<https://uncoverdc.com/2024/08/04/fams-whistleblowers-report-tulsi-gabbard-on-quiet-skies-list>

In an exclusive breaking story, several Federal Air Marshal
whistleblowers have come forward with information showing that former
U.S. Representative and Presidential candidate Tulsi Gabbard is
currently enrolled in the Quiet Skies program. Quiet Skies is a TSA
surveillance program with its own compartmentalized suspected terrorist
watchlist. It is the same program being weaponized against J6 defendants
and their families. Quiet Skies is allegedly used to protect traveling
Americans from suspected domestic terrorists. The photo below is a
screenshot from the actual Target Package used by the FAMS to surveil
Gabbard.

(...)

--
CrudeSausage
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king
Progressives are brain-damaged demonic groomers

Trump is a pro-terrorist Communist which is why he surrendered to the
Taliban. Most terrorists are conservative, mostly religious lunatics but
trump is a cocksucker and his J6 terrorist followers are filling our
prisons.

Trump�s deal with the Taliban set the stage for the Afghan collapse
by David Schanzer, opinion contributor - 08/17/21 11:30 AM ET

History will mark Aug. 15, 2021, as the date that the Afghan government
collapsed and the Taliban retook control over this troubled and war-torn
country. But the real date that the Taliban�s victory was assured is Feb.
29, 2020, the day the Trump administration signed what it characterized as
a �peace� deal with the Taliban. Once this agreement was signed � the
tragic collapse we witnessed this weekend was inevitable.

Of course, the agreement was not, and could not possibly have been, a
�peace� deal since one of the parties currently at war � the Afghan
government � was not a signatory. Rather, this was a �withdrawal� agreement
between the U.S. and the Taliban that set the terms for the complete
departure of American troops from Afghanistan by May 2021.

What did the United States gain in exchange for this withdrawal, for which
the Taliban had been fighting for 20 years? Nothing but vague,
unenforceable promises that the Taliban would not engage in hostilities
against the departing U.S. troops and would �send a clear message� to al
Qaeda that it �had no place� in Afghanistan. So eager Trump was to
withdraw, we did not even hold out for a clear, firm commitment that the
Taliban would not provide aid, safe harbor or weaponry to al Qaeda and
like-minded groups. The agreement contained no enforcement mechanisms and
included no penalties on the Taliban for failing to comply with its terms.

Once the agreement was signed, the fate of the Afghan government was
signed, sealed and delivered � the Taliban had practically won the war.
There was no way that the government could possibly survive.

The fact that the United States entered into negotiations and then an
agreement with the Taliban, without even inviting the Afghan government to
the table, undercut the power and legitimacy of the government. The
citizenry, including those in the national armed services and police, could
plainly see that its own government was being ignored, a helpless bystander
in critical discussions about the country�s future. After we had cut the
legs out from under this government and rendered it a paper tiger, it is no
wonder that when those serving in the Afghan army and police were asked to
fight, most said, �No, thanks.�

The agreement also did absolutely nothing to attempt to bring about a
peaceful settlement of the war between the Afghan government and the
Taliban. A genuine peace deal would have made our withdrawal contingent on
the progress of peace negotiations between the Afghan government and the
Taliban. But it did not. Trump agreed unconditionally to bring down U.S.
troop levels to 8,600 by mid-July 2020 and totally withdraw by May 2021.

The agreement anticipated there would be peace negotiations, but in August,
Trump voluntarily cut troop levels down to 4,500, even more quickly than
required by the agreement, even though negotiations had not even begun.
This was a clear signal there would be no linkage between withdrawals and
peace, contrary to what U.S. diplomats were telling the parties. This
signal was received loud and clear by the Taliban. They balked at starting
negotiations until December, and even then, had zero incentive to make any
concessions since Trump had already announced that there would be only
2,500 troops in Afghanistan by the time he left office, the smallest U.S.
force in 20 years. It was clear to the Taliban that the Americans were
quickly headed for the exits.

When the fighting season began again this year, the only hope for the
Afghan government was to show that it could stand up to the Taliban even
with reduced American support to gain leverage at the bargaining table. But
results on the ground were just the opposite. The Taliban gobbled up
territory more quickly than it had in years. As the Taliban�s power
increased, it had even less reason to engage in peace negotiations.

