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Subject: Hey Distro Lackeys!
From: Diego Garcia
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Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2024 19:54 UTC

From: dg@chaos.rocks (Diego Garcia)
Subject: Hey Distro Lackeys!
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Hey distro lackeys! (There's nothing else beside lackeys on this NG.)

Whatcha doin' with your GNU/Linux machines? (Other than binging
on Netflix and being data raped by Amazon?)

On my inimitable LFS/Gentoo hybrid, I am currently, as we speak, making
another backup of my precious files to a brand-spanking-new 4TB USB drive.

These files are also backed up on 25GB BluRay optical disks, only possible on
GNUI/Linux, but the more fucking backups the better.

Shoot! I have tens of thousands of books and maybe even more music
titles and these critical babies have to be preserved.

What has been my investment in this mother lode?

How does one spell "zero?"

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

On this Fourth of July weekend remember that information freedom
is just as important as information freedom.

All those who disagree just don't know how. It's just sour grapes all over again.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

GNU/Linux: Freedom for the bold.

Microslop Winblows: Cheap comfort for idiots.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

Subject: Re: Hey Distro Lackeys!
From: Joel
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Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2024 20:40 UTC
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Diego Garcia <dg@chaos.rocks> wrote:

>Hey distro lackeys! (There's nothing else beside lackeys on this NG.)
>
>Whatcha doin' with your GNU/Linux machines? (Other than binging
>on Netflix and being data raped by Amazon?)
>
>On my inimitable LFS/Gentoo hybrid, I am currently, as we speak, making
>another backup of my precious files to a brand-spanking-new 4TB USB drive.
>
>These files are also backed up on 25GB BluRay optical disks, only possible on
>GNUI/Linux, but the more fucking backups the better.
>
>Shoot! I have tens of thousands of books and maybe even more music
>titles and these critical babies have to be preserved.
>
>What has been my investment in this mother lode?
>
>How does one spell "zero?"
>
>Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
>
>On this Fourth of July weekend remember that information freedom
>is just as important as information freedom.
>
>All those who disagree just don't know how. It's just sour grapes all over again.
>
>Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
>
>GNU/Linux: Freedom for the bold.
>
>Microslop Winblows: Cheap comfort for idiots.
>
>Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

So you pirated a bunch of media, woohoo. I still have my pirated
music, but I haven't added to it in a while. I moved on. You should
consider moving on, too, your lameness keeps you stuck with your blank
desktop, your lack of a taskbar or other GUI collector of processes,
like a normal fucking person would have. You're just a doofus.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Subject: Re: Hey Distro Lackeys!
From: Lester Thorpe
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From: lt@gnu.rocks (Lester Thorpe)
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On Fri, 05 Jul 2024 19:54:12 +0000, Diego Garcia wrote:

>
> On this Fourth of July weekend remember that information freedom
> is just as important as information freedom.
>

Whoops! That last bit should be "political freedom."

"info freedom as important as political freedom."

But the fucking distro lackey, who can't even pick the
dingle berries off his own ass, will be as clueless as
ever.

Subject: Re: Hey Distro Lackeys!
From: %
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Lester Thorpe wrote:
> On Fri, 05 Jul 2024 19:54:12 +0000, Diego Garcia wrote:
>
>>
>> On this Fourth of July weekend remember that information freedom
>> is just as important as information freedom.
>>
>
> Whoops! That last bit should be "political freedom."
>
> "info freedom as important as political freedom."
>
> But the fucking distro lackey, who can't even pick the
> dingle berries off his own ass, will be as clueless as
> ever.
>
>
>
and this has what to do with linux advocacy exactly

Subject: Re: Hey Distro Lackeys!
From: Joel
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% <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:
>Lester Thorpe wrote:
>> On Fri, 05 Jul 2024 19:54:12 +0000, Diego Garcia wrote:
>>
>>> On this Fourth of July weekend remember that information freedom
>>> is just as important as information freedom.
>>
>> Whoops! That last bit should be "political freedom."
>>
>> "info freedom as important as political freedom."
>>
>> But the fucking distro lackey, who can't even pick the
>> dingle berries off his own ass, will be as clueless as
>> ever.
>>
>and this has what to do with linux advocacy exactly

