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* 2024 echoes '1984'John Smyth
+* Re: 2024 echoes '1984'Gus James
|`* Re: 2024 echoes '1984'Chips Loral
| `* Re: 2024 echoes '1984'Chips Loral
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|`* Re: 2024 echoes '1984'Grimble Crumble
| `* Re: 2024 echoes '1984'Chris Ahlstrom
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| +* Re: 2024 echoes '1984'Chips Loral
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| `* Re: 2024 echoes '1984'Governor Swill
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Subject: 2024 echoes '1984'
From: John Smyth
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From: smythlejon2@hotmail.com (John Smyth)
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Subject: 2024 echoes '1984'
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George Orwell was only off by 40 years.

'2024 echoes ‘1984’'

'2024 looks a lot like "1984," but you get to help write the ending.
Choose wisely.'

<https://amgreatness.com/2024/08/08/2024-echoes-1984/>

'The book “1984” is supposed to be a warning. Today’s leftists are using
it as an instruction manual.

George Orwell’s classic novel is set in a dystopian world where Big
Brother controls the population through information control and
surveillance. See if any of this sounds familiar.

“Doublethink means the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in
one’s mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them.”

During her career, especially when running for president in 2020, Kamala
Harris took a number of radical positions. She praised efforts to defund
the police. She once insinuated that Immigration and Customs Enforcement
was comparable to the KKK and suggested the agency should be rebuilt
“from scratch.” She wanted to decriminalize border crossings. She
co-sponsored the Green New Deal. She supported a mandatory gun buyback
program, eliminating private insurance and reparations. She was in favor
of banning fracking and plastic straws.

Those policies play great in San Francisco, but not in battleground
states. Not to worry. She’s flip-flopped on at least five major policy
positions since becoming the presumptive nominee.

Instead of exposing this duplicity, the national mainstream media is
participating in it.

“Harris is calibrating her policy pitch for going to battle with Trump,”
the Associated Press wrote about her reversals.

“If the Party could thrust its hand into the past and say of this or
that event, it never happened — that, surely, was more terrifying than
mere torture and death.”

The attempted assassination of Donald Trump happened just over three
weeks ago. The iconic photo of a bloodied Trump defiantly standing and
pumping his fist went viral. Outside of conservative sites and social
media accounts, it’s barely been seen since. The national media has
largely moved on, eager to fluff up Harris.

Less than two weeks ago, pro-Hamas rioters stormed Washington, D.C., to
protest Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu speaking to Congress.
They tore down U.S. flags outside of Union Station and raised
Palestinian flags. They burned an American flag, vandalized monuments
and assaulted park police. Charges against some of the few people
arrested have already been dropped.

An easy prediction: You’ll hear less about these two stories than
Trump’s out-of-context “bloodbath” remark and Jan. 6. It’s like events
that would make Trump look heroic and hurt the left never happened.

“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten …”

You can see this happening in real time. Last week, I googled “Trump
rally.” The top result was “Kamala Harris rally in Atlanta.” The same
thing happened to Elon Musk and many others.

Recently, Meta AI refused to acknowledge that Trump was almost
assassinated. Meta is the parent company of Facebook. It inaccurately
labeled a fist-pumping photo of a bloodied Trump as “altered.” When
people used Google to search for information on Trump’s attempted
assassination, its auto-fill wouldn’t even suggest his name.

Both companies claim they weren’t trying to rig search results. Those
excuses would be more believable if almost all mistakes like these
didn’t go in the same direction.

“Don’t you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of
thought? In the end, we shall make thoughtcrime literally impossible,
because there will be no words in which to express it.”

Illegal aliens are merely undocumented migrants. Men who claim to be
women are women. People voting for Donald Trump are a threat to
democracy. Ramming scissors into the skull of an 8-month-old preborn
baby and sucking her brains out is health care. Israel is the oppressor
for defending itself against genocidal terrorists. Diversity requires
ideological conformity.

