On 2024-08-09, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Aug 2024 16:33:06 -0500, AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>Things Kamala Harris supports:
>>
>>-Abolishing ICE
>>-Decriminalizing illegal crossings
>>-Defunding the police
>>-Mandatory gun buy backs (confiscations)
>>-Nationalizing energy
>>-Banning fracking
>>-Banning off shore drilling
>>-Abolishing the filibuster
>>-Supporting the GND
>>-Ending private health insurance
>>-Free healthcare for all including illegals
>>-Mass amnesty for illegals
>>-Ending the death penalty
>>-Abolishing prisons
>>-Ending cash bail
>>-Ending mandatory minimum sentences
>>-Imposing carbon tax
>>-Child gender reassignment surgery and hormone replacement therapy
>>
>>==============================================================================
>>
>>And YOU want THIS to be President:
>>
>
> The media won't tell you that. People think this election is
> Brewster's Millions.

Indeed.
I was watching a segment on Newsmax or Fox this morning and a reporter was out on the streets of
Allentown PA questioning random people about who they are going to vote for and why.
There were a lot of undecideds but an equal amount of Trump vs Harris voters for the most part.

So one hispanic lady went on and on about how she can't afford to feed her family, they eat
leftovers and cheap food, she turns the lights out, limits the use of heat and A/C and so forth.

So then the reporter asked her who she was going to vote for and she immediately said "Harris". The
reporter was dumbfounded and followed up with the question "so who do you think would be better for
the economy?" and the lady gave it some thought and said "Trump".
The final question was, if the economy and YOUR life is so bad now, why would you vote for Harris?

The answer was "because she represents the average people like me and is more presidential".
And folks, these are the type of idiots who will be voting in November.

--
pothead
Kamala Harris = Four More Years Of Obama.
Send Her To The Curb.
Vote snit "Kook Of the Decade".

The 59 worst things Trump did during his presidency
Moya Lothian McLeanGreg EvansAug 17, 2023
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The 59 worst things Trump did during his presidency

Since Donald Trump begrudgingly left office in January 2021, he's had some
bad moments. He has moaned that the election was stolen from him and said
he should have won and has spread baseless conspiracies while mocking Joe
Biden.

These claims about the election have been widely disputed but even if they
were true it is worth remembering what he was like as a president, and why
he absolutely should not be one again.

It's still staggering to believe that he was ever the President of the
United States and given the amount of controversy surrounding him.

Yet, he might still get a second chance if his 2024 campaign is successful
which is hard to comprehend given that he now has four indictment charges
looming over his head and potential jail time as a result, should he be
found guilty.

Some of the charges pale against some of the things he did and said while
he was in the White House which ranged from the absurd to the downright
scandalous.

If you just need a reminder of those discrepancies, here are 59 of his
worst acts when he held office.

Read to the end, if you dare.
1. When he dismissed Russian interference in the election

The spectre of Russia has haunted Trump since the 2016 election that
brought him to power. Post-election analysis of data by the likes of
academics seems to suggest that yes, Russian interference played a part in
it.

But Trump, funnily enough, has never been keen to examine the role Russia
might have had in seeing him elected. This means he�s not only blocked
every attempt to investigate it but also sacked multiple officials who�ve
threatened to do so, like former FBI director James Comey. Trump even
admitted that Russia was part of his reasoning for firing Comey, making him
only the second American president to sack his FBI director. Historic.
2. When he appointed his unqualified family to top administration roles

� (@)

Ah, the sweet smell of nepotism. As soon as Trump went to the White House,
so did his family. But breaking with protocol, members of the extended
Trump clan quickly received important high-ranking roles. Like daughter
Ivanka and her husband Jared who are now special advisors, a role that is
very vague but ensures they�re essentially part of running the country.
Ivanka�s attempt to mingle with world leaders at the 2019 G20 summit was
widely ridiculed.

It�s not stopped her, or the other Trumps, from ascending the power ladder
though.
3. When he was literally impeached

You have to do something pretty bad to be impeached. Like have sexual
relations with a much more junior member of staff and then lie about it.
The accusation facing Donald Trump was that he pressured Ukraine to dig up
dirt on Joe Biden and his son Hunter, threatening to withhold aid unless
the Ukrainian president complied with his wishes.

