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Subject: NYC to turn into giant parking lot as commuters seek to avoid massive new toll.
From: John Smyth
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From: smythlejon2@hotmail.com (John Smyth)
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Subject: NYC to turn into giant parking lot as commuters seek to avoid massive new toll.
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Another brilliant maneuver by lefty Gov Hocul. Businesses are moving out
of NYC and she wants to encourage those still remaining to relocate as
well.
Do democrats have any common sense?

'NYC to turn into giant parking lot as commuters seek to avoid massive
new toll.'

<https://nypost.com/2025/01/05/us-news/nyc-congestion-tolls-will-put-the-screws-on-outer-boroughs-critics/>

'Congestion toll chaos will push commuters to ditch their cars in
northern Manhattan, outer boroughs: ‘New park-and-ride’'

'The invasion of the Bridge and Tunnel crowd won’t just be on weekends
anymore.

Commuters to the Big Apple will be turning neighborhoods across the city
into their own personal parking lots beginning this week, ditching their
rides to save their wallets because of the $9 congestion pricing plan,
concerned residents told The Post.

The plan is expected to upend neighborhoods closest to the 60th Street
tolling zone with nightmarish gridlock as a surge of drivers begin
scouring for free parking spots.'

'“Parking is already very much an issue. We have nine hospitals in our
district, and many of them are north of 60th Street,” said Upper East
Sider Valerie Mason, a member of New Yorkers Against Congestion Pricing
Tax, a group suing to stop the scheme.

Hospital workers and visitors already eat up the majority of the nabe’s
street parking, she added.'

'“We’re also very concerned that [the toll] will cause a huge amount of
traffic and more cars trying to park north of the [59th Street Bridge],”
Mason said.

The Upper West Side and Harlem are also expected to get slammed — a
problem when parking spaces are already a precious commodity.'

'East Harlem is already plagued by congestion from out-of-town traffic
taking up parking spots before heading south in the borough — because
it’s faster than using the FDR Drive, said Xavier Santiago, chairman of
Manhattan Community Board 11. He predicted the parking crisis “will
continue to escalate” with congestion pricing.

The outer boroughs are also panicking.

Communities such as Long Island City in Queens, the South Bronx, and
ritzy Carroll Gardens, Cobble Hill and Park Slope in Brooklyn are
fearing their quality of life will be uprooted – not only by their own
drivers but also those schlepping to the Big Apple from New Jersey,
upstate New York, Long Island and Staten Island.'

'My constituents who still have no real public transit connection to
Manhattan are looking forward to treating the posh, transit-rich,
gentrified, brownstone Brooklyn as their new park-and-ride,” quipped NYC
Council Minority Leader Joe Borelli (R-Staten Island), when asked about
the tolling scheme pushed by Gov. Kathy Hochul and other left wing
Democrats.

Borelli and other critics of the plan claim it will bring more air and
noise pollution to the outer boroughs – including parts of The Bronx and
Staten Island — as drivers look to avoid the toll.

Genevieve Giuliano, a professor specializing in urban transportation at
USC’s Price School of Public Policy, expects motorists to spend the next
few months “experimenting” with new routes to decide whether they’re
better off paying the tolls, relying on mass transit or chasing free
parking.

“Can you imagine doing” a drive-to-subway commute “every day?” said
Giuliano. “Because some days the parking spots might be there; other
days they might not.”'

'Ultimately, many commuters want to spend as little time as possible on
NYC’s crime-ridden subway system — warned Jim Walden, a lawyer running
for mayor — so expect them to relentlessly drive around the outer
boroughs looking for prized parking spots.

“My friends on the far left really don’t care about the outer boroughs,”
said Walden, a moderate independent. “They’re creating less congestion
in Manhattan [with the tolls] and more congestion everywhere else.”

Kathryn Freed, a retired state Supreme Court justice and former Lower
East Side councilwoman, is expecting the worst.

“People are going to do whatever they can to avoid [the toll],” Freed
said.'

'And that means a toll camera on 1st Avenue between East 60 and 61st
streets could bring traffic chaos. Motorists getting off the Queensboro
Bridge planning to head north will be hit with a charge if they take the
lower level to 1st Avenue.