2024 looks a lot like “1984,” but you get to help write the ending.
Choose wisely.'

Subject: Re: 2024 echoes '1984'
From: Gus James
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Why did the dems rip biden out of the job in a coup when they know nobody
will vote for a woman or a negro? The polls are lying.
Some say they're going to seize power on Jan 6 2025, only Trump can stop
them. It's not about the Senate or Congress. Nobody cares who runs them.
Putting Trump back into the white house with his 3rd election victory and
presidency in a row is all that matters now.

Subject: Re: 2024 echoes '1984'
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Subject: Re: 2024 echoes '1984'
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Chips Loral wrote:
> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> Trump loves the military AND thinks
>> the troops are "suckers and losers"
>
> Never happened, you lying cornholer!

i saw him say it

Subject: Re: 2024 echoes '1984'
From: Chips Loral
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Gus James wrote:
> Why did the dems rip biden out of the job in a coup when they know nobody
> will vote for a woman or a negro? The polls are lying.
> Some say they're going to seize power on Jan 6 2025, only Trump can stop
> them. It's not about the Senate or Congress. Nobody cares who runs them.
> Putting Trump back into the white house with his 3rd election victory and
> presidency in a row is all that matters now.
>

👍🏻 👍🏻

Subject: Re: 2024 echoes '1984'
From: Chips Loral
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From: loralandclinton@invalid.co (Chips Loral)
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% wrote:
> Chips Loral wrote:
>> Gus James wrote:
>>> Why did the dems rip biden out of the job in a coup when they know
>>> nobody
>>> will vote for a woman or a negro?   The polls are lying.
>>> Some say they're going to seize power on Jan 6 2025, only Trump can stop
>>> them.   It's not about the Senate or Congress.  Nobody cares who runs
>>> them.
>>> Putting Trump back into the white house with his 3rd election victory
>>> and
>>> presidency in a row is all that matters now.
>>>
>>
>> 👍🏻 👍🏻
>
> 😀

"Tim Walz’s Church Doesn’t Like To Call God ‘Him,’ Supports Reparations
And Pride Parades

Walz’s church has also promoted dozens of pieces of leftist literature
to help its parishioners become “antiracist.” The 1619 Project, which
teaches that America is fundamentally racist, was among the titles
highlighted.

Walz signed a bill in April 2023 that empowered the state of Minnesota
to revoke custody from parents who deny their children sex changes,
hormone replacement or cosmetic surgeries, among other interventions."

ᶠᶸᶜᵏᵧₒᵤ! ⁶𖤐⁶ ᶠᶸᶜᵏᵧₒᵤ!

Subject: Re: 2024 echoes '1984'
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Chips Loral wrote:
> % wrote:
>> Chips Loral wrote:
>>> Gus James wrote:
>>>> Why did the dems rip biden out of the job in a coup when they know
>>>> nobody
>>>> will vote for a woman or a negro?   The polls are lying.
>>>> Some say they're going to seize power on Jan 6 2025, only Trump can
>>>> stop
>>>> them.   It's not about the Senate or Congress.  Nobody cares who
>>>> runs them.
>>>> Putting Trump back into the white house with his 3rd election
>>>> victory and
>>>> presidency in a row is all that matters now.
>>>>
>>>
>>> 👍🏻 👍🏻
>>
>> 😀
>
>
> "Tim Walz’s Church Doesn’t Like To Call God ‘Him,’ Supports Reparations
> And Pride Parades
>
> Walz’s church has also promoted dozens of pieces of leftist literature
> to help its parishioners become “antiracist.” The 1619 Project, which
> teaches that America is fundamentally racist, was among the titles
> highlighted.
>
> Walz signed a bill in April 2023 that empowered the state of Minnesota
> to revoke custody from parents who deny their children sex changes,
> hormone replacement or cosmetic surgeries, among other interventions."
>
> ᶠᶸᶜᵏᵧₒᵤ!       ⁶𖤐⁶           ᶠᶸᶜᵏᵧₒᵤ!





