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Subject: Threat To Democracy? Look No Further Than The Rethuglican Traitors.
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Subject: Threat To Democracy? Look No Further Than The Rethuglican Traitors.
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>The democrats love to spew the "Trump is a threat to democracy" crap yet
>look who is really a threat to democracy.
>It's the democrats themselves.
>

Trump is a traitor. I wonder if they'll bring back hanging?

Subject: Re: Threat To Democracy? Look No Further Than The Rethuglican Traitors.
From: Lawrence D'Oliv
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Subject: Re: Threat To Democracy? Look No Further Than The Rethuglican
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I hear some people insist that the USA is not supposed to be a
“democracy”, it’s supposed to be some kind of “Constitutional Republic”.

Subject: Re: Threat To Democracy? Look No Further Than The Rethuglican Traitors.
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Subject: Re: Threat To Democracy? Look No Further Than The Rethuglican
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On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 03:06:59 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
<ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in <v7kicj$fnrh$1@dont-email.me>:

> I hear some people insist that the USA is not supposed to be a
> “democracy”, it’s supposed to be some kind of “Constitutional Republic”.

_Democratic_ republic.

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Subject: Re: Threat To Democracy? Look No Further Than The Rethuglican Traitors.
From: Lawrence D'Oliv
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Subject: Re: Threat To Democracy? Look No Further Than The Rethuglican
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On 22 Jul 2024 03:31:50 GMT, vallor wrote:

> On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 03:06:59 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
> <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in <v7kicj$fnrh$1@dont-email.me>:
>
>> I hear some people insist that the USA is not supposed to be a
>> “democracy”, it’s supposed to be some kind of “Constitutional
>> Republic”.
>
> _Democratic_ republic.

So you disagree?

But the US doesn’t score all that well on democratic norms either: like
independence of electoral commissions, freedom of the press, that kind of
thing.

Subject: Re: Threat To Democracy? Look No Further Than The Rethuglican Traitors.
From: rbowman
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Subject: Re: Threat To Democracy? Look No Further Than The Rethuglican
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On 22 Jul 2024 03:31:50 GMT, vallor wrote:

> On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 03:06:59 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
> <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in <v7kicj$fnrh$1@dont-email.me>:
>
>> I hear some people insist that the USA is not supposed to be a
>> “democracy”, it’s supposed to be some kind of “Constitutional
>> Republic”.
>
> _Democratic_ republic.

Sort of like the DPRK...

https://www.wetheveterans.us/news-and-events/is-the-us-a-democracy-its-
more-complicated-than-you-thought

The words plutocracy and oligarchy come to mind. This inadvertently
surfaced during the recent debacle with the cries of 'OMG! The rich donors
are losing faith in our figurehead and slamming their checkbooks closed!"

Subject: Re: Threat To Democracy? Look No Further Than The Rethuglican Traitors.
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Subject: Re: Threat To Democracy? Look No Further Than The Rethuglican
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On 22 Jul 2024 04:34:02 GMT, rbowman wrote:

> The words plutocracy and oligarchy come to mind.

Here’s another word: “SuperPAC”.

And another: “gerrymandering”.

Oh, and another: “Electoral College”.

Subject: Re: Threat To Democracy? Look No Further Than The Rethuglican Traitors.
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On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 06:06:27 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

> On 22 Jul 2024 04:34:02 GMT, rbowman wrote:
>
>> The words plutocracy and oligarchy come to mind.
>
> Here’s another word: “SuperPAC”.
>
> And another: “gerrymandering”.
>
> Oh, and another: “Electoral College”.

Try 'the concept did not scale well.' It has been downhill since the
Constitutional Convention created The United States out of the united
states. It was supposed to be a touch-up of the Articles of Confederation
not a ground up rewrite by a passel of lawyers and rich merchants.

“But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much
is certain - that it has either authorized such a government as we have
had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case, it is unfit to
exist.”

"A man is no less a slave because he is allowed to choose a new master
once in a term of years."

Lysander Spooner

Subject: You can't pick _our_ president.
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Re: America, the constitutional federal republic.

DistroMan: _Democratic_ republic.

You're free to pick _your_ distro
but you can't pick _our_ president.

P.S. Bill i135 Seattle, passed in 2023:
-- creates a new social housing development authority to oversee the
construction and management of affordable housing units.

Subject: Re: Threat To Democracy? Look No Further Than The Democrat Hypocrites.
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On 2024-07-22, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
> I hear some people insist that the USA is not supposed to be a
> “democracy”, it’s supposed to be some kind of “Constitutional Republic”.

