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* Another Man Done Gonerbowman
+- Re: Another Man Done GoneJoel
+* Re: Another Man Done GoneDFS
|`- Re: Another Man Done Gone%
`* Re: Another Man Done GoneChris Ahlstrom
 `- Re: Another Man Done GoneDFS

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Subject: Another Man Done Gone
From: rbowman
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2024 22:57 UTC
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From: bowman@montana.com (rbowman)
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Subject: Another Man Done Gone
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https://www.theregister.com/2024/08/09/
core_python_developer_suspended_coc/

The Python Steering Council has decided to suspend a core Python developer
for three months for alleged Code of Conduct violations.

Subject: Re: Another Man Done Gone
From: Joel
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From: joelcrump@gmail.com (Joel)
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Subject: Re: Another Man Done Gone
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rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

>https://www.theregister.com/2024/08/09/
>core_python_developer_suspended_coc/
>
>The Python Steering Council has decided to suspend a core Python developer
>for three months for alleged Code of Conduct violations.

It sounds like they just want peace in the workplace, leave the drama
outside. God forbid that. I admit, I'm an offensive person at times,
but for better or worse I don't officially have a job, so I don't have
this kind of dilemma of offending coworkers. I'm not gonna judge this
guy, in other words, but nor will I judge his boss(es) who have to
cope with it.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Subject: Re: Another Man Done Gone
From: DFS
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Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2024 23:43 UTC
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Subject: Re: Another Man Done Gone
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2024 19:43:45 -0400
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On 8/9/2024 6:57 PM, rbowman wrote:

> https://www.theregister.com/2024/08/09/
> core_python_developer_suspended_coc/
>
> The Python Steering Council has decided to suspend a core Python developer
> for three months for alleged Code of Conduct violations.

It's Tim Peters. He created Timsort.

I was following some related links and saw a Python board member (David
Mertz) said:

"Our current board has a majority of people from the Global South or
otherwise marginalized groups. That is encouraging and an extremely
positive thing. As long as people who are demographically similar to me
do not again have a majority, I have the utmost faith in the Board."

I emailed him and reminded him there would be no Python without White
males, and that he was a self-hating loser.

Subject: Re: Another Man Done Gone
From: %
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Subject: Re: Another Man Done Gone
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DFS wrote:
> On 8/9/2024 6:57 PM, rbowman wrote:
>
>> https://www.theregister.com/2024/08/09/
>> core_python_developer_suspended_coc/
>>
>> The Python Steering Council has decided to suspend a core Python
>> developer
>> for three months for alleged Code of Conduct violations.
>
>
> It's Tim Peters.  He created Timsort.
>
> I was following some related links and saw a Python board member (David
> Mertz) said:
>
>
> "Our current board has a majority of people from the Global South or
> otherwise marginalized groups. That is encouraging and an extremely
> positive thing. As long as people who are demographically similar to me
> do not again have a majority, I have the utmost faith in the Board."
>
>
> I emailed him and reminded him there would be no Python without White
> males, and that he was a self-hating loser.
>
>
i'll bet that just totally destroyed any credit he may have had

Subject: Re: Another Man Done Gone
From: Chris Ahlstrom
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Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2024 12:08 UTC
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From: OFeem1987@teleworm.us (Chris Ahlstrom)
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Subject: Re: Another Man Done Gone
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rbowman wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> https://www.theregister.com/2024/08/09/core_python_developer_suspended_coc/
>
> The Python Steering Council has decided to suspend a core Python developer
> for three months for alleged Code of Conduct violations.

So Python has moderators! Based on that URL, he seems to be a bit of an
asshole. He would fit right in here :-.

--
Someone is speaking well of you.

Subject: Re: Another Man Done Gone
From: DFS
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Subject: Re: Another Man Done Gone
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On 8/10/2024 8:08 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> rbowman wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> https://www.theregister.com/2024/08/09/core_python_developer_suspended_coc/
>>
>> The Python Steering Council has decided to suspend a core Python developer
>> for three months for alleged Code of Conduct violations.
>
> So Python has moderators! Based on that URL, he seems to be a bit of an
> asshole. He would fit right in here :-.

He sounds like a normal guy being scrutinized by a bunch of
politically-correct Chris Ahlstrom-type weenies.

"The user showed these repeated violations of the following behaviors
expected by the Code of Conduct:

* Overloading the discussion of the bylaws change (47 out of 177 posts
in topic at the time the moderators closed the topic), which created an
atmosphere of fear, uncertainty, and doubt, which encouraged
increasingly emotional responses from other community members. The later
result of the vote showed 81% support for the most controversial of the
bylaws changes, which demonstrates the controversy was blown out of
proportion.

* Defending “reverse racism” and “reverse sexism”, concepts not backed
by empirical evidence, which could be seen as deliberate intimidation or
creating an exclusionary environment.

* Using potentially offensive language or slurs, in one case even
calling an SNL skit from the 1970s using the same slur “genuinely
funny”, which shows a lack of empathy towards other community members.

* Making light of sensitive topics like workplace sexual harassment,
which could be interpreted as harassment or creating an unwelcoming
environment.

* Casually mentioning scenarios involving sexual abuse, which may be
inappropriate or triggering for some audiences.

* Discussing bans or removals of community members, which may be seen as
publishing private information without permission.

* Dismissing unacceptable behavior of others as a “neurodivergent”
trait, which is problematic because it creates a stereotype that
neurodivergent people are hard to interact with and need special treatment.

* Excessive discussion of controversial topics or past conflicts, which
could be seen as sustained disruption of community discussions.

* Use of potentially offensive terms, even when self-censored or alluded
to indirectly.

* Making assumptions or speculations about other community members’
motivations and/or mental health."

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