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Subject: Nobara
From: vallor
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From: vallor@cultnix.org (vallor)
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Subject: Nobara
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Which Nobara spin to test? There are three:

Original KDE special theme
Vanilla Gnome
Vanilla KDE

?
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Subject: Re: Nobara
From: vallor
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On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 16:05:07 -0000 (UTC), vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote
in <v3q2bj$10r0j$2@dont-email.me>:

> Which Nobara spin to test? There are three:
>
> Original KDE special theme
> Vanilla Gnome
> Vanilla KDE
>
> ?

Just tried the original spin -- Wayland keeps freezing
up on me using the nouveau driver. (Never got the chance to
get it on the NVIDIA binary blob.)

Most importantly, the networking is stupid. I don't know
if that's Fedora or Nobara, but it hangs looking for a DHCP
address on my SAN connection. I configured my Synology Diskstation
to give it an address, so I got past that, and to the point
where I could set up the Internet connection semi-manually.

Also, I did see the warning about "Nobara 39" being past
end-of-life, which I assume is based on Fedora 39's timetable.

What it *has* done is inspired me to look at modern Plasma as
a desktop. I liked what I saw from the pinnable menus.

TL;DR: wait for Nobara 40.

--
-v

Subject: Re: Nobara
From: Andrzej Matuch
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On 2024-06-05 12:05 p.m., vallor wrote:
> Which Nobara spin to test? There are three:
>
> Original KDE special theme
> Vanilla Gnome
> Vanilla KDE
>
> ?

The one I used was the original KDE special theme.

Subject: Re: Nobara
From: Andrzej Matuch
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On 2024-06-05 1:25 p.m., vallor wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 16:05:07 -0000 (UTC), vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote
> in <v3q2bj$10r0j$2@dont-email.me>:
>
>> Which Nobara spin to test? There are three:
>>
>> Original KDE special theme
>> Vanilla Gnome
>> Vanilla KDE
>>
>> ?
>
> Just tried the original spin -- Wayland keeps freezing
> up on me using the nouveau driver. (Never got the chance to
> get it on the NVIDIA binary blob.)
>
> Most importantly, the networking is stupid. I don't know
> if that's Fedora or Nobara, but it hangs looking for a DHCP
> address on my SAN connection. I configured my Synology Diskstation
> to give it an address, so I got past that, and to the point
> where I could set up the Internet connection semi-manually.
>
> Also, I did see the warning about "Nobara 39" being past
> end-of-life, which I assume is based on Fedora 39's timetable.
>
> What it *has* done is inspired me to look at modern Plasma as
> a desktop. I liked what I saw from the pinnable menus.
>
> TL;DR: wait for Nobara 40.

I'll say this much: I'm glad that I'm not the only one who faced
troubles with it. It confirms that it might indeed be a problem with the
distribution itself and only itself. However, that leaves me with Fedora
alone since I would want to use the asusctl package which is developed
with Fedora in mind. I'm not convinced that Fedora will play nice with
some of my other hardware, regardless of how polished it seems to be.

Subject: Re: Nobara
From: vallor
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Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2024 01:18 UTC
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On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 15:39:56 -0400, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote
in <ja38O.39375$Inzb.1117@fx13.iad>:

> On 2024-06-05 1:25 p.m., vallor wrote:
>> On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 16:05:07 -0000 (UTC), vallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
>> wrote in <v3q2bj$10r0j$2@dont-email.me>:
>>
>>> Which Nobara spin to test? There are three:
>>>
>>> Original KDE special theme Vanilla Gnome Vanilla KDE
>>>
>>> ?
>>
>> Just tried the original spin -- Wayland keeps freezing up on me using
>> the nouveau driver. (Never got the chance to get it on the NVIDIA
>> binary blob.)
>>
>> Most importantly, the networking is stupid. I don't know if that's
>> Fedora or Nobara, but it hangs looking for a DHCP address on my SAN
>> connection. I configured my Synology Diskstation to give it an
>> address, so I got past that, and to the point where I could set up the
>> Internet connection semi-manually.
>>
>> Also, I did see the warning about "Nobara 39" being past end-of-life,
>> which I assume is based on Fedora 39's timetable.
>>
>> What it *has* done is inspired me to look at modern Plasma as a
>> desktop. I liked what I saw from the pinnable menus.
>>
>> TL;DR: wait for Nobara 40.
>
> I'll say this much: I'm glad that I'm not the only one who faced
> troubles with it. It confirms that it might indeed be a problem with the
> distribution itself and only itself. However, that leaves me with Fedora
> alone since I would want to use the asusctl package which is developed
> with Fedora in mind. I'm not convinced that Fedora will play nice with
> some of my other hardware, regardless of how polished it seems to be.

