https://imgur.com/a/R0ARmN0

ALL the Linux "equivalents" are pure junk compared to this masterful
Windows application.

It's proprietary but free of cost for personal use.

Along with other apps, the creator has worked on it since 1999. ONE
competent, dedicated Windows developer puts to shame the entire universe
of FOSS crapware developers that have tried to do what this guy does.

Linux has a command (with the same name) that outputs TONS of info, but
it's basically unreadable. The output is made for... I don't know who
the intended audience is, but it's not regular users.

This app is yet more PROOF that in a world where Windows exists, there's
no reason to run Linux on your desktop.

Enjoy!

Who wants rentware? Forced to keep paying and paying, just to access your
own work.

On 5/6/2024 1:52 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

> Who wants rentware? Forced to keep paying and paying, just to access your
> own work.

Try again.

On 2024-05-06 8:45 a.m., DFS wrote:
> On 5/6/2024 1:52 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> Who wants rentware? Forced to keep paying and paying, just to access your
>> own work.
>
>
> Try again.

I guess he missed the part where you said that it was free for personal
use.

--
Andrzej (Andre) Matuch
TG: @AndrzejMatuch
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king.

On 5/6/2024 8:55 AM, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
> On 2024-05-06 8:45 a.m., DFS wrote:
>> On 5/6/2024 1:52 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>>> Who wants rentware? Forced to keep paying and paying, just to access
>>> your
>>> own work.
>>
>>
>> Try again.
>
> I guess he missed the part where you said that it was free for personal
> use.

And he missed the part where you can buy perpetual licenses.

And he missed the part where, even if you subscribe, nothing quits
working after your subscription expires.

As far as I know, there are VERY VERY FEW (maybe 0) devilish
rentware-only programs out there that literally lock you out of your
documents when the software subscription expires. Adobe doesn't. MS
doesnt.

MS Office seems to be heading to subscription only, though. But for now
you can still buy one-time purchase versions through MS (the latest is
Office 2021). But even if the Office 365 apps expire, you can use your
own docs.

I just saw MS Office 365 can be really inexpensive. $99 per year for 6
users on the family plan. $1000 over 10 years / 6 users = $166 each.
Very good deal, even if inflation drives the price up to $200 ea, that's
$20 per year per user.

On 2024-05-06 9:29 a.m., DFS wrote:
> On 5/6/2024 8:55 AM, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>> On 2024-05-06 8:45 a.m., DFS wrote:
>>> On 5/6/2024 1:52 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>
>>>> Who wants rentware? Forced to keep paying and paying, just to access
>>>> your
>>>> own work.
>>>
>>>
>>> Try again.
>>
>> I guess he missed the part where you said that it was free for
>> personal use.
>
>
> And he missed the part where you can buy perpetual licenses.
>
> And he missed the part where, even if you subscribe, nothing quits
> working after your subscription expires.
>
>
> As far as I know, there are VERY VERY FEW (maybe 0) devilish
> rentware-only programs out there that literally lock you out of your
> documents when the software subscription expires.  Adobe doesn't.  MS
> doesnt.
>
> MS Office seems to be heading to subscription only, though.  But for now
> you can still buy one-time purchase versions through MS (the latest is
> Office 2021).  But even if the Office 365 apps expire, you can use your
> own docs.

If they don't make another stand-alone version after Office 2021, I'll
just quit buying the licenses. LibreOffice will manage quite well in the
worst case scenario.

> I just saw MS Office 365 can be really inexpensive.  $99 per year for 6
> users on the family plan.  $1000 over 10 years / 6 users = $166 each.
> Very good deal, even if inflation drives the price up to $200 ea, that's
> $20 per year per user.

I bought Office 2021 Pro Plus for $40 USD if I remember correctly. They
have such specials on BleepingComputer all the time if someone is
looking for an Office or Windows license.

--
Andrzej (Andre) Matuch
TG: @AndrzejMatuch
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king.