Trump was acquitted by the Republican Senate majority but people can
examine the evidence for themselves�
4. When he tried to ban TikTok

� (@)

Donald Trump wasn�t aware of TikTok at the start of 2020 � but now the
viral app ranked high on his list of enemies that summer. Why? Teens.

It wasn�t until teens claimed credit for half-filled seats at Trump�s
�comeback� rally in Tulsa.

After that, Trump decided the Chinese-owned app was a national security
threat and has now forced the sale of TikTok in order for it to continue
operating in the US.

Funnily enough, senior leaders who work at winning bidder Oracle, have a
very close relationship with Trump�s administration.

Oracle�s win was a surprise, with most expecting Microsoft to succeed with
their bid to �partner� with TikTok�s owners in the US.

Keep your friends close and your enemy apps closer!
5. When he approved a devastating oil pipeline through Native land

One of the very first things Trump did on ascending to office, was revive
plans for a huge oil pipeline that had been rejected by Barack Obama.

Despite Obama deciding that the pipeline was not only environmentally
unsound, it would also not deliver on promises such as lowering petrol
prices, Trump merrily fired out an executive order in January 2017, signing
off on the Keystone XL pipeline which would � pump some of Canada�s most
dangerous oil products over nearly 1,200 miles of US land and Indigenous
territories largely for export to other countries�.

Priorities.
6. When he called far-right protestors �very fine people�

Remember Charlottesville? The white supremacist rally where counter-
protestor Heather Heyer was killed after a member of the far-right drove a
car into her. Well according to Trump, there were �very fine people� on
both sides of that protest. One side was made up of Neo-Nazis and white
supremacists. The other wasn�t.
7. When he appointed a far-right nationalist his chief strategist

� (@)

When Trump entered the White House, so did Steve Bannon, a man regularly
described as a �far-right nationalist�. Eventually, he was fired after
Trump reportedly got sick of sharing the spotlight. Now he�s been charged
with fraud after embezzling funds donated by Trump supporters to a crowd
funder to build the infamous border wall. Classy.
8. When he imposed a �Muslim travel ban�

� (@)

In 2017 Trump signed an executive order that temporarily suspended
immigration to the US for all citizens of seven Muslim majority countries
for 90 days. Citizens of Iraq, Syria, Iran, Sudan, Libya, Somalia and Yemen
suddenly found themselves unable to enter America. Massive protests
immediately took place as a response with courts eventually finding the ban
unlawful and overturning it.

That didn�t stop Trump though; he issued a new ban in 2018 that instead
restricted how many visas could be issued to applicants from Iran, Libya,
Somalia, Syria and Yemen, along with Venezuela and North Korea.

This ban was eventually upheld by the Supreme Court. And in February it was
expanded to cover citizens from Nigeria, Eritrea, Tanzania, Sudan,
Kyrgyzstan and Myanmar.
9. When he (repeatedly) refused to release his tax returns

� (@)

From the very beginning, Trump refused to drop his taxes. Why? We can only
guess. But former lawyer Michael Cohen suggested it might be for a very
Trumpian reason.

�He doesn�t report the income he claims,� Cohen claimed during an interview
to promote his book, Disloyal.

�His wealth is not as significant, and I imagine they were probably lenient
in how they took deductions�.

He also said releasing the tax returns might throw up more problems for
Trump.

�His biggest fear is, if that tax return was released, there�s a whole slew
of accountants and forensic accountants that will rip through it and he
will end up with a massive tax bill, penalties, fines, and possibly even
tax fraud,� Cohen added.
10. When he tried to stop transgender students from using school bathrooms
in line with their gender

In February 2017, Trump decided to go after one of the most marginalised
groups possible by removing protections for trans students which allowed
them to use bathrooms corroborating with their gender identity.

The harm the policy could cause was so evident that even education
secretary Betsy DeVos opposed the move because of the effect it would have
on trans students.

Trump went ahead with it anyway.
11. When he lied about his inauguration crowd sizes

Size matters to Trump which is why he and his team practised their very
first professional gaslighting by insisting that the crowds gathered for
his inauguration were the �largest ever�, despite extensive photographic
evidence to the contrary.

