In article <vjcr99$1ljtr$1@dont-email.me>,
recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
>
> On 12/11/24 2:58 PM, Skeeter wrote:
> > In article <vjcple$1mhot$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
> > says...
> >>
> >> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:6759b184$3$3620709
> >> $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
> >>
> >>> In article <vjc3b8$1i4rt$4@dont-email.me>,
> >>> recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
> >>>>
> >>>> On 12/11/24 7:19 AM, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>>> {...}
> >>>>>>>> And do note that Musk is into Bitcoin - specifically DOGE
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ============
> >>>>>>>> Elon Musk?s Bitcoin Holdings Surge to $2 Billion as Asset Crosses
> >>>>>>>> $100,000
> >>>>>>>> ...>>>
> >>>>>>> So? He's rich and can do that shit.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> If crypto does happen, what's your response if Musk convinces Trump to
> >>>> put the money into DOGEcoin instead of the much more popular BITcoin?
> >>>> Because not all cyrpto is fungible... that's what's in it for Musk.
> >>>
> >>> I don't really care as long as there is gas in my tank and food on my
> >>> table.
> >> ===========
> >> People voted for deportations but also cheap groceries, and you can?t
> >> have both. If you?re worried about groceries, hoo boy. Fifteen percent of
> >> construction workers, half of food workers, and our annual GDP will be
> >> tits-up, you morons. Do you like food? Grab your ankles! Many are
> >> essential workers, what part of essential don?t you understand? And they
> >> also spend money and pay taxes, dumbass.
> >
> > As long as they have work visas.
>
>
> GOP claims that that is "Amnesty" and has been blocking it.
> Next!
>
I don't care. It's legal and it works.

In article <vjcrdv$1ljtr$2@dont-email.me>,
recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
>
> On 12/11/24 11:45 AM, Skeeter wrote:
> > In article <vjcbqe$1jlje$3@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
> > says...
> >>
> >> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in
> >> news:vjc0ob$1hg0g$1@dont-email.me:
> >>
> >>> On 12/10/24 1:15 PM, Scout wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
> >>>> news:vj9npr$113ra$5@dont-email.me...
> >>>>> Trump Country USA <cap@gmail.con> wrote in
> >>>>> news:20241210.074626.cbf1ef30 @remailer.frell.eu.org:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> In <bRO5P.27504$xPr6.24493@fx10.iad> Rudy wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 12/8/2024 7:08 AM, John Smyth wrote:
> >>>>>>>> 'The damage Biden has done'
> >>>>>>> None.
> >>>>>> You don't know.  You haven't any money or savings to steal.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> tRump and the Repugs have already outlined their plan to steal
> >>>>> billion$ of
> >>>>> your tax money.
> >>>>
> >>>> Well that's an improvement over the Trillions Biden and the Democrats
> >>>> stole.
> >>>
> >>> That was the 2017 TCJA.
> >>>
> >>> -hh
> >>>
> >>
> >> Scut thinks Biden stole Trillion$ ?!!!! What a crock!
> >>
> >> Biden and his cabint is worth maybe $200M, while tRump and his cabinet is
> >> looking over $300 Billion.
> >
> > Trumps own money, not ours.
> >>
> >> And where did those "$Trillions" go? Well a lot of it went to Red States
> >> to build factories, roads, bridges and more. None of it went into his
> >> pockets.
> >
> >
> > How did Kamala have a billion dollars for a one month campaign and end
> > up 20 million in the hole? Where did that money go?
>
> It was spent on election advertising, mostly in the 7 swing states.
>
> It gets reported to the FEC; you can look up the details here:
> <https://www.fec.gov/data/>
>
> -hh

A one month do nothing campaign. Why is she 20 mill in the hole?

On 2024-12-11, Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
> In article <6759ee2e$2$3068683$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>>
>> On Dec 11, 2024 at 12:51:40 PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
>> <6759ed13$13$3828$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>
>> > In article <vjcps6$1mhot$3@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
>> > says...
>> >>
>> >> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:6759b2d9$8$1895507
>> >> $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>> >>
>> >>> In article <vjcbbm$1jlje$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
>> >>> says...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote in
>> >>>> news:p27jlj5kt9q7d5evijc2dqef3rf8lnhbba@4ax.com:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> -hh wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> BTW, here's another example of a lack of critical thinking skills
>> >>>> within
>> >>>>>> the GOP:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> [quote]
>> >>>>>> Sen. Hawley spars with witness over impact of mass deportations:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Hawley: "Here's the Democrats' plan: take the 13M-plus illegals who
>> >>>>>> are here, taking jobs...flood[ing] the labor force..."
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Witness: "They can't flood the labor force if they're already part
>> >> of
>> >>>>>> the labor force."
>> >>>>>> [/quote]
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Only an idiot would think that's a winning rebuttal from Witness.
>> >>>>> Millions of illegals have flooded the labor market, and still are.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Another example of a lack of critical thinking skills from -
>> >> highhorse.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> His response will be deleted, unread.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> There is no flood of citizens that want those jobs.
>> >>>
>> >>> There will be and at higher wages.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> higher, MUCH higher prices for your food. And empty shelves until you
>> >> can recruit and train those workers. From time to time some have tried
>> >> those jobs, they flat cannot keep up with those immigrants.
>> >
>> > Your racism aside, if they have work visas there should be no problem.
>> > See how that works?
>>
>> I do. You don't.
>
> I do. Work visa means they can legally work. It's call doing shit
> legally. Worked for a long time.

Since snit obviously has no respect for the law (numerous serious traffic tickets, being arrested etc) I wouldn't expect snit to
understand the concept of legally.
And BTW, you lost snit the minute you mentioned the word "work".
Work to snit is like garlic to a vampire.

