If you want to combine "cutting edge" and Linux Mint, this is about as close
as you'll come to it — the first version of a new major point release beta.
It's using kernel 6.8.0-35 and Cinnamon 6.2.2. LibreOffice is at 24.3...
something. I forgot to write the exact release. So, as mentioned in the
subject line, it's currently "cutting edge" but it probably won't be when
Linux Mint 22 is released.

On my computer it's using Xorg. I don't know what it would default to on a
more modern computer. I ran Neofetch and took a screenshot. (This is one of
the wallpapers that currently is included with this LM release named
"Wilma.")

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Lod6bGzCJ6-RO-Txt8Q-Fjq9SvMM8Ry8/view?usp=sharing

What I tested worked well. I installed Trelby 2.4.9, which stalled because
it needed ReportLab. Fortunately python3-reportlab was available and easy to
install, and Trelby took right off. So it looks like Trelby will work for a
few more years. (Minor for most people but a big deal for me. And not bad
for an application released in 2012 where the developers walked away from it
in the same year — since it's open source, others upgraded it for newer
versions of Python and associated files, but didn't much else.)

I installed my 2009 Samsung SCX-4623fw laser printer, and Linux Mint had
zero trouble finding the driver. (No driver download required.) Something
that, apparently, Windows 11 can't do with this particular printer. So,
again, Linux Mint allows you to keep older equipment, while Windows enforces
its obsolescence.

I'll probably install LM 22 on my one of my computers and give it a decent
test.

If anyone else is interested in this Linux Mint beta, you can download it
here...

https://mirrors.nic.cz/linuxmint-cd/testing/

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entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:

>If you want to combine "cutting edge" and Linux Mint, this is about as close
>as you'll come to it — the first version of a new major point release beta.
>It's using kernel 6.8.0-35 and Cinnamon 6.2.2. LibreOffice is at 24.3...
>something. I forgot to write the exact release. So, as mentioned in the
>subject line, it's currently "cutting edge" but it probably won't be when
>Linux Mint 22 is released.
>
>On my computer it's using Xorg. I don't know what it would default to on a
>more modern computer. I ran Neofetch and took a screenshot. (This is one of
>the wallpapers that currently is included with this LM release named
>"Wilma.")
>
>https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Lod6bGzCJ6-RO-Txt8Q-Fjq9SvMM8Ry8/view?usp=sharing
>
>What I tested worked well. I installed Trelby 2.4.9, which stalled because
>it needed ReportLab. Fortunately python3-reportlab was available and easy to
>install, and Trelby took right off. So it looks like Trelby will work for a
>few more years. (Minor for most people but a big deal for me. And not bad
>for an application released in 2012 where the developers walked away from it
>in the same year — since it's open source, others upgraded it for newer
>versions of Python and associated files, but didn't much else.)
>
>I installed my 2009 Samsung SCX-4623fw laser printer, and Linux Mint had
>zero trouble finding the driver. (No driver download required.) Something
>that, apparently, Windows 11 can't do with this particular printer. So,
>again, Linux Mint allows you to keep older equipment, while Windows enforces
>its obsolescence.
>
>I'll probably install LM 22 on my one of my computers and give it a decent
>test.
>
>If anyone else is interested in this Linux Mint beta, you can download it
>here...
>
>https://mirrors.nic.cz/linuxmint-cd/testing/

Interesting, I don't do betas, but it's good to get a glimpse of
what's coming up.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote at 18:28 this Friday (GMT):
> RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>If you want to combine "cutting edge" and Linux Mint, this is about as close
>>as you'll come to it — the first version of a new major point release beta.
>>It's using kernel 6.8.0-35 and Cinnamon 6.2.2. LibreOffice is at 24.3...
>>something. I forgot to write the exact release. So, as mentioned in the
>>subject line, it's currently "cutting edge" but it probably won't be when
>>Linux Mint 22 is released.
>>
>>On my computer it's using Xorg. I don't know what it would default to on a
>>more modern computer. I ran Neofetch and took a screenshot. (This is one of
>>the wallpapers that currently is included with this LM release named
>>"Wilma.")
>>
>>https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Lod6bGzCJ6-RO-Txt8Q-Fjq9SvMM8Ry8/view?usp=sharing
>>
>>What I tested worked well. I installed Trelby 2.4.9, which stalled because
>>it needed ReportLab. Fortunately python3-reportlab was available and easy to
>>install, and Trelby took right off. So it looks like Trelby will work for a
>>few more years. (Minor for most people but a big deal for me. And not bad
>>for an application released in 2012 where the developers walked away from it
>>in the same year — since it's open source, others upgraded it for newer
>>versions of Python and associated files, but didn't much else.)
>>
>>I installed my 2009 Samsung SCX-4623fw laser printer, and Linux Mint had
>>zero trouble finding the driver. (No driver download required.) Something
>>that, apparently, Windows 11 can't do with this particular printer. So,
>>again, Linux Mint allows you to keep older equipment, while Windows enforces
>>its obsolescence.
>>
>>I'll probably install LM 22 on my one of my computers and give it a decent
>>test.
>>
>>If anyone else is interested in this Linux Mint beta, you can download it
>>here...
>>
>>https://mirrors.nic.cz/linuxmint-cd/testing/
>
>
> Interesting, I don't do betas, but it's good to get a glimpse of
> what's coming up.