Later it emerged a government photographer had even edited photos to make
�crowds appear bigger�, according to a Guardian investigation.
12. When repeatedly called Elizabeth Warren �Pocahontas�

After Elizabeth Warren revealed she had Native American ancestry (which
wasn�t too well received by actual Native Americans), Trump gave her a new
nickname: Pocahontas.

But rather than mock just Warren, the nickname serves to ridicule Native
Americans and indigenous cultures as a whole.
13. When he doubled fees at his resort hotel after becoming president

What�s the first thing you do when you become the leader of the �free�
world? Jack up the membership fees at your beach resort.

After Trump�s election, Mar-a-Lago, the shining jewel in his gilt-coated
crown, doubled its initiation fee to $200,000.

At the time, Norm Eisen, Barack Obama�s top ethics lawyer, called it �not
very subtle exploitation of the fact that the club�s figurehead is now
president of the U.S.�

�This type of naked profiteering off of a government office is what I would
expect from King Louis XVI or his modern kleptocratic equivalents, not an
American president,� Eisen said.

Preach.
14. Tried to penalise �sanctuary cities� for migrants

Sanctuary cities are a loose name for states or localities that have
regulations which can act as an obstacle for Immigration and Customs
Enforcement (ICE) to hunt down migrants they think they can deport.

On Fri, 9 Aug 2024 13:20:11 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:

>I was watching a segment on Newsmax or Fox this morning and a reporter was out on the streets of
>Allentown PA questioning random people about who they are going to vote for and why.
>There were a lot of undecideds but an equal amount of Trump vs Harris voters for the most part.
>
>So one hispanic lady went on and on about how she can't afford to feed her family, they eat
>leftovers and cheap food, she turns the lights out, limits the use of heat and A/C and so forth.
>
>So then the reporter asked her who she was going to vote for and she immediately said "Harris". The
>reporter was dumbfounded and followed up with the question "so who do you think would be better for
>the economy?" and the lady gave it some thought and said "Trump".
>The final question was, if the economy and YOUR life is so bad now, why would you vote for Harris?
>
>The answer was "because she represents the average people like me and is more presidential".
>And folks, these are the type of idiots who will be voting in Novembe

She's not an idiot. She understands this difference between the candidates.

<https://www.gocomics.com/bill-bramhall/2024/07/24>

Trump has lost the popular vote twice.

After a four year audition the voters turned him out.

We're not letting the crazy old snowflake back in.

Trumplthinskin, indeed.

#nevertrump

Governor Swill wrote:
> We're not letting the crazy old snowflake back in.

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Allen Pruitt/james g.
keegan/Malte Runz and a dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
Notes
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

On Fri, 9 Aug 2024 13:20:11 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:

>On 2024-08-09, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 7 Aug 2024 16:33:06 -0500, AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Things Kamala Harris supports:
>>>
>>>-Abolishing ICE
>>>-Decriminalizing illegal crossings
>>>-Defunding the police
>>>-Mandatory gun buy backs (confiscations)
>>>-Nationalizing energy
>>>-Banning fracking
>>>-Banning off shore drilling
>>>-Abolishing the filibuster
>>>-Supporting the GND
>>>-Ending private health insurance
>>>-Free healthcare for all including illegals
>>>-Mass amnesty for illegals
>>>-Ending the death penalty
>>>-Abolishing prisons
>>>-Ending cash bail
>>>-Ending mandatory minimum sentences
>>>-Imposing carbon tax
>>>-Child gender reassignment surgery and hormone replacement therapy
>>>
>>>==============================================================================
>>>
>>>And YOU want THIS to be President:
>>>
>>
>> The media won't tell you that. People think this election is
>> Brewster's Millions.
>
>Indeed.
>I was watching a segment on Newsmax or Fox this morning and a reporter was out on the streets of
>Allentown PA questioning random people about who they are going to vote for and why.
>There were a lot of undecideds but an equal amount of Trump vs Harris voters for the most part.
>
>So one hispanic lady went on and on about how she can't afford to feed her family, they eat
>leftovers and cheap food, she turns the lights out, limits the use of heat and A/C and so forth.
>
>So then the reporter asked her who she was going to vote for and she immediately said "Harris". The
>reporter was dumbfounded and followed up with the question "so who do you think would be better for
>the economy?" and the lady gave it some thought and said "Trump".
>The final question was, if the economy and YOUR life is so bad now, why would you vote for Harris?
>
>The answer was "because she represents the average people like me and is more presidential".
>And folks, these are the type of idiots who will be voting in November.

