https://www.theregister.com/2024/12/05/wubuntu

The W really stands for "Why?"

rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

>https://www.theregister.com/2024/12/05/wubuntu
>
>The W really stands for "Why?"

I like the idea behind LinuxFX and Wubuntu, show that Microsoft's
bloat isn't a requirement to get a workable GUI system (glares at
Larry), we won the OS wars. People just haven't heard the news.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 6 Dec 2024 01:38:35 GMT, rbowman wrote:

> https://www.theregister.com/2024/12/05/wubuntu
>
> The W really stands for "Why?"
>

He already has a distro that is perfectly adjusted
to his intellectual level:

https://hannahmontana.sourceforge.net/

On 12/5/2024 8:38 PM, rbowman wrote:

> https://www.theregister.com/2024/12/05/wubuntu
>
> The W really stands for "Why?"

Thanks for the heads up.

The look and feel of Windows, with the half-assedness of GuhNoo ("we
couldn't get any widgets to open")... my hunt for the perfect distro is
over!

Joel wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
>
>>https://www.theregister.com/2024/12/05/wubuntu
>>
>>The W really stands for "Why?"
>
> I like the idea behind LinuxFX and Wubuntu, show that Microsoft's
> bloat isn't a requirement to get a workable GUI system (glares at
> Larry), we won the OS wars. People just haven't heard the news.

I would dub it "Screwbuntu".

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This bag is recyclable.

Diego Garcia wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

> On 6 Dec 2024 01:38:35 GMT, rbowman wrote:
>
>> https://www.theregister.com/2024/12/05/wubuntu
>>
>> The W really stands for "Why?"
>>
>
> He already has a distro that is perfectly adjusted
> to his intellectual level:
>
> https://hannahmontana.sourceforge.net/

It has a theme song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJTywspjyUs

Hoedown Throwdown

--
What foods these morsels be!

On 12/6/24 2:29 AM, Diego Garcia wrote:
> On 6 Dec 2024 01:38:35 GMT, rbowman wrote:
>
>> https://www.theregister.com/2024/12/05/wubuntu
>>
>> The W really stands for "Why?"
>>
>
> He already has a distro that is perfectly adjusted
> to his intellectual level:
>
> https://hannahmontana.sourceforge.net/
>

You guys are joking of course (especially rBowman's German sense of
humor "shines"! like it should), but these distros are attempts by those
who don't know how to fight Microsoft in its owning and limiting Linux
to a tiny community, and not all, to make Linux popular. They all fail
of course because they think problem is in visual aspects of linux OS.

To kick Microsoft's Windows' ass, a Linux expert should make the process
of installing additional software very simple for users, and at the same
time does not go on Microsoft's payrol by the end of the same day that
he presents that distro to public.

That's how you fight MS.

On 12/6/24 2:34 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
> On 12/6/24 2:29 AM, Diego Garcia wrote:
>> On 6 Dec 2024 01:38:35 GMT, rbowman wrote:
>>
>>> https://www.theregister.com/2024/12/05/wubuntu
>>>
>>> The W really stands for "Why?"
>>>
>>
>> He already has a distro that is perfectly adjusted
>> to his intellectual level:
>>
>> https://hannahmontana.sourceforge.net/
>>
>
>
> You guys are joking of course (especially rBowman's German sense of
> humor "shines"! like it should), but these distros are attempts by those
> who don't know how to fight Microsoft in its owning and limiting Linux
> to a tiny community, and not all, to make Linux popular. They all fail
> of course because they think problem is in visual aspects of linux OS.
>
> To kick Microsoft's Windows' ass, a Linux expert should make the process
> of installing additional software very simple for users, and at the same
> time does not go on Microsoft's payrol by the end of the same day that
> he presents that distro to public.
>
> That's how you fight MS.
>
>

_None_ of the linux experts have that guts. Not one of them, from lower
down to the top of the pyramid. So Linux in this country is sitting
there as something that suits cro-magnons. They cannot have anything
better than how Linux is now.