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"Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
news:vjb5vo$1d0iu$3@dont-email.me...
> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
> news:6758fb02$0$2873008$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>
>> In article <vjaret$17ms8$1@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
>> says...
>>>
>>> Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> news:qhghlj52dfm03p1thfmcabk1mjbvnjq3og@4ax.com:
>>>
>>> > Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
>>> >>Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> >>news:qobhlj9tc8kca0sba59k5cf0bafvb803o2@4ax.com:
>>> >>> Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>>> >>>>news:67589a61$3$3620706$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>> >>>>> In article <vj9npr$113ra$5@dont-email.me>, bax02
>>> >>_spamblock@baxcode.com
>>> >>>>> says...
>>> >>>>>> Trump Country USA <cap@gmail.con> wrote in
>>> >>>>>> news:20241210.074626.cbf1ef30 @remailer.frell.eu.org:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>>> > You haven't any money or savings to steal.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> tRump and the Repugs have already outlined their plan to steal
>>> >>>>>> billion$ of your tax money.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Where is it? Have you seen it? Stop lying.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>Bitcoin. The plan is for the US to "invest" in Bitcoin, which
>>> >>>>means
>>> >>the
>>> >>>>billionaires and drug lords now holding Bitcoin will be able to
>>> >>>>cash
>>> >>out
>>> >>>>leaving the US with worthless fantasy.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Fascinating. Do you think DJT can railroad an "investment" in
>>> >>> Bitcoin through the government?
>>> >>
>>> >>He's got Musk and his billions to help him.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Oh OK.
>>> >
>>>
>>> And do note that Musk is into Bitcoin - specifically DOGE
>>>
>>> ============
>>> Elon Musk?s Bitcoin Holdings Surge to $2 Billion as Asset Crosses
>>> $100,000
>>>
>>> https://www.tradingview.com/news/zycrypto:5be74d6a6094b:0-elon-musk-s-
>>> bitcoin-holdings-surge-to-2-billion-as-asset-crosses-100-000/
>>
>>
>> So? He's rich and can do that shit.
>>>
>>> ===========
>>>
>>> And these conservaturds think tRump&Co are looking out for the common
>>> citizen.
>>
>> How will it change your life?
>>
> How will tRump and his gang change YOUR life? He wants to take the taxes
> YOU pay and give it to his buddies - and some for himself.

How would that be any different than Biden giving away our tax money?

I see where just a couple of months they gave away $4.5 Billion in our tax
money..

"Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
news:vjcple$1mhot$2@dont-email.me...
> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:6759b184$3$3620709
> $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>
>> In article <vjc3b8$1i4rt$4@dont-email.me>,
>> recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
>>>
>>> On 12/11/24 7:19 AM, Skeeter wrote:
>>> > {...}
>>> >>>> And do note that Musk is into Bitcoin - specifically DOGE
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> ============
>>> >>>> Elon Musk?s Bitcoin Holdings Surge to $2 Billion as Asset Crosses
>>> >>>> $100,000
>>> >>>> ...>>>
>>> >>> So? He's rich and can do that shit.
>>>
>>>
>>> If crypto does happen, what's your response if Musk convinces Trump to
>>> put the money into DOGEcoin instead of the much more popular BITcoin?
>>> Because not all cyrpto is fungible... that's what's in it for Musk.
>>
>> I don't really care as long as there is gas in my tank and food on my
>> table.
> ===========
> People voted for deportations but also cheap groceries, and you can't
> have both.

Sure we can. Deport the criminals, support the guest workers.

Illegal vs legal.

Disobeying the law vs Obeying the law

Wrong vs Right

On 2024-12-11, Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
> In article <vjcrdv$1ljtr$2@dont-email.me>,
> recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
>>
>> On 12/11/24 11:45 AM, Skeeter wrote:
>> > In article <vjcbqe$1jlje$3@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
>> > says...
>> >>
>> >> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in
>> >> news:vjc0ob$1hg0g$1@dont-email.me:
>> >>
>> >>> On 12/10/24 1:15 PM, Scout wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
>> >>>> news:vj9npr$113ra$5@dont-email.me...
>> >>>>> Trump Country USA <cap@gmail.con> wrote in
>> >>>>> news:20241210.074626.cbf1ef30 @remailer.frell.eu.org:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> In <bRO5P.27504$xPr6.24493@fx10.iad> Rudy wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On 12/8/2024 7:08 AM, John Smyth wrote:
>> >>>>>>>> 'The damage Biden has done'
>> >>>>>>> None.
>> >>>>>> You don't know.  You haven't any money or savings to steal.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> tRump and the Repugs have already outlined their plan to steal
>> >>>>> billion$ of
>> >>>>> your tax money.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Well that's an improvement over the Trillions Biden and the Democrats
>> >>>> stole.
>> >>>
>> >>> That was the 2017 TCJA.
>> >>>
>> >>> -hh
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> Scut thinks Biden stole Trillion$ ?!!!! What a crock!
>> >>
>> >> Biden and his cabint is worth maybe $200M, while tRump and his cabinet is
>> >> looking over $300 Billion.
>> >
>> > Trumps own money, not ours.
>> >>
>> >> And where did those "$Trillions" go? Well a lot of it went to Red States
>> >> to build factories, roads, bridges and more. None of it went into his
>> >> pockets.
>> >
>> >
>> > How did Kamala have a billion dollars for a one month campaign and end
>> > up 20 million in the hole? Where did that money go?
>>
>> It was spent on election advertising, mostly in the 7 swing states.
>>
>> It gets reported to the FEC; you can look up the details here:
>> <https://www.fec.gov/data/>
>>
>> -hh
>
> A one month do nothing campaign. Why is she 20 mill in the hole?

Extremely poor budgeting or.................

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All about the snit troll:

<https://web.archive.org/web/20181028000459/http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/snit.html>
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"-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in message
news:vjcrdv$1ljtr$2@dont-email.me...
> On 12/11/24 11:45 AM, Skeeter wrote:
>> In article <vjcbqe$1jlje$3@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
>> says...
>>>
>>> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in
>>> news:vjc0ob$1hg0g$1@dont-email.me:
>>>
>>>> On 12/10/24 1:15 PM, Scout wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:vj9npr$113ra$5@dont-email.me...
>>>>>> Trump Country USA <cap@gmail.con> wrote in
>>>>>> news:20241210.074626.cbf1ef30 @remailer.frell.eu.org:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In <bRO5P.27504$xPr6.24493@fx10.iad> Rudy wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 12/8/2024 7:08 AM, John Smyth wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 'The damage Biden has done'
>>>>>>>> None.
>>>>>>> You don't know. You haven't any money or savings to steal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> tRump and the Repugs have already outlined their plan to steal
>>>>>> billion$ of
>>>>>> your tax money.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well that's an improvement over the Trillions Biden and the Democrats
>>>>> stole.
>>>>
>>>> That was the 2017 TCJA.
>>>>
>>>> -hh
>>>>
>>>
>>> Scut thinks Biden stole Trillion$ ?!!!! What a crock!
>>>
>>> Biden and his cabint is worth maybe $200M, while tRump and his cabinet
>>> is
>>> looking over $300 Billion.
>>
>> Trumps own money, not ours.
>>>
>>> And where did those "$Trillions" go? Well a lot of it went to Red
>>> States
>>> to build factories, roads, bridges and more. None of it went into his
>>> pockets.
>>
>>
>> How did Kamala have a billion dollars for a one month campaign and end
>> up 20 million in the hole? Where did that money go?
>
> It was spent on election advertising, mostly in the 7 swing states.
>
> It gets reported to the FEC; you can look up the details here:
> <https://www.fec.gov/data/>
>
> -hh

Well, she also gave away massive amounts, which frankly I think that should
be made illegal as contributor donated to HER campaign.. not to these other
ones.

https://www.businessinsider.com/kamala-harris-giving-25-million-other-campaigns-2024-9

https://www.newsweek.com/kamala-harris-money-black-groups-voters-swing-states-1972084

https://us.fundsforngos.org/news/kamala-harris-campaign-donations-to-nonprofits-raise-eyebrows/

https://nypost.com/2024/11/17/us-news/harris-campaign-paid-oprah-winfreys-production-company-nearly-2-5-million/

Seems to me if she hadn't give away all that money.. she wouldn't have ended
up in debt.

