Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote at 14:40 this Thursday (GMT):
> chrisv wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>
>>>Farley Flud wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What the fuck is 20nm? Is that Newton-meters? I suppose that it
>>>> is, but the fucking web site does not specify although it should.
>>>> Fucking incompetent assholes are everywhere.
>>>
>>>You ignorant American and your foot-pounds! :-D
>>
>> Pounds-feet. An extremely common error, to call them foot-pounds...
>
> Heck, Google shows you are correct!

Wait, that's a real measurement?
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On Fri, 3 May 2024 13:27:10 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:

> Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote at 14:40 this Thursday
> (GMT):
>> chrisv wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>
>>>>Farley Flud wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> What the fuck is 20nm? Is that Newton-meters? I suppose that it
>>>>> is, but the fucking web site does not specify although it should.
>>>>> Fucking incompetent assholes are everywhere.
>>>>
>>>>You ignorant American and your foot-pounds! :-D
>>>
>>> Pounds-feet. An extremely common error, to call them foot-pounds...
>>
>> Heck, Google shows you are correct!
>
>
> Wait, that's a real measurement?

I went out and looked at my torque wrench just for kicks. Yup, the scale
is clearly marked 'foot pounds'. That's the 1/2 drive one. I didn't look
but I'm sure the 1/4 drive is marked 'inch pounds'.

These are the traditional beam wrenched with a pointer and scale, not the
newer automatic sort.

https://www.sears.com/craftsman-3-8-in-dr-beam-style-torque-wrench/
p-00932999000P

Mine has 'Foot pounds' where that one has 'Craftsman' but it's similar.
The description says '0-75 Ft. Lbs.'

https://shoppress.dormanproducts.com/wheel-torque-specs/

That sums up why I prefer the beam style. They are accurate until the beam
breaks and I've never had that happen.

On 3 May 2024 18:28:51 GMT, rbowman wrote:

>
> I went out and looked at my torque wrench just for kicks. Yup, the scale
> is clearly marked 'foot pounds'. That's the 1/2 drive one. I didn't look
> but I'm sure the 1/4 drive is marked 'inch pounds'.
>

What a fucking idiot!

If you knew anything about elementary physics, torque is equal to the
cross product of radial position and force: T = r X F.

In quotidian applications, this equation reduces to T = (lever arm)*(force).

In SI units, force is Newtons and the lever arm, or moment arm, is
meters. Hence, Torque = N * m.

In the antiquated English units, Torque = feet * lbf (foot-pounds).

Here, we must distinguish "pounds of force," lbf, and "pounds of mass,"
lb.

The proper way to express torque in the English system is lbf-ft,
but the English-derived idiots, including you, usually employ ft-lbf.

I prefer SI units but it will require the English-derived idiots
centuries to adapt.

Fortunately, GNU Units doesn't care:

[~]# units

You have: N m
You want: lbf ft
* 0.73756215
/ 1.3558179

You have: N m
You want: ft lbf
* 0.73756215
/ 1.3558179

On Fri, 03 May 2024 19:34:39 +0000, Farley Flud wrote:

> What a fucking idiot!

iirc you're the stupid motherfucker that can't even work on a bicycle.

On 5/3/24 19:43, rbowman wrote:
> On Fri, 03 May 2024 19:34:39 +0000, Farley Flud wrote:
>
>
>> What a fucking idiot!
>
> iirc you're the stupid motherfucker that can't even work on a bicycle.

Hahhhahhahh :-)

He once said he didn't know how to play chess. And then he said he had
never played bowling. I remember I couldn't quite place where he grew up
then. The entire greater Iran, greater India, the entire Europe and
Russia, and the whole continent of Americas know and play chess. There's
been grand masters in chess from Cuba, beginning with the late 1800s...
There are presently grand masters in USA and Canada. World famous. And
there was that Bobby Fischer.

So where, which continent, which country, and which city is Farley from,
that doesn't know chess and hasn't played bowling? We Iranians fucked
our American girls within two hours after taking them to bowling
centers, about four months after stepping into this country.

And on his bicycle, instead of pulling the stem tube farther out and up
and tightening it for that position, he purchases an extension of some
sort to bring the handle bar higher... I've messed with bicycles all my
life and I've never done that.

So he hasn't fooled with bicycles either like others who do that all
their childhood and juvenile years.

Is Farley a cat? ... Hahhahahh :-)

On Sat, 4 May 2024 19:54:52 -0500, Physfitfreak wrote:

>
> And on his bicycle, instead of pulling the stem tube farther out and up
> and tightening it for that position, he purchases an extension of some
> sort to bring the handle bar higher... I've messed with bicycles all my
> life and I've never done that.
>

That's only possible with the traditional quill stem.

Lots of newer bikes have the threadless stem:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stem_(bicycle_part)

https://www.sheldonbrown.com/handsup.html

A threadless stem requires an extender to raise the handlebars.

On Sun, 05 May 2024 04:34:21 +0000, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote in
<17cc7d9aab8669de$12265$291924$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com>:

> On Sat, 4 May 2024 19:54:52 -0500, Physfitfreak wrote:
>
>
>> And on his bicycle, instead of pulling the stem tube farther out and up
>> and tightening it for that position, he purchases an extension of some
>> sort to bring the handle bar higher... I've messed with bicycles all my
>> life and I've never done that.
>>
>>
> That's only possible with the traditional quill stem.
>
> Lots of newer bikes have the threadless stem:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stem_(bicycle_part)
>
> https://www.sheldonbrown.com/handsup.html
>
>
> A threadless stem requires an extender to raise the handlebars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjHHTWalnvw

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On 5/4/24 23:34, Farley Flud wrote:
> On Sat, 4 May 2024 19:54:52 -0500, Physfitfreak wrote:
>
>>
>> And on his bicycle, instead of pulling the stem tube farther out and up
>> and tightening it for that position, he purchases an extension of some
>> sort to bring the handle bar higher... I've messed with bicycles all my
>> life and I've never done that.
>>
>
> That's only possible with the traditional quill stem.
>
> Lots of newer bikes have the threadless stem:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stem_(bicycle_part)
>
> https://www.sheldonbrown.com/handsup.html
>
>
> A threadless stem requires an extender to raise the handlebars.
>

I see. None of my bicycles had a fixed length stem. The ones I have are
all adjustable. Even the one I inherited from my elder brothers when I
was 5 years old and learned riding with it, had an adjustable stem (a
Phillips bicycle with that lion thing).

I'm no expert in these stuff, just in my experience never encountered a
fixed stem type.