'The damage Biden has done'

<https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/daily-memo/3249497/damage-joe-biden-has-done/>

'THE DAMAGE BIDEN HAS DONE. Joe Biden will be president for the next 47
days. That’s enough to make anyone nervous. The 82-year-old president
had to be forced, by his own party, to withdraw from the 2024 race
because he is no longer mentally and physically up to the job. But, of
course, he is still in the job. With a world full of dangerous
conflicts, that Biden is in charge for 47 more days, especially with
Vice President Kamala Harris in a deep post-defeat funk, is deeply
worrisome.

The immediate problem will end on Jan. 20, 2025, when Biden leaves
office. But the United States, and the Democratic Party, will be dealing
with the damage Biden leaves behind for years. There is a reason voters,
for 40 years, were never interested in electing the openly ambitious
Biden president of the U.S. — until the bizarre circumstances of the
2020 election. They knew for decades that he would not be a good
president. And he has proven them right.

Leave the damage Biden has done to the U.S. — the massive migrant
influx, the decline in the standard of living for millions of people,
and the chaos abroad — for another day. Right now, a new analysis shows
the damage Biden has done to his party, and it is immense.

Exit polls show that in the 2024 presidential election, 35% of voters
identified as Republicans, while 34% identified as independents, and 31%
identified as Democrats. In addition to a big jump in the number of
self-identified independents, the news is that in 2024, Democrats
slipped to third place in party ID.

“For the first time since the Watergate era, independents surpassed one
of the major political parties to rank second in terms of party
identification,” writes Republican pollster David Winston, who has just
finished an in-depth study of the election results. “In this
presidential election, the percentage of the electorate that
self-identified as Democrats came in behind independents. … This means
that, in this election, Democrats are de facto more a third party than a
dominant party in the electorate.”

Because of the Democrats’ slide, Republicans had a 4-point advantage in
party ID this year, 35% to 31%. According to Winston, that is the first
time the GOP has had such an advantage in 10 presidential elections.
Yes, 10 presidential elections.

The Democrats’ fall between 2020 and 2024 was the party’s worst
performance in many years. But in terms of party identification,
Democrats have been in decline since former President Barack Obama was
first elected. In 2008, Democratic Party ID was 39%, a high that equaled
the party’s performance in the Bill Clinton years. But in 2012,
Democratic Party ID ticked down to 38%. Then, in 2016, it slipped to
36%. In 2020, it moved up a notch to 37%. And then, in 2024, it plunged
to 31%. That 6-point drop was bigger even than the Republican Party’s
decline in the final, disastrous years of the George W. Bush presidency.

“To provide a sense of scale of the size of this shift, a comparison of
37% of the 2020 presidential turnout to 31% of the 2024 turnout shows
there were over 10 million fewer self-identified Democrats voting in
this last election,” Winston writes. “Independents went the other
direction, going from 27% in 2020 to 34% in 2024, which resulted in an
increase in self-identified independents of about 10 million.”

What does it mean? The simplest explanation is that Biden and his fellow
Democrats made the party so unattractive that millions of
self-identified Democrats decided to call themselves independents
instead. That doesn’t mean they won’t call themselves Democrats again in
the future. But it does suggest that they were deeply unhappy with the
Democratic Party in 2024. Here is how Winston addresses the issue:

The big question that emerges from this election is what happened to the
Democratic Party? In the last 10 presidential elections, the Democrats
made up the largest portion of the electorate in terms of party
identification (being even at 37% with Republicans for first in 2004).
In this election, not only was that streak broken, but Democrats fell
behind independents as well — into third place. The clear question from
this election is — where did those Democrats go? There are two
possibilities. First, they just didn’t show up to vote, while
independent turnout increased significantly. This theory would
contradict the public survey data done prior to the election that said
Democrats were very motivated to vote, while independents were not. The
other is that many Democrats changed their party identification to
independent. Either way, it shows an electorate that moved away from
Democrats as a result of Biden policies and voted for change. Democrats
will need to think through how to bring voters back, which is very
different than forming the next version of opposition.

We know that when voters become disgusted with one party or the other,
some of them stop identifying themselves as members of that party. That
is what happened to Democrats over the four years of Joe Biden’s
presidency. The burden of Biden’s poor performance was too great for
Kamala Harris to overcome, especially since she showed no intention to
move away from Biden’s record or plans to do so. The short version is:
Joe Biden was a terrible president. His party paid the price. Now,
they’ll have to come up with a real, not a rhetorical, way to move
forward'

John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:cgdbljh1gt4tj5un86pqiiseup94sbnb12@4ax.com:

> 'The damage Biden has done'
>
> <https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/daily-memo/3249497/damage-joe-biden
> -has-done/>
>
> 'THE DAMAGE BIDEN HAS DONE.

Indeed, look what Biden has done.

US job gains surge past expectations,
wage growth quickens
June 7, 2024
https://tinyurl.com/yjt363vs

Another month of robust US job growth
points to continued economic strength
April 5, 2024
https://tinyurl.com/dd2c2tbb

Fox hosts forced to grudgingly admit
economy booming under Biden
Feb 2024
https://tinyurl.com/3bja7r9u

Almost 2 Million US Manufacturing
Jobs May Go Unfilled
April 3, 2024
https://tinyurl.com/hxc4h7xn

Americans Defy Inflation Fears As
Holiday Weekend Travel Hits Record High
May 27, 2024
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/2024-memorial-day-weekend-travel-record_n_
66548896e4b05212274910c3

Spring Break 2024 Travel Surge Breaks Records
Apr 4, 2024
https://www.getzippin.com/blog/spring-break-2024

Job growth zoomed in March as payrolls
jumped by 303,000 and unemployment
dropped to 3.8%
APR 5 2024
https://tinyurl.com/35u6fk26

U.S. Employers Added 303,000 Jobs in
39th Straight Month of Growth
Apr 3 2024
https://tinyurl.com/4yymx35v

Cruise Bookings Hit Record Levels in 2024
January 12, 2024
https://tinyurl.com/2k6r64kc

Holiday spending sets new record online
01/04/24
https://tinyurl.com/3yhwh8bh

US new vehicle sales up 12.8% in 2023
Dec 22 2023
https://tinyurl.com/3za7fwdb

February auto sales jump 24 per cent
to highest-ever sales for the month
March 4, 2024
https://tinyurl.com/27uwvcps

