On Thu, 27 Jun 2024 21:26:49 -0400, DFS wrote:

> You're way too smart to believe in such drivel.

I once saw a VW beetle transform into a dragon with fiery red eys. I was
driving from upstate NY to St Pete non-stop, taking little white pills
(black actually) and my eyes were open WIDE.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otkytn8L-Cw

chrisv wrote:

>The computer, and everything on it, you
>bought and paid for (or was given away for Free).

Note that when I say "Free", I mean truly Free. Unlike so many phone
apps, where you agree to let them track you and sell your data, just
so that you can save a dollar.

A have a friend who is a bit of a cheapskate. Despite being quite
politically conservative, and despite having *plenty* of money, he
boasted of having some phone app that gets him a discount on gas and
other various things that he buys. *Obviously* the trade-off is them
knowing about everything that you buy.

I'm thinking "None for me, thanks. I don't need to save that dollar."

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On 2024-06-27 23:56, rbowman wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Jun 2024 19:43:11 -0400, RabidPedagog wrote:
>
>> He did, but there is context there. He's not saying that child
>> pronography should be produced, but he is against censoring whatever has
>> already been produced. It's a very difficult position to take because he
>> believes censorship in general is bad, even when the content is
>> objectively terrible, simply because the terribleness of content is
>> always subjective. In other words, a lawmaker will today decide that the
>> sight of a naked 12-year-old is abhorrent, but he can tomorrow decide
>> that the sight of a female in general is too.
>
> It is a tough call. My wife was a librarian. iirc the state of
> Massachusetts, home of the Puritans, passed a law declaring the female
> nipple obscene. Quick, lock up the art books!
>
> Then there was that Blind Faith album cover with the topless 11 year old.
> Is possession of the album child pornography? Wikipedia provides a photo
> of the cover; are they liable?
>
> I have made no secret of my dislike for Stallamn but he is being
> consistent. Well, not really consistent; afaik he is not calling for child
> pornography to be GPL v3.

His position is pretty clear and he has held onto it for as long as he
has been alive. He is also willing to defend it, and does so to the best
of his ability. We can disagree with him, but some of his points are
quite true regardless of how controversial they might be.

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On 2024-06-28 00:02, rbowman wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Jun 2024 21:46:54 -0400, RabidPedagog wrote:
>
>> . No Linux installer forces you into using the cloud.
>
> Well, sort of... Any distro I've installed lately first sets up an
> internet connection so it can phone home and get the rest of its stuff.
> The Lubuntu install I did recently was very unhappy with the Broadcomm
> wifi chip. I had to use a USB wifi dongle to get to the internet to
> install the Broadcomm driver.
>
> That SiSE 8.1 box set I found in the shed was the good old days.
> Everything was on the multiple disks in the box.

You _can_ connect to the Internet while installing most Linux
distributions to have it update as it installs but if you don't, that's
fine too. It doesn't require you to do one or the other, in my experience.

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rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote at 07:09 this Thursday (GMT):
> On Thu, 27 Jun 2024 00:44:24 -0400, Joel wrote:
>
>> I was able to post to Usenet with a phone app, on my vacation, certainly
>> not as good as a computer, but it goes to show it can be done.
>
> I've never tried that. Trying to type something in Slack with my big, fat,
> fingers and not having it autocorrected to oblivion is hard enough.

I'd be more worried about snipping the replies easier..selecting text on
a phone can be hard sometimes.
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rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote at 04:02 this Friday (GMT):
> On Thu, 27 Jun 2024 21:46:54 -0400, RabidPedagog wrote:
>
>> . No Linux installer forces you into using the cloud.
>
> Well, sort of... Any distro I've installed lately first sets up an
> internet connection so it can phone home and get the rest of its stuff.
> The Lubuntu install I did recently was very unhappy with the Broadcomm
> wifi chip. I had to use a USB wifi dongle to get to the internet to
> install the Broadcomm driver.
>
> That SiSE 8.1 box set I found in the shed was the good old days.
> Everything was on the multiple disks in the box.

To be fair, the "full" install is a couple gigabytes more usually. But,
it is just installing packages instead of forcing an account on you.
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Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote at 16:18 this Monday (GMT):
> candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
> wrote:
>>Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote at 14:50 this Monday (GMT):
>>> candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
>>> wrote:
>>>>rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote at 07:09 this Thursday (GMT):
>>>>> On Thu, 27 Jun 2024 00:44:24 -0400, Joel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I was able to post to Usenet with a phone app, on my vacation, certainly
>>>>>> not as good as a computer, but it goes to show it can be done.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've never tried that. Trying to type something in Slack with my big, fat,
>>>>> fingers and not having it autocorrected to oblivion is hard enough.
>>>>
>>>>I'd be more worried about snipping the replies easier..selecting text on
>>>>a phone can be hard sometimes.
>>>
>>> Yes, that was the main drawback other than the Android app I found not
>>> supporting crossposting replies.
>>
>>Right. Did it get any easier over time?
>
>
> To an extent, yeah, you develop a technique, but there's no easy way
> to do it like with my GUI newsreader on a computer.

Right. At least you (hopefully) won't have to do it again.
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