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Subject: Re: 2024 echoes '1984'
From: super70s
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In article <325cbj5p9ens153nqg4lcp1sk60q7re21q@4ax.com>,
John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote:

> George Orwell was only off by 40 years.
>
> '2024 echoes '1984'
>
> '2024 looks a lot like '1984,' but you get to help write the ending.
> Choose wisely.'
>
> <https://amgreatness.com/2024/08/08/2024-echoes-1984/>
>
> The book "1984" is supposed to be a warning. Today's leftists are using
> it as an instruction manual.

Bizarre interpretation of a book about the consequences of
totalitarianism, if "Nineteen Eighty-Four" was a warning about any
politician on the current scene it would be Donald Trump.

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On 2024-08-09, super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
> In article <325cbj5p9ens153nqg4lcp1sk60q7re21q@4ax.com>,
> John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> George Orwell was only off by 40 years.
>>
>> '2024 echoes '1984'
>>
>> '2024 looks a lot like '1984,' but you get to help write the ending.
>> Choose wisely.'
>>
>> <https://amgreatness.com/2024/08/08/2024-echoes-1984/>
>>
>> The book "1984" is supposed to be a warning. Today's leftists are using
>> it as an instruction manual.
>
> Bizarre interpretation of a book about the consequences of
> totalitarianism, if "Nineteen Eighty-Four" was a warning about any
> politician on the current scene it would be Donald Trump.

Look up Ministry of truth and Newspeak and please explain how Trump can be associated with either
one.

--
Charlie Glock
"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms"
- Thomas Jefferson 1776

Subject: Re: 2024 echoes '1984'
From: Governor Swill
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On Fri, 09 Aug 2024 09:06:31 -0400, John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote:

>'The book “1984” is supposed to be a warning. Today’s leftists are using
>it as an instruction manual.

<laughs and points>

I'm guessing you haven't read Project 2025 yet, have you?

<chuckle>

#nevertrump

Subject: Re: 2024 echoes '1984'
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On Fri, 09 Aug 2024 18:11:44 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote:

>John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote in
>news:325cbj5p9ens153nqg4lcp1sk60q7re21q@4ax.com:
>
>> George Orwell was only off by 40 years.
>>
>> '2024 echoes ‘1984’'
>>
>> '2024 looks a lot like "1984," but you get to help write the ending.
>> Choose wisely.'
>>
>> <https://amgreatness.com/2024/08/08/2024-echoes-1984/>
>>
>> 'The book “1984” is supposed to be a warning. Today’s leftists are
>using
>> it as an instruction manual.
>>
>> George Orwell’s classic novel is set in a dystopian world where Big
>> Brother controls the population through information control and
>> surveillance. See if any of this sounds familiar.
>>
>> “Doublethink means the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in
>> one’s mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them.”
>>
>
>
> Clinton adultery was public disgrace,
>Trump adultery is a private matter.
>
> Trump supports American workers and
>his exporting US jobs just proves he is a
>savvy businessman.
>
> Trump is "drill baby drill" but also
>banning offshore drilling.
>
> Trump loves the military AND thinks
>the troops are "suckers and losers"
>
> Trump tries to ban Tiktok and mow
>supports Tiktok.
>
> Trump opposes EVs but now supports
>EVs.
>
> Trump supports democracy in Asia
>AND is "in love" the N Korean dictator.
>
> Trump is an honest businessman
>AND cheats his suppliers, his investors,
>his "students" and even his own lawyers.
>
> Voting by mail is fraud except
>when Trump himself does it.

The trouble with hypocrisy is that hypocrites don't see it that way.