But the upper exit to East 62nd street will bypass the charge — creating
a potential choke point as drivers try to avoid the toll. '

'Meanwhile, online entrepreneurs have long been hawking license-plate
covers for motorists trying to dodge toll machines and traffic cameras,
but the state-run MTA has warned it plans to crack down harder on rogue
riders once congestion pricing is in effect.

There is at least one cheat code available.

Video shared on social media in April exposed a potential hack to beat a
toll camera on West End Avenue by driving the wrong way through a
one-way, one lane parking garage on the toll-zone border — with an
entrance on 60th Street and an exit on 61st Street.'

'A manager at the Sessanta Garage, who identified himself as “Sergio,”
told The Post the business “is aware of the issue” and plans to
eventually install barricades to avoid “head-on collisions” involving
toll evaders.

“We’ve just been waiting to see if this congestion pricing really goes
into effect or not,” he said last week.

The MTA declined to comment.'

Subject: Re: NYC to turn into giant parking lot as commuters seek to avoid massive new toll.
From: Too Damned Funny!
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On 1/5/2025 3:29 PM, John Smyth wrote:
> Another brilliant maneuver by lefty Gov Hocul. Businesses are moving out
> of NYC and she wants to encourage those still remaining to relocate as
> well.
> Do democrats have any common sense?
>
> 'NYC to turn into giant parking lot as commuters seek to avoid massive
> new toll.'
>
> <https://nypost.com/2025/01/05/us-news/nyc-congestion-tolls-will-put-the-screws-on-outer-boroughs-critics/>
>
> 'Congestion toll chaos will push commuters to ditch their cars in
> northern Manhattan, outer boroughs: ‘New park-and-ride’'
>
> 'The invasion of the Bridge and Tunnel crowd won’t just be on weekends
> anymore.
>
> Commuters to the Big Apple will be turning neighborhoods across the city
> into their own personal parking lots beginning this week, ditching their
> rides to save their wallets because of the $9 congestion pricing plan,
> concerned residents told The Post.
>
> The plan is expected to upend neighborhoods closest to the 60th Street
> tolling zone with nightmarish gridlock as a surge of drivers begin
> scouring for free parking spots.'
>
> '“Parking is already very much an issue. We have nine hospitals in our
> district, and many of them are north of 60th Street,” said Upper East
> Sider Valerie Mason, a member of New Yorkers Against Congestion Pricing
> Tax, a group suing to stop the scheme.
>
> Hospital workers and visitors already eat up the majority of the nabe’s
> street parking, she added.'
>
> '“We’re also very concerned that [the toll] will cause a huge amount of
> traffic and more cars trying to park north of the [59th Street Bridge],”
> Mason said.
>
> The Upper West Side and Harlem are also expected to get slammed — a
> problem when parking spaces are already a precious commodity.'
>
> 'East Harlem is already plagued by congestion from out-of-town traffic
> taking up parking spots before heading south in the borough — because
> it’s faster than using the FDR Drive, said Xavier Santiago, chairman of
> Manhattan Community Board 11. He predicted the parking crisis “will
> continue to escalate” with congestion pricing.
>
> The outer boroughs are also panicking.
>
> Communities such as Long Island City in Queens, the South Bronx, and
> ritzy Carroll Gardens, Cobble Hill and Park Slope in Brooklyn are
> fearing their quality of life will be uprooted – not only by their own
> drivers but also those schlepping to the Big Apple from New Jersey,
> upstate New York, Long Island and Staten Island.'
>
> 'My constituents who still have no real public transit connection to
> Manhattan are looking forward to treating the posh, transit-rich,
> gentrified, brownstone Brooklyn as their new park-and-ride,” quipped NYC
> Council Minority Leader Joe Borelli (R-Staten Island), when asked about
> the tolling scheme pushed by Gov. Kathy Hochul and other left wing
> Democrats.
>
> Borelli and other critics of the plan claim it will bring more air and
> noise pollution to the outer boroughs – including parts of The Bronx and
> Staten Island — as drivers look to avoid the toll.
>
> Genevieve Giuliano, a professor specializing in urban transportation at
> USC’s Price School of Public Policy, expects motorists to spend the next
> few months “experimenting” with new routes to decide whether they’re
> better off paying the tolls, relying on mass transit or chasing free
> parking.
>
> “Can you imagine doing” a drive-to-subway commute “every day?” said
> Giuliano. “Because some days the parking spots might be there; other
> days they might not.”'
>
> 'Ultimately, many commuters want to spend as little time as possible on
> NYC’s crime-ridden subway system — warned Jim Walden, a lawyer running
> for mayor — so expect them to relentlessly drive around the outer
> boroughs looking for prized parking spots.
>
> “My friends on the far left really don’t care about the outer boroughs,”
> said Walden, a moderate independent. “They’re creating less congestion
> in Manhattan [with the tolls] and more congestion everywhere else.”
>
> Kathryn Freed, a retired state Supreme Court justice and former Lower
> East Side councilwoman, is expecting the worst.
>
> “People are going to do whatever they can to avoid [the toll],” Freed
> said.'
>
> 'And that means a toll camera on 1st Avenue between East 60 and 61st
> streets could bring traffic chaos. Motorists getting off the Queensboro
> Bridge planning to head north will be hit with a charge if they take the
> lower level to 1st Avenue.
>
> But the upper exit to East 62nd street will bypass the charge — creating
> a potential choke point as drivers try to avoid the toll. '
>
> 'Meanwhile, online entrepreneurs have long been hawking license-plate
> covers for motorists trying to dodge toll machines and traffic cameras,
> but the state-run MTA has warned it plans to crack down harder on rogue
> riders once congestion pricing is in effect.
>
> There is at least one cheat code available.
>
> Video shared on social media in April exposed a potential hack to beat a
> toll camera on West End Avenue by driving the wrong way through a
> one-way, one lane parking garage on the toll-zone border — with an
> entrance on 60th Street and an exit on 61st Street.'
>
> 'A manager at the Sessanta Garage, who identified himself as “Sergio,”
> told The Post the business “is aware of the issue” and plans to
> eventually install barricades to avoid “head-on collisions” involving
> toll evaders.
>
> “We’ve just been waiting to see if this congestion pricing really goes
> into effect or not,” he said last week.
>
> The MTA declined to comment.'

