On 2024-12-08 05:15, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>> You stated:
>>>>
>>>> "But it's [Apple's gear is] the same as it ever was, quirky."
>>>>
>>>> And yet you haven't been able to state a single example of this
>>>> so-called "quirkiness".
>>>
>>> There's not enough navigable interface on an iPhone or Mac.
>> Give an example.
>
>
> There's not a central navigation between apps. It's a most basic GUI
> function, that Apple stubbornly doesn't deal with.
>

What do you think you mean by "central navigation"?

Be specific.

On 2024-12-08 05:21, Joel wrote:
> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>
>>>>> certainly the [Apple's] hardware options are
>>>>> finite.
>>>>
>>>> Name a company whose hardware options *aren't* finite.
>>>>
>>>> Because it is grossly disingenuous to try to compare what one company
>>>> offers to the grand sum of the rest of the companies of that industry.
>>>
>>> Micro Center and Newegg each offer essentially limitless possibilities
>>> with hardware.
>>
>> I don't use Micro Center to know...but I do use NewEgg quite a bit, and
>> I can tell you that for them you are wrong because they sell products
>>from *many* vendors.
>>
>> As such, you're being grossly disingenuous by doing precisely what I
>> critiqued above: trying to compare *one* company's line of products
>> offers to effectively the grand sum of *everyone else* in the industry.
>>
>> Now if you didn't understand the point, here's a car analogy:
>>
>> "Tesla sucks because they don't offer as many product variations as
>> compared to the rest of the transportation industry combined".
>>
>> It doesn't take much thought to realize its a stupid claim to make.
>
>
> Did it occur to you that that only supports my point, since Apple is
> therefore the oddball? Heh. BTW, I bought my MacBook at Micro
> Center.
>

Apple is not analogous to either NewEgg or Micro Center...

....and that would be obvious by the fact that you can buy a MacBook AT
Micro Center.

HH's point is obvious and you're not bright enough to get it.

On 12/8/24 8:21 AM, Joel wrote:
> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>
>>>>> certainly the [Apple's] hardware options are
>>>>> finite.
>>>>
>>>> Name a company whose hardware options *aren't* finite.
>>>>
>>>> Because it is grossly disingenuous to try to compare what one company
>>>> offers to the grand sum of the rest of the companies of that industry.
>>>
>>> Micro Center and Newegg each offer essentially limitless possibilities
>>> with hardware.
>>
>> I don't use Micro Center to know...but I do use NewEgg quite a bit, and
>> I can tell you that for them you are wrong because they sell products
>> from *many* vendors.
>>
>> As such, you're being grossly disingenuous by doing precisely what I
>> critiqued above: trying to compare *one* company's line of products
>> offers to effectively the grand sum of *everyone else* in the industry.
>>
>> Now if you didn't understand the point, here's a car analogy:
>>
>> "Tesla sucks because they don't offer as many product variations as
>> compared to the rest of the transportation industry combined".
>>
>> It doesn't take much thought to realize its a stupid claim to make.
>
>
> Did it occur to you that that only supports my point, since Apple is
> therefore the oddball?

Laptops aren't DIY component assemblies, & are 80% of today's market:
try posting a NewEgg components list that builds one from scratch.

> Heh. BTW, I bought my MacBook at Micro Center.

So? The MacBook product line was discontinued a ~decade ago (3/2015).

-hh

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>>>> You stated:
>>>>>
>>>>> "But it's [Apple's gear is] the same as it ever was, quirky."
>>>>>
>>>>> And yet you haven't been able to state a single example of this
>>>>> so-called "quirkiness".
>>>>
>>>> There's not enough navigable interface on an iPhone or Mac.
>>> Give an example.
>>
>> There's not a central navigation between apps. It's a most basic GUI
>> function, that Apple stubbornly doesn't deal with.
>
>What do you think you mean by "central navigation"?
>
>Be specific.

Apple menus are not interconnected enough.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>On 2024-12-08 05:21, Joel wrote:
>> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "Tesla sucks because they don't offer as many product variations as
>>> compared to the rest of the transportation industry combined".
>>>
>>> It doesn't take much thought to realize its a stupid claim to make.
>>
>> Did it occur to you that that only supports my point, since Apple is
>> therefore the oddball? Heh. BTW, I bought my MacBook at Micro
>> Center.
>
>Apple is not analogous to either NewEgg or Micro Center...
>
>...and that would be obvious by the fact that you can buy a MacBook AT
>Micro Center.
>
>HH's point is obvious and you're not bright enough to get it.