U.S. home sales rise by most in over 3 years
January 26, 2024
https://tinyurl.com/mrmta8wz

Cruise bookings are so hot that some
lines are running out of inventory
Oct. 02, 2023
https://tinyurl.com/bddwrd8n

Boat Sales Are on the Rise in U.S.
December 6, 2023
https://tinyurl.com/2rvhtbep

The US economy just grew at its
fastest rate since 1984
Jan 27, 2022
https://tinyurl.com/sj78azfu

Joe Biden Has Given Us the Greatest
Economy Ever
MAY 10, 2023
https://tinyurl.com/5emjz6dy

US economy delivers blockbuster
performance in third quarter
By Lucia Mutikani
October 26, 2023
https://tinyurl.com/bddek5f8

Eyepopping Factory Construction Boom in the US
Dec 2, 2023
https://tinyurl.com/asy8pbrm

Factory construction spending booms under Biden
Jan 4, 2024
https://tinyurl.com/3kwpfwpd

Construction�s manufacturing boom
August 7, 2023
https://tinyurl.com/4hpu76zt

U.S. Factory Construction in a Historic Spike
Nov 4, 2023
https://tinyurl.com/bde44azc

New lithium battery factory in Arizona
Oct 26 2023
https://tinyurl.com/yc4f7vcp

New lithium battery factory in N Carolina
Nov 28 2023
https://tinyurl.com/bdz2vn8s

New lithium battery factory in S Carolina
Mar 22 2023
https://tinyurl.com/ycyzrt9h

New lithium battery factory in Utah
Aug 25 2023
https://tinyurl.com/mr3pwabh

Army Driving Forward with Electric Vehicle Plans
2/21/2019
http://tinyurl.com/5xyyb6jn

U.S. Military Wants Its Vehicles to Go Electric
2/4/2022
http://tinyurl.com/3czjuwcc

Americans Buy Nearly 1.2 Million
Electric Vehicles in 2023
Jan. 16, 2024
http://tinyurl.com/yjkf9dmm

America�s economic outperformance
is a marvel to behold
Apr 13th 2023
https://tinyurl.com/2fjz8yu6

US Inflation Is Set to Fade in
2024 as Goods Prices Keep Falling
January 10, 2024
https://tinyurl.com/mrnkz6km

America�s Image Abroad Rebounds With
Transition From Trump to Biden
JUNE 10, 2021
https://tinyurl.com/bp9ckp48

US Consumer Confidence Increased in January
2024-01-30
https://tinyurl.com/5yybbsby

Biden Is Much More Popular Than Trump Around the World
Feb 21, 2023
https://tinyurl.com/mrx35k9a

The lowest unemployment rate in five decades
Sept 4 2023
https://tinyurl.com/792htzff

May home sales rise with near record
June 22 2023
https://tinyurl.com/4r2dwm2x

Americans are setting vacation records
and splurging at bars, restaurants and
hotels
May 15, 2023
https://tinyurl.com/2p9bv2cp

US economy added 336,000 jobs last month,
almost twice what was expected
October 6, 2023
https://tinyurl.com/c3e8mk7u

People are spending more on travel this summer
They�re traveling for longer amounts of time too
July 18 2023
https://tinyurl.com/2m8nyny2

Vacation Confidence 2023: Americans Spending
More Than $200 Billion on Summer Vacation
https://tinyurl.com/bwzwtv7u

US boat sales expected to remain strong in 2023
Feb 10 2023
https://tinyurl.com/3em3pnxb

US auto sales to rise in May as
inventories improve
May 25, 2023
https://tinyurl.com/553e6p3e

RV Industry Sets Retail Sales Record
Feb 8, 2022
https://tinyurl.com/murzxn6z

Inflation is finally falling sharply
July 17 2023
https://tinyurl.com/4ayd876z

US economy added 209,000 jobs in June
July 13 2023
https://tinyurl.com/4w8c625b

California home sales at highest point in 8 months
June 27, 2023
https://tinyurl.com/yy7y69a4