Hochul is DEI incarnate and proof that liberals fail to consider the end
results of their decision making.

Subject: Re: NYC to turn into giant parking lot as commuters seek to avoid massive new toll.
From: pothead
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On 2025-01-06, Too Damned Funny! <tdf@invalid.com> wrote:
> On 1/5/2025 3:29 PM, John Smyth wrote:
>> Another brilliant maneuver by lefty Gov Hocul. Businesses are moving out
>> of NYC and she wants to encourage those still remaining to relocate as
>> well.
>> Do democrats have any common sense?
>>
>> 'NYC to turn into giant parking lot as commuters seek to avoid massive
>> new toll.'
>>
>> <https://nypost.com/2025/01/05/us-news/nyc-congestion-tolls-will-put-the-screws-on-outer-boroughs-critics/>
>>
>> 'Congestion toll chaos will push commuters to ditch their cars in
>> northern Manhattan, outer boroughs: ‘New park-and-ride’'
>>
>> 'The invasion of the Bridge and Tunnel crowd won’t just be on weekends
>> anymore.
>>
>> Commuters to the Big Apple will be turning neighborhoods across the city
>> into their own personal parking lots beginning this week, ditching their
>> rides to save their wallets because of the $9 congestion pricing plan,
>> concerned residents told The Post.
>>
>> The plan is expected to upend neighborhoods closest to the 60th Street
>> tolling zone with nightmarish gridlock as a surge of drivers begin
>> scouring for free parking spots.'
>>
>> '“Parking is already very much an issue. We have nine hospitals in our
>> district, and many of them are north of 60th Street,” said Upper East
>> Sider Valerie Mason, a member of New Yorkers Against Congestion Pricing
>> Tax, a group suing to stop the scheme.
>>
>> Hospital workers and visitors already eat up the majority of the nabe’s
>> street parking, she added.'
>>
>> '“We’re also very concerned that [the toll] will cause a huge amount of
>> traffic and more cars trying to park north of the [59th Street Bridge],”
>> Mason said.
>>
>> The Upper West Side and Harlem are also expected to get slammed — a
>> problem when parking spaces are already a precious commodity.'
>>
>> 'East Harlem is already plagued by congestion from out-of-town traffic
>> taking up parking spots before heading south in the borough — because
>> it’s faster than using the FDR Drive, said Xavier Santiago, chairman of
>> Manhattan Community Board 11. He predicted the parking crisis “will
>> continue to escalate” with congestion pricing.
>>
>> The outer boroughs are also panicking.
>>
>> Communities such as Long Island City in Queens, the South Bronx, and
>> ritzy Carroll Gardens, Cobble Hill and Park Slope in Brooklyn are
>> fearing their quality of life will be uprooted – not only by their own
>> drivers but also those schlepping to the Big Apple from New Jersey,
>> upstate New York, Long Island and Staten Island.'
>>
>> 'My constituents who still have no real public transit connection to
>> Manhattan are looking forward to treating the posh, transit-rich,
>> gentrified, brownstone Brooklyn as their new park-and-ride,” quipped NYC
>> Council Minority Leader Joe Borelli (R-Staten Island), when asked about
>> the tolling scheme pushed by Gov. Kathy Hochul and other left wing
>> Democrats.
>>
>> Borelli and other critics of the plan claim it will bring more air and
>> noise pollution to the outer boroughs – including parts of The Bronx and