I saw the same video and was so disheartened. 90% of the people who
support Kamela won't be able to tell you what she stands for. They
will be in for quite the shock should Harris actually be elected.

On 2024-08-10, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Aug 2024 13:20:11 -0000 (UTC), pothead
><pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>
>>On 2024-08-09, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 7 Aug 2024 16:33:06 -0500, AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Things Kamala Harris supports:
>>>>
>>>>-Abolishing ICE
>>>>-Decriminalizing illegal crossings
>>>>-Defunding the police
>>>>-Mandatory gun buy backs (confiscations)
>>>>-Nationalizing energy
>>>>-Banning fracking
>>>>-Banning off shore drilling
>>>>-Abolishing the filibuster
https://www.rsbnetwork.com/video/live-president-donald-j-trump-to-hold-a-rally-in-bozeman-mt-8-9-24/
>>>>-Supporting the GND
>>>>-Ending private health insurance
>>>>-Free healthcare for all including illegals
>>>>-Mass amnesty for illegals
>>>>-Ending the death penalty
>>>>-Abolishing prisons
>>>>-Ending cash bail
>>>>-Ending mandatory minimum sentences
>>>>-Imposing carbon tax
>>>>-Child gender reassignment surgery and hormone replacement therapy
>>>>
>>>>==============================================================================
>>>>
>>>>And YOU want THIS to be President:
>>>>
>>>
>>> The media won't tell you that. People think this election is
>>> Brewster's Millions.
>>
>>Indeed.
>>I was watching a segment on Newsmax or Fox this morning and a reporter was out on the streets of
>>Allentown PA questioning random people about who they are going to vote for and why.
>>There were a lot of undecideds but an equal amount of Trump vs Harris voters for the most part.
>>
>>So one hispanic lady went on and on about how she can't afford to feed her family, they eat
>>leftovers and cheap food, she turns the lights out, limits the use of heat and A/C and so forth.
>>
>>So then the reporter asked her who she was going to vote for and she immediately said "Harris". The
>>reporter was dumbfounded and followed up with the question "so who do you think would be better for
>>the economy?" and the lady gave it some thought and said "Trump".
>>The final question was, if the economy and YOUR life is so bad now, why would you vote for Harris?
>>
>>The answer was "because she represents the average people like me and is more presidential".
>>And folks, these are the type of idiots who will be voting in November.
>
> I saw the same video and was so disheartened. 90% of the people who
> support Kamela won't be able to tell you what she stands for. They
> will be in for quite the shock should Harris actually be elected.

And that is the strategy that the democrats are using.
With the mainstream radical left media rebranding Kamala as a modern day Joan Of Arc coupled with
mindless rah, rah, rallies that have no mention of specific policies and are packed with lies they
might just pull this off.
The sad part is like with Joe Biden, who used the same strategy, if elected it will be too late and
we all will suffer.
Trump needs to hammer on with exposing the truth about Kamala / Walz and their far left radical
Marxist agenda because the mainstream media is burying this.

--
pothead
Kamala Harris = Four More Years Of Obama.
Send Her To The Curb.
Vote snit "Kook Of the Decade".

NoBody wrote:

>90% of the people who
>support Kamela won't be able to tell you what she stands for.

Well they know that she's for "womens reproductive rights", at least.
That's enough, right there, to garner about 80% of the women's vote,
since they think it's so GD important that they can abort a baby
whenever they want that it overrides all other issues.

