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Subject: Linux Desktop. Why No One Wants It.
From: Farley Flud
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Gentoo released a new version of its Live GUI USB:

https://distfiles.gentoo.org/releases/amd64/autobuilds/20240407T165048Z/livegui-amd64-20240407T165048Z.iso

Just dd to a thumb drive and check it out.

I did and what did I see?

The Live GUI is based on KDE and the first thing that greeted me
was this:

"The KDE mascot Konqui welcomes you ..."

A "cutesy" icon of some silly animal was situated on top.

What the fuck is this juvenile bullshit? Saturday morning cartoons?

But that was far from all. The backdrop was a fuzzy mountain range
with an azure twilight sky.

WTF! Listen, assholes! The twilight sky is NOT azure!!!

The whole thing looked like a very, very poor imitation of Microslop
Winblows, right down to the hokey bottom bar to the insipid and colorless,
super-diluted pastel, and border-less windows.

It was enough to make me almost puke.

I can only imagine the reaction of first-time Linux users
when they see this junk. They would not be at all impressed.
They would just walk away.

I've never experienced the GNOME DE but it must be just
as juvenile and listless.

With GUI interfaces that look like they were designed
by retarded children attempting to clone Microslop,
Linux will NEVER attract desktop users. NEVER.

GNU/Linux is a PROFESSIONAL OS. My FVWM3 GUI looks
like a pro interface, and other WMs look pro as well.

But KDE/GNOME? The local kindergarten could do better.

Subject: Re: Linux Desktop. Why No One Wants It.
From: Yaxley Peaks
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WTF are you on about?
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Subject: Re: Linux Desktop. Why No One Wants It.
From: Diego Garcia
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On Sat, 04 May 2024 21:17:56 +0530, Yaxley Peaks wrote:

> WTF are you on about?

It must be a KDE developer.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

Subject: Re: Linux Desktop. Why No One Wants It.
From: Joel
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Date: Sat, 4 May 2024 16:17 UTC
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Diego Garcia <dg@chaos.rocks> wrote:

>It must be a KDE developer.
>
>Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

KDE's text editor is a godsend, not my primary one, but for searching
large files.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Subject: Re: Linux Desktop. Why No One Wants It.
From: rbowman
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On Sat, 04 May 2024 15:28:49 +0000, Farley Flud wrote:

> Gentoo released a new version of its Live GUI USB:
>
> https://distfiles.gentoo.org/releases/amd64/autobuilds/20240407T165048Z/
livegui-amd64-20240407T165048Z.iso
>
> Just dd to a thumb drive and check it out.
>
> I did and what did I see?
>
> The Live GUI is based on KDE and the first thing that greeted me was
> this:
>
> "The KDE mascot Konqui welcomes you ..."
>
> A "cutesy" icon of some silly animal was situated on top.
>
> What the fuck is this juvenile bullshit? Saturday morning cartoons?

That must be your beloved Gentoo. I had to google for Konqui to find out
what it is despite using several KDE based distros including the current
Fedora 40 KDE spin.

The default wallpaper on my machine is a trail winding through a forest.
If I replaced it with one of my photos it would be very similar, although
not a hardwood forest.

Subject: Re: Linux Desktop. Why No One Wants It.
From: vallor
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On Sat, 04 May 2024 15:28:49 +0000, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote in
<17cc52bcdcc5a36a$57923$2329237$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com>:

> GNU/Linux is a PROFESSIONAL OS. My FVWM3 GUI looks like a pro
> interface,
> and other WMs look pro as well.

Your GUI doesn't look like anything -- it's a black screen.

--
-v

Subject: Re: Linux Desktop. Why No One Wants It.
From: Stéphane CARPENTIER
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Le 04-05-2024, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> a écrit :
> On Sat, 04 May 2024 15:28:49 +0000, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote in
><17cc52bcdcc5a36a$57923$2329237$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com>:
>
>> GNU/Linux is a PROFESSIONAL OS. My FVWM3 GUI looks like a pro
>> interface,
>> and other WMs look pro as well.
>
> Your GUI doesn't look like anything -- it's a black screen.