He advocates retardation.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

From: lt@gnu.rocks (Lester Thorpe)
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On Fri, 5 Jul 2024 14:37:00 -0700, % wrote:

>>
>> But the fucking distro lackey, who can't even pick the
>> dingle berries off his own ass, will be as clueless as
>> ever.
>>
>>
>>
> and this has what to do with linux advocacy exactly
>

Many thanks for proving the point, clueless.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

Subject: Re: Hey Distro Lackeys!
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Lester Thorpe wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Jul 2024 14:37:00 -0700, % wrote:
>
>>>
>>> But the fucking distro lackey, who can't even pick the
>>> dingle berries off his own ass, will be as clueless as
>>> ever.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> and this has what to do with linux advocacy exactly
>>
>
> Many thanks for proving the point, clueless.
>
> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
>
>
and this has what to do with linux advocacy exactly

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On Fri, 5 Jul 2024 14:37:00 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
<l7WdnScXe_Xh-hX7nZ2dnZfqnPgAAAAA@giganews.com>:

> Lester Thorpe wrote:
>> On Fri, 05 Jul 2024 19:54:12 +0000, Diego Garcia wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On this Fourth of July weekend remember that information freedom
>>> is just as important as information freedom.
>>>
>>
>> Whoops! That last bit should be "political freedom."
>>
>> "info freedom as important as political freedom."
>>
>> But the fucking distro lackey, who can't even pick the
>> dingle berries off his own ass, will be as clueless as
>> ever.
>>
>>
>>
> and this has what to do with linux advocacy exactly

It's anti-Linux advocacy.

He's right about one thing, though: we're all "distro-lackeys" here,
including him. (_Especially_ him.)

--
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">From the Department of Redundancy Dept."

Subject: Re: Hey Distro Lackeys!
From: Stéphane CARPENTIER
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Le 05-07-2024, Diego Garcia <dg@chaos.rocks> a écrit :
> (There's nothing else beside lackeys on this NG.)

Depending on your definition, you are one of them.

> Whatcha doin' with your GNU/Linux machines? (Other than binging
> on Netflix and being data raped by Amazon?)

You wouldn't be able to understand my answer.

> On my inimitable LFS/Gentoo hybrid,

Which mean you were unable to install Gentoo, so you call hybrid your
failed attempts to solve the issues.

In short, it just mean you have nothing usable.

> I am currently, as we speak, making
> another backup of my precious files to a brand-spanking-new 4TB USB drive.

I'd like to find out how you would manage to use them the day you'll
need them. Because rsync is good to save data like pictures, videos or
song. But to save dotfiles, it's not that efficient.

> These files are also backed up on 25GB BluRay optical disks,

OK, so that's mean your 4TB USB drive is oversized by at least 3.9TB.
That's stupid. For the same price, a smaller drive would have been
better.

> only possible on
> GNUI/Linux, but the more fucking backups the better.

It's not enough to have backups if you don't know what to do with them.

> Shoot! I have tens of thousands of books and maybe even more music
> titles and these critical babies have to be preserved.

On a 25GB storage? You are a joke.

> What has been my investment in this mother lode?
>
> How does one spell "zero?"

OK, that mean you found your storage and they're not brand new. It's a
serious mistake to save precious files on untrusty storage.

> On this Fourth of July weekend remember that information freedom
> is just as important as information freedom.

You'll really find out how right you are the day you'll loose
everything.

--
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Le 05-07-2024, Lester Thorpe <lt@gnu.rocks> a écrit :
> On Fri, 05 Jul 2024 19:54:12 +0000, Diego Garcia wrote:
>
>>
>> On this Fourth of July weekend remember that information freedom
>> is just as important as information freedom.
>>
>
> Whoops! That last bit should be "political freedom."
>
> "info freedom as important as political freedom."
>
> But the fucking distro lackey, who can't even pick the
> dingle berries off his own ass, will be as clueless as
> ever.