Generally speaking, pregnancy can be prevented. Find a different
issue to latch on to!

chrisv wrote:
> NoBody wrote:
>
>> 90% of the people who
>> support Kamela won't be able to tell you what she stands for.
>
> Well they know that she's for "womens reproductive rights", at least.
> That's enough, right there, to garner about 80% of the women's vote,
> since they think it's so GD important that they can abort a baby
> whenever they want that it overrides all other issues.
>
> Generally speaking, pregnancy can be prevented. Find a different
> issue to latch on to!
>
+1

chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote in
news:7i3fbjd7ll99if8e3t17bh41dsoa64do57@4ax.com:

> NoBody wrote:
>
>>90% of the people who
>>support Kamela won't be able to tell you what she stands for.
>
> Well they know that she's for "womens reproductive rights", at least.
> That's enough, right there, to garner about 80% of the women's vote,
> since they think it's so GD important that they can abort a baby
> whenever they want that it overrides all other issues.

Conservaative logic: 12 year olds are
too young to babysit but old enough to be
mothers.

>
> Generally speaking, pregnancy can be prevented. Find a different
> issue to latch on to!
>

Abortion rights are popular with
the voters, it wins everytime it is put
on the ballot, the GOP nailed their anti
abortion flag to mast, now they are stuck
with it.

Mitchell Holman wrote:
> Conservaative logic:

Not from your lying cornholing self.

Mitchell Holman wrote:
> Abortion rights are popular with
> the voters,

Bullshit lie!

They're popular with Uniparty and their desire for status quo polarization.

Chips Loral wrote:
> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> Abortion rights are popular with
>> the voters,
>
> Bullshit lie!
>
> They're popular with Uniparty and their desire for status quo polarization.

bomb threat

Chips Loral wrote:

> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>
>> Conservaative logic:
>
> Not from your lying cornholing self.

Exactly. They like to focus on the exceptions, ignoring the greater
evil.

chrisv wrote:
> Chips Loral wrote:
>
>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>
>>> Conservaative logic:
>>
>> Not from your lying cornholing self.
>
> Exactly. They like to focus on the exceptions, ignoring the greater
> evil.
>
Cornholer is particularly prod of his little haiku indictments, as if he
has some kind of all-knowing wisdom to share with us.

I wonder what became of his butt buddy Lubow?

Chips Loral wrote:
> chrisv wrote:
>> Chips Loral wrote:
>>
>>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Conservaative logic:
>>>
>>> Not from your lying cornholing self.
>>
>> Exactly.  They like to focus on the exceptions, ignoring the greater
>> evil.
>>
> Cornholer is particularly prod of his little haiku indictments, as if he
> has some kind of all-knowing wisdom to share  with us.
>
> I wonder what became of his butt buddy Lubow?

he met me

Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote:
> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote in
> news:7i3fbjd7ll99if8e3t17bh41dsoa64do57@4ax.com:
>
>> NoBody wrote:
>>
>>> 90% of the people who
>>> support Kamela won't be able to tell you what she stands for.
>>
>> Well they know that she's for "womens reproductive rights", at least.
>> That's enough, right there, to garner about 80% of the women's vote,
>> since they think it's so GD important that they can abort a baby
>> whenever they want that it overrides all other issues.
>
> Conservaative logic: 12 year olds are
> too young to babysit but old enough to be
> mothers.

…even when physiologically, it is likely to kill them.

>> Generally speaking, pregnancy can be prevented. Find a different
>> issue to latch on to!

Prevention requires resources. But Republicans deliberately choose to
limit access of these to “the poors”, since they despise the concept of
poor people having any happiness.

> Abortion rights are popular with
> the voters, it wins everytime it is put
> on the ballot, the GOP nailed their anti
> abortion flag to mast, now they are stuck
> with it.
>

Yup.

-hh

On Sat, 10 Aug 2024 14:10:03 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:

>
>And that is the strategy that the democrats are using.
>With the mainstream radical left media rebranding Kamala as a modern day Joan Of Arc coupled with
>mindless rah, rah, rallies that have no mention of specific policies and are packed with lies they
>might just pull this off.
>The sad part is like with Joe Biden, who used the same strategy, if elected it will be too late and
>we all will suffer.
>Trump needs to hammer on with exposing the truth about Kamala / Walz and their far left radical
>Marxist agenda because the mainstream media is burying this.

You're missing the point. GOP policies are very unpopular, Harris isn't Donald Trump and
now, Trump is the old feeb.