On 12/8/2024 7:22 AM, bad sector wrote:
> On 12/8/24 10:08, John Smyth wrote:
>> 'The damage Biden has done'
>>
>> <https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/daily-memo/3249497/damage-joe-biden-has-
>> done/>
>>
>> 'THE DAMAGE BIDEN HAS DONE. Joe Biden will be president for the next 47
>> days. That’s enough to make anyone nervous. The 82-year-old president
>> had to be forced, by his own party, to withdraw from the 2024 race
>> because he is no longer mentally and physically up to the job. But, of
>> course, he is still in the job. With a world full of dangerous
>> conflicts, that Biden is in charge for 47 more days, especially with
>> Vice President Kamala Harris in a deep post-defeat funk, is deeply
>> worrisome.
>>
>> The immediate problem will end on Jan. 20, 2025, when Biden leaves
>> office. But the United States, and the Democratic Party, will be dealing
>> with the damage Biden leaves behind for years. There is a reason voters,
>> for 40 years, were never interested in electing the openly ambitious
>> Biden president of the U.S. — until the bizarre circumstances of the
>> 2020 election. They knew for decades that he would not be a good
>> president. And he has proven them right.
>>
>> Leave the damage Biden has done to the U.S. — the massive migrant
>> influx, the decline in the standard of living for millions of people,
>> and the chaos abroad — for another day. Right now, a new analysis shows
>> the damage Biden has done to his party, and it is immense.
>>
>> Exit polls show that in the 2024 presidential election, 35% of voters
>> identified as Republicans, while 34% identified as independents, and 31%
>> identified as Democrats. In addition to a big jump in the number of
>> self-identified independents, the news is that in 2024, Democrats
>> slipped to third place in party ID.
>>
>> “For the first time since the Watergate era, independents surpassed one
>> of the major political parties to rank second in terms of party
>> identification,” writes Republican pollster David Winston, who has just
>> finished an in-depth study of the election results. “In this
>> presidential election, the percentage of the electorate that
>> self-identified as Democrats came in behind independents. … This means
>> that, in this election, Democrats are de facto more a third party than a
>> dominant party in the electorate.”
>>
>> Because of the Democrats’ slide, Republicans had a 4-point advantage in
>> party ID this year, 35% to 31%. According to Winston, that is the first
>> time the GOP has had such an advantage in 10 presidential elections.
>> Yes, 10 presidential elections.
>>
>> The Democrats’ fall between 2020 and 2024 was the party’s worst
>> performance in many years. But in terms of party identification,
>> Democrats have been in decline since former President Barack Obama was
>> first elected. In 2008, Democratic Party ID was 39%, a high that equaled
>> the party’s performance in the Bill Clinton years. But in 2012,
>> Democratic Party ID ticked down to 38%. Then, in 2016, it slipped to
>> 36%. In 2020, it moved up a notch to 37%. And then, in 2024, it plunged
>> to 31%. That 6-point drop was bigger even than the Republican Party’s
>> decline in the final, disastrous years of the George W. Bush presidency.
>>
>> “To provide a sense of scale of the size of this shift, a comparison of
>> 37% of the 2020 presidential turnout to 31% of the 2024 turnout shows
>> there were over 10 million fewer self-identified Democrats voting in
>> this last election,” Winston writes. “Independents went the other
>> direction, going from 27% in 2020 to 34% in 2024, which resulted in an
>> increase in self-identified independents of about 10 million.”
>>
>> What does it mean? The simplest explanation is that Biden and his fellow
>> Democrats made the party so unattractive that millions of
>> self-identified Democrats decided to call themselves independents
>> instead. That doesn’t mean they won’t call themselves Democrats again in
>> the future. But it does suggest that they were deeply unhappy with the
>> Democratic Party in 2024. Here is how Winston addresses the issue:
>>
>> The big question that emerges from this election is what happened to the
>> Democratic Party? In the last 10 presidential elections, the Democrats
>> made up the largest portion of the electorate in terms of party
>> identification (being even at 37% with Republicans for first in 2004).
>> In this election, not only was that streak broken, but Democrats fell
>> behind independents as well — into third place. The clear question from
>> this election is — where did those Democrats go? There are two
>> possibilities. First, they just didn’t show up to vote, while
>> independent turnout increased significantly. This theory would
>> contradict the public survey data done prior to the election that said
>> Democrats were very motivated to vote, while independents were not. The
>> other is that many Democrats changed their party identification to
>> independent. Either way, it shows an electorate that moved away from
>> Democrats as a result of Biden policies and voted for change. Democrats
>> will need to think through how to bring voters back, which is very
>> different than forming the next version of opposition.
>>
>> We know that when voters become disgusted with one party or the other,
>> some of them stop identifying themselves as members of that party. That
>> is what happened to Democrats over the four years of Joe Biden’s
>> presidency. The burden of Biden’s poor performance was too great for
>> Kamala Harris to overcome, especially since she showed no intention to
>> move away from Biden’s record or plans to do so. The short version is:
>> Joe Biden was a terrible president. His party paid the price. Now,
>> they’ll have to come up with a real, not a rhetorical, way to move
>> forward'
>
> Sans-prejudice, why don't you remove comp.os.linux.advocay and
> alt.computer.workshop from your crossposted ng's, or am I a harsh judge of
> character?
The evidence so far says you're an excellent judge of character. "John Smyth," a
pseudonym, is a shitbag, if he's even a real person. I think "he" might be a
neo-Nazi posting 'bot. He never responds to anyone, and all of his posts go to
comp.os.linux.advocacy and alt.computer.workshop (which I have restored to the
cross-posts this one time only because I'm afraid that otherwise you won't see
the reply). If you ever see what appears to be a reply (subject line starts with
"Re:") from "John Smyth," it's a forgery, many of which are from me. Numerous
Usenet participants have asked the shitbag "Smyth" to stop posting his Nazi
rants to the computer groups, and not only does "he" keep doing it, he doesn't
even reply to refuse the request.

What I usually do when I want to reply to the post of some shitbag like "Smyth"
who includes unrelated newsgroups just to be an annoying shitbag is to insert
"Oh.no.this.most.certainly.is.NOT.going.to." in front of the newsgroup name,
e.g. Oh.no.this.most.certainly.is.NOT.going.to.alt.computer.workshop. However,
as I said above, I expressly included the two computer-related newsgroups this
time to ensure that you'll see a sympathetic reply from at least one other
person who would like to bury the business end of a pick mattock in "Smyth's"
forehead.

On Dec 8, 2024 at 3:00:27 PM MST, "Rudy Canoza" wrote
<0Go5P.53042$OuJ1.45433@fx16.iad>:

> On 12/8/2024 7:22 AM, bad sector wrote:
>> On 12/8/24 10:08, John Smyth wrote:
>>> 'The damage Biden has done'
>>>
>>> <https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/daily-memo/3249497/damage-joe-biden-has-done/>
>>>
>>> 'THE DAMAGE BIDEN HAS DONE. Joe Biden will be president for the next 47
>>> days. That’s enough to make anyone nervous. The 82-year-old president
>>> had to be forced, by his own party, to withdraw from the 2024 race
>>> because he is no longer mentally and physically up to the job. But, of
>>> course, he is still in the job. With a world full of dangerous
>>> conflicts, that Biden is in charge for 47 more days, especially with
>>> Vice President Kamala Harris in a deep post-defeat funk, is deeply
>>> worrisome.
>>>
>>> The immediate problem will end on Jan. 20, 2025, when Biden leaves
>>> office. But the United States, and the Democratic Party, will be dealing
>>> with the damage Biden leaves behind for years. There is a reason voters,
>>> for 40 years, were never interested in electing the openly ambitious
>>> Biden president of the U.S. — until the bizarre circumstances of the
>>> 2020 election. They knew for decades that he would not be a good
>>> president. And he has proven them right.
>>>
>>> Leave the damage Biden has done to the U.S. — the massive migrant
>>> influx, the decline in the standard of living for millions of people,
>>> and the chaos abroad — for another day. Right now, a new analysis shows
>>> the damage Biden has done to his party, and it is immense.
>>>
>>> Exit polls show that in the 2024 presidential election, 35% of voters
>>> identified as Republicans, while 34% identified as independents, and 31%
>>> identified as Democrats. In addition to a big jump in the number of
>>> self-identified independents, the news is that in 2024, Democrats
>>> slipped to third place in party ID.
>>>
>>> “For the first time since the Watergate era, independents surpassed one
>>> of the major political parties to rank second in terms of party
>>> identification,” writes Republican pollster David Winston, who has just
>>> finished an in-depth study of the election results. “In this
>>> presidential election, the percentage of the electorate that
>>> self-identified as Democrats came in behind independents. … This means
>>> that, in this election, Democrats are de facto more a third party than a
>>> dominant party in the electorate.”
>>>
>>> Because of the Democrats’ slide, Republicans had a 4-point advantage in
>>> party ID this year, 35% to 31%. According to Winston, that is the first
>>> time the GOP has had such an advantage in 10 presidential elections.
>>> Yes, 10 presidential elections.
>>>
>>> The Democrats’ fall between 2020 and 2024 was the party’s worst
>>> performance in many years. But in terms of party identification,
>>> Democrats have been in decline since former President Barack Obama was
>>> first elected. In 2008, Democratic Party ID was 39%, a high that equaled
>>> the party’s performance in the Bill Clinton years. But in 2012,
>>> Democratic Party ID ticked down to 38%. Then, in 2016, it slipped to
>>> 36%. In 2020, it moved up a notch to 37%. And then, in 2024, it plunged
>>> to 31%. That 6-point drop was bigger even than the Republican Party’s
>>> decline in the final, disastrous years of the George W. Bush presidency.
>>>
>>> “To provide a sense of scale of the size of this shift, a comparison of
>>> 37% of the 2020 presidential turnout to 31% of the 2024 turnout shows
>>> there were over 10 million fewer self-identified Democrats voting in
>>> this last election,” Winston writes. “Independents went the other
>>> direction, going from 27% in 2020 to 34% in 2024, which resulted in an
>>> increase in self-identified independents of about 10 million.”
>>>
>>> What does it mean? The simplest explanation is that Biden and his fellow
>>> Democrats made the party so unattractive that millions of
>>> self-identified Democrats decided to call themselves independents
>>> instead. That doesn’t mean they won’t call themselves Democrats again in
>>> the future. But it does suggest that they were deeply unhappy with the
>>> Democratic Party in 2024. Here is how Winston addresses the issue:
>>>
>>> The big question that emerges from this election is what happened to the
>>> Democratic Party? In the last 10 presidential elections, the Democrats
>>> made up the largest portion of the electorate in terms of party
>>> identification (being even at 37% with Republicans for first in 2004).
>>> In this election, not only was that streak broken, but Democrats fell
>>> behind independents as well — into third place. The clear question from
>>> this election is — where did those Democrats go? There are two
>>> possibilities. First, they just didn’t show up to vote, while
>>> independent turnout increased significantly. This theory would
>>> contradict the public survey data done prior to the election that said
>>> Democrats were very motivated to vote, while independents were not. The
>>> other is that many Democrats changed their party identification to
>>> independent. Either way, it shows an electorate that moved away from
>>> Democrats as a result of Biden policies and voted for change. Democrats
>>> will need to think through how to bring voters back, which is very
>>> different than forming the next version of opposition.
>>>
>>> We know that when voters become disgusted with one party or the other,
>>> some of them stop identifying themselves as members of that party. That
>>> is what happened to Democrats over the four years of Joe Biden’s
>>> presidency. The burden of Biden’s poor performance was too great for
>>> Kamala Harris to overcome, especially since she showed no intention to
>>> move away from Biden’s record or plans to do so. The short version is:
>>> Joe Biden was a terrible president. His party paid the price. Now,
>>> they’ll have to come up with a real, not a rhetorical, way to move
>>> forward'
>>
>> Sans-prejudice, why don't you remove comp.os.linux.advocay and
>> alt.computer.workshop from your crossposted ng's, or am I a harsh judge of
>> character?
> The evidence so far says you're an excellent judge of character. "John Smyth,"
> a
> pseudonym, is a shitbag, if he's even a real person.

I would not be surprised if it was a Russian bot.

> I think "he" might be a
> neo-Nazi posting 'bot.

Yes. Which means Pothead and Carroll likely agree with most of the points
made.

> He never responds to anyone, and all of his posts go to
> comp.os.linux.advocacy and alt.computer.workshop (which I have restored to the
> cross-posts this one time only because I'm afraid that otherwise you won't see
> the reply). If you ever see what appears to be a reply (subject line starts
> with
> "Re:") from "John Smyth," it's a forgery, many of which are from me. Numerous
> Usenet participants have asked the shitbag "Smyth" to stop posting his Nazi
> rants to the computer groups, and not only does "he" keep doing it, he doesn't
> even reply to refuse the request.
>
> What I usually do when I want to reply to the post of some shitbag like "Smyth"
> who includes unrelated newsgroups just to be an annoying shitbag is to insert
> "Oh.no.this.most.certainly.is.NOT.going.to." in front of the newsgroup name,
> e.g. Oh.no.this.most.certainly.is.NOT.going.to.alt.computer.workshop. However,
> as I said above, I expressly included the two computer-related newsgroups this
> time to ensure that you'll see a sympathetic reply from at least one other
> person who would like to bury the business end of a pick mattock in "Smyth's"
> forehead.

