https://imgur.com/tpY1als

--
-v

vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:

>https://imgur.com/tpY1als

I got that easily with Mint Software Manager. Works very well. DFS
is easily impressed.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On Mon, 06 May 2024 14:29:47 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in
<ib8i3jpsn8qgcsl4l3a5lin9lan9men5t1@4ax.com>:

> vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
>
>>https://imgur.com/tpY1als
>
>
> I got that easily with Mint Software Manager. Works very well. DFS
> is easily impressed.

I don't think there was anything in his pretty gui that couldn't
be sussed-out through the Linux command line -- either by examining
/proc or /sys; or running tools like dmidecode, cpuid, lscpu, or lsmem
(to name a few).

Or, you can get really fancy:

https://www.brendangregg.com/perf.html

--
-v

vallor wrote:

>Or, you can get really fancy:
>
>https://www.brendangregg.com/perf.html

Wow, that guy is a genuine egghead! I wonder if he needed to test
that software to make sure if it worked correctly?

--
"Capability and flexibility has NOTHING to do with [why people use
Linux]." - DumFSck, lying shamelessly

On 2024-05-06 2:24 p.m., vallor wrote:
> https://imgur.com/tpY1als

Free? Nice.

--
Andrzej (Andre) Matuch
TG: @AndrzejMatuch
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king.

On 5/6/2024 2:29 PM, Joel wrote:
> vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
>
>> https://imgur.com/tpY1als
>
>
> I got that easily with Mint Software Manager. Works very well. DFS
> is easily impressed.

wtf?

See my orig pic, not Bloaty's CPU-X lameness.

https://imgur.com/a/R0ARmN0

You can stay ignorant and deprived on Linux, or you can use Windows and
enjoy the best software. It's your choice.

https://www.hwinfo.com/files/hwi64_800.exe
https://www.aida64.com/products/aida64-extreme
https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html

Linux can't compete.

On 5/6/2024 2:43 PM, vallor wrote:
> On Mon, 06 May 2024 14:29:47 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in
> <ib8i3jpsn8qgcsl4l3a5lin9lan9men5t1@4ax.com>:
>
>> vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
>>
>>> https://imgur.com/tpY1als
>>
>>
>> I got that easily with Mint Software Manager. Works very well. DFS
>> is easily impressed.
>
> I don't think there was anything in his pretty gui that couldn't
> be sussed-out through the Linux command line -- either by examining
> /proc or /sys; or running tools like dmidecode, cpuid, lscpu, or lsmem
> (to name a few).

Hours if not days of combing thru command-line output to assemble what
HWiNFO for Windows shows in 2 seconds, in a perfect and easily navigated
layout.

Have you checked out the 6,646-line hobbyware mess that 'hwinfo' gives you?

* the CPU info is printed twice (in v21.72 anyway), lines 128 and 1169.

* the tty devices in udevinfo are listed like so:

tty49
tty5
tty50

* not one mention of motherboards? wtf?

* it says I have a 3.5" floppy installed

That's what happens when 18 contributors aren't reined in, and the hobby
project has no defined goals. And it long ago should've been made into
an ncurses or gtk app with a minimal GUI.

The entire GuhNoo/Linux bizarro world can't compete with the one
Slovakian commercial developer that created HWiNFO for Windows.

> Or, you can get really fancy:
>
> https://www.brendangregg.com/perf.html

Nice profiling tools. Not meant to do what HWiNFO does, though.

DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>On 5/6/2024 2:29 PM, Joel wrote:
>> vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
>>
>>> https://imgur.com/tpY1als
>>
>> I got that easily with Mint Software Manager. Works very well. DFS
>> is easily impressed.
>
>wtf?
>
>See my orig pic, not Bloaty's CPU-X lameness.
>
>https://imgur.com/a/R0ARmN0

I saw CPU-X on my own machine, it's a remarkable utility.

>You can stay ignorant and deprived on Linux, or you can use Windows and
>enjoy the best software. It's your choice.
>
>https://www.hwinfo.com/files/hwi64_800.exe
>https://www.aida64.com/products/aida64-extreme
>https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html
>
>Linux can't compete.

