To: poster
>
> I find this request ridiculous, and would click "ok", remove his
> address, and write the names of the newsgroups manually (you can copy
> paste them).
>
> It is in any case impossibly to honour his request, as most posters here
> are using faked email addresses on Usenet (including you and me).

Ohh, yeah that is pretty silly.
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In comp.os.linux.misc Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.x, Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:
>> I was all excited about there being a new version of Tint, my
>> favourite Tetris clone. :)
>
> https://github.com/Eli-the-Bearded/notint

Neat. I wasn't really wanting anything more from Tint actually, but
your alternate game modes but it might be fun to try out one day.

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On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 11:05:42 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>
> On 2023-11-15 02:07, Andreas Kohlbach wrote:
>
>> Now here's a flame. You should mention F'up2 poster if you set
>> it. Thus I
>> ignored it. Also did you not quote. Learn to post, newbie!
>
> Followup-To: poster
>
> Thunderbird replaces "poster" with the address in "From". Maybe Emacs
> is missing a feature :-p

Gnus (running on Emacs) is warning.

But many readers do not, although abiding it. Then people wonder where
their posting ended up. Thus one should always mention a "F'up2 poster".
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