On Sun, 5 May 2024 22:54:19 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in
<6638465a$0$8092$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:

> https://imgur.com/a/R0ARmN0
>
> ALL the Linux "equivalents" are pure junk compared to this masterful
> Windows application.
>
> It's proprietary but free of cost for personal use.
>
> Along with other apps, the creator has worked on it since 1999. ONE
> competent, dedicated Windows developer puts to shame the entire universe
> of FOSS crapware developers that have tried to do what this guy does.
>
> Linux has a command (with the same name) that outputs TONS of info, but
> it's basically unreadable. The output is made for... I don't know who
> the intended audience is, but it's not regular users.
>
> This app is yet more PROOF that in a world where Windows exists, there's
> no reason to run Linux on your desktop.
>
> Enjoy!

I wrote a detailed response to this last night, then realized you
weren't interested in an answer -- you were just emulating a
"Feeb screed", for which I commend you for matching his tone,
if not his vigor.

--
-v

On 5/6/2024 1:10 PM, vallor wrote:
> On Sun, 5 May 2024 22:54:19 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in
> <6638465a$0$8092$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>
>> https://imgur.com/a/R0ARmN0
>>
>> ALL the Linux "equivalents" are pure junk compared to this masterful
>> Windows application.
>>
>> It's proprietary but free of cost for personal use.
>>
>> Along with other apps, the creator has worked on it since 1999. ONE
>> competent, dedicated Windows developer puts to shame the entire universe
>> of FOSS crapware developers that have tried to do what this guy does.
>>
>> Linux has a command (with the same name) that outputs TONS of info, but
>> it's basically unreadable. The output is made for... I don't know who
>> the intended audience is, but it's not regular users.
>>
>> This app is yet more PROOF that in a world where Windows exists, there's
>> no reason to run Linux on your desktop.
>>
>> Enjoy!
>
> I wrote a detailed response to this last night, then realized you
> weren't interested in an answer

I hope it was a serious response that mentioned hwinfo and inxi and
CPU-X and neofetch and assorted other GuhNoo crapware.

> -- you were just emulating a "Feeb screed", for which I commend you
> for matching his tone, if not his vigor.

You forget: I precede Feeb on cola by many years, and I wrote many,
many, many posts with a 'tone and vigor' similar to the above long
before that phony loudmouth arrived.

On Mon, 6 May 2024 05:52:37 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:

> Who wants rentware? Forced to keep paying and paying, just to access your
> own work.

Why do you even bother to respond to this idiotic troll?

This dude is stupid to the extreme.

His pathetic life's work is his COLA database, but the
stupid dunce fails to include an important database column:

Tonality.

All human utterances must include a tonality marker:
sincere, antithetical, hyperbolic, elliptical, etc., etc.

But this supreme dunce fails to include a tonality
column and thus his "magnificent" life's work is totally
worthless bullshit.

One might reasonably question how it would be possible
to determine the tonality of a post without an explicit
indication from the author, and one would be correct.
It would indeed be impossible.

This only further indicates the utter stupidity of
his self-proclaimed enterprise. If there is no possible
way to capture tonality then why bother?

But total idiots cannot be dissuaded. His life's work
is a total farce but he's too fucking stupid to comprehend.

However, no one of rational mind would ever give any attention.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>On 5/6/2024 1:10 PM, vallor wrote:
>> On Sun, 5 May 2024 22:54:19 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in
>> <6638465a$0$8092$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>
>>> This app is yet more PROOF that in a world where Windows exists, there's
>>> no reason to run Linux on your desktop.
>>
>> I wrote a detailed response to this last night, then realized you
>> weren't interested in an answer
>
>I hope it was a serious response that mentioned hwinfo and inxi and
>CPU-X and neofetch and assorted other GuhNoo crapware.

CPU-X is as good as anything for Winblows.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On Mon, 6 May 2024 08:55:28 -0400, Andrzej Matuch wrote:

> ... free for personal use.