I give up next to nothing by not using Windows.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>On 5/6/2024 2:43 PM, vallor wrote:
>> On Mon, 06 May 2024 14:29:47 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in
>> <ib8i3jpsn8qgcsl4l3a5lin9lan9men5t1@4ax.com>:
>>
>>> vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> https://imgur.com/tpY1als
>>>
>>> I got that easily with Mint Software Manager. Works very well. DFS
>>> is easily impressed.
>>
>> I don't think there was anything in his pretty gui that couldn't
>> be sussed-out through the Linux command line -- either by examining
>> /proc or /sys; or running tools like dmidecode, cpuid, lscpu, or lsmem
>> (to name a few).
>
>Hours if not days of combing thru command-line output to assemble what
>HWiNFO for Windows shows in 2 seconds, in a perfect and easily navigated
>layout.
>
>Have you checked out the 6,646-line hobbyware mess that 'hwinfo' gives you?
>
>* the CPU info is printed twice (in v21.72 anyway), lines 128 and 1169.
>
>* the tty devices in udevinfo are listed like so:
>
> tty49
> tty5
> tty50
>
>* not one mention of motherboards? wtf?
>
>* it says I have a 3.5" floppy installed
>
>
>That's what happens when 18 contributors aren't reined in, and the hobby
>project has no defined goals. And it long ago should've been made into
>an ncurses or gtk app with a minimal GUI.
>
>The entire GuhNoo/Linux bizarro world can't compete with the one
>Slovakian commercial developer that created HWiNFO for Windows.

CPU-X does what your utility does, probably better.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 5/6/2024 4:35 PM, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
> On 2024-05-06 2:24 p.m., vallor wrote:
>> https://imgur.com/tpY1als
>
> Free? Nice.

It's a shameless clone of the superior CPU-Z for Windows, which is also
free.

CPU-X running in Ubuntu WSL gives weird info - says my AMD 5600G
processor has 8 cores (it has 6).

On 5/6/2024 6:00 PM, Joel wrote:
> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>> On 5/6/2024 2:43 PM, vallor wrote:
>>> On Mon, 06 May 2024 14:29:47 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> <ib8i3jpsn8qgcsl4l3a5lin9lan9men5t1@4ax.com>:
>>>
>>>> vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> https://imgur.com/tpY1als
>>>>
>>>> I got that easily with Mint Software Manager. Works very well. DFS
>>>> is easily impressed.
>>>
>>> I don't think there was anything in his pretty gui that couldn't
>>> be sussed-out through the Linux command line -- either by examining
>>> /proc or /sys; or running tools like dmidecode, cpuid, lscpu, or lsmem
>>> (to name a few).
>>
>> Hours if not days of combing thru command-line output to assemble what
>> HWiNFO for Windows shows in 2 seconds, in a perfect and easily navigated
>> layout.
>>
>> Have you checked out the 6,646-line hobbyware mess that 'hwinfo' gives you?
>>
>> * the CPU info is printed twice (in v21.72 anyway), lines 128 and 1169.
>>
>> * the tty devices in udevinfo are listed like so:
>>
>> tty49
>> tty5
>> tty50
>>
>> * not one mention of motherboards? wtf?
>>
>> * it says I have a 3.5" floppy installed
>>
>>
>> That's what happens when 18 contributors aren't reined in, and the hobby
>> project has no defined goals. And it long ago should've been made into
>> an ncurses or gtk app with a minimal GUI.
>>
>> The entire GuhNoo/Linux bizarro world can't compete with the one
>> Slovakian commercial developer that created HWiNFO for Windows.
>
>
> CPU-X does what your utility does, probably better.

You're still confused.

CPU-X (Linux) is an inferior clone of CPU-Z (Windows).

HWiNFO (Windows only) is far superior to both, and to EVERY Linux app of
its kind that I've seen.

I don't know why Bloaty even brought up CPU-X; it's not in the same
league as HWiNFO.

On Mon, 6 May 2024 17:19:55 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in
<6639497b$0$6450$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:

> On 5/6/2024 2:43 PM, vallor wrote:
>> On Mon, 06 May 2024 14:29:47 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in
>> <ib8i3jpsn8qgcsl4l3a5lin9lan9men5t1@4ax.com>:
>>
>>> vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> https://imgur.com/tpY1als
>>>
>>>
>>> I got that easily with Mint Software Manager. Works very well. DFS
>>> is easily impressed.
>>
>> I don't think there was anything in his pretty gui that couldn't
>> be sussed-out through the Linux command line -- either by examining
>> /proc or /sys; or running tools like dmidecode, cpuid, lscpu, or lsmem
>> (to name a few).
>
>
> Hours if not days of combing thru command-line output to assemble what
> HWiNFO for Windows shows in 2 seconds, in a perfect and easily navigated
> layout.