#nevertrump

Subject: Re: 2024 echoes '1984'
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On Fri, 09 Aug 2024 18:41:08 -0500, super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:

>In article <325cbj5p9ens153nqg4lcp1sk60q7re21q@4ax.com>,
> John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> George Orwell was only off by 40 years.
>>
>> '2024 echoes '1984'
>>
>> '2024 looks a lot like '1984,' but you get to help write the ending.
>> Choose wisely.'
>>
>> <https://amgreatness.com/2024/08/08/2024-echoes-1984/>
>>
>> The book "1984" is supposed to be a warning. Today's leftists are using
>> it as an instruction manual.
>
>Bizarre interpretation of a book about the consequences of
>totalitarianism, if "Nineteen Eighty-Four" was a warning about any
>politician on the current scene it would be Donald Trump.

*applause*

#nevertrump
NP: Paul Simon - Kodachrome

Subject: Re: 2024 echoes '1984'
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On 10 Aug 2024 01:31:57 GMT, Charlie Glock <"Charlie Glock"@localhost.com> wrote:

>On 2024-08-09, super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
>> In article <325cbj5p9ens153nqg4lcp1sk60q7re21q@4ax.com>,
>> John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> George Orwell was only off by 40 years.
>>>
>>> '2024 echoes '1984'
>>>
>>> '2024 looks a lot like '1984,' but you get to help write the ending.
>>> Choose wisely.'
>>>
>>> <https://amgreatness.com/2024/08/08/2024-echoes-1984/>
>>>
>>> The book "1984" is supposed to be a warning. Today's leftists are using
>>> it as an instruction manual.
>>
>> Bizarre interpretation of a book about the consequences of
>> totalitarianism, if "Nineteen Eighty-Four" was a warning about any
>> politician on the current scene it would be Donald Trump.
>
>Look up Ministry of truth and Newspeak and please explain how Trump can be associated with either
>one.

You miss the point of the book.

#nevertrump
NP: Paul Simon - Mother And Child Reunion

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Governor Swill wrote:
> The trouble with hypocrisy is that hypocrites don't see it that way.

YOUR DEATH THREATS AGAINST TRUMP ARE DOCUMENTED:

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A Terrell/Al
Feldhauser/Malte Runz and a dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Oh poor me I got shot at ...

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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

Swill

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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.


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Governor Swill wrote:
> I'm guessing

YOUR DEATH THREATS AGAINST TRUMP ARE DOCUMENTED:

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A Terrell/Al
Feldhauser/Malte Runz and a dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Oh poor me I got shot at ...

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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.


Click here to read the complete article
Subject: Re: 2024 echoes '1984'
From: Anonymous
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Governor Swill wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Aug 2024 09:06:31 -0400, John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> 'The book “1984” is supposed to be a warning. Today’s leftists are using
>> it as an instruction manual.
>
> <laughs and points>
>
> I'm guessing you haven't read Project 2025 yet, have you?
>
> <chuckle>

You evidently haven't. 'Project 2025' is NOT totalitarian Leftism, Governor
Shill. The President can hire and fire whom he chooses.

Subject: Re: 2024 echoes '1984'
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super70s wrote:
> In article <325cbj5p9ens153nqg4lcp1sk60q7re21q@4ax.com>,
> John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> George Orwell was only off by 40 years.
>>
>> '2024 echoes '1984'
>>
>> '2024 looks a lot like '1984,' but you get to help write the ending.
>> Choose wisely.'
>>
>> <https://amgreatness.com/2024/08/08/2024-echoes-1984/>
>>
>> The book "1984" is supposed to be a warning. Today's leftists are using
>> it as an instruction manual.
>
> Bizarre interpretation of a book about the consequences of
> totalitarianism, if "Nineteen Eighty-Four" was a warning about any
> politician on the current scene it would be Donald Trump.

'1984' was a book about LEFTISM, which is totalitarian. It manifestly
FAILS to describe Trump or his movement.

Subject: Re: 2024 echoes '1984'
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Anonymous wrote:
> The President can hire and fire whom he chooses.