On 12/11/24 3:07 PM, Skeeter wrote:
> In article <vjcqqq$1lg1b$1@dont-email.me>,
> recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
>>
>> On 12/11/24 10:42 AM, Skeeter wrote:
>>> In article <vjcbbm$1jlje$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
>>> says...
>>>>
>>>> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote in
>>>> news:p27jlj5kt9q7d5evijc2dqef3rf8lnhbba@4ax.com:
>>>>
>>>>> -hh wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW, here's another example of a lack of critical thinking skills
>>>> within
>>>>>> the GOP:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [quote]
>>>>>> Sen. Hawley spars with witness over impact of mass deportations:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hawley: "Here's the Democrats' plan: take the 13M-plus illegals who
>>>>>> are here, taking jobs...flood[ing] the labor force..."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Witness: "They can't flood the labor force if they're already part of
>>>>>> the labor force."
>>>>>> [/quote]
>>>>>
>>>>> Only an idiot would think that's a winning rebuttal from Witness.
>>>>> Millions of illegals have flooded the labor market, and still are.
>>>>>
>>>>> Another example of a lack of critical thinking skills from -highhorse.
>>>>>
>>>>> His response will be deleted, unread.
>>>>
>>>> There is no flood of citizens that want those jobs.
>>>
>>> There will be and at higher wages.
>>
>> Sure, there's always going to be *some* uptake, but the low unemployment
>> rate means that the current labor shortage will be made worse.
>>
>> citizens who would opt for those jobs, but the low unemployment rate
>> shows that many jobs will have to go unfilled, which means that employer
>> competition would increase those jobs' wages.
>>
>> Of course, those higher business costs would be passed along by the
>> employers as higher product costs .. which causes higher inflation.
>>
>> So much for keeping his campaign promise to lower retail prices.
>>
>> -hh
>
> The ones working now just need work visas and they can continue working.

They won't be able to, because the GOP believes that to issue work visas
would be considered to be "Amnesty" ... plus they'll be deported first.

-hh

On Dec 11, 2024 at 2:01:48 PM MST, "-hh" wrote <vjcujs$1lg1b$3@dont-email.me>:

> On 12/11/24 3:07 PM, Skeeter wrote:
>> In article <vjcqqq$1lg1b$1@dont-email.me>,
>> recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
>>>
>>> On 12/11/24 10:42 AM, Skeeter wrote:
>>>> In article <vjcbbm$1jlje$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
>>>> says...
>>>>>
>>>>> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote in
>>>>> news:p27jlj5kt9q7d5evijc2dqef3rf8lnhbba@4ax.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> -hh wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BTW, here's another example of a lack of critical thinking skills
>>>>> within
>>>>>>> the GOP:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [quote]
>>>>>>> Sen. Hawley spars with witness over impact of mass deportations:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hawley: "Here's the Democrats' plan: take the 13M-plus illegals who
>>>>>>> are here, taking jobs...flood[ing] the labor force..."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Witness: "They can't flood the labor force if they're already part of
>>>>>>> the labor force."
>>>>>>> [/quote]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Only an idiot would think that's a winning rebuttal from Witness.
>>>>>> Millions of illegals have flooded the labor market, and still are.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another example of a lack of critical thinking skills from -highhorse.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> His response will be deleted, unread.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is no flood of citizens that want those jobs.
>>>>
>>>> There will be and at higher wages.
>>>
>>> Sure, there's always going to be *some* uptake, but the low unemployment
>>> rate means that the current labor shortage will be made worse.
>>>
>>> citizens who would opt for those jobs, but the low unemployment rate
>>> shows that many jobs will have to go unfilled, which means that employer
>>> competition would increase those jobs' wages.
>>>
>>> Of course, those higher business costs would be passed along by the
>>> employers as higher product costs .. which causes higher inflation.
>>>
>>> So much for keeping his campaign promise to lower retail prices.
>>>
>>> -hh
>>
>> The ones working now just need work visas and they can continue working.
>
> They won't be able to, because the GOP believes that to issue work visas
> would be considered to be "Amnesty" ... plus they'll be deported first.
>
>
> -hh

And they will accuse the people of eating the dogs and cats.

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On 12/11/24 3:11 PM, Skeeter wrote:
> In article <vjcr99$1ljtr$1@dont-email.me>,
> recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
>>
>> On 12/11/24 2:58 PM, Skeeter wrote:
>>> In article <vjcple$1mhot$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
>>> says...
>>>>
>>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:6759b184$3$3620709
>>>> $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <vjc3b8$1i4rt$4@dont-email.me>,
>>>>> recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/11/24 7:19 AM, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>> {...}
>>>>>>>>>> And do note that Musk is into Bitcoin - specifically DOGE
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ============
>>>>>>>>>> Elon Musk?s Bitcoin Holdings Surge to $2 Billion as Asset Crosses
>>>>>>>>>> $100,000
>>>>>>>>>> ...>>>
>>>>>>>>> So? He's rich and can do that shit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If crypto does happen, what's your response if Musk convinces Trump to
>>>>>> put the money into DOGEcoin instead of the much more popular BITcoin?
>>>>>> Because not all cyrpto is fungible... that's what's in it for Musk.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't really care as long as there is gas in my tank and food on my
>>>>> table.
>>>> ===========
>>>> People voted for deportations but also cheap groceries, and you can?t
>>>> have both. If you?re worried about groceries, hoo boy. Fifteen percent of
>>>> construction workers, half of food workers, and our annual GDP will be
>>>> tits-up, you morons. Do you like food? Grab your ankles! Many are
>>>> essential workers, what part of essential don?t you understand? And they
>>>> also spend money and pay taxes, dumbass.
>>>
>>> As long as they have work visas.
>>
>>
>> GOP claims that that is "Amnesty" and has been blocking it.
>> Next!
>>
> I don't care. It's legal and it works.

So just how is that legislation going to be passed in a GOP triple
majority?