Hours if not days? Exaggerate much?

You should try dmidecode -- I think it's been ported to Windows. Handy
for things like discovering what memory is installed in a machine,
including brand name, part number, and serial number.

> Have you checked out the 6,646-line hobbyware mess that 'hwinfo' gives you?

Why would I?

>
>> Or, you can get really fancy:
>>
>> https://www.brendangregg.com/perf.html
>
> Nice profiling tools. Not meant to do what HWiNFO does, though.

How much would the Windows license be for something like "perf", which
comes with the Linux kernel?

Say...when _are_ you going to try building Linux from vanilla
source? (You won't be able to build Windows from sources, of course,
because you don't *have* the sources...doesn't that *bother* you?)

You should try it at least once. Even if it won't boot, you can't
deny you'll learn something.

Or even, just download the source and poke around -- it is well laid-out.
You might even read the documentation for the mount options for the new
ntfs3 driver. Could come in handy if you ever need to get at an NTFS
volume without Windoze getting in the way.

Documentation/filesystems/ntfs3.rst

--
-v

On 2024-05-06 11:25 p.m., DFS wrote:
> On 5/6/2024 4:35 PM, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>> On 2024-05-06 2:24 p.m., vallor wrote:
>>> https://imgur.com/tpY1als
>>
>> Free? Nice.
>
>
> It's a shameless clone of the superior CPU-Z for Windows, which is also
> free.
>
> CPU-X running in Ubuntu WSL gives weird info - says my AMD 5600G
> processor has 8 cores (it has 6).

See? That's why Linux is superior. It just gave you two extra cores.
Feel the power!

--
Andrzej (Andre) Matuch
TG: @AndrzejMatuch
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king.

On 5/7/2024 8:39 AM, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
> On 2024-05-06 11:25 p.m., DFS wrote:
>> On 5/6/2024 4:35 PM, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>>> On 2024-05-06 2:24 p.m., vallor wrote:
>>>> https://imgur.com/tpY1als
>>>
>>> Free? Nice.
>>
>>
>> It's a shameless clone of the superior CPU-Z for Windows, which is
>> also free.
>>
>> CPU-X running in Ubuntu WSL gives weird info - says my AMD 5600G
>> processor has 8 cores (it has 6).
>
> See? That's why Linux is superior. It just gave you two extra cores.
> Feel the power!

You know it!

https://youtu.be/nm6DO_7px1I?t=7

On Tue, 7 May 2024 08:39:47 -0400, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote
in <v1d7fi$38ipq$1@dont-email.me>:

> On 2024-05-06 11:25 p.m., DFS wrote:
>> On 5/6/2024 4:35 PM, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>>> On 2024-05-06 2:24 p.m., vallor wrote:
>>>> https://imgur.com/tpY1als
>>>
>>> Free? Nice.
>>
>>
>> It's a shameless clone of the superior CPU-Z for Windows, which is also
>> free.
>>
>> CPU-X running in Ubuntu WSL gives weird info - says my AMD 5600G
>> processor has 8 cores (it has 6).
>
> See? That's why Linux is superior. It just gave you two extra cores.
> Feel the power!

The problem is probably with his virtual server implementation.

I assume he's using HyperV, as that's what WSL2 uses. That is
a Microsoft product.

Guess Microsoft sucks, again.

--
-v

On 5/7/2024 11:46 AM, vallor wrote:
> On Tue, 7 May 2024 08:39:47 -0400, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote
> in <v1d7fi$38ipq$1@dont-email.me>:
>
>> On 2024-05-06 11:25 p.m., DFS wrote:
>>> On 5/6/2024 4:35 PM, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>>>> On 2024-05-06 2:24 p.m., vallor wrote:
>>>>> https://imgur.com/tpY1als
>>>>
>>>> Free? Nice.
>>>
>>>
>>> It's a shameless clone of the superior CPU-Z for Windows, which is also
>>> free.
>>>
>>> CPU-X running in Ubuntu WSL gives weird info - says my AMD 5600G
>>> processor has 8 cores (it has 6).
>>
>> See? That's why Linux is superior. It just gave you two extra cores.
>> Feel the power!
>
> The problem is probably with his virtual server implementation.
>
> I assume he's using HyperV, as that's what WSL2 uses. That is
> a Microsoft product.
>
> Guess Microsoft sucks, again.

