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* The Reality Of MicroslopFarley Flud
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 +* Re: The Reality Of MicroslopAndrzej Matuch
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Subject: The Reality Of Microslop
From: Farley Flud
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Subject: The Reality Of Microslop
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From the link:

https://tech.slashdot.org/story/25/01/06/1713234/microsoft-would-really-like-you-to-stop-using-windows-10-this-year

"Windows 11 is no longer a stand-alone operating system, Windows 11 is an advertising
platform that's still stuck with the Windows NT kernel, network stack fiddledybits
liberally borrowed from BSD (while giving absolutely nothing back in return), and
a bunch of user space garbage they keep changing to try to convince you it's "NEW!".
(Which is a deception at best, rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic for most,
and outright lies, damned lies, and forced upgrades at worst.) And the TPM2.0 ruse
is complete corporate garbage."

Is any sapient human being still using that crap Microslop?

No way. Microslop serves only idiots -- and there are still plenty
of those.

Whew! As the saying goes: Never underestimate the power of stupid
people in large numbers.

GNU/Linux (excluding Debian, Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora, Arch, etc.)
caters to the enlightened portion (minority) of humanity.

--
Systemd: solving all the problems that you never knew you had.

Subject: Re: The Reality Of Microslop
From: Joel
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Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote:

>From the link:
>
>https://tech.slashdot.org/story/25/01/06/1713234/microsoft-would-really-like-you-to-stop-using-windows-10-this-year
>
>"Windows 11 is no longer a stand-alone operating system, Windows 11 is an advertising
>platform that's still stuck with the Windows NT kernel, network stack fiddledybits
>liberally borrowed from BSD (while giving absolutely nothing back in return), and
>a bunch of user space garbage they keep changing to try to convince you it's "NEW!".
>(Which is a deception at best, rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic for most,
>and outright lies, damned lies, and forced upgrades at worst.) And the TPM2.0 ruse
>is complete corporate garbage."

The Winfanboys will say just keep running Win10, as if it's a
solution, Linux is the only meaningful refuge.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Subject: Re: The Reality Of Microslop
From: Andrzej Matuch
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On 2025-01-06 18:20, Joel wrote:
> Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote:
>
>>From the link:
>>
>> https://tech.slashdot.org/story/25/01/06/1713234/microsoft-would-really-like-you-to-stop-using-windows-10-this-year
>>
>> "Windows 11 is no longer a stand-alone operating system, Windows 11 is an advertising
>> platform that's still stuck with the Windows NT kernel, network stack fiddledybits
>> liberally borrowed from BSD (while giving absolutely nothing back in return), and
>> a bunch of user space garbage they keep changing to try to convince you it's "NEW!".
>> (Which is a deception at best, rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic for most,
>> and outright lies, damned lies, and forced upgrades at worst.) And the TPM2.0 ruse
>> is complete corporate garbage."
>
>
> The Winfanboys will say just keep running Win10, as if it's a
> solution, Linux is the only meaningful refuge.

Windows users soon won't have a choice but to adopt 11 if they want to
continue using updates. I imagine that a lot of them will upgrade, but
those who like their machines or don't have the money to upgrade might
consider Linux for the first time. It might be a good idea to be
available to them when they inevitably face a few hurdles in their
adoption of the new operating system.

--
Andrzej (Andre) Matuch
Telegram: @AndrzejMatuch
Zephyrus G14 GA401QM on Fedora 41
KDE supporting member

Subject: Re: The Reality Of Microslop
From: rbowman
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On Mon, 06 Jan 2025 18:20:42 -0500, Joel wrote:

> Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote:
>
>>From the link:
>>
>>https://tech.slashdot.org/story/25/01/06/1713234/microsoft-would-really-
like-you-to-stop-using-windows-10-this-year
>>
>>"Windows 11 is no longer a stand-alone operating system, Windows 11 is
>>an advertising platform that's still stuck with the Windows NT kernel,
>>network stack fiddledybits liberally borrowed from BSD (while giving
>>absolutely nothing back in return), and a bunch of user space garbage
>>they keep changing to try to convince you it's "NEW!".
>>(Which is a deception at best, rearranging the deck chairs on the
>>Titanic for most,
>>and outright lies, damned lies, and forced upgrades at worst.) And the
>>TPM2.0 ruse is complete corporate garbage."
>
>
> The Winfanboys will say just keep running Win10, as if it's a solution,
> Linux is the only meaningful refuge.

https://www.theregister.com/2025/01/06/microsoft_2025_windows_refresh/

Buying a Windows 11 box and reverting it to 10 is a bit extreme.

