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`* Re: "Better Discredited than Dead"Governor Swill
 `- Re: "Better Discredited than Dead"Lil dwarf Rudey

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Subject: "Better Discredited than Dead"
From: Found Elsewhere
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Subject: "Better Discredited than Dead"
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Better Discredited than Dead
July 26, 2024
https://voxday.net/2024/07/26/better-discredited-than-dead/

Remember this guy and his untimely demise [1] the next time you feel inclined
to mock someone for their non-mainstream opinions. He obviously would have
been much better off if, instead of mocking Aaron Rodgers for his skepticism,
he had listened to the quarterback's well-informed advice.

> Matt Driscoll, a 43-year-old columnist and opinion editor for The News
> Tribune (TNT), died unexpectedly at his Tacoma home this Sunday. Driscoll
> reportedly suffered an apparent medical emergency from which he could not
> be revived. The official cause of death is yet to be determined, according
> to TNT.
>
> It was reported that he had received a COVID-19 vaccination.
>
> In recent times, Driscoll had been vocal about NFL star Aaron Rodgers'
> controversial views on COVID-19 vaccines. He accused Rodgers of engaging
> in "performance art" after the latter warned people about potential side
> effects of mRNA vaccines.
>
> Rogers "repeated popular conspiracy theories about Covid vaccines, cited a
> number of discredited sources and claimed he was being 'cancelled' and
> 'censored' for 'doing his own research.'" I swear to god: It's like
> performance art at this point. — Matt Driscoll (@mattsdriscoll) January
> 11, 2024

It's as dangerous to believe your own rhetoric as it is to smoke your own
supply. In fact, it's considerably more dangerous. No doubt Driscoll felt
very smug about rejecting all those "discredited sources" right up to the
moment that the vaxx took him out.

[1]:
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/07/journalist-who-criticized-aaron-rodgers-his-repeated-conspiracy/

Subject: Re: "Better Discredited than Dead"
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On Fri, 26 Jul 2024 21:13:30 -0400, Found Elsewhere <posts@everywhere.net> wrote:

>Better Discredited than Dead
>July 26, 2024
>https://voxday.net/2024/07/26/better-discredited-than-dead/
>
>Remember this guy and his untimely demise [1] the next time you feel inclined
>to mock someone for their non-mainstream opinions. He obviously would have
>been much better off if, instead of mocking Aaron Rodgers for his skepticism,
>he had listened to the quarterback's well-informed advice.
>
> > Matt Driscoll, a 43-year-old columnist and opinion editor for The News
> > Tribune (TNT), died unexpectedly at his Tacoma home this Sunday. Driscoll
> > reportedly suffered an apparent medical emergency from which he could not
> > be revived. The official cause of death is yet to be determined, according
> > to TNT.
> >
> > It was reported that he had received a COVID-19 vaccination.
> >
> > In recent times, Driscoll had been vocal about NFL star Aaron Rodgers'
> > controversial views on COVID-19 vaccines. He accused Rodgers of engaging
> > in "performance art" after the latter warned people about potential side
> > effects of mRNA vaccines.
> >
> > Rogers "repeated popular conspiracy theories about Covid vaccines, cited a
> > number of discredited sources and claimed he was being 'cancelled' and
> > 'censored' for 'doing his own research.'" I swear to god: It's like
> > performance art at this point. — Matt Driscoll (@mattsdriscoll) January
> > 11, 2024
>
>It's as dangerous to believe your own rhetoric as it is to smoke your own
>supply. In fact, it's considerably more dangerous. No doubt Driscoll felt
>very smug about rejecting all those "discredited sources" right up to the
>moment that the vaxx took him out.

Perhaps you shouldn't read what isn't there.

What part of "An official cause of death has yet to be determined," did you not
understand?

>[1]:
>https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/07/journalist-who-criticized-aaron-rodgers-his-repeated-conspiracy/

There is nothing in the article claiming the shot being the cause of death. It is hinted
in true yellow-journalism style but perhaps GP is being a bit more circumspect in their
reporting. I wonder why?

#nevertrump
NP: Steely Dan - Time Out Of Mind

Subject: Re: "Better Discredited than Dead"
From: Lil dwarf Rudey
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Governor Swill wrote:
> I wonder why?