-hh

In article <vjctf9$1n9f5$1@dont-email.me>,
me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net says...
>
> "-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in message
> news:vjcrdv$1ljtr$2@dont-email.me...
> > On 12/11/24 11:45 AM, Skeeter wrote:
> >> In article <vjcbqe$1jlje$3@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
> >> says...
> >>>
> >>> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in
> >>> news:vjc0ob$1hg0g$1@dont-email.me:
> >>>
> >>>> On 12/10/24 1:15 PM, Scout wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:vj9npr$113ra$5@dont-email.me...
> >>>>>> Trump Country USA <cap@gmail.con> wrote in
> >>>>>> news:20241210.074626.cbf1ef30 @remailer.frell.eu.org:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> In <bRO5P.27504$xPr6.24493@fx10.iad> Rudy wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 12/8/2024 7:08 AM, John Smyth wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> 'The damage Biden has done'
> >>>>>>>> None.
> >>>>>>> You don't know. You haven't any money or savings to steal.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> tRump and the Repugs have already outlined their plan to steal
> >>>>>> billion$ of
> >>>>>> your tax money.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Well that's an improvement over the Trillions Biden and the Democrats
> >>>>> stole.
> >>>>
> >>>> That was the 2017 TCJA.
> >>>>
> >>>> -hh
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Scut thinks Biden stole Trillion$ ?!!!! What a crock!
> >>>
> >>> Biden and his cabint is worth maybe $200M, while tRump and his cabinet
> >>> is
> >>> looking over $300 Billion.
> >>
> >> Trumps own money, not ours.
> >>>
> >>> And where did those "$Trillions" go? Well a lot of it went to Red
> >>> States
> >>> to build factories, roads, bridges and more. None of it went into his
> >>> pockets.
> >>
> >>
> >> How did Kamala have a billion dollars for a one month campaign and end
> >> up 20 million in the hole? Where did that money go?
> >
> > It was spent on election advertising, mostly in the 7 swing states.
> >
> > It gets reported to the FEC; you can look up the details here:
> > <https://www.fec.gov/data/>
> >
> > -hh
>
> Well, she also gave away massive amounts, which frankly I think that should
> be made illegal as contributor donated to HER campaign.. not to these other
> ones.
>
> https://www.businessinsider.com/kamala-harris-giving-25-million-other-campaigns-2024-9
>
> https://www.newsweek.com/kamala-harris-money-black-groups-voters-swing-states-1972084
>
> https://us.fundsforngos.org/news/kamala-harris-campaign-donations-to-nonprofits-raise-eyebrows/
>
> https://nypost.com/2024/11/17/us-news/harris-campaign-paid-oprah-winfreys-production-company-nearly-2-5-million/
>
> Seems to me if she hadn't give away all that money.. she wouldn't have ended
> up in debt.
>
>

and how much did she have to pay the crappy "stars" she used to draw a
crowd?

In article <vjcujs$1lg1b$3@dont-email.me>,
recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
>
> On 12/11/24 3:07 PM, Skeeter wrote:
> > In article <vjcqqq$1lg1b$1@dont-email.me>,
> > recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
> >>
> >> On 12/11/24 10:42 AM, Skeeter wrote:
> >>> In article <vjcbbm$1jlje$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
> >>> says...
> >>>>
> >>>> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote in
> >>>> news:p27jlj5kt9q7d5evijc2dqef3rf8lnhbba@4ax.com:
> >>>>
> >>>>> -hh wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> BTW, here's another example of a lack of critical thinking skills
> >>>> within
> >>>>>> the GOP:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> [quote]
> >>>>>> Sen. Hawley spars with witness over impact of mass deportations:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hawley: "Here's the Democrats' plan: take the 13M-plus illegals who
> >>>>>> are here, taking jobs...flood[ing] the labor force..."
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Witness: "They can't flood the labor force if they're already part of
> >>>>>> the labor force."
> >>>>>> [/quote]
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Only an idiot would think that's a winning rebuttal from Witness.
> >>>>> Millions of illegals have flooded the labor market, and still are.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Another example of a lack of critical thinking skills from -highhorse.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> His response will be deleted, unread.
> >>>>
> >>>> There is no flood of citizens that want those jobs.
> >>>
> >>> There will be and at higher wages.
> >>
> >> Sure, there's always going to be *some* uptake, but the low unemployment
> >> rate means that the current labor shortage will be made worse.
> >>
> >> citizens who would opt for those jobs, but the low unemployment rate
> >> shows that many jobs will have to go unfilled, which means that employer
> >> competition would increase those jobs' wages.
> >>
> >> Of course, those higher business costs would be passed along by the
> >> employers as higher product costs .. which causes higher inflation.
> >>
> >> So much for keeping his campaign promise to lower retail prices.
> >>
> >> -hh
> >
> > The ones working now just need work visas and they can continue working.
>
> They won't be able to, because the GOP believes that to issue work visas
> would be considered to be "Amnesty" ... plus they'll be deported first.
>
>
There are already people on work visas. Those are legal and won't be
deported.

On 12/11/24 3:17 PM, Scout wrote:
>
>
> "Baxter" <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote in message
> news:vjcple$1mhot$2@dont-email.me...
>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:6759b184$3$3620709
>> $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>
>>> In article <vjc3b8$1i4rt$4@dont-email.me>,
>>> recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
>>>>
>>>> On 12/11/24 7:19 AM, Skeeter wrote:
>>>> > {...}
>>>> >>>> And do note that Musk is into Bitcoin - specifically DOGE
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> ============
>>>> >>>> Elon Musk?s Bitcoin Holdings Surge to $2 Billion as Asset Crosses
>>>> >>>> $100,000
>>>> >>>> ...>>>
>>>> >>> So? He's rich and can do that shit.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If crypto does happen, what's your response if Musk convinces Trump to
>>>> put the money into DOGEcoin instead of the much more popular BITcoin?
>>>> Because not all cyrpto is fungible... that's what's in it for Musk.
>>>
>>> I don't really care as long as there is gas in my tank and food on my
>>> table.

There won't be, which is the point.

>> ===========
>> People voted for deportations but also cheap groceries, and you can't
>> have both.
>
> Sure we can. Deport the criminals, support the guest workers.
>
> Illegal vs legal.

Problem is that immigrants who crossed the border without papers fall
into the "Illegal" column above, so they'll get deported before they can
apply to become guest workers.

> Disobeying the law vs Obeying the law

too late = water under the bridge.

And the GOP opposes any forgiveness of immigration violations, labeling
it "Amnesty". Doesn't matter to them today that Ronald Reagan did it.

