What is it with these Windows 10 users so hard up to “upgrade” to
Windows 11? Do they really believe they are missing out on something?
Do they think their ongoing dissatisfaction with their OS can be
remedied, if only they go up just one more version?

It was amusing to read this report
<https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/12/microsoft-reiterates-non-negotiable-tpm-2-0-requirement-for-windows-11/>
about the ongoing attempts to come up with hacks to get around
Microsoft’s restrictions on “unsupported” machines upgrading. The best
thing the writer could find to say about Windows 11 was

... but aside from that, Windows 11 usually runs about as well on
these PCs as Windows 10 did.

Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

>What is it with these Windows 10 users so hard up to “upgrade” to
>Windows 11? Do they really believe they are missing out on something?
>Do they think their ongoing dissatisfaction with their OS can be
>remedied, if only they go up just one more version?
>
>It was amusing to read this report
><https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/12/microsoft-reiterates-non-negotiable-tpm-2-0-requirement-for-windows-11/>
>about the ongoing attempts to come up with hacks to get around
>Microsoft’s restrictions on “unsupported” machines upgrading. The best
>thing the writer could find to say about Windows 11 was
>
> ... but aside from that, Windows 11 usually runs about as well on
> these PCs as Windows 10 did.

People who know use Linux, or they pay to chase meeting M$'s hardware
requirements and they keep using Winblows, or they even put up with
running cumulative updates on a Win10 box with no SSD..

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 12/4/2024 10:36 PM, Joel wrote:

> People who know use Linux, or they pay to chase meeting M$'s hardware
> requirements and they keep using Winblows, or they even put up with
> running cumulative updates on a Win10 box with no SSD..

People who know better (which is 96 out of 100) don't run Linux.

Here's a GuhNoo licensed math package Feeb touted recently.

https://sourceforge.net/projects/mathmod/files/MathMod-12.0/

There's a Windows executable already built. I downloaded and installed
it in about 1 minute.

https://imgur.com/a/KP0nRSS

There's no Linux executable, so you have to compile it from source.

Go ahead and download the source and do that, and show a screenshot of
it running on your Linux crapbox.

See you never.

Another Linux FAIL.

DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote:

>Here's a GuhNoo licensed math package Feeb touted recently.
>
>https://sourceforge.net/projects/mathmod/files/MathMod-12.0/
>
>There's a Windows executable already built. I downloaded and installed
>it in about 1 minute.
>
>https://imgur.com/a/KP0nRSS
>
>
>There's no Linux executable, so you have to compile it from source.
>
>Go ahead and download the source and do that, and show a screenshot of
>it running on your Linux crapbox.
>
>See you never.
>
>Another Linux FAIL.

Whatever he did to run it is impressive, I give him, but the notion
that you would have to have Windows because of some incredible app is
only true for things you really can't live without, that could exist
in the Unix world too, things you'd give up by using Windows.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-12-05, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
> What is it with these Windows 10 users so hard up to “upgrade” to
> Windows 11? Do they really believe they are missing out on something?
> Do they think their ongoing dissatisfaction with their OS can be
> remedied, if only they go up just one more version?
>
> It was amusing to read this report
><https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/12/microsoft-reiterates-non-negotiable-tpm-2-0-requirement-for-windows-11/>
> about the ongoing attempts to come up with hacks to get around
> Microsoft’s restrictions on “unsupported” machines upgrading. The best
> thing the writer could find to say about Windows 11 was
>
> ... but aside from that, Windows 11 usually runs about as well on
> these PCs as Windows 10 did.

In context he's writing about PCs that don't meet the update requirements
but have Windows 11 installed anyhow. He writes that, "of course support for
these machines could be pulled at any time." So I'm not sure what point this
writer was trying to make here.

--
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien

Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

> What is it with these Windows 10 users so hard up to “upgrade” to
> Windows 11? Do they really believe they are missing out on something?
> Do they think their ongoing dissatisfaction with their OS can be
> remedied, if only they go up just one more version?
>
> It was amusing to read this report
> <https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2024/12/microsoft-reiterates-non-negotiable-tpm-2-0-requirement-for-windows-11/>
> about the ongoing attempts to come up with hacks to get around
> Microsoft’s restrictions on “unsupported” machines upgrading. The best
> thing the writer could find to say about Windows 11 was
>
> ... but aside from that, Windows 11 usually runs about as well on
> these PCs as Windows 10 did.