Actually, it is, they are both purveyors of motherboards. Micro
Center will be happy to work with Apple, but you can buy any PC
imaginable.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

>>> "Tesla sucks because they don't offer as many product variations as
>>> compared to the rest of the transportation industry combined".
>>>
>>> It doesn't take much thought to realize its a stupid claim to make.
>>
>> Did it occur to you that that only supports my point, since Apple is
>> therefore the oddball?
>
>Laptops aren't DIY component assemblies, & are 80% of today's market:
>try posting a NewEgg components list that builds one from scratch.

Try getting the variety of laptops available as PCs that could
eventually run Linux, from Apple.

>> Heh. BTW, I bought my MacBook at Micro Center.
>
>So? The MacBook product line was discontinued a ~decade ago (3/2015).

When I bought it has nothing to do with Apple partnering with the
store's employee, genius. It was a good deal.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 12/8/24 3:47 PM, Joel wrote:
> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>
>>>> "Tesla sucks because they don't offer as many product variations as
>>>> compared to the rest of the transportation industry combined".
>>>>
>>>> It doesn't take much thought to realize its a stupid claim to make.
>>>
>>> Did it occur to you that that only supports my point, since Apple is
>>> therefore the oddball?
>>
>> Laptops aren't DIY component assemblies, & are 80% of today's market:
>> try posting a NewEgg components list that builds one from scratch.
>
>
> Try getting the variety of laptops available as PCs that could
> eventually run Linux, from Apple.

I've not kept track of how Linux is progressing for Apple ARM, but prior
to that, the variety of Apple laptops that could run Linux was 100%.

>>> Heh. BTW, I bought my MacBook at Micro Center.
>>
>> So? The MacBook product line was discontinued a ~decade ago (3/2015).
>
>
> When I bought it has nothing to do with Apple partnering with the
> store's employee, genius. It was a good deal.

Oh, so when did the story change to Macs being "overpriced"?

-hh

-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

>>>> Heh. BTW, I bought my MacBook at Micro Center.
>>>
>>> So? The MacBook product line was discontinued a ~decade ago (3/2015).
>>
>> When I bought it has nothing to do with Apple partnering with the
>> store's employee, genius. It was a good deal.
>
>Oh, so when did the story change to Macs being "overpriced"?

It was still overpriced even with the sale, but it was a good price
relative to the market price for a basic MacBook, at the time.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-12-08 12:41, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> On 2024-12-08 05:21, Joel wrote:
>>> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Tesla sucks because they don't offer as many product variations as
>>>> compared to the rest of the transportation industry combined".
>>>>
>>>> It doesn't take much thought to realize its a stupid claim to make.
>>>
>>> Did it occur to you that that only supports my point, since Apple is
>>> therefore the oddball? Heh. BTW, I bought my MacBook at Micro
>>> Center.
>>
>> Apple is not analogous to either NewEgg or Micro Center...
>>
>> ...and that would be obvious by the fact that you can buy a MacBook AT
>> Micro Center.
>>
>> HH's point is obvious and you're not bright enough to get it.
>
>
> Actually, it is, they are both purveyors of motherboards. Micro
> Center will be happy to work with Apple, but you can buy any PC
> imaginable.
>

Apple is not a "purveyor of motherboards", doofus.

On 2024-12-08 12:47, Joel wrote:
> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>
>>>> "Tesla sucks because they don't offer as many product variations as
>>>> compared to the rest of the transportation industry combined".
>>>>
>>>> It doesn't take much thought to realize its a stupid claim to make.
>>>
>>> Did it occur to you that that only supports my point, since Apple is
>>> therefore the oddball?
>>
>> Laptops aren't DIY component assemblies, & are 80% of today's market:
>> try posting a NewEgg components list that builds one from scratch.
>
>
> Try getting the variety of laptops available as PCs that could
> eventually run Linux, from Apple.
>
>
>>> Heh. BTW, I bought my MacBook at Micro Center.
>>
>> So? The MacBook product line was discontinued a ~decade ago (3/2015).
>
>
> When I bought it has nothing to do with Apple partnering with the
> store's employee, genius. It was a good deal.
>

Again, you're trying to compare ONE company to EVERY OTHER COMPANY in
the same product space.