-hh

In article <6759fe38$0$3474736$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>
> On Dec 11, 2024 at 2:01:48 PM MST, "-hh" wrote <vjcujs$1lg1b$3@dont-email.me>:
>
> > On 12/11/24 3:07 PM, Skeeter wrote:
> >> In article <vjcqqq$1lg1b$1@dont-email.me>,
> >> recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
> >>>
> >>> On 12/11/24 10:42 AM, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>> In article <vjcbbm$1jlje$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
> >>>> says...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote in
> >>>>> news:p27jlj5kt9q7d5evijc2dqef3rf8lnhbba@4ax.com:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> -hh wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> BTW, here's another example of a lack of critical thinking skills
> >>>>> within
> >>>>>>> the GOP:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> [quote]
> >>>>>>> Sen. Hawley spars with witness over impact of mass deportations:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hawley: "Here's the Democrats' plan: take the 13M-plus illegals who
> >>>>>>> are here, taking jobs...flood[ing] the labor force..."
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Witness: "They can't flood the labor force if they're already part of
> >>>>>>> the labor force."
> >>>>>>> [/quote]
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Only an idiot would think that's a winning rebuttal from Witness.
> >>>>>> Millions of illegals have flooded the labor market, and still are.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Another example of a lack of critical thinking skills from -highhorse.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> His response will be deleted, unread.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> There is no flood of citizens that want those jobs.
> >>>>
> >>>> There will be and at higher wages.
> >>>
> >>> Sure, there's always going to be *some* uptake, but the low unemployment
> >>> rate means that the current labor shortage will be made worse.
> >>>
> >>> citizens who would opt for those jobs, but the low unemployment rate
> >>> shows that many jobs will have to go unfilled, which means that employer
> >>> competition would increase those jobs' wages.
> >>>
> >>> Of course, those higher business costs would be passed along by the
> >>> employers as higher product costs .. which causes higher inflation.
> >>>
> >>> So much for keeping his campaign promise to lower retail prices.
> >>>
> >>> -hh
> >>
> >> The ones working now just need work visas and they can continue working.
> >
> > They won't be able to, because the GOP believes that to issue work visas
> > would be considered to be "Amnesty" ... plus they'll be deported first.
> >
> >
> > -hh
>
> And they will accuse the people of eating the dogs and cats.

Snit never has anything so he chimes in with media bullshit that
everyone else has forgotten.

In article <vjcuop$1lg1b$4@dont-email.me>,
recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
>
> On 12/11/24 3:11 PM, Skeeter wrote:
> > In article <vjcr99$1ljtr$1@dont-email.me>,
> > recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
> >>
> >> On 12/11/24 2:58 PM, Skeeter wrote:
> >>> In article <vjcple$1mhot$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
> >>> says...
> >>>>
> >>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:6759b184$3$3620709
> >>>> $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
> >>>>
> >>>>> In article <vjc3b8$1i4rt$4@dont-email.me>,
> >>>>> recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 12/11/24 7:19 AM, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>>>>> {...}
> >>>>>>>>>> And do note that Musk is into Bitcoin - specifically DOGE
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> ============
> >>>>>>>>>> Elon Musk?s Bitcoin Holdings Surge to $2 Billion as Asset Crosses
> >>>>>>>>>> $100,000
> >>>>>>>>>> ...>>>
> >>>>>>>>> So? He's rich and can do that shit.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If crypto does happen, what's your response if Musk convinces Trump to
> >>>>>> put the money into DOGEcoin instead of the much more popular BITcoin?
> >>>>>> Because not all cyrpto is fungible... that's what's in it for Musk.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I don't really care as long as there is gas in my tank and food on my
> >>>>> table.
> >>>> ===========
> >>>> People voted for deportations but also cheap groceries, and you can?t
> >>>> have both. If you?re worried about groceries, hoo boy. Fifteen percent of
> >>>> construction workers, half of food workers, and our annual GDP will be
> >>>> tits-up, you morons. Do you like food? Grab your ankles! Many are
> >>>> essential workers, what part of essential don?t you understand? And they
> >>>> also spend money and pay taxes, dumbass.
> >>>
> >>> As long as they have work visas.
> >>
> >>
> >> GOP claims that that is "Amnesty" and has been blocking it.
> >> Next!
> >>
> > I don't care. It's legal and it works.
>
> So just how is that legislation going to be passed in a GOP triple
> majority?
>
>
> -hh

Work visas are already a thing.

On 2024-12-11, Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
> In article <6759fe38$0$3474736$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>>
>> On Dec 11, 2024 at 2:01:48 PM MST, "-hh" wrote <vjcujs$1lg1b$3@dont-email.me>:
>>
>> > On 12/11/24 3:07 PM, Skeeter wrote:
>> >> In article <vjcqqq$1lg1b$1@dont-email.me>,
>> >> recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
>> >>>
>> >>> On 12/11/24 10:42 AM, Skeeter wrote:
>> >>>> In article <vjcbbm$1jlje$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
>> >>>> says...
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote in
>> >>>>> news:p27jlj5kt9q7d5evijc2dqef3rf8lnhbba@4ax.com:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> -hh wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> BTW, here's another example of a lack of critical thinking skills
>> >>>>> within
>> >>>>>>> the GOP:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> [quote]
>> >>>>>>> Sen. Hawley spars with witness over impact of mass deportations:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Hawley: "Here's the Democrats' plan: take the 13M-plus illegals who
>> >>>>>>> are here, taking jobs...flood[ing] the labor force..."
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Witness: "They can't flood the labor force if they're already part of
>> >>>>>>> the labor force."
>> >>>>>>> [/quote]
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Only an idiot would think that's a winning rebuttal from Witness.
>> >>>>>> Millions of illegals have flooded the labor market, and still are.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Another example of a lack of critical thinking skills from -highhorse.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> His response will be deleted, unread.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> There is no flood of citizens that want those jobs.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> There will be and at higher wages.
>> >>>
>> >>> Sure, there's always going to be *some* uptake, but the low unemployment
>> >>> rate means that the current labor shortage will be made worse.
>> >>>
>> >>> citizens who would opt for those jobs, but the low unemployment rate
>> >>> shows that many jobs will have to go unfilled, which means that employer
>> >>> competition would increase those jobs' wages.
>> >>>
>> >>> Of course, those higher business costs would be passed along by the
>> >>> employers as higher product costs .. which causes higher inflation.
>> >>>
>> >>> So much for keeping his campaign promise to lower retail prices.
>> >>>
>> >>> -hh
>> >>
>> >> The ones working now just need work visas and they can continue working.
>> >
>> > They won't be able to, because the GOP believes that to issue work visas
>> > would be considered to be "Amnesty" ... plus they'll be deported first.
>> >
>> >
>> > -hh
>>
>> And they will accuse the people of eating the dogs and cats.
>
> Snit never has anything so he chimes in with media bullshit that
> everyone else has forgotten.