Alas, no, he cannot, due to the deep state that Carter put upon us:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senior_Executive_Service_(United_States)

The Senior Executive Service (SES)[1] is a position classification in
the United States federal civil service equivalent to general officer or
flag officer rank in the U.S. Armed Forces. It was created in 1979 when
the Civil Service Reform Act of 1978 went into effect under President
Jimmy Carter.[2]

Characteristics
According to the Office of Personnel Management, the SES was designed to
be a corps of executives selected for their leadership qualifications,
serving in key positions just below the top presidential appointees as a
link between them and the rest of the federal (civil service) workforce.
SES positions are considered to be above the GS-15 level of the General
Schedule, and below Level III of the Executive Schedule. Career members
of the SES ranks are eligible for the Presidential Rank Awards
program.[citation needed]

Up to 10% of SES positions can be filled as political appointments
rather than by career employees.[3] About half of the SES is designated
"Career Reserved", which can only be filled by career employees. The
other half is designated "General", which can be filled by either career
employees or political appointments as desired by the administration.
Due to the 10% limitation, most General positions are still filled by
career appointees.[4]

Senior level employees of several agencies are exempt from the SES but
have their own senior executive positions; these include the Federal
Bureau of Investigation, Central Intelligence Agency, Defense
Intelligence Agency, National Security Agency, Transportation Security
Administration, Federal Aviation Administration, Government
Accountability Office, Members of the Foreign Service, and government
corporations.

Adverse actions
SES career appointees have civil service protections; they may only be
fired or suspended for more than 14 days for misconduct, neglect of
duty, malfeasance, or failure to accept a directed reassignment or to
accompany a position in a transfer of function. These adverse actions
may be appealed to the Merit Systems Protection Board.[5]

An SES career appointee can also be reassigned within the SES, or from
the SES into a competitive service position, based on performance
ratings. A single unsatisfactory performance rating makes them eligible
for reassignment, though it is not mandatory. However, they must be
removed from the SES if they receive two unsatisfactory ratings in a
period of five consecutive years, or two less than fully successful
ratings within three consecutive years. Reassignments may not be
appealed to the Merit Systems Protection Board.[5]

SES career appointees in the United States Department of Veterans
Affairs have different procedures as a result of the Department of
Veterans Affairs Accountability and Whistleblower Protection Act of
2017. The Secretary of Veterans Affairs has discretion to suspend,
demote, remove, or take other actions against SES career appointees or
other high-level executives if the Secretary determines that the
individual’s misconduct or performance warrants such action, with
abbreviated notice and appeals rights.[5]

By contrast, noncareer and limited-term SES appointees are generally not
subject to removal protections and may be removed from the SES at any
time.[5]

Pay rates
(Effective on the first day of the first applicable pay period beginning
on or after January 1, 2023)[6]
Minimum Maximum
Agencies with a Certified SES Performance Appraisal System $141,022 $212,100
Agencies without a Certified SES Performance Appraisal System $141,022
$195,000
Unlike the General Schedule (GS) grades, SES pay is determined at agency
discretion within certain parameters, and there is no locality pay
adjustment.

The minimum pay level for the SES is set at 120 percent of the basic pay
for GS-15 Step 1 employees ($126,148 for 2018).[7] The maximum pay level
depends on whether or not the employing agency has a "certified" SES
performance appraisal system:[8]

If the agency has a certified system, the maximum pay is set at Level II
of the Executive Schedule ($203,700 for 2022).[9]
If the agency does not have a certified system, the maximum pay is set
at Level III of the Executive Schedule ($187,300 for 2022).[9]
Total aggregate pay is limited to the salary of the Vice President of
the United States ($261,400 for 2022).

Prior to 2004, the SES used a six-level system. It was replaced with the
current open band system on January 1, 2014

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Chips Loral wrote:
> The Senior Executive Service

Forty years ago, Congress set out to fix the government’s broken
bureaucracy. It worried that the political appointees who head federal
agencies didn’t have solid relationships with the civil servants below
them. So it established a new corps of government workers, called the
Senior Executive Service, to be the executive branch’s expert managers,
linking appointees to the rank-and-file. But today, a new report finds,
the corps isn’t operating the way it’s supposed to be. And
officials—from the Obama administration, to members of Congress, to the
managers themselves—agree that they still haven’t perfected the art of
running the federal government.