Ah, that old con.

What counts as “personal” use? Am I allowed to advertise the work I’ve
done with it to get a job? Am I allowed to do tutorials with it and post
them on a commercial site like YouTube? Am I allowed to make money from
those tutorials?

On 5/6/2024 4:24 PM, Raging Larry Piet wrote:

> his COLA database

It's a Usenet db, as I've explained many times. Nothing in it is unique
to cola or to any other group.

> Tonality.

All your raging posts have the same "tonality": broke-incel-anger

> idiotic troll, stupid to the extreme, stupid dunce, supreme dunce,
> totally worthless bullshit, utter stupidity of his self-proclaimed
> enterprise, total idiot, total farce, too fucking stupid

Still broke, broken down, and womanless I see.

Where did it all go so wrong?

vallor wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Sun, 5 May 2024 22:54:19 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in
> <6638465a$0$8092$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>
>> https://imgur.com/a/R0ARmN0
>>
>> ALL the Linux "equivalents" are pure junk compared to this masterful
>> Windows application.
>>
>> It's proprietary but free of cost for personal use.
>>
>> Along with other apps, the creator has worked on it since 1999. ONE
>> competent, dedicated Windows developer puts to shame the entire universe
>> of FOSS crapware developers that have tried to do what this guy does.
>>
>> Linux has a command (with the same name) that outputs TONS of info, but
>> it's basically unreadable. The output is made for... I don't know who
>> the intended audience is, but it's not regular users.
>>
>> This app is yet more PROOF that in a world where Windows exists, there's
>> no reason to run Linux on your desktop.

It doesn't prove squat, GUI-boi.

>> Enjoy!
>
> I wrote a detailed response to this last night, then realized you
> weren't interested in an answer -- you were just emulating a
> "Feeb screed", for which I commend you for matching his tone,
> if not his vigor.

Face it, DFS confuses a nice, if overly-busy GUI, with actual base
functionality.

That is, if his GUI doesn't show it, he'll never know it.

Whereas hwinfo output can be run through a filter.

Also, it looks like hwinfo reads the files in /proc.

--
You will remember something that you should not have forgotten.

On 2024-05-06 11:31 p.m., DFS wrote:
> On 5/6/2024 4:24 PM, Raging Larry Piet wrote:
>
>
>> his COLA database
>
> It's a Usenet db, as I've explained many times.  Nothing in it is unique
> to cola or to any other group.
>
>
>
>> Tonality.
>
> All your raging posts have the same "tonality": broke-incel-anger

He'll change once the Linux development community delivers an
open-source sex doll for him. I imagine she'll look something like this:
<https://www.gamespot.com/a/uploads/screen_kubrick/1574/15746725/4082120-untitled(9).png>

By the way, Atomic Heart is a great game.

>> idiotic troll, stupid to the extreme, stupid dunce, supreme dunce,
>> totally worthless bullshit, utter stupidity of his self-proclaimed
>> enterprise, total idiot, total farce, too fucking stupid
>
> Still broke, broken down, and womanless I see.
>
> Where did it all go so wrong?

Flatulence and obesity.

--
Andrzej (Andre) Matuch
TG: @AndrzejMatuch
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king.

On 2024-05-07 8:08 a.m., Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> vallor wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On Sun, 5 May 2024 22:54:19 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in
>> <6638465a$0$8092$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>
>>> https://imgur.com/a/R0ARmN0
>>>
>>> ALL the Linux "equivalents" are pure junk compared to this masterful
>>> Windows application.
>>>
>>> It's proprietary but free of cost for personal use.
>>>
>>> Along with other apps, the creator has worked on it since 1999. ONE
>>> competent, dedicated Windows developer puts to shame the entire universe
>>> of FOSS crapware developers that have tried to do what this guy does.
>>>
>>> Linux has a command (with the same name) that outputs TONS of info, but
>>> it's basically unreadable. The output is made for... I don't know who
>>> the intended audience is, but it's not regular users.
>>>
>>> This app is yet more PROOF that in a world where Windows exists, there's
>>> no reason to run Linux on your desktop.
>
> It doesn't prove squat, GUI-boi.