>> Staten Island — as drivers look to avoid the toll.
>>
>> Genevieve Giuliano, a professor specializing in urban transportation at
>> USC’s Price School of Public Policy, expects motorists to spend the next
>> few months “experimenting” with new routes to decide whether they’re
>> better off paying the tolls, relying on mass transit or chasing free
>> parking.
>>
>> “Can you imagine doing” a drive-to-subway commute “every day?” said
>> Giuliano. “Because some days the parking spots might be there; other
>> days they might not.”'
>>
>> 'Ultimately, many commuters want to spend as little time as possible on
>> NYC’s crime-ridden subway system — warned Jim Walden, a lawyer running
>> for mayor — so expect them to relentlessly drive around the outer
>> boroughs looking for prized parking spots.
>>
>> “My friends on the far left really don’t care about the outer boroughs,”
>> said Walden, a moderate independent. “They’re creating less congestion
>> in Manhattan [with the tolls] and more congestion everywhere else.”
>>
>> Kathryn Freed, a retired state Supreme Court justice and former Lower
>> East Side councilwoman, is expecting the worst.
>>
>> “People are going to do whatever they can to avoid [the toll],” Freed
>> said.'
>>
>> 'And that means a toll camera on 1st Avenue between East 60 and 61st
>> streets could bring traffic chaos. Motorists getting off the Queensboro
>> Bridge planning to head north will be hit with a charge if they take the
>> lower level to 1st Avenue.
>>
>> But the upper exit to East 62nd street will bypass the charge — creating
>> a potential choke point as drivers try to avoid the toll. '
>>
>> 'Meanwhile, online entrepreneurs have long been hawking license-plate
>> covers for motorists trying to dodge toll machines and traffic cameras,
>> but the state-run MTA has warned it plans to crack down harder on rogue
>> riders once congestion pricing is in effect.
>>
>> There is at least one cheat code available.
>>
>> Video shared on social media in April exposed a potential hack to beat a
>> toll camera on West End Avenue by driving the wrong way through a
>> one-way, one lane parking garage on the toll-zone border — with an
>> entrance on 60th Street and an exit on 61st Street.'
>>
>> 'A manager at the Sessanta Garage, who identified himself as “Sergio,”
>> told The Post the business “is aware of the issue” and plans to
>> eventually install barricades to avoid “head-on collisions” involving
>> toll evaders.
>>
>> “We’ve just been waiting to see if this congestion pricing really goes
>> into effect or not,” he said last week.
>>
>> The MTA declined to comment.'
>
> Hochul is DEI incarnate and proof that liberals fail to consider the end
> results of their decision making.

Logic says Hochul will be voted out of office next election however the libby elites
in NYC don't give a hoot about paying extra money so much like
voting in Adams after DeBalsio destroyed the city they will line up behind her
and push her into office.

As for this fee to enter NYC, the outer boroughs are already overloaded with
people parking and when you have alternate side of the street parking so
the streets can be cleaned, it cuts the number of parking spots in half for
several days a week.

I suspect fake tags, tag blockers and so forth are going to be a brisk business.

--
pothead

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