On 12/6/2024 3:29 AM, Diego Garcia wrote:
> On 6 Dec 2024 01:38:35 GMT, rbowman wrote:
>
>> https://www.theregister.com/2024/12/05/wubuntu
>>
>> The W really stands for "Why?"
>>
>
> He already has a distro that is perfectly adjusted
> to his intellectual level:
>
> https://hannahmontana.sourceforge.net/

How's that "adjunct professor of mechanical engineering" job going, Feeb?

On Fri, 6 Dec 2024 14:34:51 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:

>
> You guys are joking of course
>

I'm NOT joking.

On Fri, 6 Dec 2024 14:34:51 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:

>
> To kick Microsoft's Windows' ass, a Linux expert should make the process
> of installing additional software very simple for users, and at the same
> time does not go on Microsoft's payrol by the end of the same day that
> he presents that distro to public.
>
> That's how you fight MS.
>

The goal of GNU/Linux/FOSS is not to kick Microslop's ass.

The goal of GNU/Linux/FOSS is to develop a comprehensive and
capable software environment that will allow a knowledgeable
computer user to fulfill all of his possible needs.

It has succeeded admirably.

--
Systemd: solving all the problems that you never knew you had.

Diego Garcia <dg@linux.rocks> wrote:
>On Fri, 6 Dec 2024 14:34:51 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:
>
>> You guys are joking of course
>
>I'm NOT joking.

You have anger issues.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 12/6/24 4:44 PM, Farley Flud wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Dec 2024 14:34:51 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:
>
>>
>> To kick Microsoft's Windows' ass, a Linux expert should make the process
>> of installing additional software very simple for users, and at the same
>> time does not go on Microsoft's payrol by the end of the same day that
>> he presents that distro to public.
>>
>> That's how you fight MS.
>>
>
> The goal of GNU/Linux/FOSS is not to kick Microslop's ass.
>
> The goal of GNU/Linux/FOSS is to develop a comprehensive and
> capable software environment that will allow a knowledgeable
> computer user to fulfill all of his possible needs.
>
> It has succeeded admirably.
>
>

Maybe I've been projecting. Cause I sure want Microsoft to lose its
Windows business.

And about the "goal" of Linux, it is exactly what Microsoft has reduced
you guys to :)

MS: "Do what you want, but do not touch Windows".

Linux: "Yes sir. We understand."

Good for you chickens, but not for me.

On Fri, 6 Dec 2024 23:54:22 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:

>
> Maybe I've been projecting. Cause I sure want Microsoft to lose its
> Windows business.
>

That's never going to happen.

Microslop has a totally captive user base composed of digital
idiots that cannot ever learn how to use anything else. These
idiots will suck at the Microslop teat until their dying days.

In contrast, GNU/Linux will always cater to the small minority
of highly talented people who can understand and appreciate
the power that it truly offers, although there will always
be some errant distro that will try to accommodate idiots
(but will never succeed).

--
Systemd: solving all the problems that you never knew you had.

Farley Flud wrote:

> Physfitfreak wrote:
>>
>> To kick Microsoft's Windows' ass, a Linux expert should make the process
>> of installing additional software very simple for users, and at the same
>> time does not go on Microsoft's payrol by the end of the same day that
>> he presents that distro to public.
>>
>> That's how you fight MS.

You think installing additional software on Linux is difficult?

>The goal of GNU/Linux/FOSS is not to kick Microslop's ass.
>
>The goal of GNU/Linux/FOSS is to develop a comprehensive and
>capable software environment that will allow a knowledgeable
>computer user to fulfill all of his possible needs.
>
>It has succeeded admirably.

Right. The "mainstream" likes to have a couple "standards" in
computer operating systems. GNU/Linux is for those for whom the
mainstream standards don't work.

--
"I'll recycle the same reports over and over if I have to, in order to
flood COLA with garbage." - some dumb fsck

On 12/7/2024 12:54 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:

> I sure want Microsoft to lose its Windows business.
You sound like Wretched Richard Stallman.

What are your thoughts on pedophilia and bestiality?