Snit projects just like the state run, radical left wing media.
They milk something, like Russia, Russia, Russia, until proven to be a lie
at which point that story gets dropped and they move seamlessly to the
next attack on Trump.
Snit does the same.
His stories keep morphing over time as well.

--
pothead

All about snit read below. Links courtesy of Ron:

Example of Snit trolling in real time:

<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.os.linux.advocacy/c/biFilzgCcVg/m/eUcNGw6lP7UJ>

All about the snit troll:

<https://web.archive.org/web/20181028000459/http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/snit.html>
<https://web.archive.org/web/20190529043314/http://cosmicpenguin.com/snitlist.html>
<https://web.archive.org/web/20190529062255/http://cosmicpenguin.com/snitLieMethods.html>

Snit wrote:
> On Dec 11, 2024 at 12:51:40 PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
> <6759ed13$13$3828$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>
>> In article <vjcps6$1mhot$3@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
>> says...
>>>
>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:6759b2d9$8$1895507
>>> $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>>
>>>> In article <vjcbbm$1jlje$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
>>>> says...
>>>>>
>>>>> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote in
>>>>> news:p27jlj5kt9q7d5evijc2dqef3rf8lnhbba@4ax.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> -hh wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BTW, here's another example of a lack of critical thinking skills
>>>>> within
>>>>>>> the GOP:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [quote]
>>>>>>> Sen. Hawley spars with witness over impact of mass deportations:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hawley: "Here's the Democrats' plan: take the 13M-plus illegals who
>>>>>>> are here, taking jobs...flood[ing] the labor force..."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Witness: "They can't flood the labor force if they're already part
>>> of
>>>>>>> the labor force."
>>>>>>> [/quote]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Only an idiot would think that's a winning rebuttal from Witness.
>>>>>> Millions of illegals have flooded the labor market, and still are.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another example of a lack of critical thinking skills from -
>>> highhorse.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> His response will be deleted, unread.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> There is no flood of citizens that want those jobs.
>>>>
>>>> There will be and at higher wages.
>>>>
>>>
>>> higher, MUCH higher prices for your food. And empty shelves until you
>>> can recruit and train those workers. From time to time some have tried
>>> those jobs, they flat cannot keep up with those immigrants.
>>
>> Your racism aside, if they have work visas there should be no problem.
>> See how that works?
>
> I do. You don't.
>
>
Racism is a crime, and crime is for black people.

Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
news:6759ed13$13$3828$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

> In article <vjcps6$1mhot$3@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
> says...
>>
>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:6759b2d9$8$1895507
>> $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>
>> > In article <vjcbbm$1jlje$2@dont-email.me>,
>> > bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...
>> >>
>> >> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote in
>> >> news:p27jlj5kt9q7d5evijc2dqef3rf8lnhbba@4ax.com:
>> >>
>> >> > -hh wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>BTW, here's another example of a lack of critical thinking
>> >> >>skills
>> >> within
>> >> >>the GOP:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>[quote]
>> >> >>Sen. Hawley spars with witness over impact of mass deportations:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Hawley: "Here's the Democrats' plan: take the 13M-plus illegals
>> >> >>who are here, taking jobs...flood[ing] the labor force..."
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Witness: "They can't flood the labor force if they're already
>> >> >>part
>> of
>> >> >>the labor force."
>> >> >>[/quote]
>> >> >
>> >> > Only an idiot would think that's a winning rebuttal from
>> >> > Witness. Millions of illegals have flooded the labor market, and
>> >> > still are.
>> >> >
>> >> > Another example of a lack of critical thinking skills from -
>> highhorse.
>> >> >
>> >> > His response will be deleted, unread.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> There is no flood of citizens that want those jobs.
>> >
>> > There will be and at higher wages.
>> >
>>
>> higher, MUCH higher prices for your food. And empty shelves until
>> you can recruit and train those workers. From time to time some have
>> tried those jobs, they flat cannot keep up with those immigrants.
>
> Your racism aside, if they have work visas there should be no problem.
> See how that works?
>

They refuse to issue work visas. There are virtually NO legal way to
immigate to the US. People have been on waiting lists for decades.

Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote in news:6759ee2e$2$3068683
$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

> On Dec 11, 2024 at 12:51:40 PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
> <6759ed13$13$3828$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>
>> In article <vjcps6$1mhot$3@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
>> says...
>>>
>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:6759b2d9$8$1895507
>>> $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>>
>>>> In article <vjcbbm$1jlje$2@dont-email.me>, bax02
_spamblock@baxcode.com
>>>> says...
>>>>>
>>>>> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote in
>>>>> news:p27jlj5kt9q7d5evijc2dqef3rf8lnhbba@4ax.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> -hh wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BTW, here's another example of a lack of critical thinking skills
>>>>> within
>>>>>>> the GOP:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [quote]
>>>>>>> Sen. Hawley spars with witness over impact of mass deportations:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hawley: "Here's the Democrats' plan: take the 13M-plus illegals
who
>>>>>>> are here, taking jobs...flood[ing] the labor force..."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Witness: "They can't flood the labor force if they're already
part
>>> of
>>>>>>> the labor force."
>>>>>>> [/quote]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Only an idiot would think that's a winning rebuttal from Witness.
>>>>>> Millions of illegals have flooded the labor market, and still are.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another example of a lack of critical thinking skills from -
>>> highhorse.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> His response will be deleted, unread.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> There is no flood of citizens that want those jobs.
>>>>
>>>> There will be and at higher wages.
>>>>
>>>
>>> higher, MUCH higher prices for your food. And empty shelves until
you
>>> can recruit and train those workers. From time to time some have
tried
>>> those jobs, they flat cannot keep up with those immigrants.
>>
>> Your racism aside, if they have work visas there should be no problem.
>> See how that works?
>
> I do. You don't.
>
==============
Why Legal Immigration Is Nearly Impossible

America traditionally had few immigration restrictions, but since the
1920s, the law has banned most aspiring immigrants. Today, fewer than 1
percent of people who want to move permanently to the United States can
do so legally. Immigrants cannot simply get an exception to immigrate any
more than restaurateurs in the 1920s could simply get an exception to
sell alcohol.

https://www.cato.org/policy-analysis/why-legal-immigration-nearly-
impossible#

Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
news:6759ee9a$5$3830$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