#nevertrump

On Sat, 10 Aug 2024 11:03:35 -0500, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:

>Well they know that she's for "womens reproductive rights", at least.
>That's enough, right there, to garner about 80% of the women's vote,
>since they think it's so GD important that they can abort a baby
>whenever they want that it overrides all other issues.

Unless you have a uterus, I don't think it's any of your business.

#nevertrump

On Sat, 10 Aug 2024 18:20:59 +0000, Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> wrote:

>chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote in
>news:7i3fbjd7ll99if8e3t17bh41dsoa64do57@4ax.com:
>
>> NoBody wrote:
>>
>>>90% of the people who
>>>support Kamela won't be able to tell you what she stands for.
>>
>> Well they know that she's for "womens reproductive rights", at least.
>> That's enough, right there, to garner about 80% of the women's vote,
>> since they think it's so GD important that they can abort a baby
>> whenever they want that it overrides all other issues.
>
>
> Conservaative logic: 12 year olds are too young to babysit but old enough to be
>mothers.

Given the hysterical screaming from the right about pedophiles and groomers, you'll be
surprised to learn that Tennessee Republicans have advanced a bill that establishes common
law marriage between one man and one woman and eliminates the minimum age requirement for
marriage. It's HB 233 which is not only a blatant attack on same sex marriage, it's a
gift to pedophiles as it has no age restrictions or requirements. Once more we see the
Republicans proving that every accusation is a confession.

>> Generally speaking, pregnancy can be prevented.

Pity stupidity can't.

>> Find a different issue to latch on to!

We tried education but you snowflakes whined about it.

> Abortion rights are popular with the voters, it wins everytime it is put
>on the ballot, the GOP nailed their anti-abortion flag to mast, now they are stuck
>with it.

The Republicans have lost almost all of their races since Dobbs was announced.

#nevertrump

On Sat, 10 Aug 2024 14:10:03 -0000 (UTC), pothead
<pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:

>On 2024-08-10, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 9 Aug 2024 13:20:11 -0000 (UTC), pothead
>><pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On 2024-08-09, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 7 Aug 2024 16:33:06 -0500, AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Things Kamala Harris supports:
>>>>>
>>>>>-Abolishing ICE
>>>>>-Decriminalizing illegal crossings
>>>>>-Defunding the police
>>>>>-Mandatory gun buy backs (confiscations)
>>>>>-Nationalizing energy
>>>>>-Banning fracking
>>>>>-Banning off shore drilling
>>>>>-Abolishing the filibuster
>https://www.rsbnetwork.com/video/live-president-donald-j-trump-to-hold-a-rally-in-bozeman-mt-8-9-24/
>>>>>-Supporting the GND
>>>>>-Ending private health insurance
>>>>>-Free healthcare for all including illegals
>>>>>-Mass amnesty for illegals
>>>>>-Ending the death penalty
>>>>>-Abolishing prisons
>>>>>-Ending cash bail
>>>>>-Ending mandatory minimum sentences
>>>>>-Imposing carbon tax
>>>>>-Child gender reassignment surgery and hormone replacement therapy
>>>>>
>>>>>==============================================================================
>>>>>
>>>>>And YOU want THIS to be President:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The media won't tell you that. People think this election is
>>>> Brewster's Millions.
>>>
>>>Indeed.
>>>I was watching a segment on Newsmax or Fox this morning and a reporter was out on the streets of
>>>Allentown PA questioning random people about who they are going to vote for and why.
>>>There were a lot of undecideds but an equal amount of Trump vs Harris voters for the most part.
>>>
>>>So one hispanic lady went on and on about how she can't afford to feed her family, they eat
>>>leftovers and cheap food, she turns the lights out, limits the use of heat and A/C and so forth.
>>>
>>>So then the reporter asked her who she was going to vote for and she immediately said "Harris". The
>>>reporter was dumbfounded and followed up with the question "so who do you think would be better for
>>>the economy?" and the lady gave it some thought and said "Trump".
>>>The final question was, if the economy and YOUR life is so bad now, why would you vote for Harris?
>>>
>>>The answer was "because she represents the average people like me and is more presidential".
>>>And folks, these are the type of idiots who will be voting in November.
>>
>> I saw the same video and was so disheartened. 90% of the people who
>> support Kamela won't be able to tell you what she stands for. They
>> will be in for quite the shock should Harris actually be elected.
>
>And that is the strategy that the democrats are using.
>With the mainstream radical left media rebranding Kamala as a modern day Joan Of Arc coupled with
>mindless rah, rah, rallies that have no mention of specific policies and are packed with lies they
>might just pull this off.
>The sad part is like with Joe Biden, who used the same strategy, if elected it will be too late and
>we all will suffer.
>Trump needs to hammer on with exposing the truth about Kamala / Walz and their far left radical
>Marxist agenda because the mainstream media is burying this.