"cuynu" on GitHub https://github.com/cuynu

got mad when I reported it as an issue. He said "This should be not
issue, WSL are have limitation than Linux on real machine as it running
via HyperV AFAIK. ALSO, isn't in Windows, you can just use CPU-Z ??"

Then another tough 12-year-old GuhNoo thug
https://github.com/TheTumultuousUnicornOfDarkness
came behind to make sure I learned a lesson from the first thug.

"First of all, WSL2 runs in a Hypver-V virtual machine, and running
CPU-X in a VM will not report useful information.
And as pointed by @cuynu, just use CPU-Z on Windows."

A colorful cartoon unicorn and a cartoon 6-year-old female as avatars?
This must be GuhNoo/Linux.

(but they get credit for having 0 open issues, and 249 closed ones)

vallor wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Tue, 7 May 2024 08:39:47 -0400, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote
> in <v1d7fi$38ipq$1@dont-email.me>:
>
>> On 2024-05-06 11:25 p.m., DFS wrote:
>>> On 5/6/2024 4:35 PM, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>>>> On 2024-05-06 2:24 p.m., vallor wrote:
>>>>> https://imgur.com/tpY1als
>>>>
>>>> Free? Nice.
>>>
>>> It's a shameless clone of the superior CPU-Z for Windows, which is also
>>> free.

First he bitches about Linux not having some goddam Windoze app,
then he bitches when someone ports very similar functionality to Linux.

:-D

>>> CPU-X running in Ubuntu WSL gives weird info - says my AMD 5600G
>>> processor has 8 cores (it has 6).
>>
>> See? That's why Linux is superior. It just gave you two extra cores.
>> Feel the power!
>
> The problem is probably with his virtual server implementation.
>
> I assume he's using HyperV, as that's what WSL2 uses. That is
> a Microsoft product.
>
> Guess Microsoft sucks, again.

I used HyperV in a CASP (CompTIA Advanced Security Practioner) class;
the instructor had us running Kali Linux in it.

At work, there was talk about the Corp mandating HyperV, so I used it for
awhile. I hurried back to VirtualBox. I'm sure it's fine for certain use
cases.

--
Q: What do you call a half-dozen Indians with Asian flu?
A: Six sick Sikhs (sic).

DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>On 5/7/2024 11:46 AM, vallor wrote:
>>
>> The problem is probably with his virtual server implementation.
>>
>> I assume he's using HyperV, as that's what WSL2 uses. That is
>> a Microsoft product.
>>
>> Guess Microsoft sucks, again.
>
>"cuynu" on GitHub https://github.com/cuynu
>
>got mad when I reported it as an issue. He said "This should be not
>issue, WSL are have limitation than Linux on real machine as it running
>via HyperV AFAIK. ALSO, isn't in Windows, you can just use CPU-Z ??"
>
>Then another tough 12-year-old GuhNoo thug
>https://github.com/TheTumultuousUnicornOfDarkness
>came behind to make sure I learned a lesson from the first thug.
>
>"First of all, WSL2 runs in a Hypver-V virtual machine, and running
>CPU-X in a VM will not report useful information.
>And as pointed by @cuynu, just use CPU-Z on Windows."
>
>A colorful cartoon unicorn and a cartoon 6-year-old female as avatars?
>This must be GuhNoo/Linux.
>
>(but they get credit for having 0 open issues, and 249 closed ones)

Install Linux on bare metal and try it.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:

>>> The entire GuhNoo/Linux bizarro world can't compete with the one
>>> Slovakian commercial developer that created HWiNFO for Windows.
>>
>> CPU-X does what your utility does, probably better.
>
>You're still confused.
>
>CPU-X (Linux) is an inferior clone of CPU-Z (Windows).
>
>HWiNFO (Windows only) is far superior to both, and to EVERY Linux app of
>its kind that I've seen.
>
>I don't know why Bloaty even brought up CPU-X; it's not in the same
>league as HWiNFO.