> In article <vjcple$1mhot$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
> says...
>>
>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:6759b184$3$3620709
>> $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>
>> > In article <vjc3b8$1i4rt$4@dont-email.me>,
>> > recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
>> >>
>> >> On 12/11/24 7:19 AM, Skeeter wrote:
>> >> > {...}
>> >> >>>> And do note that Musk is into Bitcoin - specifically DOGE
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> ============
>> >> >>>> Elon Musk?s Bitcoin Holdings Surge to $2 Billion as Asset
>> >> >>>> Crosses $100,000
>> >> >>>> ...>>>
>> >> >>> So? He's rich and can do that shit.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> If crypto does happen, what's your response if Musk convinces
>> >> Trump to put the money into DOGEcoin instead of the much more
>> >> popular BITcoin? Because not all cyrpto is fungible... that's
>> >> what's in it for Musk.
>> >
>> > I don't really care as long as there is gas in my tank and food on
>> > my table.
>> ===========
>> People voted for deportations but also cheap groceries, and you can?t
>> have both. If you?re worried about groceries, hoo boy. Fifteen
>> percent of construction workers, half of food workers, and our annual
>> GDP will be tits-up, you morons. Do you like food? Grab your ankles!
>> Many are essential workers, what part of essential don?t you
>> understand? And they also spend money and pay taxes, dumbass.
>
> As long as they have work visas.
>
They can't get work visas that don't exist.

On Dec 11, 2024 at 2:46:36 PM MST, "Baxter" wrote
<vjd17r$1nulf$3@dont-email.me>:

> Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote in news:6759ee2e$2$3068683
> $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>
>> On Dec 11, 2024 at 12:51:40 PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
>> <6759ed13$13$3828$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:
>>
>>> In article <vjcps6$1mhot$3@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
>>> says...
>>>>
>>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:6759b2d9$8$1895507
>>>> $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <vjcbbm$1jlje$2@dont-email.me>, bax02
> _spamblock@baxcode.com
>>>>> says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote in
>>>>>> news:p27jlj5kt9q7d5evijc2dqef3rf8lnhbba@4ax.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -hh wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> BTW, here's another example of a lack of critical thinking skills
>>>>>> within
>>>>>>>> the GOP:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [quote]
>>>>>>>> Sen. Hawley spars with witness over impact of mass deportations:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hawley: "Here's the Democrats' plan: take the 13M-plus illegals
> who
>>>>>>>> are here, taking jobs...flood[ing] the labor force..."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Witness: "They can't flood the labor force if they're already
> part
>>>> of
>>>>>>>> the labor force."
>>>>>>>> [/quote]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Only an idiot would think that's a winning rebuttal from Witness.
>>>>>>> Millions of illegals have flooded the labor market, and still are.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Another example of a lack of critical thinking skills from -
>>>> highhorse.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> His response will be deleted, unread.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is no flood of citizens that want those jobs.
>>>>>
>>>>> There will be and at higher wages.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> higher, MUCH higher prices for your food. And empty shelves until
> you
>>>> can recruit and train those workers. From time to time some have
> tried
>>>> those jobs, they flat cannot keep up with those immigrants.
>>>
>>> Your racism aside, if they have work visas there should be no problem.
>>> See how that works?
>>
>> I do. You don't.
>>
> ==============
> Why Legal Immigration Is Nearly Impossible
>
> America traditionally had few immigration restrictions, but since the
> 1920s, the law has banned most aspiring immigrants. Today, fewer than 1
> percent of people who want to move permanently to the United States can
> do so legally. Immigrants cannot simply get an exception to immigrate any
> more than restaurateurs in the 1920s could simply get an exception to
> sell alcohol.
>
> https://www.cato.org/policy-analysis/why-legal-immigration-nearly-
> impossible#

We as a country created a black market immigration system and then blame the
immigrants.

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They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On Dec 11, 2024 at 2:41:43 PM MST, "Baxter" wrote
<vjd0un$1nulf$2@dont-email.me>:

> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
> news:6759ed13$13$3828$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>
>> In article <vjcps6$1mhot$3@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
>> says...
>>>
>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:6759b2d9$8$1895507
>>> $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>>
>>>> In article <vjcbbm$1jlje$2@dont-email.me>,
>>>> bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...
>>>>>
>>>>> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote in
>>>>> news:p27jlj5kt9q7d5evijc2dqef3rf8lnhbba@4ax.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> -hh wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BTW, here's another example of a lack of critical thinking
>>>>>>> skills
>>>>> within
>>>>>>> the GOP:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [quote]
>>>>>>> Sen. Hawley spars with witness over impact of mass deportations:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hawley: "Here's the Democrats' plan: take the 13M-plus illegals
>>>>>>> who are here, taking jobs...flood[ing] the labor force..."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Witness: "They can't flood the labor force if they're already
>>>>>>> part
>>> of
>>>>>>> the labor force."
>>>>>>> [/quote]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Only an idiot would think that's a winning rebuttal from
>>>>>> Witness. Millions of illegals have flooded the labor market, and
>>>>>> still are.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another example of a lack of critical thinking skills from -
>>> highhorse.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> His response will be deleted, unread.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> There is no flood of citizens that want those jobs.
>>>>
>>>> There will be and at higher wages.
>>>>
>>>
>>> higher, MUCH higher prices for your food. And empty shelves until
>>> you can recruit and train those workers. From time to time some have
>>> tried those jobs, they flat cannot keep up with those immigrants.
>>
>> Your racism aside, if they have work visas there should be no problem.
>> See how that works?
>>
>
> They refuse to issue work visas. There are virtually NO legal way to
> immigate to the US. People have been on waiting lists for decades.

Unless you are Trump's wife. She broke immigration laws in 1996 and none of
his supporters care.

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On Dec 11, 2024 at 2:09:13 PM MST, "Skeeter" wrote
<6759ff7a$0$3620704$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>:

> In article <6759fe38$0$3474736$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>,
> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>>
>> On Dec 11, 2024 at 2:01:48 PM MST, "-hh" wrote <vjcujs$1lg1b$3@dont-email.me>:
>>
>>> On 12/11/24 3:07 PM, Skeeter wrote:
>>>> In article <vjcqqq$1lg1b$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>> recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/11/24 10:42 AM, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>> In article <vjcbbm$1jlje$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote in
>>>>>>> news:p27jlj5kt9q7d5evijc2dqef3rf8lnhbba@4ax.com:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -hh wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> BTW, here's another example of a lack of critical thinking skills
>>>>>>> within
>>>>>>>>> the GOP:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [quote]
>>>>>>>>> Sen. Hawley spars with witness over impact of mass deportations:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hawley: "Here's the Democrats' plan: take the 13M-plus illegals who
>>>>>>>>> are here, taking jobs...flood[ing] the labor force..."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Witness: "They can't flood the labor force if they're already part of
>>>>>>>>> the labor force."
>>>>>>>>> [/quote]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Only an idiot would think that's a winning rebuttal from Witness.
>>>>>>>> Millions of illegals have flooded the labor market, and still are.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Another example of a lack of critical thinking skills from -highhorse.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> His response will be deleted, unread.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is no flood of citizens that want those jobs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There will be and at higher wages.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure, there's always going to be *some* uptake, but the low unemployment
>>>>> rate means that the current labor shortage will be made worse.
>>>>>
>>>>> citizens who would opt for those jobs, but the low unemployment rate
>>>>> shows that many jobs will have to go unfilled, which means that employer
>>>>> competition would increase those jobs' wages.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, those higher business costs would be passed along by the
>>>>> employers as higher product costs .. which causes higher inflation.
>>>>>
>>>>> So much for keeping his campaign promise to lower retail prices.
>>>>>
>>>>> -hh
>>>>
>>>> The ones working now just need work visas and they can continue working.
>>>
>>> They won't be able to, because the GOP believes that to issue work visas
>>> would be considered to be "Amnesty" ... plus they'll be deported first.
>>>
>>>
>>> -hh
>>
>> And they will accuse the people of eating the dogs and cats.
>
> Snit never has anything so he chimes in with media bullshit that
> everyone else has forgotten.

The media forced Trump to say that. Riiiiiiight. Idiot.

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Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
news:6759f0e6$3$2783$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

> In article <vjcqqq$1lg1b$1@dont-email.me>,
> recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
>>
>> On 12/11/24 10:42 AM, Skeeter wrote:
>> > In article <vjcbbm$1jlje$2@dont-email.me>,
>> > bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...
>> >>
>> >> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote in
>> >> news:p27jlj5kt9q7d5evijc2dqef3rf8lnhbba@4ax.com:
>> >>
>> >>> -hh wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> BTW, here's another example of a lack of critical thinking
>> >>>> skills
>> >> within
>> >>>> the GOP:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> [quote]
>> >>>> Sen. Hawley spars with witness over impact of mass deportations:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hawley: "Here's the Democrats' plan: take the 13M-plus illegals
>> >>>> who are here, taking jobs...flood[ing] the labor force..."
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Witness: "They can't flood the labor force if they're already
>> >>>> part of the labor force."
>> >>>> [/quote]
>> >>>
>> >>> Only an idiot would think that's a winning rebuttal from Witness.
>> >>> Millions of illegals have flooded the labor market, and still
>> >>> are.
>> >>>
>> >>> Another example of a lack of critical thinking skills from
>> >>> -highhorse.
>> >>>
>> >>> His response will be deleted, unread.
>> >>
>> >> There is no flood of citizens that want those jobs.
>> >
>> > There will be and at higher wages.
>>
>> Sure, there's always going to be *some* uptake, but the low
>> unemployment rate means that the current labor shortage will be made
>> worse.
>>
>> citizens who would opt for those jobs, but the low unemployment rate
>> shows that many jobs will have to go unfilled, which means that
>> employer competition would increase those jobs' wages.
>>
>> Of course, those higher business costs would be passed along by the
>> employers as higher product costs .. which causes higher inflation.
>>
>> So much for keeping his campaign promise to lower retail prices.
>>
>> -hh
>
> The ones working now just need work visas and they can continue
> working.
>

Where are they going to get these non-existand work visas?

==============
Many people wonder why all immigrants do not just come to the United
States legally or simply apply for citizenship while living here without
authorization. These suggestions miss the point: There is no line
available for current undocumented immigrants and the �regular channels�
are largely not available to prospective immigrants who end up entering
the country through unauthorized channels. Even though more than 80
percent of undocumented immigrants have lived in the United States for
over 10 years, many could live out the rest of their lives without any
opportunity to become legal residents of this country.

No �line� is available for the vast majority of undocumented immigrants.

Immigration to the United States on a temporary or permanent basis is
generally limited to three different routes: employment, family
reunification, or humanitarian protection. Each of these legal avenues is
highly regulated and subject to numerical limitations and eligibility
requirements. As a result, most undocumented immigrants do not have the
necessary family or employment relationships and often cannot access
humanitarian protection, such as refugee or asylum status. This means
that no matter how long they have been in the United States, most
undocumented immigrants have no way of achieving legal status. Even those
who pay taxes, work hard, and contribute to their communities have no way
to �get in line� unless Congress creates a new pathway to legal status.

https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/why-don%E2%80%99t-
they-just-get-line

Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
news:6759f12d$0$2790$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:

> In article <vjcqt4$1lg1b$2@dont-email.me>,
> recscuba_google@huntzinger.com says...
>>
>> On 12/11/24 2:51 PM, Skeeter wrote:
>> > In article <vjcps6$1mhot$3@dont-email.me>,
>> > bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...
>> >>
>> >> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>> >> news:6759b2d9$8$1895507 $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>> >>
>> >>> In article <vjcbbm$1jlje$2@dont-email.me>,
>> >>> bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com says...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote in
>> >>>> news:p27jlj5kt9q7d5evijc2dqef3rf8lnhbba@4ax.com:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> -hh wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> BTW, here's another example of a lack of critical thinking
>> >>>>>> skills
>> >>>> within
>> >>>>>> the GOP:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> [quote]
>> >>>>>> Sen. Hawley spars with witness over impact of mass
>> >>>>>> deportations:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Hawley: "Here's the Democrats' plan: take the 13M-plus
>> >>>>>> illegals who are here, taking jobs...flood[ing] the labor
>> >>>>>> force..."
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Witness: "They can't flood the labor force if they're already
>> >>>>>> part
>> >> of
>> >>>>>> the labor force."
>> >>>>>> [/quote]
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Only an idiot would think that's a winning rebuttal from
>> >>>>> Witness. Millions of illegals have flooded the labor market,
>> >>>>> and still are.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Another example of a lack of critical thinking skills from -
>> >> highhorse.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> His response will be deleted, unread.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> There is no flood of citizens that want those jobs.
>> >>>
>> >>> There will be and at higher wages.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> higher, MUCH higher prices for your food. And empty shelves until
>> >> you can recruit and train those workers. From time to time some
>> >> have tried those jobs, they flat cannot keep up with those
>> >> immigrants.
>> >
>> > Your racism aside, if they have work visas there should be no
>> > problem. See how that works?
>>
>> But issuing work visas to illegals is called "Amnesty" and is opposed
>> by the GOP.
>>
>> So what's your next loophole escape hatch going to be? Just be
>> blatant about it and call for kickback bribes?
>>
>> -hh
>
> Work visas. Simple as that. It works and will continue working. If
> they have a work visa they are here legally.
>

The undocumented that are here now are barred from getting work visas
even if available.