On Sat, 7 Dec 2024 09:09:00 -0500, DFS wrote:

> On 12/7/2024 12:54 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>
>> I sure want Microsoft to lose its Windows business.
> You sound like Wretched Richard Stallman.
>
> What are your thoughts on pedophilia and bestiality?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddj7eohJVLQ

"And now for once you must try to face the facts
Mankind is kept alive by bestial acts
And for once you must try to face the facts
Mankind is kept alive by bestial acts"

On 12/7/24 11:47 AM, rbowman wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Dec 2024 09:09:00 -0500, DFS wrote:
>
>> On 12/7/2024 12:54 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>
>>> I sure want Microsoft to lose its Windows business.
>> You sound like Wretched Richard Stallman.
>>
>> What are your thoughts on pedophilia and bestiality?
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddj7eohJVLQ
>
>
> "And now for once you must try to face the facts
> Mankind is kept alive by bestial acts
> And for once you must try to face the facts
> Mankind is kept alive by bestial acts"
>

Hmm.. Tell him I said, "Revert to your Penis X, not me."

On 12/7/24 5:25 AM, Farley Flud wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Dec 2024 23:54:22 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:
>
>>
>> Maybe I've been projecting. Cause I sure want Microsoft to lose its
>> Windows business.
>>
>
> That's never going to happen.
>

In this and other countries that are Bitches of this country, it won't.

On 2024-12-07, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> Farley Flud wrote:
>
>> Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>
>>> To kick Microsoft's Windows' ass, a Linux expert should make the process
>>> of installing additional software very simple for users, and at the same
>>> time does not go on Microsoft's payrol by the end of the same day that
>>> he presents that distro to public.
>>>
>>> That's how you fight MS.
>
> You think installing additional software on Linux is difficult?

Installing and maintaining Linux is much easier and more efficient than
doing so on Windows. One "standard" Windows "upgrade" proves that.

>>The goal of GNU/Linux/FOSS is not to kick Microslop's ass.
>>
>>The goal of GNU/Linux/FOSS is to develop a comprehensive and
>>capable software environment that will allow a knowledgeable
>>computer user to fulfill all of his possible needs.
>>
>>It has succeeded admirably.
>
> Right. The "mainstream" likes to have a couple "standards" in
> computer operating systems. GNU/Linux is for those for whom the
> mainstream standards don't work.

--
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien

On 12/8/24 4:45 AM, RonB wrote:
> On 2024-12-07, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> Farley Flud wrote:
>>
>>> Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>
>>>> To kick Microsoft's Windows' ass, a Linux expert should make the process
>>>> of installing additional software very simple for users, and at the same
>>>> time does not go on Microsoft's payrol by the end of the same day that
>>>> he presents that distro to public.
>>>>
>>>> That's how you fight MS.
>>
>> You think installing additional software on Linux is difficult?
>
> Installing and maintaining Linux is much easier and more efficient than
> doing so on Windows. One "standard" Windows "upgrade" proves that.
>
>>> The goal of GNU/Linux/FOSS is not to kick Microslop's ass.
>>>
>>> The goal of GNU/Linux/FOSS is to develop a comprehensive and
>>> capable software environment that will allow a knowledgeable
>>> computer user to fulfill all of his possible needs.
>>>
>>> It has succeeded admirably.
>>
>> Right. The "mainstream" likes to have a couple "standards" in
>> computer operating systems. GNU/Linux is for those for whom the
>> mainstream standards don't work.

Has RonB actually made a Windows install on new hardware this century?

Last time I noticed him mentioning his bad Windows experiences, it was a
rant about 'Clippy' (1997-2001).