Subject: Re: 2024 echoes '1984'
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On Sat, 10 Aug 2024 17:03:38 -0400, Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:

>super70s wrote:
>> In article <325cbj5p9ens153nqg4lcp1sk60q7re21q@4ax.com>,
>> John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> George Orwell was only off by 40 years.
>>>
>>> '2024 echoes '1984'
>>>
>>> '2024 looks a lot like '1984,' but you get to help write the ending.
>>> Choose wisely.'
>>>
>>> <https://amgreatness.com/2024/08/08/2024-echoes-1984/>
>>>
>>> The book "1984" is supposed to be a warning. Today's leftists are using
>>> it as an instruction manual.
>>
>> Bizarre interpretation of a book about the consequences of
>> totalitarianism, if "Nineteen Eighty-Four" was a warning about any
>> politician on the current scene it would be Donald Trump.
>
>'1984' was a book about LEFTISM, which is totalitarian. It manifestly
>FAILS to describe Trump or his movement.

No, it was not. It was a book about authoritarianism which is a political system.
Authoritarianism can function given any type of economic system from communism to
capitalism.

The book carefully avoided issues of right/left, capitalism/communism. It was focused on
the ability to bypass democratic forms by manipulating the public through the media.

#nevertrump

Subject: Re: 2024 echoes '1984'
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On Sat, 10 Aug 2024 17:03:25 -0400, Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:

>Governor Swill wrote:
>> On Fri, 09 Aug 2024 09:06:31 -0400, John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> 'The book “1984” is supposed to be a warning. Today’s leftists are using
>>> it as an instruction manual.
>>
>> <laughs and points>
>>
>> I'm guessing you haven't read Project 2025 yet, have you?
>>
>> <chuckle>
>
>You evidently haven't. 'Project 2025' is NOT totalitarian Leftism, Governor
>Shill. The President can hire and fire whom he chooses.

No he can't, idiot.

That used to be the case. Your job as a civil servant was determined by your loyalties
from the beginning of the Republic through most of the 19th century BUT ...

"The Pendleton Act of 1883 ended this patronage system for covered positions and created
the competitive civil service. Coverage has grown as a proportion of the Federal workforce
over time to cover nearly all career positions.

"The Pendleton Act required agencies to appoint Federal employees covered by the Act based
on competency and merit.

"It also established the Civil Service Commission (CSC) to help implement and enforce the
government's adherence to merit-based principles."
<https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2024/04/09/2024-06815/upholding-civil-service-protections-and-merit-system-principles#:~:text=To%20protect%20career%20Federal%20employees,merit%20rather%20than%20political%20affiliation.>

"In the Civil Service Reform Act of 1978 (CSRA), Congress sought to ensure that agencies
could remove poor performers and employees who engage in misconduct, while protecting the
civil service from the harmful effects of management acting for improper reasons such as
discrimination or retaliation for whistleblowing."
<https://www.mspb.gov/studies/studies/What_is_Due_Process_in_Federal_Civil_Service_Employment_1166935.pdf>

"To protect career Federal employees from undue partisan influence, civil service
advocates and then Congress sought to establish a Federal nonpartisan career civil service
that would be selected based on merit rather than political affiliation."
<https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2024/04/09/2024-06815/upholding-civil-service-protections-and-merit-system-principles#:~:text=To%20protect%20career%20Federal%20employees,merit%20rather%20than%20political%20affiliation.>

The Pendleton Act is yet one more longstanding US law that Project 2025 and Trump both
seek to overturn.