Let say I know how to manage my precious files. You'll find out soon
enough that you don't: it's obvious from your message.

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Subject: Re: Hey Distro Lackeys!
From: Stéphane CARPENTIER
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Le 05-07-2024, % <pursent100@gmail.com> a écrit :
> Lester Thorpe wrote:
>> On Fri, 05 Jul 2024 19:54:12 +0000, Diego Garcia wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On this Fourth of July weekend remember that information freedom
>>> is just as important as information freedom.
>>>
>>
>> Whoops! That last bit should be "political freedom."
>>
>> "info freedom as important as political freedom."
>>
>> But the fucking distro lackey, who can't even pick the
>> dingle berries off his own ass, will be as clueless as
>> ever.
>>
>>
>>
> and this has what to do with linux advocacy exactly

On Linux, you configure your system with dotfiles. So, it's easy to
manage them. On Windows, you need a mouse to configure your system. So
it's more difficult to manage. For example, at work, each time I had a
new computer, I had to find out the way to display the extensions the
fucking retard Microsoft designers decide they are better hidden. And
other defaults I didn't like. With Linux, it's really easy to manage
more than just that.

And, by the way, his message is more related to linux advocacy than the
other garbage about religion and politic in the other threads.

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Subject: Re: Hey Distro Lackeys!
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Le 05-07-2024, % <pursent100@gmail.com> a écrit :
> Lester Thorpe wrote:
>> On Fri, 5 Jul 2024 14:37:00 -0700, % wrote:
>>
>>> and this has what to do with linux advocacy exactly
>>>
>>
>> Many thanks for proving the point, clueless.
>>
>> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
> and this has what to do with linux advocacy exactly

Unlike you who can only speak garbage about political and religious
crap, he's almost always related to Linux.

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Subject: Re: Hey Distro Lackeys!
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Le 05-07-2024, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> a écrit :
> On Fri, 5 Jul 2024 14:37:00 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
><l7WdnScXe_Xh-hX7nZ2dnZfqnPgAAAAA@giganews.com>:
>
>> Lester Thorpe wrote:
>>> On Fri, 05 Jul 2024 19:54:12 +0000, Diego Garcia wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On this Fourth of July weekend remember that information freedom
>>>> is just as important as information freedom.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Whoops! That last bit should be "political freedom."
>>>
>>> "info freedom as important as political freedom."
>>>
>>> But the fucking distro lackey, who can't even pick the
>>> dingle berries off his own ass, will be as clueless as
>>> ever.
>>>
>> and this has what to do with linux advocacy exactly
>
> It's anti-Linux advocacy.

Of course, and it's the purpose of cola, too.

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Subject: Re: Hey Distro Lackeys!
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On 7/5/2024 3:54 PM, Lameass Larry Piet wrote:

> On this Fourth of July weekend remember that information freedom
> is just as important as information freedom.

Good one, Lameass!

Subject: Re: Hey Distro Lackeys!
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Diego Garcia <dg@chaos.rocks> wrote at 19:54 this Friday (GMT):
> Hey distro lackeys! (There's nothing else beside lackeys on this NG.)
>
> Whatcha doin' with your GNU/Linux machines? (Other than binging
> on Netflix and being data raped by Amazon?)
>
> On my inimitable LFS/Gentoo hybrid, I am currently, as we speak, making
> another backup of my precious files to a brand-spanking-new 4TB USB drive.
>
> These files are also backed up on 25GB BluRay optical disks, only possible on
> GNUI/Linux, but the more fucking backups the better.
>
> Shoot! I have tens of thousands of books and maybe even more music
> titles and these critical babies have to be preserved.
>
> What has been my investment in this mother lode?
>
> How does one spell "zero?"
>
> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
>
> On this Fourth of July weekend remember that information freedom
> is just as important as information freedom.
>
> All those who disagree just don't know how. It's just sour grapes all over again.
>
> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
>
> GNU/Linux: Freedom for the bold.
>
> Microslop Winblows: Cheap comfort for idiots.
>
> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

