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* UUCP connection "Timed out in chat script"kyonshi
+* Re: UUCP connection "Timed out in chat script"Ed Ravin
|`- Re: UUCP connection "Timed out in chat script"kyonshi
`* Re: UUCP connection "Timed out in chat script"David W. Hodgins
 `* Re: UUCP connection "Timed out in chat script"kyonshi
  `- Re: UUCP connection "Timed out in chat script"David W. Hodgins

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Subject: UUCP connection "Timed out in chat script"
From: kyonshi
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp, comp.os.linux.misc
Organization: Erebor InterNetNews
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2024 13:12 UTC
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From: gmkeros@gmail.com (kyonshi)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: UUCP connection "Timed out in chat script"
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2024 15:12:29 +0200
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I already have an installation on one of my machines in which I can
connect to multiple other machines (both Debian) via tcp and Taylor UUCP.

Now I want to make a connection between my notebook and my server, and for
some reason the connection eludes me so far. It clearly connects (via ssh
pipe), but then times out in chat script according to the log. This
happens from both sides, and I cannot see any issue with the configuration
on either side.

Is there a way to get more information as to why it times out? Or what
exactly it is doing when it tries to connect? So far I have not found any
logs that get into it deeper than the normal uucp Log file in /var/log/
uucp.

Subject: Re: UUCP connection "Timed out in chat script"
From: David W. Hodgins
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp, comp.os.linux.misc
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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2024 14:11 UTC
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Subject: Re: UUCP connection "Timed out in chat script"
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2024 10:11:23 -0400
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On Tue, 13 Aug 2024 09:12:29 -0400, kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:

> I already have an installation on one of my machines in which I can
> connect to multiple other machines (both Debian) via tcp and Taylor UUCP.
>
> Now I want to make a connection between my notebook and my server, and for
> some reason the connection eludes me so far. It clearly connects (via ssh
> pipe), but then times out in chat script according to the log. This
> happens from both sides, and I cannot see any issue with the configuration
> on either side.
>
> Is there a way to get more information as to why it times out? Or what
> exactly it is doing when it tries to connect? So far I have not found any
> logs that get into it deeper than the normal uucp Log file in /var/log/
> uucp.

Check the firewall settings first.

If the notebook is using a wireless connection and the server is using a wired
connection to your router, the router may have a security option enable to
prevent wireless connections from seeing other connections, including the
wired connection. That security option must be disabled in the router. The
terminology may refer to connection sharing or similar. It's been a long time
since I had to deal with it.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

Subject: Re: UUCP connection "Timed out in chat script"
From: kyonshi
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp, comp.os.linux.misc
Organization: Erebor InterNetNews
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From: gmkeros@gmail.com (kyonshi)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: UUCP connection "Timed out in chat script"
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2024 18:01:40 +0200
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On Tue, 13 Aug 2024 10:11:23 -0400, David W. Hodgins wrote:

> On Tue, 13 Aug 2024 09:12:29 -0400, kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I already have an installation on one of my machines in which I can
>> connect to multiple other machines (both Debian) via tcp and Taylor
>> UUCP.
>>
>> Now I want to make a connection between my notebook and my server, and
>> for some reason the connection eludes me so far. It clearly connects
>> (via ssh pipe), but then times out in chat script according to the log.
>> This happens from both sides, and I cannot see any issue with the
>> configuration on either side.
>>
>> Is there a way to get more information as to why it times out? Or what
>> exactly it is doing when it tries to connect? So far I have not found
>> any logs that get into it deeper than the normal uucp Log file in
>> /var/log/ uucp.
>
> Check the firewall settings first.
>
> If the notebook is using a wireless connection and the server is using a
> wired connection to your router, the router may have a security option
> enable to prevent wireless connections from seeing other connections,
> including the wired connection. That security option must be disabled in
> the router. The terminology may refer to connection sharing or similar.
> It's been a long time since I had to deal with it.
>
> Regards, Dave Hodgins

Thanks for your answer.

Both are right now connected by cable, but I have checked the firewall
settings. I also am running the connection through ssh via a pipe
configured in the port-file.
I can access the notebook from the server via ssh, and I can access the
server via notebook. The issue seems to come up specifically after I
already connect via the ssh pipe.

Subject: Re: UUCP connection "Timed out in chat script"
From: Ed Ravin
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp, comp.os.linux.misc
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Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2024 19:05 UTC
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Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: UUCP connection "Timed out in chat script"
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2024 19:05:08 -0000 (UTC)
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From somewhere in cyberspace, kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> said:
>I already have an installation on one of my machines in which I can
>connect to multiple other machines (both Debian) via tcp and Taylor UUCP.
>
>Now I want to make a connection between my notebook and my server, and for
>some reason the connection eludes me so far. It clearly connects (via ssh
>pipe), but then times out in chat script according to the log. This
>happens from both sides, and I cannot see any issue with the configuration
>on either side.

I assume you've already tested ssh from the notebook to the server on the
command line to make sure you have connectivity?

>Is there a way to get more information as to why it times out? Or what
>exactly it is doing when it tries to connect?

Yes and yes. Read up on the --debug option in
https://www.oreilly.com/openbook/linag2/book/ch16.html#AUTOID-13819
I'm guessing you want "--debug chat".
--
Ed Ravin | Warning - this email may contain rhetorical
| devices, metaphors, analogies, typographical
eravin@ | errors, or just plain snarkiness. A sense of
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Subject: Re: UUCP connection "Timed out in chat script"
From: David W. Hodgins
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp, comp.os.linux.misc
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Subject: Re: UUCP connection "Timed out in chat script"
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On Tue, 13 Aug 2024 12:01:40 -0400, kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
<snip>
> Both are right now connected by cable, but I have checked the firewall
> settings. I also am running the connection through ssh via a pipe
> configured in the port-file.
> I can access the notebook from the server via ssh, and I can access the
> server via notebook. The issue seems to come up specifically after I
> already connect via the ssh pipe.

Use wireshark to monitor the connection attempt to see if there is any response.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

Subject: Re: UUCP connection "Timed out in chat script"
From: kyonshi
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp, comp.os.linux.misc
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From: smaug@ereborbbs.duckdns.org (kyonshi)
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Subject: Re: UUCP connection "Timed out in chat script"
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On Tue, 13 Aug 2024 19:05:08 -0000 (UTC), Ed Ravin wrote:

> From somewhere in cyberspace, kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> said:
>>I already have an installation on one of my machines in which I can
>>connect to multiple other machines (both Debian) via tcp and Taylor
>>UUCP.
>>
>>Now I want to make a connection between my notebook and my server, and
>>for some reason the connection eludes me so far. It clearly connects
>>(via ssh pipe), but then times out in chat script according to the log.
>>This happens from both sides, and I cannot see any issue with the
>>configuration on either side.
>
> I assume you've already tested ssh from the notebook to the server on
> the command line to make sure you have connectivity?
>
>>Is there a way to get more information as to why it times out? Or what
>>exactly it is doing when it tries to connect?
>
> Yes and yes. Read up on the --debug option in
> https://www.oreilly.com/openbook/linag2/book/ch16.html#AUTOID-13819 I'm
> guessing you want "--debug chat".

Ah, your prompting to the debug feature helped, and I really should have
found that myself...

In the end it was a combination of two issues with both the ssh connection
(I forgot to address the changed ssh port on the target machine) and the
chat script. Luckily with the Debug log activated I was able to figure it
out.

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