You're mocking him for enjoying a GUI? What decade are you in?
< snip >

--
Andrzej (Andre) Matuch
TG: @AndrzejMatuch
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king.

On 5/7/2024 8:08 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> vallor wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On Sun, 5 May 2024 22:54:19 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:

>>> This app is yet more PROOF that in a world where Windows exists, there's
>>> no reason to run Linux on your desktop.
>
> It doesn't prove squat, GUI-boi.

Talking to me and about me from behind your killfile? Shades of that
other worm shitv.

Andrzej Matuch wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On 2024-05-07 8:08 a.m., Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>> vallor wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> On Sun, 5 May 2024 22:54:19 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in
>>> <6638465a$0$8092$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>
>>>> https://imgur.com/a/R0ARmN0
>>>>
>>>> ALL the Linux "equivalents" are pure junk compared to this masterful
>>>> Windows application.
>>>>
>>>> It's proprietary but free of cost for personal use.
>>>>
>>>> Along with other apps, the creator has worked on it since 1999. ONE
>>>> competent, dedicated Windows developer puts to shame the entire universe
>>>> of FOSS crapware developers that have tried to do what this guy does.
>>>>
>>>> Linux has a command (with the same name) that outputs TONS of info, but
>>>> it's basically unreadable. The output is made for... I don't know who
>>>> the intended audience is, but it's not regular users.
>>>>
>>>> This app is yet more PROOF that in a world where Windows exists, there's
>>>> no reason to run Linux on your desktop.
>>
>> It doesn't prove squat, GUI-boi.
>
> You're mocking him for enjoying a GUI? What decade are you in?
> < snip >

The 2020's, where I can use vim, gnu autotools, meson, gcc/g++, clang/clang++,
slrn, mutt, mpd + ncmpcpp, alsamixer, git, latex, ssh, and more in a terminal
window.

I do use gvim when I want edit two or more source-code files side by side.
Use zathura to read PDFs. GIMP for photo-tweaking. Libreoffice for short
how-tos. Conky for system info. GUI browsers mostly. And of course the sddm
display manager and the fluxbox window manager.

I'm not mocking him for enjoying a GUI, I'm mocking him for crowing like
a fool about it, as if there's only one true way to us a computer.

--
Q: How do you save a drowning lawyer?
A: Throw him a rock.

Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote at 16:20 this Tuesday (GMT):
> Andrzej Matuch wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On 2024-05-07 8:08 a.m., Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>> vallor wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 5 May 2024 22:54:19 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in
>>>> <6638465a$0$8092$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> https://imgur.com/a/R0ARmN0
>>>>>
>>>>> ALL the Linux "equivalents" are pure junk compared to this masterful
>>>>> Windows application.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's proprietary but free of cost for personal use.
>>>>>
>>>>> Along with other apps, the creator has worked on it since 1999. ONE
>>>>> competent, dedicated Windows developer puts to shame the entire universe
>>>>> of FOSS crapware developers that have tried to do what this guy does.
>>>>>
>>>>> Linux has a command (with the same name) that outputs TONS of info, but
>>>>> it's basically unreadable. The output is made for... I don't know who
>>>>> the intended audience is, but it's not regular users.
>>>>>
>>>>> This app is yet more PROOF that in a world where Windows exists, there's
>>>>> no reason to run Linux on your desktop.
>>>
>>> It doesn't prove squat, GUI-boi.
>>
>> You're mocking him for enjoying a GUI? What decade are you in?
>> < snip >
>
> The 2020's, where I can use vim, gnu autotools, meson, gcc/g++, clang/clang++,
> slrn, mutt, mpd + ncmpcpp, alsamixer, git, latex, ssh, and more in a terminal
> window.
>
> I do use gvim when I want edit two or more source-code files side by side.
> Use zathura to read PDFs. GIMP for photo-tweaking. Libreoffice for short
> how-tos. Conky for system info. GUI browsers mostly. And of course the sddm
> display manager and the fluxbox window manager.
>
> I'm not mocking him for enjoying a GUI, I'm mocking him for crowing like
> a fool about it, as if there's only one true way to us a computer.