#nevertrump

Subject: Re: 2024 echoes '1984'
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From: anon@anon.net (Anonymous)
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Subject: Re: 2024 echoes '1984'
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Governor Swill wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Aug 2024 17:03:25 -0400, Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>
>> Governor Swill wrote:
>>> On Fri, 09 Aug 2024 09:06:31 -0400, John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 'The book “1984” is supposed to be a warning. Today’s leftists are using
>>>> it as an instruction manual.
>>>
>>> <laughs and points>
>>>
>>> I'm guessing you haven't read Project 2025 yet, have you?
>>>
>>> <chuckle>
>>
>> You evidently haven't. 'Project 2025' is NOT totalitarian Leftism, Governor
>> Shill. The President can hire and fire whom he chooses.
>
> No he can't, idiot.

Under the Constitution, he can.

> That used to be the case. Your job as a civil servant was determined by your loyalties
> from the beginning of the Republic through most of the 19th century BUT ...
>
> "The Pendleton Act of 1883 ended this patronage system for covered positions and created
> the competitive civil service. Coverage has grown as a proportion of the Federal workforce
> over time to cover nearly all career positions.
>
> "The Pendleton Act required agencies to appoint Federal employees covered by the Act based
> on competency and merit.
>
> "It also established the Civil Service Commission (CSC) to help implement and enforce the
> government's adherence to merit-based principles."
> <https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2024/04/09/2024-06815/upholding-civil-service-protections-and-merit-system-principles#:~:text=To%20protect%20career%20Federal%20employees,merit%20rather%20than%20political%20affiliation.>
>
> "In the Civil Service Reform Act of 1978 (CSRA), Congress sought to ensure that agencies
> could remove poor performers and employees who engage in misconduct, while protecting the
> civil service from the harmful effects of management acting for improper reasons such as
> discrimination or retaliation for whistleblowing."
> <https://www.mspb.gov/studies/studies/What_is_Due_Process_in_Federal_Civil_Service_Employment_1166935.pdf>
>
> "To protect career Federal employees from undue partisan influence, civil service
> advocates and then Congress sought to establish a Federal nonpartisan career civil service
> that would be selected based on merit rather than political affiliation."
> <https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2024/04/09/2024-06815/upholding-civil-service-protections-and-merit-system-principles#:~:text=To%20protect%20career%20Federal%20employees,merit%20rather%20than%20political%20affiliation.>
>
> The Pendleton Act is yet one more longstanding US law that Project 2025 and Trump both
> seek to overturn.

The "civil service" is full of niggers, Jews, faggots, and is corrupt to the
core. Kill it dead.

Subject: Re: 2024 echoes '1984'
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Governor Swill wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Aug 2024 17:03:38 -0400, Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>
>> super70s wrote:
>>> In article <325cbj5p9ens153nqg4lcp1sk60q7re21q@4ax.com>,
>>> John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> George Orwell was only off by 40 years.
>>>>
>>>> '2024 echoes '1984'
>>>>
>>>> '2024 looks a lot like '1984,' but you get to help write the ending.
>>>> Choose wisely.'
>>>>
>>>> <https://amgreatness.com/2024/08/08/2024-echoes-1984/>
>>>>
>>>> The book "1984" is supposed to be a warning. Today's leftists are using
>>>> it as an instruction manual.
>>>
>>> Bizarre interpretation of a book about the consequences of
>>> totalitarianism, if "Nineteen Eighty-Four" was a warning about any
>>> politician on the current scene it would be Donald Trump.
>>
>> '1984' was a book about LEFTISM, which is totalitarian. It manifestly
>> FAILS to describe Trump or his movement.
>
> No, it was not. It was a book about authoritarianism which is a political system.
Yes it was. Authoritarianism is NOT totalitarianism. '1984' describes
totalitarianism.

Authoritarianism wants to force people like you to shut the fuck up
about politics. Totalitarianism seeks to control the very THOUGHTS
of EVERYONE.

As a result, authoritarians only murder between 1/100th and 1/1000th
the number of people totalitarians do.