On Windows 11, GIMP and QtCreator (for example), are notably slower than
on Linux on the same computer.

--
When you're dining out and you suspect something's wrong, you're probably right.

On 12/5/2024 12:08 AM, Joel wrote:
> DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote:
>
>> Here's a GuhNoo licensed math package Feeb touted recently.
>>
>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/mathmod/files/MathMod-12.0/
>>
>> There's a Windows executable already built. I downloaded and installed
>> it in about 1 minute.
>>
>> https://imgur.com/a/KP0nRSS
>>
>>
>> There's no Linux executable, so you have to compile it from source.
>>
>> Go ahead and download the source and do that, and show a screenshot of
>> it running on your Linux crapbox.
>>
>> See you never.
>>
>> Another Linux FAIL.
>
>
> Whatever he did to run it is impressive, I give him,

Feeb already had the Qt libraries installed. You might or might not.

Edit: distrowatch shows Mint includes an older version of Qt by default.

> but the notion
> that you would have to have Windows because of some incredible app is
> only true for things you really can't live without, that could exist
> in the Unix world too, things you'd give up by using Windows.

My point isn't that you have to have Windows. My point is to see what
happens when a cola Linux advocate is forced to compile an app from source.

So far you ran away. Why?

DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote:

>>> Here's a GuhNoo licensed math package Feeb touted recently.
>>>
>>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/mathmod/files/MathMod-12.0/
>>>
>>> There's a Windows executable already built. I downloaded and installed
>>> it in about 1 minute.
>>>
>>> https://imgur.com/a/KP0nRSS
>>>
>>>
>>> There's no Linux executable, so you have to compile it from source.
>>>
>>> Go ahead and download the source and do that, and show a screenshot of
>>> it running on your Linux crapbox.
>>>
>>> See you never.
>>>
>>> Another Linux FAIL.
>>
>> Whatever he did to run it is impressive, I give him,
>
>Feeb already had the Qt libraries installed. You might or might not.
>
>Edit: distrowatch shows Mint includes an older version of Qt by default.
>
>> but the notion
>> that you would have to have Windows because of some incredible app is
>> only true for things you really can't live without, that could exist
>> in the Unix world too, things you'd give up by using Windows.
>
>My point isn't that you have to have Windows. My point is to see what
>happens when a cola Linux advocate is forced to compile an app from source.
>
>So far you ran away. Why?

You can choose Wintendo or you can choose to be selective in what you
use with Linux. Trust me, we get by. Can't wish for M$ back.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 12/6/2024 10:52 AM, Joel wrote:
> DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote:
>
>>>> Here's a GuhNoo licensed math package Feeb touted recently.
>>>>
>>>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/mathmod/files/MathMod-12.0/
>>>>
>>>> There's a Windows executable already built. I downloaded and installed
>>>> it in about 1 minute.
>>>>
>>>> https://imgur.com/a/KP0nRSS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There's no Linux executable, so you have to compile it from source.
>>>>
>>>> Go ahead and download the source and do that, and show a screenshot of
>>>> it running on your Linux crapbox.
>>>>
>>>> See you never.
>>>>
>>>> Another Linux FAIL.
>>>
>>> Whatever he did to run it is impressive, I give him,
>>
>> Feeb already had the Qt libraries installed. You might or might not.
>>
>> Edit: distrowatch shows Mint includes an older version of Qt by default.
>>
>>> but the notion
>>> that you would have to have Windows because of some incredible app is
>>> only true for things you really can't live without, that could exist
>>> in the Unix world too, things you'd give up by using Windows.
>>
>> My point isn't that you have to have Windows. My point is to see what
>> happens when a cola Linux advocate is forced to compile an app from source.
>>
>> So far you ran away. Why?
>
>
> You can choose Wintendo or you can choose to be selective in what you
> use with Linux. Trust me, we get by. Can't wish for M$ back.

