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* Re: OT: Why the fuck does Apple...Lawrence D'Oliveiro
`* Re: OT: Why the fuck does Apple...Joel
 `* Re: OT: Why the fuck does Apple...DFS
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Subject: Re: OT: Why the fuck does Apple...
From: Lawrence D'Oliv
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On Thu, 8 Aug 2024 15:45:28 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

> ... prevent third-party software from synchronizing music to the iPhone
> 13, and why the fuck does it not support FLAC? Hell, iTunes doesn't even
> allow you to rip CDs anymore and neither does the Apple Music software
> that replaced it. I can understand that they want to sell their service
> but this seems more than a little oppressive.

You have the freedom to not use their products.

Companies that treat their customers like dirt do seem to attract a
following, don’t they: it’s like some people want to be dominated by
dictatorial political leaders, and dictatorial corporations.

Subject: Re: OT: Why the fuck does Apple...
From: Joel
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
>On Thu, 8 Aug 2024 15:45:28 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
>
>> ... prevent third-party software from synchronizing music to the iPhone
>> 13, and why the fuck does it not support FLAC? Hell, iTunes doesn't even
>> allow you to rip CDs anymore and neither does the Apple Music software
>> that replaced it. I can understand that they want to sell their service
>> but this seems more than a little oppressive.
>
>You have the freedom to not use their products.
>
>Companies that treat their customers like dirt do seem to attract a
>following, don’t they: it’s like some people want to be dominated by
>dictatorial political leaders, and dictatorial corporations.

It's called "boojy" (bourgeois). Apple cult followers are happy to
pay exorbitant amounts, to get something their dumb brains can figure
out. Other people have far better computers for far less money, like
me, even including the $200 I paid for my Winblows license, I made out
like a bandit building my own, compared to Apple's bullshit. I might
have the luxury of having time to assemble the computer, and such,
maybe that's part of their rationale, but JFC they pay through the
nose to those people, and for what? Nice hardware but total crap
software. You can get a PC laptop now with ARM, and soon other
devices will come along with it.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Subject: Re: OT: Why the fuck does Apple...
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On 8/8/2024 8:29 PM, Joel wrote:

> Apple cult followers are happy to pay exorbitant amounts, to get something their dumb brains can figure out.

Intelligence scale
------------------------------
Apple users on top
Then Windows users
then aardvarks
then Linux users

Subject: Re: OT: Why the fuck does Apple...
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DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:

>> Apple cult followers are happy to pay exorbitant amounts, to get something their dumb brains can figure out.
>
>Intelligence scale
>------------------------------
>Apple users on top
>Then Windows users
>then aardvarks
>then Linux users

Ultimately it's specific skill with computers that makes Linux nice.
But Windows should be higher than macOS, to me, there's more substance
to it. Using *Darwin*, though, makes up for what Apple's own design
lacks, but Darwin and macOS are not two parts of the same thing,
they're two things running in parallel. macOS in fact makes what I
famously call "Winblows" actually a very advanced operating system if
you look at what it's capable of. Windows blows simply because it's
huge. It spares no expense.

I am impressed by what I have with the footprint of Xfce. It's good
enough for someone who can work around a deficit of GUI smoothness.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Subject: Re: OT: Why the fuck does Apple...
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> some dumb fsck wrote:
>>
>>Intelligence scale
>>------------------------------
>>Apple users on top
>>Then Windows users
>>then aardvarks
>>then Linux users

The above is correct, in DumFSck's up-is-down, lies-are-truth world.

--
"50 C, but in Arch Linux it runs on 65 C" - some dumb fsck,
"supporting" his claim that Linux runs "30% hotter"

Subject: Re: OT: Why the fuck does Apple...
From: Lawrence D'Oliv
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On Sun, 11 Aug 2024 10:12:09 -0400, DFS wrote:

> Intelligence scale ------------------------------ Apple users on top

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZgYlpBWfPc

(You just got Samsunged.)

Subject: Re: OT: Why the fuck does Apple...
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On 8/11/2024 11:55 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Aug 2024 10:12:09 -0400, DFS wrote:
>
>> Intelligence scale ------------------------------ Apple users on top
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZgYlpBWfPc
>
> (You just got Samsunged.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YciM_54HzZk

You just got Appled.

Samsung committed the most blatant, shameless copying I've ever seen,
except for various Linux DEs made to look exactly like Windows or MacOS.

Subject: Re: OT: Why the fuck does Apple...
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On Mon, 12 Aug 2024 12:23:56 -0400, DFS wrote:

> Samsung committed the most blatant, shameless copying I've ever seen ...