To stem the Taliban�s momentum on the ground this spring, the Biden
administration would have had to not only abrogate the Trump withdrawal
agreement but also deploy more troops and get them more deeply involved in
the fighting. This would have breached Biden�s campaign commitment to end
the war in Afghanistan and ran against the strong bipartisan public support
for withdrawal.

The Taliban reads statements from American politicians and likely watches
poll numbers. They could not have been surprised when, in April, Biden
reaffirmed the American commitment to a complete withdrawal of troops,
albeit on a somewhat slower timetable.

The Taliban knew it had won the war once Biden�s predecessor had signed the
troop withdrawal agreement � now it was only a matter of time.

David Schanzer is a professor of public policy at the Sanford School of
Public Policy at Duke University and the director of the Triangle Center on
Terrorism and Homeland Security.

On 2024-08-05, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
><https://uncoverdc.com/2024/08/04/fams-whistleblowers-report-tulsi-gabbard-on-quiet-skies-list>
>
> In an exclusive breaking story, several Federal Air Marshal
> whistleblowers have come forward with information showing that former
> U.S. Representative and Presidential candidate Tulsi Gabbard is
> currently enrolled in the Quiet Skies program. Quiet Skies is a TSA
> surveillance program with its own compartmentalized suspected terrorist
> watchlist. It is the same program being weaponized against J6 defendants
> and their families. Quiet Skies is allegedly used to protect traveling
> Americans from suspected domestic terrorists. The photo below is a
> screenshot from the actual Target Package used by the FAMS to surveil
> Gabbard.
>
> (...)

Good grief. Insanity. I guess you're now a "terrorist" for disagreeing with
the official (insane) policy of the U.S. government. The same way you're a
"hater" for arguing against moron Woke Left ideology. This is what passes
off as "inclusivity" to the wannabe Stalins of the moron Woke world.

--
[Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an
entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

On 2024-08-05 7:26 p.m., RonB wrote:
> On 2024-08-05, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>> <https://uncoverdc.com/2024/08/04/fams-whistleblowers-report-tulsi-gabbard-on-quiet-skies-list>
>>
>> In an exclusive breaking story, several Federal Air Marshal
>> whistleblowers have come forward with information showing that former
>> U.S. Representative and Presidential candidate Tulsi Gabbard is
>> currently enrolled in the Quiet Skies program. Quiet Skies is a TSA
>> surveillance program with its own compartmentalized suspected terrorist
>> watchlist. It is the same program being weaponized against J6 defendants
>> and their families. Quiet Skies is allegedly used to protect traveling
>> Americans from suspected domestic terrorists. The photo below is a
>> screenshot from the actual Target Package used by the FAMS to surveil
>> Gabbard.
>>
>> (...)
>
> Good grief. Insanity. I guess you're now a "terrorist" for disagreeing with
> the official (insane) policy of the U.S. government. The same way you're a
> "hater" for arguing against moron Woke Left ideology. This is what passes
> off as "inclusivity" to the wannabe Stalins of the moron Woke world.

I can only imagine being someone like Ahlstrom, seeing this happen and
consciously deciding that everything is fine. Clearly, there is no
reason to suspect Tulsi of terrorism just as clearly as there was no
reason to lock people who showed up to Congress on January 6th, 2021 for
the rest of their lives. Nevertheless, it seems that these people have
swallowed the pill and will gladly say that they have always been at war
with Eastasia.

--
CrudeSausage
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king
Progressives are brain-damaged demonic groomers

On Mon, 5 Aug 2024 23:26:36 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

> Good grief. Insanity. I guess you're now a "terrorist" for disagreeing
> with the official (insane) policy of the U.S. government. The same way
> you're a "hater" for arguing against moron Woke Left ideology. This is
> what passes off as "inclusivity" to the wannabe Stalins of the moron
> Woke world.

Even worse, Gabbard insulted Queen Hillary. Lèse-majesté is a hanging
offense.