On 2024-12-08 12:37, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>> You stated:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "But it's [Apple's gear is] the same as it ever was, quirky."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And yet you haven't been able to state a single example of this
>>>>>> so-called "quirkiness".
>>>>>
>>>>> There's not enough navigable interface on an iPhone or Mac.
>>>> Give an example.
>>>
>>> There's not a central navigation between apps. It's a most basic GUI
>>> function, that Apple stubbornly doesn't deal with.
>>
>> What do you think you mean by "central navigation"?
>>
>> Be specific.
>
>
> Apple menus are not interconnected enough.
>

In what way are menus on Windows OR Linux "interconnected enough".

Give...

....a specific...

....example.

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>>> central navigation between apps [is] a most basic GUI
>>>> function, that Apple stubbornly doesn't deal with.
>>>
>>> What do you think you mean by "central navigation"?
>>>
>>> Be specific.
>>
>> Apple menus are not interconnected enough.
>
>In what way are menus on Windows OR Linux "interconnected enough".
>
>Give...
>
>...a specific...
>
>...example.

Well, we have an example of how Linux can completely flop at this, in
Larry from COLA's idiotic computer. He has no desktop environment at
all. Apple makes a decent stab at it, but fails, because they don't
hire programmers. Microsoft and Adobe do all the real work, and BSD.

Face it, you're talking to a jackass on the Internet but one who knows
what the fuck he's talking about.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>> Apple is not analogous to either NewEgg or Micro Center...
>>
>> Actually, it is, they are both purveyors of motherboards. Micro
>> Center will be happy to work with Apple, but you can buy any PC
>> imaginable.
>
>Apple is not a "purveyor of motherboards", doofus.

Then what does the SoC sit on, doofus?

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>On 2024-12-08 12:47, Joel wrote:
>> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>> "Tesla sucks because they don't offer as many product variations as
>>>>> compared to the rest of the transportation industry combined".
>>>>>
>>>>> It doesn't take much thought to realize its a stupid claim to make.
>>>>
>>>> Did it occur to you that that only supports my point, since Apple is
>>>> therefore the oddball?
>>>
>>> Laptops aren't DIY component assemblies, & are 80% of today's market:
>>> try posting a NewEgg components list that builds one from scratch.
>>
>> Try getting the variety of laptops available as PCs that could
>> eventually run Linux, from Apple.
>>
>>>> Heh. BTW, I bought my MacBook at Micro Center.
>>>
>>> So? The MacBook product line was discontinued a ~decade ago (3/2015).
>>
>> When I bought it has nothing to do with Apple partnering with the
>> store's employee, genius. It was a good deal.
>
>Again, you're trying to compare ONE company to EVERY OTHER COMPANY in
>the same product space.

I'm doing so because the Mac is the Delsym of computers. A pretty
good facsimile of a real PC but yet missing some basic, foundational,
natural existence. Dexers getting high on Delsym because it's what
they see at Walgreens and CVS, and make some ass-backward
rationalization for why they need that odd-duck product to trip on
DXM, is the same exact phenomenon as the weirdo buying a fuckin'
expensive Mac, because they suck Apple's dick so hard.

Go lease a car, dummy.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-12-08 15:57, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>>> central navigation between apps [is] a most basic GUI
>>>>> function, that Apple stubbornly doesn't deal with.
>>>>
>>>> What do you think you mean by "central navigation"?
>>>>
>>>> Be specific.
>>>
>>> Apple menus are not interconnected enough.
>>
>> In what way are menus on Windows OR Linux "interconnected enough".
>>
>> Give...
>>
>> ...a specific...
>>
>> ...example.
>
>
> Well, we have an example of how Linux can completely flop at this, in
> Larry from COLA's idiotic computer. He has no desktop environment at
> all. Apple makes a decent stab at it, but fails, because they don't
> hire programmers. Microsoft and Adobe do all the real work, and BSD.
>
> Face it, you're talking to a jackass on the Internet but one who knows
> what the fuck he's talking about.
And yet you won't actually SAY anything.

Give a specific example of how menus on Windows OR Linux are
"interconnected" in a way that macOS is not.

Put up or shut up.

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>>>>> central navigation between apps [is] a most basic GUI
>>>>>> function, that Apple stubbornly doesn't deal with.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you think you mean by "central navigation"?
>>>>>
>>>>> Be specific.
>>>>
>>>> Apple menus are not interconnected enough.
>>>
>>> In what way are menus on Windows OR Linux "interconnected enough".
>>>
>>> Give...
>>>
>>> ...a specific...
>>>
>>> ...example.
>>
>> Well, we have an example of how Linux can completely flop at this, in
>> Larry from COLA's idiotic computer. He has no desktop environment at
>> all. Apple makes a decent stab at it, but fails, because they don't
>> hire programmers. Microsoft and Adobe do all the real work, and BSD.
>>
>> Face it, you're talking to a jackass on the Internet but one who knows
>> what the fuck he's talking about.
>And yet you won't actually SAY anything.
>
>Give a specific example of how menus on Windows OR Linux are
>"interconnected" in a way that macOS is not.
>
>Put up or shut up.