Hey same! Besides I use mpv instead of mpd and no alsamixer or latex.
Also I don't really like conky and use xosview2 instead.
--
user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

On 2024-05-07 12:20 p.m., Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> Andrzej Matuch wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On 2024-05-07 8:08 a.m., Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>> vallor wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 5 May 2024 22:54:19 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in
>>>> <6638465a$0$8092$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> https://imgur.com/a/R0ARmN0
>>>>>
>>>>> ALL the Linux "equivalents" are pure junk compared to this masterful
>>>>> Windows application.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's proprietary but free of cost for personal use.
>>>>>
>>>>> Along with other apps, the creator has worked on it since 1999. ONE
>>>>> competent, dedicated Windows developer puts to shame the entire universe
>>>>> of FOSS crapware developers that have tried to do what this guy does.
>>>>>
>>>>> Linux has a command (with the same name) that outputs TONS of info, but
>>>>> it's basically unreadable. The output is made for... I don't know who
>>>>> the intended audience is, but it's not regular users.
>>>>>
>>>>> This app is yet more PROOF that in a world where Windows exists, there's
>>>>> no reason to run Linux on your desktop.
>>>
>>> It doesn't prove squat, GUI-boi.
>>
>> You're mocking him for enjoying a GUI? What decade are you in?
>> < snip >
>
> The 2020's, where I can use vim, gnu autotools, meson, gcc/g++, clang/clang++,
> slrn, mutt, mpd + ncmpcpp, alsamixer, git, latex, ssh, and more in a terminal
> window.
>
> I do use gvim when I want edit two or more source-code files side by side.
> Use zathura to read PDFs. GIMP for photo-tweaking. Libreoffice for short
> how-tos. Conky for system info. GUI browsers mostly. And of course the sddm
> display manager and the fluxbox window manager.
>
> I'm not mocking him for enjoying a GUI, I'm mocking him for crowing like
> a fool about it, as if there's only one true way to us a computer.

I have to admit that there are certain things that are a lot easier to
do in the command line. I've very much appreciated the "libreoffice
--headless convert-to ODT *.docx" line.

--
Andrzej (Andre) Matuch
TG: @AndrzejMatuch
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king.

On 2024-05-07, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
> On 2024-05-07 8:08 a.m., Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>> vallor wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> On Sun, 5 May 2024 22:54:19 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in
>>> <6638465a$0$8092$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>
>>>> https://imgur.com/a/R0ARmN0
>>>>
>>>> ALL the Linux "equivalents" are pure junk compared to this masterful
>>>> Windows application.
>>>>
>>>> It's proprietary but free of cost for personal use.
>>>>
>>>> Along with other apps, the creator has worked on it since 1999. ONE
>>>> competent, dedicated Windows developer puts to shame the entire universe
>>>> of FOSS crapware developers that have tried to do what this guy does.
>>>>
>>>> Linux has a command (with the same name) that outputs TONS of info, but
>>>> it's basically unreadable. The output is made for... I don't know who
>>>> the intended audience is, but it's not regular users.
>>>>
>>>> This app is yet more PROOF that in a world where Windows exists, there's
>>>> no reason to run Linux on your desktop.
>>
>> It doesn't prove squat, GUI-boi.
>
> You're mocking him for enjoying a GUI? What decade are you in?
>< snip >

I think he's mocking him for thinking GUIs are the only useful interface.