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

In <0Go5P.53042$OuJ1.45433@fx16.iad> Rudy Canoza wrote:
>
> On 12/8/2024 7:22 AM, bad sector wrote:
>> On 12/8/24 10:08, John Smyth wrote:
>>> 'The damage Biden has done'
>>>
>>> <https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/daily-memo/3249497/damage-joe-biden-has-
>>> done/>
>>>
>>> 'THE DAMAGE BIDEN HAS DONE. Joe Biden will be president for the next 47
>>> days. That’s enough to make anyone nervous. The 82-year-old president
>>> had to be forced, by his own party, to withdraw from the 2024 race
>>> because he is no longer mentally and physically up to the job. But, of
>>> course, he is still in the job. With a world full of dangerous
>>> conflicts, that Biden is in charge for 47 more days, especially with
>>> Vice President Kamala Harris in a deep post-defeat funk, is deeply
>>> worrisome.
>>>
>>> The immediate problem will end on Jan. 20, 2025, when Biden leaves
>>> office. But the United States, and the Democratic Party, will be dealing
>>> with the damage Biden leaves behind for years. There is a reason voters,
>>> for 40 years, were never interested in electing the openly ambitious
>>> Biden president of the U.S. — until the bizarre circumstances of the
>>> 2020 election. They knew for decades that he would not be a good
>>> president. And he has proven them right.
>>>
>>> Leave the damage Biden has done to the U.S. — the massive migrant
>>> influx, the decline in the standard of living for millions of people,
>>> and the chaos abroad — for another day. Right now, a new analysis shows
>>> the damage Biden has done to his party, and it is immense.
>>>
>>> Exit polls show that in the 2024 presidential election, 35% of voters
>>> identified as Republicans, while 34% identified as independents, and 31%
>>> identified as Democrats. In addition to a big jump in the number of
>>> self-identified independents, the news is that in 2024, Democrats
>>> slipped to third place in party ID.
>>>
>>> “For the first time since the Watergate era, independents surpassed one
>>> of the major political parties to rank second in terms of party
>>> identification,” writes Republican pollster David Winston, who has just
>>> finished an in-depth study of the election results. “In this
>>> presidential election, the percentage of the electorate that
>>> self-identified as Democrats came in behind independents. … This means
>>> that, in this election, Democrats are de facto more a third party than a
>>> dominant party in the electorate.”
>>>
>>> Because of the Democrats’ slide, Republicans had a 4-point advantage in
>>> party ID this year, 35% to 31%. According to Winston, that is the first
>>> time the GOP has had such an advantage in 10 presidential elections.
>>> Yes, 10 presidential elections.
>>>
>>> The Democrats’ fall between 2020 and 2024 was the party’s worst
>>> performance in many years. But in terms of party identification,
>>> Democrats have been in decline since former President Barack Obama was
>>> first elected. In 2008, Democratic Party ID was 39%, a high that equaled
>>> the party’s performance in the Bill Clinton years. But in 2012,
>>> Democratic Party ID ticked down to 38%. Then, in 2016, it slipped to
>>> 36%. In 2020, it moved up a notch to 37%. And then, in 2024, it plunged
>>> to 31%. That 6-point drop was bigger even than the Republican Party’s
>>> decline in the final, disastrous years of the George W. Bush presidency.
>>>
>>> “To provide a sense of scale of the size of this shift, a comparison of
>>> 37% of the 2020 presidential turnout to 31% of the 2024 turnout shows
>>> there were over 10 million fewer self-identified Democrats voting in
>>> this last election,” Winston writes. “Independents went the other
>>> direction, going from 27% in 2020 to 34% in 2024, which resulted in an
>>> increase in self-identified independents of about 10 million.”
>>>
>>> What does it mean? The simplest explanation is that Biden and his fellow
>>> Democrats made the party so unattractive that millions of
>>> self-identified Democrats decided to call themselves independents
>>> instead. That doesn’t mean they won’t call themselves Democrats again in
>>> the future. But it does suggest that they were deeply unhappy with the
>>> Democratic Party in 2024. Here is how Winston addresses the issue:
>>>
>>> The big question that emerges from this election is what happened to the
>>> Democratic Party? In the last 10 presidential elections, the Democrats
>>> made up the largest portion of the electorate in terms of party
>>> identification (being even at 37% with Republicans for first in 2004).
>>> In this election, not only was that streak broken, but Democrats fell
>>> behind independents as well — into third place. The clear question from
>>> this election is — where did those Democrats go? There are two
>>> possibilities. First, they just didn’t show up to vote, while
>>> independent turnout increased significantly. This theory would
>>> contradict the public survey data done prior to the election that said
>>> Democrats were very motivated to vote, while independents were not. The
>>> other is that many Democrats changed their party identification to
>>> independent. Either way, it shows an electorate that moved away from
>>> Democrats as a result of Biden policies and voted for change. Democrats
>>> will need to think through how to bring voters back, which is very
>>> different than forming the next version of opposition.
>>>
>>> We know that when voters become disgusted with one party or the other,
>>> some of them stop identifying themselves as members of that party. That
>>> is what happened to Democrats over the four years of Joe Biden’s
>>> presidency. The burden of Biden’s poor performance was too great for
>>> Kamala Harris to overcome, especially since she showed no intention to
>>> move away from Biden’s record or plans to do so. The short version is:
>>> Joe Biden was a terrible president. His party paid the price. Now,
>>> they’ll have to come up with a real, not a rhetorical, way to move
>>> forward'
>>
>> Sans-prejudice, why don't you remove comp.os.linux.advocay and
>> alt.computer.workshop from your crossposted ng's, or am I a harsh judge of
>> character?
> The evidence so far says you're an excellent judge of character. "John Smyth," a
> pseudonym, is a shitbag, if he's even a real person.

He's just as real as you are, and John Smyth is correct.