"Canalys analyst Kieren Jessop even told The Register in an earlier
interview that it wasn't uncommon for enterprises to "downgrade their
newly procured Win11 devices to Win10" because the aging OS was more
stable and had greater compatibility with other systems."

Other than a couple of Insider builds I haven't had problems will 11. I
brought my two work machines up to 24H2 with no drama.

Along those lines I upgraded the Fedora box to 41 with no problem after
fixing a nagging little quirk. I had installed Fedora on the HDD and moved
it to the new SSD. On a reboot it was a crapshoot what I would wind up
with. I unplugged the HDD's SATA cable and all was good. One of the
stranger features was sometimes having the HDD sda3 mounted as /home,
sometimes the SSD sdb3.

I do not consider that a Fedora or Linux problem, only a weird hardware
problem I created myself.

Subject: Re: The Reality Of Microslop
From: Joel
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Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>On 2025-01-06 18:20, Joel wrote:
>> Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote:
>>
>>>From the link:
>>>
>>> https://tech.slashdot.org/story/25/01/06/1713234/microsoft-would-really-like-you-to-stop-using-windows-10-this-year
>>>
>>> "Windows 11 is no longer a stand-alone operating system, Windows 11 is an advertising
>>> platform that's still stuck with the Windows NT kernel, network stack fiddledybits
>>> liberally borrowed from BSD (while giving absolutely nothing back in return), and
>>> a bunch of user space garbage they keep changing to try to convince you it's "NEW!".
>>> (Which is a deception at best, rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic for most,
>>> and outright lies, damned lies, and forced upgrades at worst.) And the TPM2.0 ruse
>>> is complete corporate garbage."
>>
>> The Winfanboys will say just keep running Win10, as if it's a
>> solution, Linux is the only meaningful refuge.
>
>Windows users soon won't have a choice but to adopt 11 if they want to
>continue using updates. I imagine that a lot of them will upgrade, but
>those who like their machines or don't have the money to upgrade might
>consider Linux for the first time. It might be a good idea to be
>available to them when they inevitably face a few hurdles in their
>adoption of the new operating system.

We will help if people get woke to Linux.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Subject: Re: The Reality Of Microslop
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On 2025-01-06 19:37, Joel wrote:
> Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote:
>> On 2025-01-06 18:20, Joel wrote:
>>> Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote:
>>>
>>> >From the link:
>>>>
>>>> https://tech.slashdot.org/story/25/01/06/1713234/microsoft-would-really-like-you-to-stop-using-windows-10-this-year
>>>>
>>>> "Windows 11 is no longer a stand-alone operating system, Windows 11 is an advertising
>>>> platform that's still stuck with the Windows NT kernel, network stack fiddledybits
>>>> liberally borrowed from BSD (while giving absolutely nothing back in return), and
>>>> a bunch of user space garbage they keep changing to try to convince you it's "NEW!".
>>>> (Which is a deception at best, rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic for most,
>>>> and outright lies, damned lies, and forced upgrades at worst.) And the TPM2.0 ruse
>>>> is complete corporate garbage."
>>>
>>> The Winfanboys will say just keep running Win10, as if it's a
>>> solution, Linux is the only meaningful refuge.
>>
>> Windows users soon won't have a choice but to adopt 11 if they want to
>> continue using updates. I imagine that a lot of them will upgrade, but
>> those who like their machines or don't have the money to upgrade might
>> consider Linux for the first time. It might be a good idea to be
>> available to them when they inevitably face a few hurdles in their
>> adoption of the new operating system.
>
>
> We will help if people get woke to Linux.

Awakened, not woke. Woke is synonymous with mental retardation whereas
awakened means that they were sleeping and are now conscious.

--
Andrzej (Andre) Matuch
Telegram: @AndrzejMatuch
Zephyrus G14 GA401QM on Fedora 41
KDE supporting member

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