--
[Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an
entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

On 2024-05-07, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
> Andrzej Matuch wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On 2024-05-07 8:08 a.m., Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>> vallor wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 5 May 2024 22:54:19 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in
>>>> <6638465a$0$8092$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> https://imgur.com/a/R0ARmN0
>>>>>
>>>>> ALL the Linux "equivalents" are pure junk compared to this masterful
>>>>> Windows application.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's proprietary but free of cost for personal use.
>>>>>
>>>>> Along with other apps, the creator has worked on it since 1999. ONE
>>>>> competent, dedicated Windows developer puts to shame the entire universe
>>>>> of FOSS crapware developers that have tried to do what this guy does.
>>>>>
>>>>> Linux has a command (with the same name) that outputs TONS of info, but
>>>>> it's basically unreadable. The output is made for... I don't know who
>>>>> the intended audience is, but it's not regular users.
>>>>>
>>>>> This app is yet more PROOF that in a world where Windows exists, there's
>>>>> no reason to run Linux on your desktop.
>>>
>>> It doesn't prove squat, GUI-boi.
>>
>> You're mocking him for enjoying a GUI? What decade are you in?
>> < snip >
>
> The 2020's, where I can use vim, gnu autotools, meson, gcc/g++, clang/clang++,
> slrn, mutt, mpd + ncmpcpp, alsamixer, git, latex, ssh, and more in a terminal
> window.
>
> I do use gvim when I want edit two or more source-code files side by side.
> Use zathura to read PDFs. GIMP for photo-tweaking. Libreoffice for short
> how-tos. Conky for system info. GUI browsers mostly. And of course the sddm
> display manager and the fluxbox window manager.
>
> I'm not mocking him for enjoying a GUI, I'm mocking him for crowing like
> a fool about it, as if there's only one true way to us a computer.

I'm using slrn to respond to this post. It's efficient and quick. What does
DuFuS "think" I'm supposedly losing by using this CLI app instead of a GUI
application?

--
[Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an
entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

On 2024-05-07, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
> On 2024-05-07 12:20 p.m., Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>> Andrzej Matuch wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> On 2024-05-07 8:08 a.m., Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>> vallor wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 5 May 2024 22:54:19 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in
>>>>> <6638465a$0$8092$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> https://imgur.com/a/R0ARmN0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ALL the Linux "equivalents" are pure junk compared to this masterful
>>>>>> Windows application.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's proprietary but free of cost for personal use.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Along with other apps, the creator has worked on it since 1999. ONE
>>>>>> competent, dedicated Windows developer puts to shame the entire universe
>>>>>> of FOSS crapware developers that have tried to do what this guy does.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Linux has a command (with the same name) that outputs TONS of info, but
>>>>>> it's basically unreadable. The output is made for... I don't know who
>>>>>> the intended audience is, but it's not regular users.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This app is yet more PROOF that in a world where Windows exists, there's
>>>>>> no reason to run Linux on your desktop.
>>>>
>>>> It doesn't prove squat, GUI-boi.
>>>
>>> You're mocking him for enjoying a GUI? What decade are you in?
>>> < snip >
>>
>> The 2020's, where I can use vim, gnu autotools, meson, gcc/g++, clang/clang++,
>> slrn, mutt, mpd + ncmpcpp, alsamixer, git, latex, ssh, and more in a terminal
>> window.
>>
>> I do use gvim when I want edit two or more source-code files side by side.
>> Use zathura to read PDFs. GIMP for photo-tweaking. Libreoffice for short
>> how-tos. Conky for system info. GUI browsers mostly. And of course the sddm
>> display manager and the fluxbox window manager.
>>
>> I'm not mocking him for enjoying a GUI, I'm mocking him for crowing like
>> a fool about it, as if there's only one true way to us a computer.
>
> I have to admit that there are certain things that are a lot easier to
> do in the command line. I've very much appreciated the "libreoffice
> --headless convert-to ODT *.docx" line.