In <67563463$34$2753$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> "Snit" wrote:
>
> On Dec 8, 2024 at 3:00:27 PM MST, "Rudy Canoza" wrote
> <0Go5P.53042$OuJ1.45433@fx16.iad>:
>
>> On 12/8/2024 7:22 AM, bad sector wrote:
>>> On 12/8/24 10:08, John Smyth wrote:
>>>> 'The damage Biden has done'
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/daily-memo/3249497/damage-joe-biden-has-done/>
>>>>
>>>> 'THE DAMAGE BIDEN HAS DONE. Joe Biden will be president for the next 47
>>>> days. That’s enough to make anyone nervous. The 82-year-old president
>>>> had to be forced, by his own party, to withdraw from the 2024 race
>>>> because he is no longer mentally and physically up to the job. But, of
>>>> course, he is still in the job. With a world full of dangerous
>>>> conflicts, that Biden is in charge for 47 more days, especially with
>>>> Vice President Kamala Harris in a deep post-defeat funk, is deeply
>>>> worrisome.
>>>>
>>>> The immediate problem will end on Jan. 20, 2025, when Biden leaves
>>>> office. But the United States, and the Democratic Party, will be dealing
>>>> with the damage Biden leaves behind for years. There is a reason voters,
>>>> for 40 years, were never interested in electing the openly ambitious
>>>> Biden president of the U.S. — until the bizarre circumstances of the
>>>> 2020 election. They knew for decades that he would not be a good
>>>> president. And he has proven them right.
>>>>
>>>> Leave the damage Biden has done to the U.S. — the massive migrant
>>>> influx, the decline in the standard of living for millions of people,
>>>> and the chaos abroad — for another day. Right now, a new analysis shows
>>>> the damage Biden has done to his party, and it is immense.
>>>>
>>>> Exit polls show that in the 2024 presidential election, 35% of voters
>>>> identified as Republicans, while 34% identified as independents, and 31%
>>>> identified as Democrats. In addition to a big jump in the number of
>>>> self-identified independents, the news is that in 2024, Democrats
>>>> slipped to third place in party ID.
>>>>
>>>> “For the first time since the Watergate era, independents surpassed one
>>>> of the major political parties to rank second in terms of party
>>>> identification,” writes Republican pollster David Winston, who has just
>>>> finished an in-depth study of the election results. “In this
>>>> presidential election, the percentage of the electorate that
>>>> self-identified as Democrats came in behind independents. … This means
>>>> that, in this election, Democrats are de facto more a third party than a
>>>> dominant party in the electorate.”
>>>>
>>>> Because of the Democrats’ slide, Republicans had a 4-point advantage in
>>>> party ID this year, 35% to 31%. According to Winston, that is the first
>>>> time the GOP has had such an advantage in 10 presidential elections.
>>>> Yes, 10 presidential elections.
>>>>
>>>> The Democrats’ fall between 2020 and 2024 was the party’s worst
>>>> performance in many years. But in terms of party identification,
>>>> Democrats have been in decline since former President Barack Obama was
>>>> first elected. In 2008, Democratic Party ID was 39%, a high that equaled
>>>> the party’s performance in the Bill Clinton years. But in 2012,
>>>> Democratic Party ID ticked down to 38%. Then, in 2016, it slipped to
>>>> 36%. In 2020, it moved up a notch to 37%. And then, in 2024, it plunged
>>>> to 31%. That 6-point drop was bigger even than the Republican Party’s
>>>> decline in the final, disastrous years of the George W. Bush presidency.
>>>>
>>>> “To provide a sense of scale of the size of this shift, a comparison of
>>>> 37% of the 2020 presidential turnout to 31% of the 2024 turnout shows
>>>> there were over 10 million fewer self-identified Democrats voting in
>>>> this last election,” Winston writes. “Independents went the other
>>>> direction, going from 27% in 2020 to 34% in 2024, which resulted in an
>>>> increase in self-identified independents of about 10 million.”
>>>>
>>>> What does it mean? The simplest explanation is that Biden and his fellow
>>>> Democrats made the party so unattractive that millions of
>>>> self-identified Democrats decided to call themselves independents
>>>> instead. That doesn’t mean they won’t call themselves Democrats again in
>>>> the future. But it does suggest that they were deeply unhappy with the
>>>> Democratic Party in 2024. Here is how Winston addresses the issue:
>>>>
>>>> The big question that emerges from this election is what happened to the
>>>> Democratic Party? In the last 10 presidential elections, the Democrats
>>>> made up the largest portion of the electorate in terms of party
>>>> identification (being even at 37% with Republicans for first in 2004).
>>>> In this election, not only was that streak broken, but Democrats fell
>>>> behind independents as well — into third place. The clear question from
>>>> this election is — where did those Democrats go? There are two
>>>> possibilities. First, they just didn’t show up to vote, while
>>>> independent turnout increased significantly. This theory would
>>>> contradict the public survey data done prior to the election that said
>>>> Democrats were very motivated to vote, while independents were not. The
>>>> other is that many Democrats changed their party identification to
>>>> independent. Either way, it shows an electorate that moved away from
>>>> Democrats as a result of Biden policies and voted for change. Democrats
>>>> will need to think through how to bring voters back, which is very
>>>> different than forming the next version of opposition.
>>>>
>>>> We know that when voters become disgusted with one party or the other,
>>>> some of them stop identifying themselves as members of that party. That
>>>> is what happened to Democrats over the four years of Joe Biden’s
>>>> presidency. The burden of Biden’s poor performance was too great for
>>>> Kamala Harris to overcome, especially since she showed no intention to
>>>> move away from Biden’s record or plans to do so. The short version is:
>>>> Joe Biden was a terrible president. His party paid the price. Now,
>>>> they’ll have to come up with a real, not a rhetorical, way to move
>>>> forward'
>>>
>>> Sans-prejudice, why don't you remove comp.os.linux.advocay and
>>> alt.computer.workshop from your crossposted ng's, or am I a harsh judge of
>>> character?
>> The evidence so far says you're an excellent judge of character. "John Smyth,"
>> a
>> pseudonym, is a shitbag, if he's even a real person.
>
> I would not be surprised if it was a Russian bot.

It's just a dwarf Filippino from Sacramento named Jon Ball.

>> I think "he" might be a
>> neo-Nazi posting 'bot.
>
> Yes. Which means Pothead and Carroll likely agree with most of the points
> made.

Biden and his blasian sidekick are the worst two leaders in American history. They should both be hung for treason.

>> He never responds to anyone, and all of his posts go to
>> comp.os.linux.advocacy and alt.computer.workshop (which I have restored to the
>> cross-posts this one time only because I'm afraid that otherwise you won't see
>> the reply). If you ever see what appears to be a reply (subject line starts
>> with
>> "Re:") from "John Smyth," it's a forgery, many of which are from me. Numerous
>> Usenet participants have asked the shitbag "Smyth" to stop posting his Nazi
>> rants to the computer groups, and not only does "he" keep doing it, he doesn't
>> even reply to refuse the request.
>>
>> What I usually do when I want to reply to the post of some shitbag like "Smyth"
>> who includes unrelated newsgroups just to be an annoying shitbag is to insert
>> "Oh.no.this.most.certainly.is.NOT.going.to."

Snit wrote:
> They hate Biden because he is not a white supremacist.
> They love Trump because he is.
>
>
Are all of you queers such cry babies?

On 12/9/24 07:42, Baxter wrote:
> Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote in
> news:6756f8b4$0$1895492$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>
>> On Dec 9, 2024 at 3:40:22 AM MST, "Midgets R Us" wrote
>> <20241209.114022.9620998d@remailer.frell.eu.org>:
>>
>>>>> I think "he" might be a
>>>>> neo-Nazi posting 'bot.
>>>>
>>>> Yes. Which means Pothead and Carroll likely agree with most of the
>>>> points made.
>
> They hate Biden because of his support for minorities - blacks, latino,
> trans, gay, disabled, women, etc.