Drawing a ton. (krita and assprite)
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Subject: Re: Hey Distro Lackeys!
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Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote at 09:19 this Saturday (GMT):
> Le 05-07-2024, % <pursent100@gmail.com> a écrit :
>> Lester Thorpe wrote:
>>> On Fri, 05 Jul 2024 19:54:12 +0000, Diego Garcia wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On this Fourth of July weekend remember that information freedom
>>>> is just as important as information freedom.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Whoops! That last bit should be "political freedom."
>>>
>>> "info freedom as important as political freedom."
>>>
>>> But the fucking distro lackey, who can't even pick the
>>> dingle berries off his own ass, will be as clueless as
>>> ever.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> and this has what to do with linux advocacy exactly
>
> On Linux, you configure your system with dotfiles. So, it's easy to
> manage them. On Windows, you need a mouse to configure your system. So
> it's more difficult to manage. For example, at work, each time I had a
> new computer, I had to find out the way to display the extensions the
> fucking retard Microsoft designers decide they are better hidden. And
> other defaults I didn't like. With Linux, it's really easy to manage
> more than just that.

I always thought they hid it so that people don't ""break their files""
by messing with it, since they can't read magic numbers for some reason.

> And, by the way, his message is more related to linux advocacy than the
> other garbage about religion and politic in the other threads.

technically yea
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Subject: Re: Hey Distro Lackeys!
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On 06 Jul 2024 09:19:05 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:

>
> On Linux, you configure your system with dotfiles. So, it's easy to
> manage them. On Windows, you need a mouse to configure your system. So
> it's more difficult to manage. For example, at work, each time I had a
> new computer, I had to find out the way to display the extensions the
> fucking retard Microsoft designers decide they are better hidden. And
> other defaults I didn't like. With Linux, it's really easy to manage
> more than just that.
>

Text editors on GNU/Linux that use the GTK+ toolkit will not display
"hidden files" by default. I suppose that "hidden files" are dotfiles
but there could be other types of which I am unaware.

I believe that Qt/KDE is the same.

This is a design decision of the developers to make the GNU/Linux
desktop more like Microslop.

Furthermore, that bastard-asshole Lennart Poettering and his systemd
cohorts want to centralize all GNU/Linux config files:

https://specifications.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-latest.html

The document reads like a dictatorial proclamation as if Poettering
is the self-proclaimed King of Linux.

We all should say "Fuck You!" to Poettering, GNOME, freedesktop.org, etc.
Keep your stinking, fucking hands off my system!

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Le 06-07-2024, candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> a écrit :
> Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote at 09:19 this Saturday (GMT):
>>
>> On Linux, you configure your system with dotfiles. So, it's easy to
>> manage them. On Windows, you need a mouse to configure your system. So
>> it's more difficult to manage. For example, at work, each time I had a
>> new computer, I had to find out the way to display the extensions the
>> fucking retard Microsoft designers decide they are better hidden. And
>> other defaults I didn't like. With Linux, it's really easy to manage
>> more than just that.
>
> I always thought they hid it so that people don't ""break their files""
> by messing with it, since they can't read magic numbers for some reason.

It's stupid because when it's hidden, it's more difficult to manage. For
example "toto.tar.gz" will be displayed "toto.tar". There are lot of
other examples with files with a wrong extension or with files with
unknown extensions which become very difficult to change to help the
system.

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Le 06-07-2024, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> a écrit :
> On 06 Jul 2024 09:19:05 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>
>>
>> On Linux, you configure your system with dotfiles. So, it's easy to
>> manage them. On Windows, you need a mouse to configure your system. So
>> it's more difficult to manage. For example, at work, each time I had a
>> new computer, I had to find out the way to display the extensions the
>> fucking retard Microsoft designers decide they are better hidden. And
>> other defaults I didn't like. With Linux, it's really easy to manage
>> more than just that.
>>
>
> Text editors on GNU/Linux that use the GTK+ toolkit will not display
> "hidden files" by default. I suppose that "hidden files" are dotfiles
> but there could be other types of which I am unaware.
>
> I believe that Qt/KDE is the same.