I installed asusctl on Mint for my tufbook -- there are
instructions on the asus-linux web site.

It's not a supported configuration though, and installing
from source involves adding build systems, Rust, and a bunch
of other buzzwords. I can't explain why they would make it
so you have to basically be a developer to install it on non-Fedora
systems.

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-v

Subject: Re: Nobara
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On 2024-06-05 9:18 p.m., vallor wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 15:39:56 -0400, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote
> in <ja38O.39375$Inzb.1117@fx13.iad>:
>
>> On 2024-06-05 1:25 p.m., vallor wrote:
>>> On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 16:05:07 -0000 (UTC), vallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
>>> wrote in <v3q2bj$10r0j$2@dont-email.me>:
>>>
>>>> Which Nobara spin to test? There are three:
>>>>
>>>> Original KDE special theme Vanilla Gnome Vanilla KDE
>>>>
>>>> ?
>>>
>>> Just tried the original spin -- Wayland keeps freezing up on me using
>>> the nouveau driver. (Never got the chance to get it on the NVIDIA
>>> binary blob.)
>>>
>>> Most importantly, the networking is stupid. I don't know if that's
>>> Fedora or Nobara, but it hangs looking for a DHCP address on my SAN
>>> connection. I configured my Synology Diskstation to give it an
>>> address, so I got past that, and to the point where I could set up the
>>> Internet connection semi-manually.
>>>
>>> Also, I did see the warning about "Nobara 39" being past end-of-life,
>>> which I assume is based on Fedora 39's timetable.
>>>
>>> What it *has* done is inspired me to look at modern Plasma as a
>>> desktop. I liked what I saw from the pinnable menus.
>>>
>>> TL;DR: wait for Nobara 40.
>>
>> I'll say this much: I'm glad that I'm not the only one who faced
>> troubles with it. It confirms that it might indeed be a problem with the
>> distribution itself and only itself. However, that leaves me with Fedora
>> alone since I would want to use the asusctl package which is developed
>> with Fedora in mind. I'm not convinced that Fedora will play nice with
>> some of my other hardware, regardless of how polished it seems to be.
>
> I installed asusctl on Mint for my tufbook -- there are
> instructions on the asus-linux web site.
>
> It's not a supported configuration though, and installing
> from source involves adding build systems, Rust, and a bunch
> of other buzzwords. I can't explain why they would make it
> so you have to basically be a developer to install it on non-Fedora
> systems.

Meanwhile, I can either use ASUS's ArmouryCrate app with MyASUS on my
computer to get all of the functionality I'm looking for by simply going
into the Windows Store (for MyASUS) and then pressing the ArmouryCrate
logo on my keyboard (to download ArmouryCrate). If I find both to be
bloated, I can opt for G-Helper which is kind of like asusctl for
Windows and a lot more lightweight. This last app tells me how much my
battery is discharging, allows me to set the maximum battery charge,
quickly allows me to change the power level for my processor, allows me
to enable or disable the GPU, allows me to kill any ASUS service, allows
me to download all of my hardware drivers and so on. The only thing I
can't do with it is disable the awful Modern Standby system in favour of
S3, something I do with another utility.

And I can download and configure all of these things in less time than
it would take to download what's needed and build...

Subject	Author
Nobara	vallor
Re: Nobara	vallor
Re: Nobara	Andrzej Matuch
Re: Nobara	vallor
Re: Nobara	Andrzej Matuch
Re: Nobara	Andrzej Matuch