On 2024-08-06, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> On 2024-08-05 7:26 p.m., RonB wrote:
>> On 2024-08-05, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>> <https://uncoverdc.com/2024/08/04/fams-whistleblowers-report-tulsi-gabbard-on-quiet-skies-list>
>>>
>>> In an exclusive breaking story, several Federal Air Marshal
>>> whistleblowers have come forward with information showing that former
>>> U.S. Representative and Presidential candidate Tulsi Gabbard is
>>> currently enrolled in the Quiet Skies program. Quiet Skies is a TSA
>>> surveillance program with its own compartmentalized suspected terrorist
>>> watchlist. It is the same program being weaponized against J6 defendants
>>> and their families. Quiet Skies is allegedly used to protect traveling
>>> Americans from suspected domestic terrorists. The photo below is a
>>> screenshot from the actual Target Package used by the FAMS to surveil
>>> Gabbard.
>>>
>>> (...)
>>
>> Good grief. Insanity. I guess you're now a "terrorist" for disagreeing with
>> the official (insane) policy of the U.S. government. The same way you're a
>> "hater" for arguing against moron Woke Left ideology. This is what passes
>> off as "inclusivity" to the wannabe Stalins of the moron Woke world.
>
> I can only imagine being someone like Ahlstrom, seeing this happen and
> consciously deciding that everything is fine. Clearly, there is no
> reason to suspect Tulsi of terrorism just as clearly as there was no
> reason to lock people who showed up to Congress on January 6th, 2021 for
> the rest of their lives. Nevertheless, it seems that these people have
> swallowed the pill and will gladly say that they have always been at war
> with Eastasia.

Agreed. They're drones with their brains in neutral. If the MSM says it,
they believe it. They never question the inconsistencies. I saw a montage of
MSM talking heads, in unison and all using the same terms, are saying that
Kamala Harris was "never the border czar," and that the Republicans "made it
up." Unfortunately for these liars, there's a Congressional resolution using
the term in reference to her and videos of Biden (and/or his handlers) using
that term. But the Woke won't worry about that... they just absorb the
latest bullshit from the MSM and carry on — not a thought in their empty
heads.

--
[Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an
entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

On 2024-08-06, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Aug 2024 23:26:36 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>
>> Good grief. Insanity. I guess you're now a "terrorist" for disagreeing
>> with the official (insane) policy of the U.S. government. The same way
>> you're a "hater" for arguing against moron Woke Left ideology. This is
>> what passes off as "inclusivity" to the wannabe Stalins of the moron
>> Woke world.
>
> Even worse, Gabbard insulted Queen Hillary. Lèse-majesté is a hanging
> offense.

Hillary Clinton should be rotting in a Federal cell right now for her
illegal email server, releasing classified documents and destroying evidence
of her crimes. If she wasn't Hillary Clinton, she *would* be in prison.

--
[Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an
entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

rbowman wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Mon, 5 Aug 2024 23:26:36 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>
>> Good grief. Insanity. I guess you're now a "terrorist" for disagreeing
>> with the official (insane) policy of the U.S. government. The same way
>> you're a "hater" for arguing against moron Woke Left ideology. This is
>> what passes off as "inclusivity" to the wannabe Stalins of the moron
>> Woke world.
>
> Even worse, Gabbard insulted Queen Hillary. Lèse-majesté is a hanging
> offense.

I'd be wary of UncoverDC:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/06/us/politics/michael-flynn-qanon.html

...
Then there is his new media venture, Digital Soldiers, which will publish
reader-submitted stories. Mr. Flynn is building it with UncoverDC, a
website that has pushed QAnon and conspiracy theories about the Covid-19
pandemic and President Biden.
...

(I'd also be wary of the NY Times as well).

Interestingly, Linux once made us a target:

https://www.infoworld.com/article/2246885/nsa-may-be-targeting-linux-users-for-increased-surveillance.html

Linux Journal is reporting that apparently the NSA considers it an
“extremist forum” and the NSA may also be targeting Linux users for
increased surveillance. Linux Journal’s information is based on reports
issues by German media that disclosed details on who the NSA has been
targeting.

Sure a lotta paranoia in the US.