Afraid to compile an app?

You promised Linux leetness, man!

Le 05-12-2024, DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> a écrit :
> On 12/4/2024 10:36 PM, Joel wrote:
>
>
>> People who know use Linux, or they pay to chase meeting M$'s hardware
>> requirements and they keep using Winblows, or they even put up with
>> running cumulative updates on a Win10 box with no SSD..
>
>
> People who know better (which is 96 out of 100) don't run Linux.
>
>
> Here's a GuhNoo licensed math package Feeb touted recently.
>
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/mathmod/files/MathMod-12.0/
>
> There's a Windows executable already built. I downloaded and installed
> it in about 1 minute.
>
> https://imgur.com/a/KP0nRSS
>
>
> There's no Linux executable, so you have to compile it from source.
>
> Go ahead and download the source and do that, and show a screenshot of
> it running on your Linux crapbox.
>
> See you never.
>
> Another Linux FAIL.

First, if LP/DG/FR/NV/whatever managed to do it, it couldn't have been
that difficult.

Second, it wasn't difficult, here it is:
<https://ibb.co/5LH4wdk>

--
Si vous avez du temps à perdre :
https://scarpet42.gitlab.io

DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote:

>>>> [The reason] you would have to have Windows because of some incredible app is
>>>> only true for things you really can't live without, that could exist
>>>> in the Unix world too, things you'd give up by using Windows.
>>>
>>> My point isn't that you have to have Windows. My point is to see what
>>> happens when a cola Linux advocate is forced to compile an app from source.
>>>
>>> So far you ran away. Why?
>>
>> You can choose Wintendo or you can choose to be selective in what you
>> use with Linux. Trust me, we get by. Can't wish for M$ back.
>
>Afraid to compile an app?
>
>You promised Linux leetness, man!

You act as if compiling is such a requirement. Maybe it is with this
app, but that shows why I don't need every app.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 2024-12-05, DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote:
> On 12/4/2024 10:36 PM, Joel wrote:
>
>
>> People who know use Linux, or they pay to chase meeting M$'s hardware
>> requirements and they keep using Winblows, or they even put up with
>> running cumulative updates on a Win10 box with no SSD..
>
>
> People who know better (which is 96 out of 100) don't run Linux.
>
>
> Here's a GuhNoo licensed math package Feeb touted recently.
>
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/mathmod/files/MathMod-12.0/
>
> There's a Windows executable already built. I downloaded and installed
> it in about 1 minute.
>
> https://imgur.com/a/KP0nRSS
>
>
> There's no Linux executable, so you have to compile it from source.
>
> Go ahead and download the source and do that, and show a screenshot of
> it running on your Linux crapbox.
>

https://imgur.com/a/LVCqrLH

On 12/9/2024 8:13 PM, Nick Ballard wrote:
> On 2024-12-05, DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote:
>> On 12/4/2024 10:36 PM, Joel wrote:
>>
>>
>>> People who know use Linux, or they pay to chase meeting M$'s hardware
>>> requirements and they keep using Winblows, or they even put up with
>>> running cumulative updates on a Win10 box with no SSD..
>>
>>
>> People who know better (which is 96 out of 100) don't run Linux.
>>
>>
>> Here's a GuhNoo licensed math package Feeb touted recently.
>>
>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/mathmod/files/MathMod-12.0/
>>
>> There's a Windows executable already built. I downloaded and installed
>> it in about 1 minute.
>>
>> https://imgur.com/a/KP0nRSS
>>
>>
>> There's no Linux executable, so you have to compile it from source.
>>
>> Go ahead and download the source and do that, and show a screenshot of
>> it running on your Linux crapbox.
>>
>
> https://imgur.com/a/LVCqrLH

Cool.

Nick Ballard... by my reckoning you haven't posted here in about 12.5 years.

How's your father Rex? One of the nicest posters ever, but also the
most deranged liar and fantasist in cola's history. He quit posting to
cola about 8 years ago, shortly before trying all out to become a woman.
It can't happen, of course. Does he still call himself Debbie Lawrence?