Navigating Apple's GUI, particularly the phone iteration of their
weirdness, just isn't like Win10 or 11, or the Cinnamon DE on Linux -
nor the "easy mode" of Samsung.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-12-08 15:59, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>> Apple is not analogous to either NewEgg or Micro Center...
>>>
>>> Actually, it is, they are both purveyors of motherboards. Micro
>>> Center will be happy to work with Apple, but you can buy any PC
>>> imaginable.
>>
>> Apple is not a "purveyor of motherboards", doofus.
>
>
> Then what does the SoC sit on, doofus?
>

To be a "purveyor" of something is to indicate that you sell that thing
ON ITS OWN.

Apple doesn't sell motherboards. They sell computers.

Just like Maytag isn't a "purveyor of electric motors" just because
washing machines have an electric motor in them.

On 2024-12-08 16:04, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> On 2024-12-08 12:47, Joel wrote:
>>> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> "Tesla sucks because they don't offer as many product variations as
>>>>>> compared to the rest of the transportation industry combined".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It doesn't take much thought to realize its a stupid claim to make.
>>>>>
>>>>> Did it occur to you that that only supports my point, since Apple is
>>>>> therefore the oddball?
>>>>
>>>> Laptops aren't DIY component assemblies, & are 80% of today's market:
>>>> try posting a NewEgg components list that builds one from scratch.
>>>
>>> Try getting the variety of laptops available as PCs that could
>>> eventually run Linux, from Apple.
>>>
>>>>> Heh. BTW, I bought my MacBook at Micro Center.
>>>>
>>>> So? The MacBook product line was discontinued a ~decade ago (3/2015).
>>>
>>> When I bought it has nothing to do with Apple partnering with the
>>> store's employee, genius. It was a good deal.
>>
>> Again, you're trying to compare ONE company to EVERY OTHER COMPANY in
>> the same product space.
>
>
> I'm doing so because the Mac is the Delsym of computers. A pretty
> good facsimile of a real PC but yet missing some basic, foundational,
> natural existence. Dexers getting high on Delsym because it's what
> they see at Walgreens and CVS, and make some ass-backward
> rationalization for why they need that odd-duck product to trip on
> DXM, is the same exact phenomenon as the weirdo buying a fuckin'
> expensive Mac, because they suck Apple's dick so hard.
>
> Go lease a car, dummy.
>

What is "basic, foundational, natural existence" even suppose to mean in
this context?

What is Apple supposedly "missing"?

On 2024-12-08 16:19, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>> central navigation between apps [is] a most basic GUI
>>>>>>> function, that Apple stubbornly doesn't deal with.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you think you mean by "central navigation"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Be specific.
>>>>>
>>>>> Apple menus are not interconnected enough.
>>>>
>>>> In what way are menus on Windows OR Linux "interconnected enough".
>>>>
>>>> Give...
>>>>
>>>> ...a specific...
>>>>
>>>> ...example.
>>>
>>> Well, we have an example of how Linux can completely flop at this, in
>>> Larry from COLA's idiotic computer. He has no desktop environment at
>>> all. Apple makes a decent stab at it, but fails, because they don't
>>> hire programmers. Microsoft and Adobe do all the real work, and BSD.
>>>
>>> Face it, you're talking to a jackass on the Internet but one who knows
>>> what the fuck he's talking about.
>> And yet you won't actually SAY anything.
>>
>> Give a specific example of how menus on Windows OR Linux are
>> "interconnected" in a way that macOS is not.
>>
>> Put up or shut up.
>
>
> Navigating Apple's GUI, particularly the phone iteration of their
> weirdness, just isn't like Win10 or 11, or the Cinnamon DE on Linux -
> nor the "easy mode" of Samsung.
>

Do you not know what the words "specific example" mean?

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>>>> Apple is not analogous to either NewEgg or Micro Center...
>>>>
>>>> Actually, it is, they are both purveyors of motherboards. Micro
>>>> Center will be happy to work with Apple, but you can buy any PC
>>>> imaginable.
>>>
>>> Apple is not a "purveyor of motherboards", doofus.
>>
>> Then what does the SoC sit on, doofus?
>
>To be a "purveyor" of something is to indicate that you sell that thing
>ON ITS OWN.
>
>Apple doesn't sell motherboards. They sell computers.
>
>Just like Maytag isn't a "purveyor of electric motors" just because
>washing machines have an electric motor in them.