--
Why is it that we rejoice at a birth and grieve at a funeral? It is because we
are not the person involved.
-- Mark Twain, "Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar"

On 2024-08-05 10:06 p.m., RonB wrote:
> On 2024-08-06, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>> On 2024-08-05 7:26 p.m., RonB wrote:
>>> On 2024-08-05, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>> <https://uncoverdc.com/2024/08/04/fams-whistleblowers-report-tulsi-gabbard-on-quiet-skies-list>
>>>>
>>>> In an exclusive breaking story, several Federal Air Marshal
>>>> whistleblowers have come forward with information showing that former
>>>> U.S. Representative and Presidential candidate Tulsi Gabbard is
>>>> currently enrolled in the Quiet Skies program. Quiet Skies is a TSA
>>>> surveillance program with its own compartmentalized suspected terrorist
>>>> watchlist. It is the same program being weaponized against J6 defendants
>>>> and their families. Quiet Skies is allegedly used to protect traveling
>>>> Americans from suspected domestic terrorists. The photo below is a
>>>> screenshot from the actual Target Package used by the FAMS to surveil
>>>> Gabbard.
>>>>
>>>> (...)
>>>
>>> Good grief. Insanity. I guess you're now a "terrorist" for disagreeing with
>>> the official (insane) policy of the U.S. government. The same way you're a
>>> "hater" for arguing against moron Woke Left ideology. This is what passes
>>> off as "inclusivity" to the wannabe Stalins of the moron Woke world.
>>
>> I can only imagine being someone like Ahlstrom, seeing this happen and
>> consciously deciding that everything is fine. Clearly, there is no
>> reason to suspect Tulsi of terrorism just as clearly as there was no
>> reason to lock people who showed up to Congress on January 6th, 2021 for
>> the rest of their lives. Nevertheless, it seems that these people have
>> swallowed the pill and will gladly say that they have always been at war
>> with Eastasia.
>
> Agreed. They're drones with their brains in neutral. If the MSM says it,
> they believe it. They never question the inconsistencies. I saw a montage of
> MSM talking heads, in unison and all using the same terms, are saying that
> Kamala Harris was "never the border czar," and that the Republicans "made it
> up." Unfortunately for these liars, there's a Congressional resolution using
> the term in reference to her and videos of Biden (and/or his handlers) using
> that term. But the Woke won't worry about that... they just absorb the
> latest bullshit from the MSM and carry on — not a thought in their empty
> heads.

It's almost as if a progressive's firmware is constantly being
overwritten and the television media is the mechanism that updates the
software into their brains. It must be a serious challenge for these
people to write history papers if they're in university. They will have
written one draft on Monday about their war with Eastasia only to have
to write it again on Tuesday because they were always at war with
Eurasia. Same thing on Thursday.

--
CrudeSausage
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king
Progressives are brain-damaged demonic groomers

On 2024-08-06 7:06 a.m., Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> rbowman wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On Mon, 5 Aug 2024 23:26:36 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>>
>>> Good grief. Insanity. I guess you're now a "terrorist" for disagreeing
>>> with the official (insane) policy of the U.S. government. The same way
>>> you're a "hater" for arguing against moron Woke Left ideology. This is
>>> what passes off as "inclusivity" to the wannabe Stalins of the moron
>>> Woke world.
>>
>> Even worse, Gabbard insulted Queen Hillary. Lèse-majesté is a hanging
>> offense.
>
> I'd be wary of UncoverDC:
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/06/us/politics/michael-flynn-qanon.html
>
> ...
> Then there is his new media venture, Digital Soldiers, which will publish
> reader-submitted stories. Mr. Flynn is building it with UncoverDC, a
> website that has pushed QAnon and conspiracy theories about the Covid-19
> pandemic and President Biden.
> ...
>
> (I'd also be wary of the NY Times as well).

Others have reported that Tulsi Gabbard is on the terror-watch list.
Unsurprisingly, the mainstream media is not. I guess they will only do
so in a year or two.

> Sure a lotta paranoia in the US.

That's what happens when power is handed to unelected officials in
secretive three-letter organizations. It's not very different here in
Canada, except that our agencies have four letters like CSIS. What our
leaders are telling us is that whether we are progressive or
conservative, Muslim or Catholic, black or White, man or woman, we
should all be using VPNs and expecting the absolute worst.