It's not related with Qt/KDE/GTK+/whatever, ls does the same by default.
It's the purpose of the dotfiles: to be hidden by default. But hiding
some files is not the same as displaying a different name for the same
files.

> This is a design decision of the developers to make the GNU/Linux
> desktop more like Microslop.

No. It was like that before Windows. It's a side effect of a good
reason. In every directory, you have two files: "." which is the actual
directory and ".." which is the parent directory. So the purpose was to
avoid displaying those names each time someone does a "ls" because they
provide no information, so they are just noise. Instead of testing "."
then "..", they realize that one test for the "." a first character
accomplished the same result. So it was easier to write and they used
it. Then people started to write a dot in front of the names of their
files to hide them when not needed. So they needed an easy way to
hide/display dotfiles depending on the need.

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Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote at 13:59 this Saturday (GMT):
> On 06 Jul 2024 09:19:05 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>
>>
>> On Linux, you configure your system with dotfiles. So, it's easy to
>> manage them. On Windows, you need a mouse to configure your system. So
>> it's more difficult to manage. For example, at work, each time I had a
>> new computer, I had to find out the way to display the extensions the
>> fucking retard Microsoft designers decide they are better hidden. And
>> other defaults I didn't like. With Linux, it's really easy to manage
>> more than just that.
>>
>
> Text editors on GNU/Linux that use the GTK+ toolkit will not display
> "hidden files" by default. I suppose that "hidden files" are dotfiles
> but there could be other types of which I am unaware.
>
> I believe that Qt/KDE is the same.
>
> This is a design decision of the developers to make the GNU/Linux
> desktop more like Microslop.
>
> Furthermore, that bastard-asshole Lennart Poettering and his systemd
> cohorts want to centralize all GNU/Linux config files:
>
> https://specifications.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-latest.html
>
> The document reads like a dictatorial proclamation as if Poettering
> is the self-proclaimed King of Linux.
>
> We all should say "Fuck You!" to Poettering, GNOME, freedesktop.org, etc.
> Keep your stinking, fucking hands off my system!

Honestly, I do wish there was some kind of standard to put config files,
since half the applications I use dump it into $HOME, which is annoying.
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Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote at 08:19 this Sunday (GMT):
> Le 06-07-2024, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> a écrit :
>> On 06 Jul 2024 09:19:05 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Linux, you configure your system with dotfiles. So, it's easy to
>>> manage them. On Windows, you need a mouse to configure your system. So
>>> it's more difficult to manage. For example, at work, each time I had a
>>> new computer, I had to find out the way to display the extensions the
>>> fucking retard Microsoft designers decide they are better hidden. And
>>> other defaults I didn't like. With Linux, it's really easy to manage
>>> more than just that.
>>>
>>
>> Text editors on GNU/Linux that use the GTK+ toolkit will not display
>> "hidden files" by default. I suppose that "hidden files" are dotfiles
>> but there could be other types of which I am unaware.
>>
>> I believe that Qt/KDE is the same.
>
> It's not related with Qt/KDE/GTK+/whatever, ls does the same by default.
> It's the purpose of the dotfiles: to be hidden by default. But hiding
> some files is not the same as displaying a different name for the same
> files.

Or hiding the extension.

>> This is a design decision of the developers to make the GNU/Linux
>> desktop more like Microslop.
>
> No. It was like that before Windows. It's a side effect of a good
> reason. In every directory, you have two files: "." which is the actual
> directory and ".." which is the parent directory. So the purpose was to
> avoid displaying those names each time someone does a "ls" because they
> provide no information, so they are just noise. Instead of testing "."
> then "..", they realize that one test for the "." a first character
> accomplished the same result. So it was easier to write and they used
> it. Then people started to write a dot in front of the names of their
> files to hide them when not needed. So they needed an easy way to
> hide/display dotfiles depending on the need.