Subject: Re: 2024 echoes '1984'
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On Tue, 13 Aug 2024 00:51:12 -0400, Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:

>Governor Swill wrote:
>> On Sat, 10 Aug 2024 17:03:38 -0400, Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>>
>>> super70s wrote:
>>>> In article <325cbj5p9ens153nqg4lcp1sk60q7re21q@4ax.com>,
>>>> John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> George Orwell was only off by 40 years.
>>>>>
>>>>> '2024 echoes '1984'
>>>>>
>>>>> '2024 looks a lot like '1984,' but you get to help write the ending.
>>>>> Choose wisely.'
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://amgreatness.com/2024/08/08/2024-echoes-1984/>
>>>>>
>>>>> The book "1984" is supposed to be a warning. Today's leftists are using
>>>>> it as an instruction manual.
>>>>
>>>> Bizarre interpretation of a book about the consequences of
>>>> totalitarianism, if "Nineteen Eighty-Four" was a warning about any
>>>> politician on the current scene it would be Donald Trump.
>>>
>>> '1984' was a book about LEFTISM, which is totalitarian. It manifestly
>>> FAILS to describe Trump or his movement.
>>
>> No, it was not. It was a book about authoritarianism which is a political system.
>Yes it was. Authoritarianism is NOT totalitarianism. '1984' describes
>totalitarianism.

Why are you discussing politics when you're so ignorant of political language?

>Authoritarianism wants to force people like you to shut the fuck up
>about politics. Totalitarianism seeks to control the very THOUGHTS
>of EVERYONE.
>
>As a result, authoritarians only murder between 1/100th and 1/1000th
>the number of people totalitarians do.

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!

<laughs and points at the fool>

#nevertrump
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Subject: Re: 2024 echoes '1984'
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On Tue, 13 Aug 2024 00:43:49 -0400, Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:

>Governor Swill wrote:
>> On Sat, 10 Aug 2024 17:03:25 -0400, Anonymous <anon@anon.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Governor Swill wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 09 Aug 2024 09:06:31 -0400, John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 'The book “1984” is supposed to be a warning. Today’s leftists are using
>>>>> it as an instruction manual.
>>>>
>>>> <laughs and points>
>>>>
>>>> I'm guessing you haven't read Project 2025 yet, have you?
>>>>
>>>> <chuckle>
>>>
>>> You evidently haven't. 'Project 2025' is NOT totalitarian Leftism, Governor
>>> Shill. The President can hire and fire whom he chooses.
>>
>> No he can't, idiot.
>
>Under the Constitution, he can.

The Constitution is not the ONLY law of the land. All laws must comply with its
provisions.

>
>The "civil service" is full of niggers, Jews, faggots, and is corrupt to the
>core. Kill it dead.

Oh, shit. I'm sorry. I forgot you are just a troll.

#nevertrump

Subject: Re: 2024 echoes '1984'
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Jonathan David Ball wrote:
> On 8/10/2024 2:03 PM, Anonymous wrote:
>> super70s wrote:
>>> In article <325cbj5p9ens153nqg4lcp1sk60q7re21q@4ax.com>,
>>>   John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> George Orwell was only off by 40 years.
>>>>
>>>> '2024 echoes '1984'
>>>>
>>>> '2024 looks a lot like '1984,' but you get to help write the ending.
>>>> Choose wisely.'
>>>>
>>>> <https://amgreatness.com/2024/08/08/2024-echoes-1984/>
>>>>
>>>> The book "1984" is supposed to be a warning. Today's leftists are using
>>>> it as an instruction manual.
>>>
>>> Bizarre interpretation of a book about the consequences of
>>> totalitarianism, if "Nineteen Eighty-Four" was a warning about any
>>> politician on the current scene it would be Donald Trump.
>>
>> '1984' was a book about LEFTISM, which is totalitarian.
>
> Fuck off, you flatulent cunt. It was a book about totalitarianism, from *any*
> side, and the worst totalitarianism is always from the right.
>
> You filthy subhuman Nazi fuckscum
>

There is no such thing as "right wing totalitarianism", Jonathan David Ball.

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