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* Ubuntu finally admits why their crap distro freezes so much: lack of technical aDFS
+* Re: Ubuntu finally admits why their crap distro freezes so much: lack of technicJoel
|`* Re: Ubuntu finally admits why their crap distro freezes so much: lack of technicDFS
| +- Re: Ubuntu finally admits why their crap distro freezes so much: lack of technicBorax Man
| `* Re: Ubuntu finally admits why their crap distro freezes so much: lack of technicCrudeSausage
|  `* Re: Ubuntu finally admits why their crap distro freezes so much: lack of technicRonB
|   `* Re: Ubuntu finally admits why their crap distro freezes so much: lack of technicCrudeSausage
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|    `- Re: Ubuntu finally admits why their crap distro freezes so much: lack of technicRonB
`* Re: Ubuntu finally admits why their crap distro freezes so much: lack of technicCrudeSausage
 `* Re: Ubuntu finally admits why their crap distro freezes so much: lack of technicJoel
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   `* Re: Ubuntu finally admits why their crap distro freezes so much: lack of technicJoel
    `* Re: Ubuntu finally admits why their crap distro freezes so much: lack of technicCrudeSausage
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     | `* The salty tears of a wintroll (was: Re: Ubuntu finally admits whyvallor
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     |  `* Re: The trite lies of a Linux loonDFS
     |   `* Re: The trite lies of a Linux loonvallor
     |    `* Re: The trite lies of a Linux looncandycanearter07
     |     +* Re: The trite lies of a Linux loonChris Ahlstrom
     |     |`* Re: The trite lies of a Linux loonrbowman
     |     | `- Re: The trite lies of a Linux loonChris Ahlstrom
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     |      `- Re: The trite lies of a Linux looncandycanearter07
     `* Re: Ubuntu finally admits why their crap distro freezes so much: lack of technicvallor
      +* Re: Ubuntu finally admits why their crap distro freezes so much: lack of technicCrudeSausage
      |`* Re: Ubuntu finally admits why their crap distro freezes so much: lack of techniccandycanearter07
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Subject: Re: Ubuntu finally admits why their crap distro freezes so much: lack of technical ability
From: candycanearter07
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Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2024 14:40 UTC
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From: candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid (candycanearter07)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Ubuntu finally admits why their crap distro freezes so much:
lack of technical ability
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CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote at 22:28 this Thursday (GMT):
> On 2024-07-18 6:01 p.m., vallor wrote:
>> On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 17:37:27 -0400, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote in
>> <CWfmO.46919$BFg.13924@fx13.iad>:
>>
>>> On 2024-07-18 4:47 p.m., Joel wrote:
>>>> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Mint works for me, with insignificant blips.
>>>>>
>>>>> But blips there are. What is your GPU?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> NVIDIA 1030.
>>>
>>> Using the Nouveau open-source, reverse-engineered driver or NVIDIA?
>>
>> https://developer.nvidia.com/blog/nvidia-transitions-fully-towards-open-source-gpu-kernel-modules/
>>
>> It. Is. Happening.
>
> That's fantastic news. This might actually resolve a ton of the issues
> people have had with NVIDIA hardware on Linux.

Certainly a good sign for Linux in general.
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Subject: Re: The trite lies of a Linux loon
From: candycanearter07
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From: candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid (candycanearter07)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: The trite lies of a Linux loon
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vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote at 00:12 this Friday (GMT):
> On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 20:04:52 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in
><6699ada1$0$1741$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>
>> On 7/18/2024 6:31 PM, vallor wrote:
>>
>>
>>> "Ever notice how fast Windows runs? Neither did I."
>>
>>
>> Where are these anti-Windows lies coming from?
>
> They are from the list of taglines from tart(1).
> $ apt-cache show tart
> [...]
>
> Description-en: versatile and feature-rich email signature generator
> TaRT (The Automatic Random Tagline) features include random taglines,
> optional daemon functionality, display of current date,
> custom layout of signature, and "special date" tagline text.
> The command line syntax is simple and well explained.
> TaRT is designed to be run as a stand-alone daemon, from crontab,
> or in your login script.
> _ _ _ _ _ _ _
>
> My sig generator is a perl script that grabs one at random from
> /etc/tart.tags.