What is better about it?

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On Mon, 6 May 2024 23:25:05 -0400, DFS wrote:

> It's a shameless clone of the superior CPU-Z for Windows, which is also
> free.

CPU-Z is only freeware, CPU-X is Free Software.

On 2024-05-08 12:56 a.m., Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Mon, 6 May 2024 23:25:05 -0400, DFS wrote:
>
>> It's a shameless clone of the superior CPU-Z for Windows, which is also
>> free.
>
> CPU-Z is only freeware, CPU-X is Free Software.

For an end user, there is no difference. Only developers would see the
latter as having an advantage.

--
Andrzej (Andre) Matuch
TG: @AndrzejMatuch
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king.

On 5/6/2024 11:46 PM, vallor wrote:
> On Mon, 6 May 2024 17:19:55 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in
> <6639497b$0$6450$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>
>> On 5/6/2024 2:43 PM, vallor wrote:
>>> On Mon, 06 May 2024 14:29:47 -0400, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> <ib8i3jpsn8qgcsl4l3a5lin9lan9men5t1@4ax.com>:
>>>
>>>> vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> https://imgur.com/tpY1als
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I got that easily with Mint Software Manager. Works very well. DFS
>>>> is easily impressed.
>>>
>>> I don't think there was anything in his pretty gui that couldn't
>>> be sussed-out through the Linux command line -- either by examining
>>> /proc or /sys; or running tools like dmidecode, cpuid, lscpu, or lsmem
>>> (to name a few).
>>
>>
>> Hours if not days of combing thru command-line output to assemble what
>> HWiNFO for Windows shows in 2 seconds, in a perfect and easily navigated
>> layout.
>
> Hours if not days? Exaggerate much?

That statement lets me know you haven't taken even a casual glance at
HWiNFO.

I seriously doubt you can use any or all Linux tools to duplicate the
info provided by HWiNFO (Windows).

> You should try dmidecode -- I think it's been ported to Windows.

https://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/dmidecode.htm

> Handy for things like discovering what memory is installed in a machine,
> including brand name, part number, and serial number.

zowie! For memory modules, HWiNFO only gives you:

--------------------------------------------------------------------

[General Information]
Total Memory Size: 16 GBytes
Total Memory Size [MB]: 16384
[Current Performance Settings]
Maximum Supported Memory Clock: Unlimited
Current Memory Clock: 1855.6 MHz
Current Timing (tCAS-tRCD-tRP-tRAS): 16-20-20-38
Memory Channels Supported: 2
Memory Channels Active: 2
Command Rate (CR): 1T
Read to Read Delay (tRDRD_SC) Same Chipselect: 1T
Read to Read Delay (tRDRD_SG/TrdrdScL) Same Bank Group: 5T
Read to Read Delay (tRDRD_SD) Same DIMM: 4T
Read to Read Delay (tRDRD_DD) Different DIMM: 4T
Write to Write Delay (tWRWR_SC) Same Chipselect: 1T
Write to Write Delay (tWRWR_SG/TwrwrScL) Same Bank Group: 5T
Write to Write Delay (tWRWR_SD) Same DIMM: 6T
Write to Write Delay (tWRWR_DD) Different DIMM: 6T
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR_SC) Same Chipselect: 10T
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR_SG/TrdwrScL) Same Bank Group: 10T
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR_DG/TrdwrScDlr) Different Bank Group: 10T
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR_SD) Same DIMM: 10T
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR_DD) Different DIMM: 10T
Write to Read Delay (tWRRD_SC) Same Chipselect: 2T
Write to Read Delay (tWRRD_SG/TwrrdScL) Same Bank Group: 2T
Write to Read Delay (tWRRD_SD) Same DIMM: 2T
Write to Read Delay (tWRRD_DD) Different DIMM: 2T
Read to Precharge Delay (tRTP): 12T
Write to Precharge Delay (tWTP): 35T
Write Recovery Time (tWR): 24T
RAS# to RAS# Delay (tRRD_L): 9T
RAS# to RAS# Delay (tRRD_S): 6T
Row Cycle Time (tRC): 75T
Refresh Cycle Time (tRFC): 560T
Four Activate Window (tFAW): 34T

Row: 2 [P0 CHANNEL A/DIMM 1] - 8 GB PC4-25600 DDR4 SDRAM Corsair
CMK16GX4M2E3200C16

[General Module Information]
Module Number: 2
Module Size: 8 GBytes
Memory Type: DDR4 SDRAM
Module Type: Unbuffered DIMM (UDIMM)
Memory Speed: 1600.0 MHz (DDR4-3200 /
PC4-25600)
Module Manufacturer: Corsair
Module Part Number: CMK16GX4M2E3200C16
Module Revision: 0.0
Module Serial Number: N/A
Module Manufacturing Date: N/A
Module Manufacturing Location: 0
SDRAM Manufacturer: Samsung
DRAM Steppping: 0.0
Error Check/Correction: None
[Module Characteristics]
Row Address Bits: 16
Column Address Bits: 10
Module Density: 8192 Mb
Number Of Ranks: 1
Number Of Bank Groups: 4
Device Width: 8 bits
Bus Width: 64 bits
Die Count: 1
Module Nominal Voltage (VDD): 1.2 V
Minimum SDRAM Cycle Time (tCKAVGmin): 0.93800 ns (1066 MHz)
Maximum SDRAM Cycle Time (tCKAVGmax): 1.50000 ns
CAS# Latencies Supported: 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14,
15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24
Minimum CAS# Latency Time (tAAmin): 13.500 ns
Minimum RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCDmin): 13.500 ns
Minimum Row Precharge Time (tRPmin): 13.500 ns
Minimum Active to Precharge Time (tRASmin): 33.000 ns
Supported Module Timing at 1066.7 MHz: 15-15-15-36
Supported Module Timing at 933.3 MHz: 13-13-13-31
Supported Module Timing at 800.0 MHz: 11-11-11-27
Supported Module Timing at 666.7 MHz: 9-9-9-22
Supported Module Timing at 533.3 MHz: 8-8-8-18
Minimum Active to Active/Refresh Time (tRCmin): 46.500 ns
Minimum Refresh Recovery Time Delay (tRFC1min): 350.000 ns
Minimum Refresh Recovery Time Delay (tRFC2min): 260.000 ns
Minimum Refresh Recovery Time Delay (tRFC4min): 160.000 ns
Minimum Four Activate Window Delay Time (tFAWmin): 21.000 ns
Minimum Active to Active Delay Time - Different Bank Group
(tRRD_Smin): 3.700 ns
Minimum Active to Active Delay Time - Same Bank Group (tRRD_Lmin):
5.300 ns
Minimum CAS to CAS Delay Time - Same Bank Group (tCCD_Lmin): 5.356 ns
[Features]
Module Temperature Sensor (TSOD): Not Supported
Module Nominal Height: 31 - 32 mm
Module Maximum Thickness (Front): 1 - 2 mm
Module Maximum Thickness (Back): 1 - 2 mm
Address Mapping from Edge Connector to DRAM: Standard
[Intel Extreme Memory Profile (XMP)]
XMP Revision: 2.0
[Certified Profile [Enabled]]
Module VDD Voltage Level: 1.35 V
Minimum SDRAM Cycle Time (tCKAVGmin): 0.62500 ns (1600 MHz)
CAS# Latencies Supported: 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14,
15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24
Minimum CAS# Latency Time (tAAmin): 10.000 ns
Minimum RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCDmin): 12.500 ns
Minimum Row Precharge Time (tRPmin): 12.500 ns
Minimum Active to Precharge Time (tRASmin): 23.750 ns
Supported Module Timing at 1600.0 MHz: 16-20-20-38
Supported Module Timing at 1466.7 MHz: 15-19-19-35
Supported Module Timing at 1333.3 MHz: 14-17-17-32
Supported Module Timing at 1200.0 MHz: 12-15-15-29
Supported Module Timing at 1066.7 MHz: 11-14-14-26
Supported Module Timing at 933.3 MHz: 10-12-12-23
Supported Module Timing at 800.0 MHz: 8-10-10-19
Supported Module Timing at 666.7 MHz: 7-9-9-16
Minimum Active to Active/Refresh Time (tRCmin): 36.250 ns
Minimum Refresh Recovery Time Delay (tRFC1min): 349.000 ns
Minimum Refresh Recovery Time Delay (tRFC2min): 259.000 ns
Minimum Refresh Recovery Time Delay (tRFC4min): 159.000 ns
Minimum Four Activate Window Delay Time (tFAWmin): 22.000 ns
Minimum Active to Active Delay Time - Different Bank Group
(tRRD_Smin): 3.750 ns
Minimum Active to Active Delay Time - Same Bank Group (tRRD_Lmin):
5.625 ns

<then the same info for each memory module>
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

HWiNFO is doomed by dmidecode -t 6

>> Have you checked out the 6,646-line hobbyware mess that 'hwinfo' gives you?
>
> Why would I?

'Cause the mission is in the name.

>>> Or, you can get really fancy:
>>>
>>> https://www.brendangregg.com/perf.html
>>
>> Nice profiling tools. Not meant to do what HWiNFO does, though.
>
> How much would the Windows license be for something like "perf", which
> comes with the Linux kernel?

It's all free on Windows.

Profiling tools with:
Visual Studio Community
Windows Performance Analyzer
Windows Assessment and Deployment Kit

And from everything I read online, the Windows tools are far superior to
perf.

> Say...when _are_ you going to try building Linux from vanilla
> source?

Good question. In 2 decades I've tried it a couple times.

> (You won't be able to build Windows from sources, of course,
> because you don't *have* the sources...doesn't that *bother* you?)

Andrzej Matuch wrote:

> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>> CPU-Z is only freeware, CPU-X is Free Software.
>
>For an end user, there is no difference. Only developers would see the
>latter as having an advantage.

Being FOSS is a bonus. It's better. It allows branching and
modifications that trickle down to end users.

It may be that most end users don't care if software is FOSS, but we
can't forget that, were it not for the FOSS model, a lot of software
would not even exist!

--
"Then a bunch of freetards with no imagination of their own can copy
the dish badly, give the dish a bad name, dilute the market and put
the original out of business." - "True Linux advocate" Hadron Quark,
attacking the FOSS model

On 2024-05-08 9:30 a.m., chrisv wrote:
> Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>
>> Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>>
>>> CPU-Z is only freeware, CPU-X is Free Software.
>>
>> For an end user, there is no difference. Only developers would see the
>> latter as having an advantage.
>
> Being FOSS is a bonus. It's better. It allows branching and
> modifications that trickle down to end users.
>
> It may be that most end users don't care if software is FOSS, but we
> can't forget that, were it not for the FOSS model, a lot of software
> would not even exist!

Agreed. I appreciated, for instance, that Thunderbird's FOSS nature
allowed for someone else to pick up the project and offer us an
alternative which doesn't require us to support Mozilla in any way.
However, most people aren't even aware of what open-source even is.

--
Andrzej (Andre) Matuch
TG: @AndrzejMatuch
Catholic, paleoconservative, Christ is king.

On 5/7/2024 3:10 PM, Joel wrote:
> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>
>>>> The entire GuhNoo/Linux bizarro world can't compete with the one
>>>> Slovakian commercial developer that created HWiNFO for Windows.
>>>
>>> CPU-X does what your utility does, probably better.
>>
>> You're still confused.
>>
>> CPU-X (Linux) is an inferior clone of CPU-Z (Windows).
>>
>> HWiNFO (Windows only) is far superior to both, and to EVERY Linux app of
>> its kind that I've seen.
>>
>> I don't know why Bloaty even brought up CPU-X; it's not in the same
>> league as HWiNFO.
>
>
> What is better about it?

I'd say every single thing, but it's not fair to compare them. CPU-X
'competes' with CPU-Z. Neither are on the level of HWiNfo.

CPU-X/CPU-Z reports the basics on CPU, cache, mobo, overall system,
graphics card, and a benchmark or two. It's plenty of system info for
an avg user.

But HWiNFO is a serious hardware info app, with extreme detail about
every component, including the BIOS. Besides having a decent GUI, it
offers lots of user settings and it outputs a well-formatted text report
that's 3500 lines including spaces and comments:

https://uploadnow.io/f/g6KkvX5

There's a similar Windows app called AIDA Extreme, but it's not free for
personal use.

Linux can't compete.