Heard of the LG Prada? Looked just like the Iphone ... only it came out a
few months before the Iphone.

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Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Mon, 12 Aug 2024 12:23:56 -0400, DFS wrote:
>
>> Samsung committed the most blatant, shameless copying I've ever seen ...
>
> Heard of the LG Prada? Looked just like the Iphone ... only it came out a
> few months before the Iphone.

Samsung is trying to compete with Apple's featuritis, such as being able to do
messaging and answer calls on the tablet as well as the phone... with
a Samsung account, of course.

The face recognition on the S24 is not as reliable as on the iPhonej; it
memorizes only one (frontal) view.

Samsung is going to drop its messaging app in favor of Googles. Why, because
the latter supports RCS (Google's rich communications service), which is
on par with the iPhone's messaging. However, iPhone will apparently soon
support RCS, in part because of the European lawsuit that also got USB-C to
replace Lightning on the latest iPhone (IIRC).

Our iPad froze up yesterday; the Home button wouldn't work. The fixes shown on
the web did not work. I kept dicking with the thing for awhile, and somehow
got it working again. Or maybe it was just a matter of time.

So far my Galaxy Tab has worked flawlessly. And I'm quite happy with the S24.
One thing that I like about it over the iPhone is that you have to push a
button to show the login screen. One the iPhone, a touch would turn it on, so
that putting it in one's pocket might cause some (annoying) action to occur.

But I babble....

--
Always the dullness of the fool is the whetstone of the wits.
-- William Shakespeare, "As You Like It"

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On 8/11/24 15:00, 🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 Jen 🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈
Dershmender 💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🐶笛🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Aug 2024 14:33:18 -0400, LO AND BEHOLD; Joel
> <joelcrump@gmail.com> determined that the following was of great
> importance to Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> and subsequently decided to
> freely share it with us in
> <kpthbjdhpt805rdcv15ljtlmok8vo7ml8v@4ax.com>:
>
> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= I am impressed by what I have with the footprint of Xfce. It's good
> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= enough for someone who can work around a deficit of GUI smoothness.
>
> Check out FVWM if you want a super-responsive paging desktop GUI.
>
> https://www.fvwm.org
>
> The default config is super lightweight and you can configure everything exactly how you want it.
>
> clicking on the desktop gives you configurable context menus with left, middle (l+r if no middle button), and right mouse button.

I simply don't worry about having convenient features, and embrace the
interface of openSUSE with Xfce, but thanks.

--
Joel W. Crump

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On Thu, 15 Aug 2024 21:24:41 -0400, Joel Crump wrote:

> I simply don't worry about having convenient features, and embrace the
> interface of openSUSE with Xfce, but thanks.

I've got Xfce on the Debian box. I wouldn't say it's my all time favorite
but it works out of the box. Other than hunting down the screen to set the
mouse to left handed the last time I remember doing much configuration was
with IceWM many moons ago. Then the thrill wore off.

Most of the supercalifragilisticexpialidocious features they work so hard
to add to WMs like animated windows that come down with ague when you move
them only annoy me.

Subject: Re: OT: Why the fuck does Apple...
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Le 12-08-2024, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> a écrit :
> On 8/11/2024 11:55 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>> On Sun, 11 Aug 2024 10:12:09 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>
>>> Intelligence scale ------------------------------ Apple users on top
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZgYlpBWfPc
>>
>> (You just got Samsunged.)
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YciM_54HzZk
>
> You just got Appled.
>
> Samsung committed the most blatant, shameless copying I've ever seen,
> except for various Linux DEs made to look exactly like Windows or MacOS.

<https://www.cultofmac.com/188753/the-braun-products-that-inspired-apples-iconic-designs-gallery/>

--
Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
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On 8/16/2024 4:37 PM, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
> Le 12-08-2024, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> a écrit :
>> On 8/11/2024 11:55 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>> On Sun, 11 Aug 2024 10:12:09 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>>
>>>> Intelligence scale ------------------------------ Apple users on top
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZgYlpBWfPc
>>>
>>> (You just got Samsunged.)
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YciM_54HzZk
>>
>> You just got Appled.
>>
>> Samsung committed the most blatant, shameless copying I've ever seen,
>> except for various Linux DEs made to look exactly like Windows or MacOS.
>
> <https://www.cultofmac.com/188753/the-braun-products-that-inspired-apples-iconic-designs-gallery/>

lame.

None of those look like inspiration for Apple.

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