Where do you install it? I can't find it on the Debian repos. Also, is
it compatible with slrn?
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Subject: Re: The trite lies of a Linux loon
From: Chris Ahlstrom
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candycanearter07 wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote at 00:12 this Friday (GMT):
>> On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 20:04:52 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in
>><6699ada1$0$1741$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>
>>> On 7/18/2024 6:31 PM, vallor wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Ever notice how fast Windows runs? Neither did I."
>>>
>>> Where are these anti-Windows lies coming from?
>>
>> They are from the list of taglines from tart(1).
>> $ apt-cache show tart
>> [...]
>>
>> Description-en: versatile and feature-rich email signature generator
>> TaRT (The Automatic Random Tagline) features include random taglines,
>> optional daemon functionality, display of current date,
>> custom layout of signature, and "special date" tagline text.
>> The command line syntax is simple and well explained.
>> TaRT is designed to be run as a stand-alone daemon, from crontab,
>> or in your login script.
>> _ _ _ _ _ _ _
>>
>> My sig generator is a perl script that grabs one at random from
>> /etc/tart.tags.
>
> Where do you install it? I can't find it on the Debian repos. Also, is
> it compatible with slrn?

I use the following in my .slrnrc:

set post_editor_command "fortune > ~/.config/personal/slrn/signature.rc ; vim
-f +%d '%s'"

Can't find tart in Arch's pacman. Also kind of "worried", no Arch
system upgrade to do in the last few days.

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Subject: Re: The trite lies of a Linux loon
From: rbowman
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On Fri, 19 Jul 2024 13:23:46 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> Can't find tart in Arch's pacman. Also kind of "worried", no Arch system
> upgrade to do in the last few days.

Switch to Fedora 40, KDE spin. I misses a couple of days and now it wants
to upgrade 246 packages abd install 8. I think most of the installs are
kernel 6.9.9.

Subject: Re: The trite lies of a Linux loon
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On Fri, 19 Jul 2024 14:40:03 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
<candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote in
<slrnv9kuge.4t7.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid>:

> vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote at 00:12 this Friday (GMT):
>> On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 20:04:52 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in
>><6699ada1$0$1741$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>
>>> On 7/18/2024 6:31 PM, vallor wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> "Ever notice how fast Windows runs? Neither did I."
>>>
>>>
>>> Where are these anti-Windows lies coming from?
>>
>> They are from the list of taglines from tart(1).
>> $ apt-cache show tart [...]
>>
>> Description-en: versatile and feature-rich email signature generator
>> TaRT (The Automatic Random Tagline) features include random taglines,
>> optional daemon functionality, display of current date,
>> custom layout of signature, and "special date" tagline text.
>> The command line syntax is simple and well explained.
>> TaRT is designed to be run as a stand-alone daemon, from crontab,
>> or in your login script.
>> _ _ _ _ _ _ _
>>
>> My sig generator is a perl script that grabs one at random from
>> /etc/tart.tags.
>
>
> Where do you install it? I can't find it on the Debian repos. Also, is
> it compatible with slrn?

It's in Ubuntu, and it writes .sig files. If slrn uses .sig files,
then it should work with it.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/linuxtart/

Here's all the info for it:

$ apt-cache show tart
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Version: 3.10-1build1
Priority: optional
Section: universe/mail
Origin: Ubuntu
Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com>
Original-Maintainer: Colin Tuckley <colint@debian.org>
Bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
Installed-Size: 154
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Homepage: http://sourceforge.net/projects/linuxtart/
Description-en: versatile and feature-rich email signature generator
TaRT (The Automatic Random Tagline) features include random taglines,
optional daemon functionality, display of current date,
custom layout of signature, and "special date" tagline text.
The command line syntax is simple and well explained.
TaRT is designed to be run as a stand-alone daemon, from crontab,
or in your login script.
Description-md5: 45aa42dd3f5968a94485d14c99ef0d99