Do you even hear yourself yammering, there?

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>>>>> Heh. BTW, I bought my MacBook at Micro Center.
>>>>>
>>>>> So? The MacBook product line was discontinued a ~decade ago (3/2015).
>>>>
>>>> When I bought it has nothing to do with Apple partnering with the
>>>> store's employee, genius. It was a good deal.
>>>
>>> Again, you're trying to compare ONE company to EVERY OTHER COMPANY in
>>> the same product space.
>>
>> I'm doing so because the Mac is the Delsym of computers. A pretty
>> good facsimile of a real PC but yet missing some basic, foundational,
>> natural existence. Dexers getting high on Delsym because it's what
>> they see at Walgreens and CVS, and make some ass-backward
>> rationalization for why they need that odd-duck product to trip on
>> DXM, is the same exact phenomenon as the weirdo buying a fuckin'
>> expensive Mac, because they suck Apple's dick so hard.
>>
>> Go lease a car, dummy.
>
>What is "basic, foundational, natural existence" even suppose to mean in
>this context?
>
>What is Apple supposedly "missing"?

Non-gimmicky computers.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

>>> Give a specific example of how menus on Windows OR Linux are
>>> "interconnected" in a way that macOS is not.
>>>
>>> Put up or shut up.
>>
>> Navigating Apple's GUI, particularly the phone iteration of their
>> weirdness, just isn't like Win10 or 11, or the Cinnamon DE on Linux -
>> nor the "easy mode" of Samsung.
>
>Do you not know what the words "specific example" mean?

Windows 10 and 11, and the Cinnamon DE on Linux, are specific examples
of GUIs.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-12-08 16:49, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>> Give a specific example of how menus on Windows OR Linux are
>>>> "interconnected" in a way that macOS is not.
>>>>
>>>> Put up or shut up.
>>>
>>> Navigating Apple's GUI, particularly the phone iteration of their
>>> weirdness, just isn't like Win10 or 11, or the Cinnamon DE on Linux -
>>> nor the "easy mode" of Samsung.
>>
>> Do you not know what the words "specific example" mean?
>
>
> Windows 10 and 11, and the Cinnamon DE on Linux, are specific examples
> of GUIs.
>

But you're supposed to provide a specific example to support your claim:

"Apple menus are not interconnected enough."

So do so.

Put up or shut up.

On 2024-12-08 16:47, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>> Apple is not analogous to either NewEgg or Micro Center...
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually, it is, they are both purveyors of motherboards. Micro
>>>>> Center will be happy to work with Apple, but you can buy any PC
>>>>> imaginable.
>>>>
>>>> Apple is not a "purveyor of motherboards", doofus.
>>>
>>> Then what does the SoC sit on, doofus?
>>
>> To be a "purveyor" of something is to indicate that you sell that thing
>> ON ITS OWN.
>>
>> Apple doesn't sell motherboards. They sell computers.
>>
>> Just like Maytag isn't a "purveyor of electric motors" just because
>> washing machines have an electric motor in them.
>
>
> Do you even hear yourself yammering, there?
>

What part of my argument don't you understand?

Would you call Maytag a "purveyor of electric motors"?

Yes or no.

On 2024-12-08 16:48, Joel wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>> Heh. BTW, I bought my MacBook at Micro Center.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So? The MacBook product line was discontinued a ~decade ago (3/2015).
>>>>>
>>>>> When I bought it has nothing to do with Apple partnering with the
>>>>> store's employee, genius. It was a good deal.
>>>>
>>>> Again, you're trying to compare ONE company to EVERY OTHER COMPANY in
>>>> the same product space.
>>>
>>> I'm doing so because the Mac is the Delsym of computers. A pretty
>>> good facsimile of a real PC but yet missing some basic, foundational,
>>> natural existence. Dexers getting high on Delsym because it's what
>>> they see at Walgreens and CVS, and make some ass-backward
>>> rationalization for why they need that odd-duck product to trip on
>>> DXM, is the same exact phenomenon as the weirdo buying a fuckin'
>>> expensive Mac, because they suck Apple's dick so hard.
>>>
>>> Go lease a car, dummy.
>>
>> What is "basic, foundational, natural existence" even suppose to mean in
>> this context?
>>
>> What is Apple supposedly "missing"?
>
>
> Non-gimmicky computers.
>

Another non-answer.