--
CrudeSausage
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king
Progressives are brain-damaged demonic groomers

On 2024-08-06, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> On 2024-08-05 10:06 p.m., RonB wrote:
>> On 2024-08-06, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>> On 2024-08-05 7:26 p.m., RonB wrote:
>>>> On 2024-08-05, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>>> <https://uncoverdc.com/2024/08/04/fams-whistleblowers-report-tulsi-gabbard-on-quiet-skies-list>
>>>>>
>>>>> In an exclusive breaking story, several Federal Air Marshal
>>>>> whistleblowers have come forward with information showing that former
>>>>> U.S. Representative and Presidential candidate Tulsi Gabbard is
>>>>> currently enrolled in the Quiet Skies program. Quiet Skies is a TSA
>>>>> surveillance program with its own compartmentalized suspected terrorist
>>>>> watchlist. It is the same program being weaponized against J6 defendants
>>>>> and their families. Quiet Skies is allegedly used to protect traveling
>>>>> Americans from suspected domestic terrorists. The photo below is a
>>>>> screenshot from the actual Target Package used by the FAMS to surveil
>>>>> Gabbard.
>>>>>
>>>>> (...)
>>>>
>>>> Good grief. Insanity. I guess you're now a "terrorist" for disagreeing with
>>>> the official (insane) policy of the U.S. government. The same way you're a
>>>> "hater" for arguing against moron Woke Left ideology. This is what passes
>>>> off as "inclusivity" to the wannabe Stalins of the moron Woke world.
>>>
>>> I can only imagine being someone like Ahlstrom, seeing this happen and
>>> consciously deciding that everything is fine. Clearly, there is no
>>> reason to suspect Tulsi of terrorism just as clearly as there was no
>>> reason to lock people who showed up to Congress on January 6th, 2021 for
>>> the rest of their lives. Nevertheless, it seems that these people have
>>> swallowed the pill and will gladly say that they have always been at war
>>> with Eastasia.
>>
>> Agreed. They're drones with their brains in neutral. If the MSM says it,
>> they believe it. They never question the inconsistencies. I saw a montage of
>> MSM talking heads, in unison and all using the same terms, are saying that
>> Kamala Harris was "never the border czar," and that the Republicans "made it
>> up." Unfortunately for these liars, there's a Congressional resolution using
>> the term in reference to her and videos of Biden (and/or his handlers) using
>> that term. But the Woke won't worry about that... they just absorb the
>> latest bullshit from the MSM and carry on — not a thought in their empty
>> heads.
>
> It's almost as if a progressive's firmware is constantly being
> overwritten and the television media is the mechanism that updates the
> software into their brains. It must be a serious challenge for these
> people to write history papers if they're in university. They will have
> written one draft on Monday about their war with Eastasia only to have
> to write it again on Tuesday because they were always at war with
> Eurasia. Same thing on Thursday.

There's a lot about modern society that reminds of George Orwall's _1984_
and its Thought Police. _1984_ should be required reading for any Woke brain
recovery program. (That and quarantining them from the MSM's constant
brain-rot, lying propaganda.)

But I'm afraid it's too late for most of the moron Woke Left. Their brains
are too far gone.

--
[Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an
entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

On Tue, 6 Aug 2024 07:06:56 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> (I'd also be wary of the NY Times as well).

No shit. The NYT has done an excellent job of discrediting itself on
numerous topics.

> Sure a lotta paranoia in the US.

"Must be because I had the flu for Christmas
And I'm not feelin' up to par
It increases my paranoia
Like lookin' at my mirror and seein' a police car
But I'm not givin' in an inch to fear
'Cause I promised myself this year
I feel like I owe it to someone"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Lk2KHajp4Y

I don't know if it would be classified as paranoia in the clinical sense
where there is a sense of personal harm. Starting from when I was a young
adult, there was COINTELPRO, the Gulf of Tonkin lie, Nixon's bombing of
Cambodia, the Iran-Contra fiasco and so firth. Why would I have a rational
reason to believe the government does not lie outright, conceal facts, and
create false flag incidents with most of the media either actively
supporting the party line of failing to dig for the truth?

What cam I say? I'm an old hippie and the government and police are not
your friends.

On 2024-08-06, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Aug 2024 07:06:56 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> (I'd also be wary of the NY Times as well).
>
> No shit. The NYT has done an excellent job of discrediting itself on
> numerous topics.
>
>> Sure a lotta paranoia in the US.
>
> "Must be because I had the flu for Christmas
> And I'm not feelin' up to par
> It increases my paranoia
> Like lookin' at my mirror and seein' a police car
> But I'm not givin' in an inch to fear
> 'Cause I promised myself this year
> I feel like I owe it to someone"
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Lk2KHajp4Y
>
> I don't know if it would be classified as paranoia in the clinical sense
> where there is a sense of personal harm. Starting from when I was a young
> adult, there was COINTELPRO, the Gulf of Tonkin lie, Nixon's bombing of
> Cambodia, the Iran-Contra fiasco and so firth. Why would I have a rational
> reason to believe the government does not lie outright, conceal facts, and
> create false flag incidents with most of the media either actively
> supporting the party line of failing to dig for the truth?
>
> What cam I say? I'm an old hippie and the government and police are not
> your friends.