He should change the color of the background to blue. Like that it would
look like a BSOD and no one would be able to see when it's broken.

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Le 04-05-2024, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> a écrit :
>
> The Live GUI is based on KDE and the first thing that greeted me
> was this:
> [/SNIP/]
> WTF! Listen, assholes! The twilight sky is NOT azure!!!

Two things:
- First, the Gentoo maintainers aren't here, so your message is, like
you, useless.
- Second, are you unable to do what everyone does? I mean, changing the
picture of your background? That would explain the empty black screen
you display.

> It was enough to make me almost puke.

As I remember, you shit in your basement, so if you puke at the same
time, it should very unhealthy. Is it your way to keep your mother far
away from it?

> I can only imagine the reaction of first-time Linux users
> when they see this junk. They would not be at all impressed.
> They would just walk away.

The first time Linux users aren't looking at the picture of the
background for hours. They try to use Linux, so they open applications
and the background is hidden by the applications. So it doesn't matter
that much. Except on your computer where you are so surprised when it
works that you're afraid to open anything. And the background is the
only thing that matters on your computer. I'm surprised to see you never
managed to put something that suits you. Like a picture of you puking or
shitting. Or a picture of your pet dog the terrorist.

> I've never experienced the GNOME DE but it must be just
> as juvenile and listless.

With Gnome, like with KDE, you can change the background. So the choice
of the background by the end-users can't be blamed on the Gnome and KDE
devs. And your inability to change the defaults of your distro, when
everyone else in the world can, provide more insight of your limitation
than of the tastes of the distro maintainers.

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From: vallor
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On 05 May 2024 07:56:24 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote
in <66373ba8$0$10516$426a74cc@news.free.fr>:

> Le 04-05-2024, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> a écrit :
>> On Sat, 04 May 2024 15:28:49 +0000, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote
>> in
>><17cc52bcdcc5a36a$57923$2329237$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com>:
>>
>>> GNU/Linux is a PROFESSIONAL OS. My FVWM3 GUI looks like a pro
>>> interface,
>>> and other WMs look pro as well.
>>
>> Your GUI doesn't look like anything -- it's a black screen.
>
> He should change the color of the background to blue. Like that it would
> look like a BSOD and no one would be able to see when it's broken.

He could run the "bsod" hack from xscreensaver on his root
window...

--
-v

Subject: Re: Linux Desktop. Why No One Wants It.
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On Sun, 5 May 2024 17:47:47 -0000 (UTC), vallor wrote:

>
> He could run the "bsod" hack from xscreensaver on his root
> window...
>

Nope. I don't have xscreensaver installed.

I don't want xscreensaver; therefore I don't have xscreensaver.

Unlike a lackey such as you, I am not at the mercy of a distro for
what is or what is not included on my system.

_I_ am in total, absolute control of even the tiniest aspect.

Don't _you_ wish that _you_ had that power?

Maybe some day.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

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Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote at 17:56 this Sunday (GMT):
> On Sun, 5 May 2024 17:47:47 -0000 (UTC), vallor wrote:
>
>>
>> He could run the "bsod" hack from xscreensaver on his root
>> window...
>>
>
> Nope. I don't have xscreensaver installed.
>
> I don't want xscreensaver; therefore I don't have xscreensaver.
>
> Unlike a lackey such as you, I am not at the mercy of a distro for
> what is or what is not included on my system.
>
> _I_ am in total, absolute control of even the tiniest aspect.
>
> Don't _you_ wish that _you_ had that power?
>
> Maybe some day.
>
> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

I had to manually install it. It wasn't preinstalled.
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From: vallor@cultnix.org (vallor)
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Subject: Re: Linux Desktop. Why No One Wants It.
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On Sun, 05 May 2024 17:56:05 +0000, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote in
<17cca95ab52d49a8$68280$2653240$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com>:

> On Sun, 5 May 2024 17:47:47 -0000 (UTC), vallor wrote:
>
>
>> He could run the "bsod" hack from xscreensaver on his root window...
>>
>>
> Nope. I don't have xscreensaver installed.
>
> I don't want xscreensaver; therefore I don't have xscreensaver.
>
> Unlike a lackey such as you, I am not at the mercy of a distro for what
> is or what is not included on my system.
>
> _I_ am in total, absolute control of even the tiniest aspect.
>
> Don't _you_ wish that _you_ had that power?
>
> Maybe some day.
>
> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

Man, you're tedious.