If you needed any proof that our media and education systems have
failed us, you merely need to look at this sudden "popularity". People
don't seem smart enough to ask any questions.

On Sat, 10 Aug 2024 15:18:59 -0500, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:

>Chips Loral wrote:
>
>> Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>
>>> Conservaative logic:
>>
>> Not from your lying cornholing self.
>
>Exactly. They like to focus on the exceptions, ignoring the greater
>evil.

We're not ignoring Trump.

#nevertrump

LOCK HIM UP!
LOCK HIM UP!
LOCK HIM UP!
LOCK HIM UP!

On Sat, 10 Aug 2024 11:03:35 -0500, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

>NoBody wrote:
>
>>90% of the people who
>>support Kamela won't be able to tell you what she stands for.
>
>Well they know that she's for "womens reproductive rights", at least.
>That's enough, right there, to garner about 80% of the women's vote,

Well they already have that right in most states. The Supreme Court
decided (rightly) that abortion is not in the Constitution and thus
subject to regulation by the state. Apparently they aren't bright
enough to understand how the basic document of the country works.

>since they think it's so GD important that they can abort a baby
>whenever they want that it overrides all other issues.

Murder on demand...yeah that's an important issue to vote on.

>
>Generally speaking, pregnancy can be prevented. Find a different
>issue to latch on to!

Kamela knows she can't do what she said but she's peddling her
nonsense because people are stupid.

Governor Swill wrote:

>We tried education but you snowflakes whined about it.

Nope. You tried indoctrination.

You sure spew a lot of bullshit. Are you related to -highhorse, by
chance?

BTW, cherry-picking one state with a "bad rightest law" pales in
comparison to the states with "bad leftist laws". In Tampon Tim's
state, there is no ban or limit on abortion in Minnesota based on how
far along in pregnancy you are! That's right, you can kill your baby
right up until the day it would have been born!

chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>Governor Swill wrote:
>
>>We tried education but you snowflakes whined about it.
>
>Nope. You tried indoctrination.
>
>You sure spew a lot of bullshit. Are you related to -highhorse, by
>chance?
>
>BTW, cherry-picking one state with a "bad rightest law" pales in
>comparison to the states with "bad leftist laws". In Tampon Tim's
>state, there is no ban or limit on abortion in Minnesota based on how
>far along in pregnancy you are! That's right, you can kill your baby
>right up until the day it would have been born!

My position on late term abortion is very simple. It *is* a homicide,
in theory and in practice, to abort a viable fetus without a medical
indication. However, I would prohibit law enforcement or prosecuting
attorneys, from investigating, a surgical abortion performer. In
effect, abortion would be uncontrolled.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On Sun, 11 Aug 2024 16:36:37 -0500, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:

>Governor Swill wrote:
>
>>We tried education but you snowflakes whined about it.
>
>Nope. You tried indoctrination.
>
>You sure spew a lot of bullshit. Are you related to -highhorse, by
>chance?
>
>BTW, cherry-picking one state with a "bad rightest law" pales in
>comparison to the states with "bad leftist laws". In Tampon Tim's
>state, there is no ban or limit on abortion in Minnesota based on how
>far along in pregnancy you are! That's right, you can kill your baby
>right up until the day it would have been born!

Why do you lie? Why? Especially lies that are so easily debunked.

Less than 1% of abortions are done after 21 weeks and late abortions are done only when
the mother's health is at risk or the fetus is badly defective. I support abortion for
both of those reasons.

#nevertrump