Governor Swill /Rudy Canoza/Lou Bricano/J Carlson/Michael A Terrell and
a dozen other socks wrote:

Multiple death threats against Trump:
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Oh poor me I got shot at ...

Swill
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Cheer up, maybe someone else will try.

Swill

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> No. I am a patriotic American who wants the country and its people to
thrive. Getting rid of Trump permanently
> is an important step to getting there.

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That constitutes a DEATH THREAT against a former President, Rudey:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/871
18 U.S. Code § 871 - Threats against President and successors to the
Presidency
U.S. Code
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(a)Whoever knowingly and willfully deposits for conveyance in the mail
or for a delivery from any post office or by any letter carrier any
letter, paper, writing, print, missive, or document containing any
threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon
the President of the United States, the President-elect, the Vice
President or other officer next in the order of succession to the office
of President of the United States, or the Vice President-elect, or
knowingly and willfully otherwise makes any such threat against the
President, President-elect, Vice President or other officer next in the
order of succession to the office of President, or Vice President-elect,
shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years,
or both.
(b)The terms “President-elect” and “Vice President-elect” as used in
this section shall mean such persons as are the apparent successful
candidates for the offices of President and Vice President,
respectively, as ascertained from the results of the general elections
held to determine the electors of President and Vice President in
accordance with title 3, United States Code, sections 1 and 2. The
phrase “other officer next in the order of succession to the office of
President” as used in this section shall mean the person next in the
order of succession to act as President in accordance with title 3,
United States Code, sections 19 and 20.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 740; June 1, 1955, ch. 115, § 1, 69
Stat. 80; Pub. L. 87–829, § 1, Oct. 15, 1962, 76 Stat. 956; Pub. L.
97–297, § 2, Oct. 12, 1982, 96 Stat. 1318; Pub. L. 103–322, title
XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

9-65.200 - Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency; Threats Against Former Presidents; and Certain Other Secret
Service Protectees
The Counterterrorism Section of the National Security Division has
supervisory authority over 18 U.S.C. §§ 871 and 879 cases. As great
caution must be taken in matters relating to the security of the persons
protected by 18 U.S.C. § 871, United States Attorneys are encouraged to
consult with the Counterterrorism Section (CTS) of the National Security
Division when they have doubts on the prosecutive merit of a case. For
the same reason, dismissal of complaints under 18 U.S.C. § 871, when the
defendant is in custody under the Mental Incompetency Statutes (18
U.S.C. §§ 4244, 4246), requires approval from CTS. In other cases,
United States Attorneys must consult prior to dismissing a count
involving, or entering into any sentence commitment or other case
settlement involving a § 871 charge.

https://www.secretservice.gov/newsroom/releases/2024/01/phoenix-man-arrested-making-online-death-threats-against-president-and

PHOENIX –David Michael Hanson, 41, of Phoenix, was arrested on Wednesday
for making online threats against the President and Vice-President.
Hanson was charged by Federal criminal complaint on Tuesday with five
counts of Threats Against the President and Successors to the Presidency
and five counts of Interstate Communication of Threats.

The complaint alleges that in November and December of 2023, while
living in Arizona, Hanson used a social media platform to post threats
to murder the President and Vice President of the United States. On
November 19, 2023, Hanson posted online a series of threatening
statements including one that stated, “#joeAndKamala I’m asking you to
resign on Monday your alternative is death brutally murdered.” After the
U.S. Secret Service spoke to Hanson and warned him that it was a Federal
crime to post such threats, on December 23, 2023, Hanson posted another
series of similar threats aimed at the President and Vice-President.

Each count of Threats Against the President and Successors to the
Presidency carries a maximum sentence of five years in prison, a fine of
up to $250,000, and up to three years of supervised release. Each count
of Interstate Communication of Threats carries a maximum sentence of
five years in prison, a fine of up to $250,000, and up to three years of
supervised release.

A complaint is simply a method by which a person is charged with
criminal activity and raises no inference of guilt. An individual is
presumed innocent until evidence is presented to a jury that establishes
guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.


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