-hh

-hh wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

> On 12/8/24 4:45 AM, RonB wrote:
>> On 2024-12-07, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>> Farley Flud wrote:
>>>
>>>> Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> To kick Microsoft's Windows' ass, a Linux expert should make the process
>>>>> of installing additional software very simple for users, and at the same
>>>>> time does not go on Microsoft's payrol by the end of the same day that
>>>>> he presents that distro to public.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's how you fight MS.
>>>
>>> You think installing additional software on Linux is difficult?
>>
>> Installing and maintaining Linux is much easier and more efficient than
>> doing so on Windows. One "standard" Windows "upgrade" proves that.
>>
>>>> The goal of GNU/Linux/FOSS is not to kick Microslop's ass.
>>>>
>>>> The goal of GNU/Linux/FOSS is to develop a comprehensive and
>>>> capable software environment that will allow a knowledgeable
>>>> computer user to fulfill all of his possible needs.
>>>>
>>>> It has succeeded admirably.
>>>
>>> Right. The "mainstream" likes to have a couple "standards" in
>>> computer operating systems. GNU/Linux is for those for whom the
>>> mainstream standards don't work.
>
> Has RonB actually made a Windows install on new hardware this century?
>
> Last time I noticed him mentioning his bad Windows experiences, it was a
> rant about 'Clippy' (1997-2001).

Ever install Visual Studio? Takes up more time and disk space than a Linux
install.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/visualstudio/releases/2022/system-requirements

Minimum 2 vCPU and 8 GB RAM. 4 vCPU and 16 GB of RAM recommended. Hard
disk space: Minimum of 850 MB up to 210 GB of available space, depending
on features installed; typical installations require 20-50 GB of free
space. We recommend installing Windows and Visual Studio on a solid-state
drive (SSD) to increase performance.

Anyway, to build C/C++ code on Windows I use Git Bash and Mingw64.
Also, for convenience, Qt Creator using mingw as the compiler and toolset.
That's a fairly big install itself. I would like to get the code to build
using autotools in MSYS2 at some point.

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If this is timesharing, give me my share right now.

On Sun, 8 Dec 2024 08:26:32 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

>
> Ever install Visual Studio? Takes up more time and disk space than a Linux
> install.
>

Ever try to uninstall Visual Studio? The task is literally impossible.

Microslop sure makes some good software -- or perhaps we should call it
slopware.

On 12/8/24 8:26 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> -hh wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
> -.. . .-.. . - . -.. / ..- -. .-. . .- -.. -.-.-- / .-.. --- .-..
>> On 12/8/24 4:45 AM, RonB wrote:
>>> On 2024-12-07, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>> Farley Flud wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To kick Microsoft's Windows' ass, a Linux expert should make the process
>>>>>> of installing additional software very simple for users, and at the same
>>>>>> time does not go on Microsoft's payrol by the end of the same day that
>>>>>> he presents that distro to public.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's how you fight MS.
>>>>
>>>> You think installing additional software on Linux is difficult?
>>>
>>> Installing and maintaining Linux is much easier and more efficient than
>>> doing so on Windows. One "standard" Windows "upgrade" proves that.
>>>
>>>>> The goal of GNU/Linux/FOSS is not to kick Microslop's ass.
>>>>>
>>>>> The goal of GNU/Linux/FOSS is to develop a comprehensive and
>>>>> capable software environment that will allow a knowledgeable
>>>>> computer user to fulfill all of his possible needs.
>>>>>
>>>>> It has succeeded admirably.
>>>>
>>>> Right. The "mainstream" likes to have a couple "standards" in
>>>> computer operating systems. GNU/Linux is for those for whom the
>>>> mainstream standards don't work.
>>
>> Has RonB actually made a Windows install on new hardware this century?
>>
>> Last time I noticed him mentioning his bad Windows experiences, it was a
>> rant about 'Clippy' (1997-2001).
>
> Ever install Visual Studio? Takes up more time and disk space than a Linux
> install.

Sure, but Visual Studio is an App, not an OS.

Granted, Clippy was part of the MS-Office App, not the OS, but MS has
had some fuzzy disembarkation lines for decades (eg, Internet Explorer).

And FWIW, I'm not saying that RonB was wrong to be complaining about
Clippy .. it was bad .. but simply that sins from a couple of decades
ago just aren't all that relevant anymore to contemporary life.

-hh

Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> wrote:
>On Sun, 8 Dec 2024 08:26:32 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
>> Ever install Visual Studio? Takes up more time and disk space than a Linux
>> install.
>
>Ever try to uninstall Visual Studio? The task is literally impossible.
>
>Microslop sure makes some good software -- or perhaps we should call it
>slopware.

Windows is an advertisement for Linux Mint.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.