And feedback is always useful for the devs!
--
user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom

Le 29-06-2024, candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> a écrit :
>
> And feedback is always useful for the devs!

That's not always easy to provide. There are a lot of times I would have
provided feedback but they didn't provide me an acceptable way to give
them. Let's be clear: it's open source, so they do what they want and
they own me nothing. So they do what they want and I don't criticize
their choices. But, I do what I want, too. So, either they really
want my feedback and they provide me an acceptable way or they don't and
ask me to adapt to their conditions. It's their choice, there is no
criticism from my part but I won't adapt.

Unfortunately, the fact is: if one want visibility for an open source
projet, one need to host the project on github. And I don't care if
people are using github to host their projects: they do what they want.
But if the only way to contribute is to open a request on the project,
it means to have an account on github and I care about that. Microsoft
owns github and I refuse to give personal information to Microsoft, so I
refuse to have a github account.

So, if the only way to provide feedback to devs is to use github, they
won't have mine. Their choice. What I mean by acceptable way is global:
I have neither a facebook account for example.

--
Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

On 2024-06-29, candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
> Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote at 18:28 this Friday (GMT):
>> RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>If you want to combine "cutting edge" and Linux Mint, this is about as close
>>>as you'll come to it — the first version of a new major point release beta.
>>>It's using kernel 6.8.0-35 and Cinnamon 6.2.2. LibreOffice is at 24.3...
>>>something. I forgot to write the exact release. So, as mentioned in the
>>>subject line, it's currently "cutting edge" but it probably won't be when
>>>Linux Mint 22 is released.
>>>
>>>On my computer it's using Xorg. I don't know what it would default to on a
>>>more modern computer. I ran Neofetch and took a screenshot. (This is one of
>>>the wallpapers that currently is included with this LM release named
>>>"Wilma.")
>>>
>>>https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Lod6bGzCJ6-RO-Txt8Q-Fjq9SvMM8Ry8/view?usp=sharing
>>>
>>>What I tested worked well. I installed Trelby 2.4.9, which stalled because
>>>it needed ReportLab. Fortunately python3-reportlab was available and easy to
>>>install, and Trelby took right off. So it looks like Trelby will work for a
>>>few more years. (Minor for most people but a big deal for me. And not bad
>>>for an application released in 2012 where the developers walked away from it
>>>in the same year — since it's open source, others upgraded it for newer
>>>versions of Python and associated files, but didn't much else.)
>>>
>>>I installed my 2009 Samsung SCX-4623fw laser printer, and Linux Mint had
>>>zero trouble finding the driver. (No driver download required.) Something
>>>that, apparently, Windows 11 can't do with this particular printer. So,
>>>again, Linux Mint allows you to keep older equipment, while Windows enforces
>>>its obsolescence.
>>>
>>>I'll probably install LM 22 on my one of my computers and give it a decent
>>>test.
>>>
>>>If anyone else is interested in this Linux Mint beta, you can download it
>>>here...
>>>
>>>https://mirrors.nic.cz/linuxmint-cd/testing/
>>
>>
>> Interesting, I don't do betas, but it's good to get a glimpse of
>> what's coming up.
>
>
> And feedback is always useful for the devs!

I installed LM 22 on an SSD that I was (not) using for storage and tried it
out for several hours. At this point I don't see any reason not to use it.
But I may run into issues along the way. So far the most challenging thing
was getting Simplenote to run. Linux Mint 22 doesn't install gconf2 by
default, which Simplenote (which hasn't been updated since October 15, 2021)
requires. A short Internet search and I found that I could install gconf2 by
adding this repository...

deb http://cz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu lunar main universe

....so I guess it was an issue with Ubuntu 23 also (and not just for
Simplenote but for other applications). You also have to add the flag
--no-sandbox to Simplenote, but it's been that way for a while now.
Hopefully Simplenote will get an update one of these years. I guess it's low
priority for Automattic who is better known for WordPress and Tumblr (and
other online applications).

At any rate I'll be giving Linux Mint 22 a good test. It should be supported
until April 2029. (Not the beta, but when it's officially released.)

--
[Self-centered, Woke] "pride is a life of self-destructive fakery, an
entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine