rbowman wrote:

> chrisv wrote:
>>
>> Very few people (and essentially zero companies) want to develop useful,
>> quality code that some corporation can scoop-up and incorporate into
>> their product without reciprocity. Very few want to be unpaid
>> contributors to some corporation's product.
>
>https://pro.arcgis.com/en/pro-app/3.1/arcpy/get-started/what-is-arcpy-.htm
>
>Perhaps Esri contributes to the Python project. arcgis is on Pypi but it
>is covered by the Esri Master License Agreement. The base is Python 3.9
>with many GIS specific modules but it is useless without an Esri license.
>
>This is the first example off the top of my head.

Your example supports what I wrote, of course.

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On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 11:52:32 -0500, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote
in <4b267j1ninor0bd8i8rq98v3eb85ggd6rs@4ax.com>:

> "ONLY GuhNoo and Linux compete unfairly by giving away all their work
> for free." - DumFSck, lying shamelessly

I must admit, I hadn't heard that argument from DFS.

If DFS were smart and entrepreneurial, he could try to make
a Linux distro and sell it...or, like Linux Mint, let people
have it for free, and rely on the spirit of Ubuntu to make
it donate-ware.

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vallor wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 11:52:32 -0500, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote
> in <4b267j1ninor0bd8i8rq98v3eb85ggd6rs@4ax.com>:
>
>> "ONLY GuhNoo and Linux compete unfairly by giving away all their work
>> for free." - DumFSck, lying shamelessly
>
> I must admit, I hadn't heard that argument from DFS.
>
> If DFS were smart and entrepreneurial, he could try to make
> a Linux distro and sell it...or, like Linux Mint, let people
> have it for free, and rely on the spirit of Ubuntu to make
> it donate-ware.
>
i get all my computer stuff free

Andrzej Matuch wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On 2024-06-19 8:32 a.m., DFS wrote:
>> On 6/18/2024 7:04 PM, vallor wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Posting with a Linux optimized beyond the defaults
>>> is very on-topic, since you CAN'T DO THAT WITH WINDERS(!).
>>
>>
>> Why do you have to turn it up to 11?  What was wrong with 10?
>>
>> What was wrong with the kernel you had in March, that you've already
>> replaced 3 or 4 times?
>>
>> Why are you so dissatisfied with Linux that you have to constantly
>> update it?
>>
>>
>> Aliens movie    : "Let's rock!!!"
>>
>> GuhNoo adherents: "Let's tinker!!!"
>
> He wants to update the Linux kernel because it can be optimized to run
> better on certain hardware if you know which flags to set. Additionally,
> the kernel tends to improve with each version rather than slow the
> entire system down the way the Windows and MacOS ones do.

Besides, tinkering is fun for some people. Might learn something along the way.

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On 2024-06-19 5:14 p.m., % wrote:
> vallor wrote:
>> On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 11:52:32 -0500, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote
>> in <4b267j1ninor0bd8i8rq98v3eb85ggd6rs@4ax.com>:
>>
>>> "ONLY GuhNoo and Linux compete unfairly by giving away all their work
>>> for free."  -  DumFSck, lying shamelessly
>>
>> I must admit, I hadn't heard that argument from DFS.
>>
>> If DFS were smart and entrepreneurial, he could try to make
>> a Linux distro and sell it...or, like Linux Mint, let people
>> have it for free, and rely on the spirit of Ubuntu to make
>> it donate-ware.
>>
> i get all my computer stuff free

Does it involve "girl cock" like it does for Joel Crump?

On 2024-06-19 5:17 p.m., Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> Andrzej Matuch wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On 2024-06-19 8:32 a.m., DFS wrote:
>>> On 6/18/2024 7:04 PM, vallor wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Posting with a Linux optimized beyond the defaults
>>>> is very on-topic, since you CAN'T DO THAT WITH WINDERS(!).
>>>
>>>
>>> Why do you have to turn it up to 11?  What was wrong with 10?
>>>
>>> What was wrong with the kernel you had in March, that you've already
>>> replaced 3 or 4 times?
>>>
>>> Why are you so dissatisfied with Linux that you have to constantly
>>> update it?
>>>
>>>
>>> Aliens movie    : "Let's rock!!!"
>>>
>>> GuhNoo adherents: "Let's tinker!!!"
>>
>> He wants to update the Linux kernel because it can be optimized to run
>> better on certain hardware if you know which flags to set. Additionally,
>> the kernel tends to improve with each version rather than slow the
>> entire system down the way the Windows and MacOS ones do.
>
> Besides, tinkering is fun for some people. Might learn something along the way.

That's how a lot of us learned what we did about technology in general.
Had there never been a need for my broke teenage ass to fix my computer
myself, I might not have learned anything about how the hardware works.

Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>On 2024-06-19 5:14 p.m., % wrote:
>>>
>> i get all my computer stuff free
>
>Does it involve "girl cock" like it does for Joel Crump?

What are you talking about? I paid for my computer.

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Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 08:32:31 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in
<6672cfdc$0$2422109$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:

> On 6/18/2024 7:04 PM, vallor wrote:
>
>
>> Posting with a Linux optimized beyond the defaults is very on-topic,
>> since you CAN'T DO THAT WITH WINDERS(!).
>
>
> Why do you have to turn it up to 11? What was wrong with 10?

Because 11 is faster than 10. Vroom!

(Actually, truth be told, I can't tell the difference.)

> What was wrong with the kernel you had in March, that you've already
> replaced 3 or 4 times?

It's not the latest from Linus.

> Why are you so dissatisfied with Linux that you have to constantly
> update it?

"Have you stopped beating your wife?"

Seriously though, I'm not "dissatisfied" with it,
just seeing how the newest stable kernel compiles and runs.

Who knows? I might spot another bug and once again, contribute
to Linux.

BTW: since I can't really tell any difference between the "-O2" and
"-O3 -march=native" kernels, I'm probably not going to do that
trick for the next iteration.

> Aliens movie : "Let's rock!!!"
>
> GuhNoo adherents: "Let's tinker!!!"

Cute, but that makes no sense in this context.

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vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote at 22:00 this Tuesday (GMT):
> On Mon, 17 Jun 2024 23:27:18 -0400, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in
><6670fe94$0$989$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>
>> On 6/16/2024 8:04 PM, vallor wrote:
>>>> On 6/16/2024 4:19 AM, vallor wrote:
>>>>>> On Jun 15, 2024 at 3:20:19 PM EDT, "Farley Flud" <ff@linux.rocks>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 15 Jun 2024 14:29:04 +0000, Farley Flud wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Write a C program to compute the subfactorial of an integer N.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nobody got it (as predicted).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because no one bothered.
>>>>>
>>>>> I actually took the opportunity to install the GMP documentation on
>>>>> my system, look up what a "subfactorial" is, and do an implementation
>>>>> that works for !N where N is 0 through 50.
>>>>
>>>> Where's your code?
>>>
>>> https://github.com/vallor/subfactorial/
>>
>> 100 LOC, incl a makefile and a README, copyrighted and released to the
>> public under the MIT license?
>
> Obviously, you've not set up a repo on github.
>
> What does the README say? "needs GMP" or something like that.
>
> It also asks you for a license. In a split-second decision,
> I picked "MIT".

License in GitHub is optional. I know I have plenty of repos without a
license defined.

>> ha! VERY FOSS cheesy!
>
> Nobody cares, it's a trivial exercise.
>
>> Always release your non-commercial code to the public domain.
>
> Depends on the code.

hm
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Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote at 22:31 this Tuesday (GMT):
> On 18 Jun 2024 22:00:28 GMT, vallor wrote:
>
>>
>> Obviously, you've not set up a repo on github.
>>
>> What does the README say? "needs GMP" or something like that.
>>
>> It also asks you for a license. In a split-second decision,
>> I picked "MIT".
>>
>
> That's no surprise with the Microslop-owned github.
>
> The author of the code should always control how it is
> published, and not the repository.
>
> It is recommended to use gitlab instead of github but I wonder
> if the practice there is any different.
>
> But anyone serious about presenting FOSS code should simply
> have his own web site.

It's sometimes expensive to buy a domain and run a site, and most site
hosts aren't the best. neocities is good from what ive used tho
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vallor wrote:

> some dumb fsck wrote:
>>
>> Aliens movie : "Let's rock!!!"
>>
>> GuhNoo adherents: "Let's tinker!!!"

Attention starved losers: "Let's troll!!!"

> Cute, but that makes no sense in this context.

Assholes can be "cute"? Some loser, pretending to sit in judgement of
how others choose to spend their time, looks pathetic, to me.

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vallor wrote:

>> "ONLY GuhNoo and Linux compete unfairly by giving away all their work
>> for free." - DumFSck, lying shamelessly
>
>I must admit, I hadn't heard that argument from DFS.

Don't forget, besides the assholish, clearly false "unfair" argument,
there is also the "only" lie.

>If DFS were smart and entrepreneurial,

and not a worthless POS,

>he could try to make
>a Linux distro and sell it...or, like Linux Mint, let people
>have it for free, and rely on the spirit of Ubuntu to make
>it donate-ware.

That dumb fsck has argued that there is a "seedy", "freeloading"
shortcut to success, "slapping a logo on others work, then selling and
supporting it".

If there's a way to "freeload" your way to success, why doesn't he?
Why doesn't everyone? There's no need to provide a product or service
at a competitive value! Just slap your logo on other's work!

Like I said. A worthless POS.

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considering how much money they make freeloading off the "community"
that did nearly all the development." - some dumb fsck

Le 17-06-2024, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> a écrit :
>
> I don't think

For once, I fully agree with you.

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Le 20-06-2024, candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> a écrit :
>
> It's sometimes expensive to buy a domain

If you choose wisely your tld, it's not.

> and run a site,

You only need to have a computer running 24/7, there is nothing
expensive with that. Now, if you have millions visitors, it's not
enough, but when you create a new website, you don't have million
visitors during the night.

> and most site hosts aren't the best.

What does that mean? When you create your own website, either you host
it or you ask someone else to host it but it's the same. You can host
your gitlab instance at home or use gitlab instance, it won't change
anything for it's quality.

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Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote at 09:34 this Saturday (GMT):
> Le 20-06-2024, candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> a écrit :
>>
>> It's sometimes expensive to buy a domain
>
> If you choose wisely your tld, it's not.

I said sometimes

>> and run a site,
>
> You only need to have a computer running 24/7, there is nothing
> expensive with that. Now, if you have millions visitors, it's not
> enough, but when you create a new website, you don't have million
> visitors during the night.

Isn't there security issues with that tho?

>> and most site hosts aren't the best.
>
> What does that mean? When you create your own website, either you host
> it or you ask someone else to host it but it's the same. You can host
> your gitlab instance at home or use gitlab instance, it won't change
> anything for it's quality.

I was more referring to the "interactive website makers" like GSites
with this, sorry ^^
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Le 23-06-2024, candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> a écrit :
> Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote at 09:34 this Saturday (GMT):
>> Le 20-06-2024, candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> a écrit :
>>>
>>> It's sometimes expensive to buy a domain
>>
>> If you choose wisely your tld, it's not.
>
> I said sometimes

What I mean is, as you are free to chose what you want, it's your choice
to have something expensive or not. So, the price is a reason to chose
your tld, not a reason to chose to host your website.

>> You only need to have a computer running 24/7, there is nothing
>> expensive with that. Now, if you have millions visitors, it's not
>> enough, but when you create a new website, you don't have million
>> visitors during the night.
>
> Isn't there security issues with that tho?

Yes, there are, if you have a simple website well isolated, you can be
safe. If you have a bloated not understood website, there are. But the
security issues shouldn't be a concern only if you host your website. If
your website has security issues, it will be broken, even if it's not
running in your personal computer.

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