Sometimes I need to convert .pngs into .mp3s — so I just type...

convert filename.png filename.mp3.

Couldn't be easier. You can do wildcards as well.

Or pdfunite to join PDF documents... tons of stuff like this available form
the Linux CLI.

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On 2024-05-07 10:12 p.m., RonB wrote:
> On 2024-05-07, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>> On 2024-05-07 12:20 p.m., Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>> Andrzej Matuch wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-05-07 8:08 a.m., Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>> vallor wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 5 May 2024 22:54:19 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in
>>>>>> <6638465a$0$8092$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://imgur.com/a/R0ARmN0
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ALL the Linux "equivalents" are pure junk compared to this masterful
>>>>>>> Windows application.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's proprietary but free of cost for personal use.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Along with other apps, the creator has worked on it since 1999. ONE
>>>>>>> competent, dedicated Windows developer puts to shame the entire universe
>>>>>>> of FOSS crapware developers that have tried to do what this guy does.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Linux has a command (with the same name) that outputs TONS of info, but
>>>>>>> it's basically unreadable. The output is made for... I don't know who
>>>>>>> the intended audience is, but it's not regular users.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This app is yet more PROOF that in a world where Windows exists, there's
>>>>>>> no reason to run Linux on your desktop.
>>>>>
>>>>> It doesn't prove squat, GUI-boi.
>>>>
>>>> You're mocking him for enjoying a GUI? What decade are you in?
>>>> < snip >
>>>
>>> The 2020's, where I can use vim, gnu autotools, meson, gcc/g++, clang/clang++,
>>> slrn, mutt, mpd + ncmpcpp, alsamixer, git, latex, ssh, and more in a terminal
>>> window.
>>>
>>> I do use gvim when I want edit two or more source-code files side by side.
>>> Use zathura to read PDFs. GIMP for photo-tweaking. Libreoffice for short
>>> how-tos. Conky for system info. GUI browsers mostly. And of course the sddm
>>> display manager and the fluxbox window manager.
>>>
>>> I'm not mocking him for enjoying a GUI, I'm mocking him for crowing like
>>> a fool about it, as if there's only one true way to us a computer.
>>
>> I have to admit that there are certain things that are a lot easier to
>> do in the command line. I've very much appreciated the "libreoffice
>> --headless convert-to ODT *.docx" line.
>
> Sometimes I need to convert .pngs into .mp3s — so I just type...
>
> convert filename.png filename.mp3.
>
> Couldn't be easier. You can do wildcards as well.
>
> Or pdfunite to join PDF documents... tons of stuff like this available form
> the Linux CLI.

As imperfect as the system itself can be, there is no denying that the
tools available in the free software world are more than enough to get
the job done. They will never satisfy DFS, but that's fine; I doubt the
developers of open-source are interested in having him as a client anyway.

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TG: @AndrzejMatuch
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On 2024-05-07 10:07 p.m., RonB wrote:
> On 2024-05-07, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>> Andrzej Matuch wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> On 2024-05-07 8:08 a.m., Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>> vallor wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 5 May 2024 22:54:19 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in
>>>>> <6638465a$0$8092$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> https://imgur.com/a/R0ARmN0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ALL the Linux "equivalents" are pure junk compared to this masterful
>>>>>> Windows application.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's proprietary but free of cost for personal use.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Along with other apps, the creator has worked on it since 1999. ONE
>>>>>> competent, dedicated Windows developer puts to shame the entire universe
>>>>>> of FOSS crapware developers that have tried to do what this guy does.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Linux has a command (with the same name) that outputs TONS of info, but
>>>>>> it's basically unreadable. The output is made for... I don't know who
>>>>>> the intended audience is, but it's not regular users.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This app is yet more PROOF that in a world where Windows exists, there's
>>>>>> no reason to run Linux on your desktop.
>>>>
>>>> It doesn't prove squat, GUI-boi.
>>>
>>> You're mocking him for enjoying a GUI? What decade are you in?
>>> < snip >
>>
>> The 2020's, where I can use vim, gnu autotools, meson, gcc/g++, clang/clang++,
>> slrn, mutt, mpd + ncmpcpp, alsamixer, git, latex, ssh, and more in a terminal
>> window.
>>
>> I do use gvim when I want edit two or more source-code files side by side.
>> Use zathura to read PDFs. GIMP for photo-tweaking. Libreoffice for short
>> how-tos. Conky for system info. GUI browsers mostly. And of course the sddm
>> display manager and the fluxbox window manager.
>>
>> I'm not mocking him for enjoying a GUI, I'm mocking him for crowing like
>> a fool about it, as if there's only one true way to us a computer.
>
> I'm using slrn to respond to this post. It's efficient and quick. What does
> DuFuS "think" I'm supposedly losing by using this CLI app instead of a GUI
> application?