Interesting, I also prefer this way because it's easy to keep the
hidden tag across file transfers and stuff.
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Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote at 08:06 this Sunday (GMT):
> Le 06-07-2024, candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> a écrit :
>> Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote at 09:19 this Saturday (GMT):
>>>
>>> On Linux, you configure your system with dotfiles. So, it's easy to
>>> manage them. On Windows, you need a mouse to configure your system. So
>>> it's more difficult to manage. For example, at work, each time I had a
>>> new computer, I had to find out the way to display the extensions the
>>> fucking retard Microsoft designers decide they are better hidden. And
>>> other defaults I didn't like. With Linux, it's really easy to manage
>>> more than just that.
>>
>> I always thought they hid it so that people don't ""break their files""
>> by messing with it, since they can't read magic numbers for some reason.
>
> It's stupid because when it's hidden, it's more difficult to manage. For
> example "toto.tar.gz" will be displayed "toto.tar". There are lot of
> other examples with files with a wrong extension or with files with
> unknown extensions which become very difficult to change to help the
> system.

I'm not saying it's a good reason, just that it is a possible reason.
Also, I don't think most users have to deal with a .tar.gz file.
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From: ff@linux.rocks (Farley Flud)
Subject: Re: Hey Distro Lackeys!
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On Sun, 7 Jul 2024 13:00:05 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:

>
> Honestly, I do wish there was some kind of standard to put config files,
> since half the applications I use dump it into $HOME, which is annoying.
>

The location of the config file(s) should be, and with a
lot of programs is, user specified either during build time
or run time. Usually there is a search hierarchy: current
dir, home dir, /etc.

So-called "modern" desktops, however, assume that the user
is lazy and does not/can not configure and therefore create
a standard, universal directory that can't be changed.
This is a bad practice.

Subject: Re: Hey Distro Lackeys!
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Joel wrote:
> % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Lester Thorpe wrote:
>>> On Fri, 05 Jul 2024 19:54:12 +0000, Diego Garcia wrote:
>>>
>>>> On this Fourth of July weekend remember that information freedom
>>>> is just as important as information freedom.
>>>
>>> Whoops! That last bit should be "political freedom."
>>>
>>> "info freedom as important as political freedom."
>>>
>>> But the fucking distro lackey, who can't even pick the
>>> dingle berries off his own ass, will be as clueless as
>>> ever.
>>>
>> and this has what to do with linux advocacy exactly
>
>
> He advocates retardation.
>
>
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Subject: Re: Hey Distro Lackeys!
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Be careful! UGLY strikes 9 out of 10!

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Subject	Author
Hey Distro Lackeys!	Diego Garcia
Re: Hey Distro Lackeys!	Joel
Re: Hey Distro Lackeys!	Lester Thorpe
Re: Hey Distro Lackeys!	%
Re: Hey Distro Lackeys!	Joel
Re: Hey Distro Lackeys!	%
Re: Hey Distro Lackeys!	Lester Thorpe
Re: Hey Distro Lackeys!	%
Re: Hey Distro Lackeys!	Stéphane CARPENTIER
Re: Hey Distro Lackeys!	vallor
Re: Hey Distro Lackeys!	Stéphane CARPENTIER
Re: Hey Distro Lackeys!	Stéphane CARPENTIER
Re: Hey Distro Lackeys!	candycanearter07
Re: Hey Distro Lackeys!	Stéphane CARPENTIER
Re: Hey Distro Lackeys!	candycanearter07
Re: Hey Distro Lackeys!	Stéphane CARPENTIER
Re: Hey Distro Lackeys!	Farley Flud
Re: Hey Distro Lackeys!	Stéphane CARPENTIER
Re: Hey Distro Lackeys!	candycanearter07
Re: Hey Distro Lackeys!	candycanearter07
Re: Hey Distro Lackeys!	Farley Flud
Re: Hey Distro Lackeys!	Stéphane CARPENTIER
config tricks (was: Re: Hey Distro Lackeys!)	vallor
Re: Hey Distro Lackeys!	Stéphane CARPENTIER
Re: Hey Distro Lackeys!	Stéphane CARPENTIER
Re: Hey Distro Lackeys!	DFS
Re: Hey Distro Lackeys!	candycanearter07