Yep. And it's the hypocritical Democrats who keep yammering on about Trump's
"threat to democracy." Which is what the the thread title you mangled
facetiously alluded to. Meanwhile the Democrats ignore Biden's 3904 delegate
to 45 delegate win in the primaries and force him out... "democratically" no
doubt. And why did they do this? Was it because they finally acknowledged
the fact that's been obvious to any thinking person for years, that Biden
was senile? If so, if he's unfit to run for president, why is he fit to BE
the president? But that's not why they shoved him out "democratically," they
did it because they realized he couldn't win. So much for "every vote
counting," eh?

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Subject: Re: Threat To Democracy? Look No Further Than The Rethuglican Traitors.
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On 2024-07-22, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
> On 22 Jul 2024 03:31:50 GMT, vallor wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 03:06:59 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro
>> <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote in <v7kicj$fnrh$1@dont-email.me>:
>>
>>> I hear some people insist that the USA is not supposed to be a
>>> “democracy”, it’s supposed to be some kind of “Constitutional
>>> Republic”.
>>
>> _Democratic_ republic.
>
> So you disagree?
>
> But the US doesn’t score all that well on democratic norms either: like
> independence of electoral commissions, freedom of the press, that kind of
> thing.

That's because our politicians have spent years trying to blot out our
Constitutional rights.

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entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

Subject: Re: Threat To Democracy? Look No Further Than The Rethuglican Traitors.
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On 2024-07-22, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
> On 22 Jul 2024 04:34:02 GMT, rbowman wrote:
>
>> The words plutocracy and oligarchy come to mind.
>
> Here’s another word: “SuperPAC”.
>
> And another: “gerrymandering”.
>
> Oh, and another: “Electoral College”.

The Electoral College is not inconsistent with a Republic. It's function is
to keep our country from being run by mob rule.

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entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

Subject: Re: Threat To Democracy? Look No Further Than The Rethuglican Traitors.
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On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 20:01:43 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

> That's because our politicians have spent years trying to blot out our
> Constitutional rights.

Centuries. John Adams' Sedition Act attacked the First Amendment so the
rosy optimism lasted until the second president. The Marshall court, led
by the Adams appointee, set their sights on the Tenth Amendment.

Subject: Re: Threat To Democracy? Look No Further Than The Democrat Hypocrites.
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On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 20:00:28 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

> Yep. And it's the hypocritical Democrats who keep yammering on about
> Trump's "threat to democracy." Which is what the the thread title you
> mangled facetiously alluded to. Meanwhile the Democrats ignore Biden's
> 3904 delegate to 45 delegate win in the primaries and force him out...
> "democratically" no doubt.

Bernie has company now.

Subject: There's no inflation, assuming you don't need housing.
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Max Headroom for President, 2024.

2021 Missoula, the price of homes increased by 28.6 %, year over year;
In 2022, it was 15.5 %; 5.8 % in 2023.

So there's no inflation, assuming you don't need housing.

Last year, Seattle passed i135 so that "tech bros" (i.e. "households")
earning 121 thousand $/year or less ( in 2022 Dollars ) won't have to
spend more than 30 % of their income on rent.

Subject: Re: Threat To Democracy? Look No Further Than The Rethuglican Traitors.
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On 2024-07-22, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 20:01:43 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>
>> That's because our politicians have spent years trying to blot out our
>> Constitutional rights.
>
> Centuries. John Adams' Sedition Act attacked the First Amendment so the
> rosy optimism lasted until the second president. The Marshall court, led
> by the Adams appointee, set their sights on the Tenth Amendment.

Be as that may, we still had relative freedom in the U.S. until the last few
decades.

--
[Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an
entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

Subject: Re: Threat To Democracy? Look No Further Than The Democrat Hypocrites.
From: RonB
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On 2024-07-22, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Jul 2024 20:00:28 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:
>
>> Yep. And it's the hypocritical Democrats who keep yammering on about
>> Trump's "threat to democracy." Which is what the the thread title you
>> mangled facetiously alluded to. Meanwhile the Democrats ignore Biden's
>> 3904 delegate to 45 delegate win in the primaries and force him out...
>> "democratically" no doubt.
>
> Bernie has company now.

Yep.

--
[Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an
entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

Subject: Re: Threat To Democracy? Look No Further Than The Rethuglican Traitors.
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On 22 Jul 2024 07:25:51 GMT, rbowman wrote:

> Try 'the concept did not scale well.'

Try “the original ideology has not adapted to changing circumstances”.
Other countries manage to do this “democracy” thing better than you; why
not learn from them?

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