Stupid Baxter just keeps sticking to his lies and false narritives.
Even after being shown wrong.
Plenty of minorities thought it through, and voted for Trump.

For example, of the Latinos 45–64 years old, 48%
voted for Trump.

The US Air Force has launched dozens of strikes against ISIS camps and
operatives in Syria, targeting leaders and terrorist bases.

US Central Command said around 75 targets had been hit by a mix of B-52
Stratofortress, F-15 Eagle and A-10 Thunderbolt II aircraft.

"The strikes against the ISIS leaders, operatives and camps were
conducted as part of the ongoing mission to disrupt, degrade and defeat
ISIS," it said.

https://www.forcesnews.com/middle-east/us-air-force-b-52-bombers-and-f-15-fighters-strike-75-isis-targets-syria?

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THIS IS NO DRILL!

Baxter wrote:

> (lies snipped)

Biden is hated because he's a fscking asshole who calls people "white
supremacists" if they vote Republican. Biden is hated because he does
shit like this:
https://www.heritage.org/crime-and-justice/commentary/fbi-justice-department-twist-federal-law-arrest-charge-pro-life

Biden is a POS. Biden is corrupt.

On 2024-12-09, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> Baxter wrote:
>
>> (lies snipped)
>
> Biden is hated because he's a fscking asshole who calls people "white
> supremacists" if they vote Republican. Biden is hated because he does
> shit like this:
> https://www.heritage.org/crime-and-justice/commentary/fbi-justice-department-twist-federal-law-arrest-charge-pro-life

Biden weaponized the DOJ and other agencies like no other administration in modern time.

> Biden is a POS. Biden is corrupt.

Biden a nasty person and quite unlike the "Amtrak riding, middle class uncle Joe" he spent decades
creating.

The entire Biden crime family need to be prosecuted.
Here is a good source documenting many the the Biden crime family's nefarious deals.

"The Bidens’ Influence Peddling Timeline".

<https://oversight.house.gov/the-bidens-influence-peddling-timeline/>

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All about snit read below. Links courtesy of Ron:

<https://web.archive.org/web/20181028000459/http://www.cosmicpenguin.com/snit.html>
<https://web.archive.org/web/20190529043314/http://cosmicpenguin.com/snitlist.html>
<https://web.archive.org/web/20190529062255/http://cosmicpenguin.com/snitLieMethods.html>

pothead wrote:
> "The Bidens’ Influence Peddling Timeline".

Have they made two billion yet?

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a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote in news:YEH5P.3389$2dyb.3350
@fx48.iad:

> On 12/9/24 07:42, Baxter wrote:
>> Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:6756f8b4$0$1895492$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>
>>> On Dec 9, 2024 at 3:40:22 AM MST, "Midgets R Us" wrote
>>> <20241209.114022.9620998d@remailer.frell.eu.org>:
>>>
>>>>>> I think "he" might be a
>>>>>> neo-Nazi posting 'bot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes. Which means Pothead and Carroll likely agree with most of the
>>>>> points made.
>>
>> They hate Biden because of his support for minorities - blacks,
latino,
>> trans, gay, disabled, women, etc.
>
> Stupid Baxter just keeps sticking to his lies and false narritives.
> Even after being shown wrong.
> Plenty of minorities thought it through, and voted for Trump.
>
> For example, of the Latinos 45–64 years old, 48%
> voted for Trump.
>
>

And now those tRump-voting minorities are whining. Story after story is
comming out about how those tRump-voding people screwed themselves. For
instance:
- immigrants are now appalled that their citizen family will get
deported with them
- immigrants are now appalled that it will be ALL immigrants, not just
criminals.
- Steel workers that voted for tRump now find that a needed merger will
be denyed by tRump - their industry and jobs will die.
- Growers screaming about loss of manpower
- builder losing half of their workers
- and more.

chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote in
news:6ooeljppgquq9js3sa3dm3dd04poom5sje@4ax.com:

> Baxter wrote:
>
>> (lies snipped)
>
> Biden is hated because he's a fscking asshole who calls people "white
> supremacists" if they vote Republican. Biden is hated because he does
> shit like this:
> https://www.heritage.org/crime-and-justice/commentary/fbi-justice-depar
> tment-twist-federal-law-arrest-charge-pro-life
>
> Biden is a POS. Biden is corrupt.
>
>

Heritage is a far-right extremist orginization. It's all lies.

pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
news:vj7pb9$j9ts$1@dont-email.me:

>
> Biden weaponized the DOJ and other agencies like no other
> administration in modern time.
Pothead is a Russion bot - pissed off because he's stuck on Usenet instead
of more interesting venues. All he can do is parrot those tRump and
Russian lies.

In article <vj8cov$q80n$2@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
says...
>
> a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote in news:YEH5P.3389$2dyb.3350
> @fx48.iad:
>
> > On 12/9/24 07:42, Baxter wrote:
> >> Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote in
> >> news:6756f8b4$0$1895492$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
> >>
> >>> On Dec 9, 2024 at 3:40:22 AM MST, "Midgets R Us" wrote
> >>> <20241209.114022.9620998d@remailer.frell.eu.org>:
> >>>
> >>>>>> I think "he" might be a
> >>>>>> neo-Nazi posting 'bot.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yes. Which means Pothead and Carroll likely agree with most of the
> >>>>> points made.
> >>
> >> They hate Biden because of his support for minorities - blacks,
> latino,
> >> trans, gay, disabled, women, etc.
> >
> > Stupid Baxter just keeps sticking to his lies and false narritives.
> > Even after being shown wrong.
> > Plenty of minorities thought it through, and voted for Trump.
> >
> > For example, of the Latinos 45�64 years old, 48%
> > voted for Trump.
> >
> >
>
> And now those tRump-voting minorities are whining. Story after story is
> comming out about how those tRump-voding people screwed themselves. For
> instance:
> - immigrants are now appalled that their citizen family will get
> deported with them
> - immigrants are now appalled that it will be ALL immigrants, not just
> criminals.
> - Steel workers that voted for tRump now find that a needed merger will
> be denyed by tRump - their industry and jobs will die.
> - Growers screaming about loss of manpower
> - builder losing half of their workers
> - and more.