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Subject: Re: Ubuntu finally admits why their crap distro freezes so much: lack of technical ability
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On 2024-07-19 10:40 a.m., candycanearter07 wrote:
> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote at 22:28 this Thursday (GMT):
>> On 2024-07-18 6:01 p.m., vallor wrote:
>>> On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 17:37:27 -0400, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote in
>>> <CWfmO.46919$BFg.13924@fx13.iad>:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-07-18 4:47 p.m., Joel wrote:
>>>>> CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mint works for me, with insignificant blips.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But blips there are. What is your GPU?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> NVIDIA 1030.
>>>>
>>>> Using the Nouveau open-source, reverse-engineered driver or NVIDIA?
>>>
>>> https://developer.nvidia.com/blog/nvidia-transitions-fully-towards-open-source-gpu-kernel-modules/
>>>
>>> It. Is. Happening.
>>
>> That's fantastic news. This might actually resolve a ton of the issues
>> people have had with NVIDIA hardware on Linux.
>
>
> Certainly a good sign for Linux in general.

If the community manages to do with the open-source NVIDIA driver what
they did with the AMD one, Linux users are in for a treat. As it is,
AMD-equipped laptops seem to get better gaming performance through Wine
in Linux than they do in Windows.

--
CrudeSausage
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king
Progressives are brain-damaged savages

Subject: Re: The trite lies of a Linux loon
From: Chris Ahlstrom
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From: OFeem1987@teleworm.us (Chris Ahlstrom)
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Subject: Re: The trite lies of a Linux loon
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rbowman wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Fri, 19 Jul 2024 13:23:46 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> Can't find tart in Arch's pacman. Also kind of "worried", no Arch system
>> upgrade to do in the last few days.
>
> Switch to Fedora 40, KDE spin. I misses a couple of days and now it wants
> to upgrade 246 packages abd install 8. I think most of the installs are
> kernel 6.9.9.

Nah, I prefer Arch. I used Fedora a few years ago. It was decent.
Centos was good, too (and allowed by government IT).

246 packages isn't much. A couple a minutes.

--
If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you.
This is the principal difference between a dog and a man.
-- Mark Twain, "Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar"

Subject: Re: The trite lies of a Linux loon
From: candycanearter07
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Subject: Re: The trite lies of a Linux loon
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vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote at 21:02 this Friday (GMT):
> On Fri, 19 Jul 2024 14:40:03 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07
><candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote in
><slrnv9kuge.4t7.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid>:
>
>> vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote at 00:12 this Friday (GMT):
>>> On Thu, 18 Jul 2024 20:04:52 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in
>>><6699ada1$0$1741$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>
>>>> On 7/18/2024 6:31 PM, vallor wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> "Ever notice how fast Windows runs? Neither did I."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Where are these anti-Windows lies coming from?
>>>
>>> They are from the list of taglines from tart(1).
>>> $ apt-cache show tart [...]
>>>
>>> Description-en: versatile and feature-rich email signature generator
>>> TaRT (The Automatic Random Tagline) features include random taglines,
>>> optional daemon functionality, display of current date,
>>> custom layout of signature, and "special date" tagline text.
>>> The command line syntax is simple and well explained.
>>> TaRT is designed to be run as a stand-alone daemon, from crontab,
>>> or in your login script.
>>> _ _ _ _ _ _ _
>>>
>>> My sig generator is a perl script that grabs one at random from
>>> /etc/tart.tags.
>>
>>
>> Where do you install it? I can't find it on the Debian repos. Also, is
>> it compatible with slrn?
>
> It's in Ubuntu, and it writes .sig files. If slrn uses .sig files,
> then it should work with it.
>
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/linuxtart/
[snip]

No idea if it uses sig files or not.
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