Remember when it was the Left (not the Woke Left) that used to "question
authority?" Now they demand strict compliance to every bureaucratic dictate,
every homogenized groupthink opinion and every idiot "science" "finding" —
like men can have babies and there are some 70+ "genders."

Seriously, Chris A., use your friggin' brain, if it hasn't already
atrophied beyond recovery.

--
[Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an
entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

On 2024-08-06 3:50 p.m., rbowman wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Aug 2024 07:06:56 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> (I'd also be wary of the NY Times as well).
>
> No shit. The NYT has done an excellent job of discrediting itself on
> numerous topics.
>
>> Sure a lotta paranoia in the US.
>
> "Must be because I had the flu for Christmas
> And I'm not feelin' up to par
> It increases my paranoia
> Like lookin' at my mirror and seein' a police car
> But I'm not givin' in an inch to fear
> 'Cause I promised myself this year
> I feel like I owe it to someone"
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Lk2KHajp4Y
>
> I don't know if it would be classified as paranoia in the clinical sense
> where there is a sense of personal harm. Starting from when I was a young
> adult, there was COINTELPRO, the Gulf of Tonkin lie, Nixon's bombing of
> Cambodia, the Iran-Contra fiasco and so firth. Why would I have a rational
> reason to believe the government does not lie outright, conceal facts, and
> create false flag incidents with most of the media either actively
> supporting the party line of failing to dig for the truth?
>
> What cam I say? I'm an old hippie and the government and police are not
> your friends.

I'm not a hippy but feel the same way.

--
CrudeSausage
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king
Progressives are brain-damaged demonic groomers

rbowman wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> What cam I say? I'm an old hippie and the government and police are not
> your friends.

Except when they bail your ass out during some natural disaster, build
interstate highways, ....

In other words, it's a mixed bag.

--
You will never know hunger.

On Wed, 7 Aug 2024 07:09:42 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> rbowman wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> What cam I say? I'm an old hippie and the government and police are not
>> your friends.
>
> Except when they bail your ass out during some natural disaster, build
> interstate highways, ....
>
> In other words, it's a mixed bag.

I don't remember the government bailing my ass out during a natural
disaster. I do recall it trying to send my ass to a unnatural disaster in
SE Asia.

I'm old enough to remember my family and I driving from upstate NY to
visit my brother in Seattle. It was 1952 and there were no interstates but
somehow we made it. It was an adventure where you actually went through
towns and cities. We took the northern route out, saw Yellowstone,
Rushmore, and other roadside attractions. Coming home we took the southern
route on the famous Route 66.

Now you get to grind the miles away at 80 mph, broken only by stops at
some plaza to take a leak and get gas. No roadside picnics along the side
of the road in the middle of nowhere. That's frowned on for I666 and you'd
probably get killed by a semi driven by a 'newcomer'.

I try not to think about my taxes contributing to Zelensky's bugout fun,
that war criminal in Israel, and to support companies that can't seem to
build planes or spacecrart that work. When my btother worked for Boeing
they designed and built the B-52. The damn things are still flying despite
a string of B-1, B-2, and B-3 failures.

Yay, progress.

Ahlstrom: [Society] is a mixed bag.

And if you're kind of sick of it, you might live
up in the mountains of Montana, like rBowman.

Re: You will never know hunger.

Pity. Hunger is the best seasoning.

On Sat, 17 Aug 2024 01:41:12 -0700 (Seattle), Relf wrote:

> Ahlstrom: [Society] is a mixed bag.
>
> And if you're kind of sick of it, you might live up in the mountains of
> Montana, like rBowman.

A million people in 147,000 square miles is just about right... I went for
a hike yesterday and saw 4 people in 3 hours. The last time I was back
east you almost needed traffic lights on the trails.