All bullshit. And the family's will have a choice.

In article <vj8cu0$q80n$4@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
says...
>
> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote in
> news:6ooeljppgquq9js3sa3dm3dd04poom5sje@4ax.com:
>
> > Baxter wrote:
> >
> >> (lies snipped)
> >
> > Biden is hated because he's a fscking asshole who calls people "white
> > supremacists" if they vote Republican. Biden is hated because he does
> > shit like this:
> > https://www.heritage.org/crime-and-justice/commentary/fbi-justice-depar
> > tment-twist-federal-law-arrest-charge-pro-life
> >
> > Biden is a POS. Biden is corrupt.
> >
> >
>
> Heritage is a far-right extremist orginization. It's all lies.

Trump won because of your left wing fake news.

In article <vj8d36$q80n$5@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
says...
>
> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
> news:vj7pb9$j9ts$1@dont-email.me:
>
>
> >
> > Biden weaponized the DOJ and other agencies like no other
> > administration in modern time.
>
> Pothead is a Russion bot - pissed off because he's stuck on Usenet instead
> of more interesting venues. All he can do is parrot those tRump and
> Russian lies.

She is not a bot but nice try to spin from your loss.

In <bRO5P.27504$xPr6.24493@fx10.iad> Rudy wrote:
>
> On 12/8/2024 7:08 AM, John Smyth wrote:
>> 'The damage Biden has done'
> None.
You don't know. You haven't any money or savings to steal.

On 12/9/2024 11:36 AM, a425couple wrote:
> On 12/9/24 07:42, Baxter wrote:
>> Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:6756f8b4$0$1895492$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>
>>> On Dec 9, 2024 at 3:40:22 AM MST, "Midgets R Us" wrote
>>> <20241209.114022.9620998d@remailer.frell.eu.org>:
>>>
>>>>>> I think "he" might be a
>>>>>> neo-Nazi posting 'bot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes. Which means Pothead and Carroll likely agree with most of the
>>>>> points made.
>>
>> They hate Biden because of his support for minorities - blacks, latino,
>> trans, gay, disabled, women, etc.
>
> Stupid Baxter just keeps sticking to his lies and false narritives.
> Even after being shown wrong.
> Plenty of minorities thought it through, and voted for Trump.

They have jobs. Illegals threaten their livelihood.

> For example, of the Latinos 45–64 years old, 48%
> voted for Trump.

They know the difference between immigration and prison escapes.

In article <vj9nno$113ra$4@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
says...
>
> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
> news:6757c935$1$2385533$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>
> > In article <vj8d36$q80n$5@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
> > says...
> >>
> >> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
> >> news:vj7pb9$j9ts$1@dont-email.me:
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Biden weaponized the DOJ and other agencies like no other
> >> > administration in modern time.
> >>
> >> Pothead is a Russion bot - pissed off because he's stuck on Usenet
> >> instead of more interesting venues. All he can do is parrot those
> >> tRump and Russian lies.
> >
> > She is not a bot but nice try to spin from your loss.
> >
>
> Bots can be people as well as machines. You are a squat-to-piss bot.

So you copy Rudy now? You need to do better than that.

In article <vj9npr$113ra$5@dont-email.me>, bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com
says...
>
> Trump Country USA <cap@gmail.con> wrote in news:20241210.074626.cbf1ef30
> @remailer.frell.eu.org:
>
> > In <bRO5P.27504$xPr6.24493@fx10.iad> Rudy wrote:
> >>
> >> On 12/8/2024 7:08 AM, John Smyth wrote:
> >>> 'The damage Biden has done'
> >> None.
> > You don't know. You haven't any money or savings to steal.
> >
>
> tRump and the Repugs have already outlined their plan to steal billion$ of
> your tax money.

Where is it? Have you seen it? Stop lying.

On Dec 10, 2024 at 12:02:37 PM MST, "Governor Swill" wrote
<ut3hljp32sv0d2mj8v5gavnq06ugog8tt2@4ax.com>:

> On 10 Dec 2024 16:46:27 GMT, Snit <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Better than your excuse of always blaming the media for Trump's actions. Why
>> not speak about Trump's use of Nazi language and propaganda? Why not speak of
>> how he wants his generals to be like those of Hitler's? Why not discuss the
>> dissent into fascism that the US just voted in?
>
> Why not watch and see what he does? He isn't even sworn in yet.

We have seen what he does. We have heard what he says he will do. We have seen
how he wants the US to be more like N. Korea or Russia. We have seen Project
2025. We know he will be an utter disaster for the US.
>
> NP: True Companion - Donald Fagen / Steely Dan

--
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

On 10/12/2024 19:48, Snit wrote:
> We know he will be an utter disaster for the US.

No, Snit, you do NOT know that. :-(

In article <cj3hlj5bb6fc31tlek4ro10c3hiicl14cj@4ax.com>,
governor.swill@gmail.com says...
>
> On Tue, 10 Dec 2024 03:32:47 -0000 (UTC), Baxter <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com>
> wrote:
>
> >a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote
> <snip>
> >> Stupid Baxter just keeps sticking to his lies and false narritives.
> >> Even after being shown wrong.
> >> Plenty of minorities thought it through, and voted for Trump.
> >>
> >> For example, of the Latinos 45â??64 years old, 48%
> >> voted for Trump.
>
> >And now those tRump-voting minorities are whining. Story after story is
> >comming out about how those tRump-voding people screwed themselves. For
> >instance:
> > - immigrants are now appalled that their citizen family will get
> >deported with them
>
> Cite.
>
> > - immigrants are now appalled that it will be ALL immigrants, not just
> >criminals.
>
> Cite.
>
> > - Steel workers that voted for tRump now find that a needed merger will
> >be denyed by tRump - their industry and jobs will die.
>
> Cite.
>
> > - Growers screaming about loss of manpower
>
> Cite.
>
> > - builder losing half of their workers
>
> Cite.
>
> > - and more.
>
> Legal immigrants are pissed off about the illegal ones.
>
> The Democrats suffered their biggest loss since 1988 - thirteen million votes.
>
> Harris and the Dems threw this election away because apparently, not being Trump
> wasn't enough. The voters also expected intelligence, competence and vision.
>
> NP: REO Speedwagon - Take It On The Run

Kevin left the band.