I think the most common complaint of people using Linux CLI or GUI tools
is that they look dated. I'm not sure why this is such a problem,
especially if they still manage to get the job done, for free, in the
same amount of time.

--
Andrzej (Andre) Matuch
TG: @AndrzejMatuch
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king.

Andrzej Matuch wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On 2024-05-07 10:07 p.m., RonB wrote:
>> On 2024-05-07, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>>> Andrzej Matuch wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>
>>>> On 2024-05-07 8:08 a.m., Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>> vallor wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 5 May 2024 22:54:19 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in
>>>>>> <6638465a$0$8092$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://imgur.com/a/R0ARmN0
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ALL the Linux "equivalents" are pure junk compared to this masterful
>>>>>>> Windows application.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's proprietary but free of cost for personal use.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Along with other apps, the creator has worked on it since 1999. ONE
>>>>>>> competent, dedicated Windows developer puts to shame the entire universe
>>>>>>> of FOSS crapware developers that have tried to do what this guy does.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Linux has a command (with the same name) that outputs TONS of info, but
>>>>>>> it's basically unreadable. The output is made for... I don't know who
>>>>>>> the intended audience is, but it's not regular users.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This app is yet more PROOF that in a world where Windows exists, there's
>>>>>>> no reason to run Linux on your desktop.
>>>>>
>>>>> It doesn't prove squat, GUI-boi.
>>>>
>>>> You're mocking him for enjoying a GUI? What decade are you in?
>>>> < snip >
>>>
>>> The 2020's, where I can use vim, gnu autotools, meson, gcc/g++, clang/clang++,
>>> slrn, mutt, mpd + ncmpcpp, alsamixer, git, latex, ssh, and more in a terminal
>>> window.
>>>
>>> I do use gvim when I want edit two or more source-code files side by side.
>>> Use zathura to read PDFs. GIMP for photo-tweaking. Libreoffice for short
>>> how-tos. Conky for system info. GUI browsers mostly. And of course the sddm
>>> display manager and the fluxbox window manager.
>>>
>>> I'm not mocking him for enjoying a GUI, I'm mocking him for crowing like
>>> a fool about it, as if there's only one true way to us a computer.
>>
>> I'm using slrn to respond to this post. It's efficient and quick. What does
>> DuFuS "think" I'm supposedly losing by using this CLI app instead of a GUI
>> application?
>
> I think the most common complaint of people using Linux CLI or GUI tools
> is that they look dated. I'm not sure why this is such a problem,
> especially if they still manage to get the job done, for free, in the
> same amount of time.

Dated? Old ones, yeah. Gvim, yeah. GIMP? Naw, it seems pretty clean and
"modern" to me.

And hell, a lot of stock Windows apps look incredibly dated.

And the new styles (flat, no embossing on buttons) can make a GUI more
difficult to discern (and hence use).

Oh well, a lotta people are impressed by bling, and maybe think it
reflects on the functionality. People are funny.

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