$ type xscreensaver
xscreensaver is /usr/local/bin/xscreensaver

Are you always this stupid? Why yes, yes you are.

"Ha ha ha ha ha ha" etc.

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Subject: Re: Linux Desktop. Why No One Wants It.
From: DFS
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Sun, 5 May 2024 19:17 UTC
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On 5/5/2024 1:56 PM, Lying' Larry Piet wrote:

> _I_ am in total, absolute control of even the tiniest aspect.

The HELL you are.

You're running many millions of lines of code you never even glanced at,
that's doing God knows what, while you grin obliviously at your GuhNoo
crapbox, unaware that it might be sending whatever info it wants back to
whichever apps want it.

Such as cooledit, which unbeknownst to you sent your machine
architecture back to the developer Seth Woolley.

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Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote at 07:56 this Sunday (GMT):
> Le 04-05-2024, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> a écrit :
>> On Sat, 04 May 2024 15:28:49 +0000, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote in
>><17cc52bcdcc5a36a$57923$2329237$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com>:
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>>> GNU/Linux is a PROFESSIONAL OS. My FVWM3 GUI looks like a pro
>>> interface,
>>> and other WMs look pro as well.
>>
>> Your GUI doesn't look like anything -- it's a black screen.
>
> He should change the color of the background to blue. Like that it would
> look like a BSOD and no one would be able to see when it's broken.

That would be painful to look at, depending on the shade.
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On 2024-05-07, candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:
> Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote at 07:56 this Sunday (GMT):
>> Le 04-05-2024, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> a écrit :
>>> On Sat, 04 May 2024 15:28:49 +0000, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote in
>>><17cc52bcdcc5a36a$57923$2329237$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com>:
>>>
>>>> GNU/Linux is a PROFESSIONAL OS. My FVWM3 GUI looks like a pro
>>>> interface,
>>>> and other WMs look pro as well.
>>>
>>> Your GUI doesn't look like anything -- it's a black screen.
>>
>> He should change the color of the background to blue. Like that it would
>> look like a BSOD and no one would be able to see when it's broken.
>
>
> That would be painful to look at, depending on the shade.

I'm trying to figure out *which* Linux desktop no one supposedly wants. My
problem is I like several of them.

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entrapment to a false and self-created matrix of twisted unreality."
"It was pride that changed angels into devils..." — St. Augustine

Subject	Author
Linux Desktop. Why No One Wants It.	Farley Flud
Re: Linux Desktop. Why No One Wants It.	Yaxley Peaks
Re: Linux Desktop. Why No One Wants It.	Diego Garcia
Re: Linux Desktop. Why No One Wants It.	Joel
Re: Linux Desktop. Why No One Wants It.	rbowman
Re: Linux Desktop. Why No One Wants It.	vallor
Re: Linux Desktop. Why No One Wants It.	Stéphane CARPENTIER
Re: Linux Desktop. Why No One Wants It.	vallor
Re: Linux Desktop. Why No One Wants It.	Farley Flud
Re: Linux Desktop. Why No One Wants It.	candycanearter07
Re: Linux Desktop. Why No One Wants It.	vallor
Re: Linux Desktop. Why No One Wants It.	DFS
Re: Linux Desktop. Why No One Wants It.	candycanearter07
Re: Linux Desktop. Why No One Wants It.	RonB
Re: Linux Desktop. Why No One Wants It.	Stéphane CARPENTIER