On 12/4/24 2:48 PM, Farley Flud wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Dec 2024 13:04:11 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:
>
>> On 12/4/24 6:33 AM, Farley Flud wrote:
>>> He also has not responded to my ticket that reports an
>>> issue with the coloration.
>>
>>
>> According to his youtube account he has not been active for more than
>> one year. He may've been killed by Israelis.
>>
>
> MathMod-12.0 was released on Sept 26, 2024, so he is still quite
> active.
>
> Also, by coincidence, another ticket which was made on the same day
> as my ticket was answered.
>
>
>
>
>

How can one install MathMod on Linux. Is there a "package" for it? If
there is, it is not at Sourceforge Github.

Also Software Manager cannot find it. So it is not among the
repositories that come with Mint.

You may think this is an elementary or ridiculous issue. It is not. It
is why majority people do not have Linux on their computers. That should
mean something to you or to this forum. If it doesn't, that's yet
another reason Linux is not on majority people's computers.

On Wed, 4 Dec 2024 15:39:29 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:

>
> How can one install MathMod on Linux. Is there a "package" for it? If
> there is, it is not at Sourceforge Github.
>
> Also Software Manager cannot find it. So it is not among the
> repositories that come with Mint.
>

I don't know, but a quick search of RPM's finds this:

http://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=mathmod&submit=Search+...

Apparently it is packaged for some distros.

But you can always build from the source. That's how I do it.

It is quite easy:

unpack tarball

mkdir build && cd build

qmake5 ../MathMod.pro

edit Makefile (if desired)

make

run ./MathMod (no install necessary)

>
> You may think this is an elementary or ridiculous issue. It is not. It
> is why majority people do not have Linux on their computers. That should
> mean something to you or to this forum. If it doesn't, that's yet
> another reason Linux is not on majority people's computers.
>

I doubt if the majority of users, even on GNU/Linux, would be
interested in mathmod.

--
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On 12/4/24 4:17 PM, Farley Flud wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Dec 2024 15:39:29 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:
>
>>
>> How can one install MathMod on Linux. Is there a "package" for it? If
>> there is, it is not at Sourceforge Github.
>>
>> Also Software Manager cannot find it. So it is not among the
>> repositories that come with Mint.
>>
>
> I don't know, but a quick search of RPM's finds this:
>
> http://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=mathmod&submit=Search+...
>
> Apparently it is packaged for some distros.
>
> But you can always build from the source. That's how I do it.
>
> It is quite easy:
>
> unpack tarball
>
> mkdir build && cd build
>
> qmake5 ../MathMod.pro
>
> edit Makefile (if desired)
>
> make
>
> run ./MathMod (no install necessary)
>
>
>>
>> You may think this is an elementary or ridiculous issue. It is not. It
>> is why majority people do not have Linux on their computers. That should
>> mean something to you or to this forum. If it doesn't, that's yet
>> another reason Linux is not on majority people's computers.
>>
>
> I doubt if the majority of users, even on GNU/Linux, would be
> interested in mathmod.
>
>
>
>
>

Thanks I'll try that.

But before I do that:
You and Linux people do not want all computer users to have Linux on
their computers. _Everybody_ (not just the majority) likes to install
apps that he likes. But he cannot do that with Linux. Somebody,
literally by magic, must bring a "qmake5" and "MathMod.pro" out of his
ass, and tell the user that of all the crap his eyes see in that
directory, he ought to pick "MathMod.pro" then show the user how to use
it to install the software he wants, complete with a comment, "Oh that's
easy".

And that doesn't work for people. For people, your "Winblows" beats
GNU/Linux to it! You do not want Linux for people. You want it for
yourself and the likes of yours. A tiny community inside people in general.

You're the reason. You're the reason you're surrounded with Winblows :)

On 12/4/24 4:17 PM, Farley Flud wrote:
> It is quite easy:
>
> unpack tarball
>
> mkdir build && cd build
>
> qmake5 ../MathMod.pro
>
> edit Makefile (if desired)
>
> make
>
> run ./MathMod (no install necessary)

It doesn't work.

I clicked "Download" at Sourceforge site. Unzipped it in a directory.
Changed to that directory. Tried qmake5 ../MathMod.pro. Said it doesn't
know what qmake5 is but I could install it with a sudo apt ... . Did
that. Then same command this time said cannot find file ../MathMod.pro
(it is sitting right there!).

Then I went another route. I did sudo apt install MathMod. It said:

Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package MathMod

So it wants a package, and there's no package for it.

Winblow can defecate on top of this for good reasons :)

On 12/4/2024 7:22 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
> On 12/4/24 4:17 PM, Farley Flud wrote:
>> It is quite easy:
>>
>> unpack tarball
>>
>> mkdir build && cd build
>>
>> qmake5 ../MathMod.pro
>>
>> edit Makefile (if desired)
>>
>> make
>>
>> run ./MathMod (no install necessary)
>
>
> It doesn't work.
>
> I clicked "Download" at Sourceforge site. Unzipped it in a directory.
> Changed to that directory. Tried qmake5 ../MathMod.pro. Said it doesn't
> know what qmake5 is but I could install it with a sudo apt ... . Did
> that. Then same command this time said cannot find file ../MathMod.pro
> (it is sitting right there!).
>
> Then I went another route. I did sudo apt install MathMod. It said:
>
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree... Done
> Reading state information... Done
> E: Unable to locate package MathMod
>
> So it wants a package, and there's no package for it.
>
> Winblow can defecate on top of this for good reasons :)

Welcome to the wacky world of Linux. This kind of time-wasting bullshit
(hassles when compiling from source because there's no Linux executable
available) is what makes people HATE Linux and leave it for a long time
or never come back. It's very irritating.

I downloaded the Windows .exe file, clicked a few times and was running
the app within 1 minute.

On Linux (kali linux on Windows WSL2):

downloaded the source .zip file

$ unzip mathmod-12.0-source.zip (OK, makes dir mathmod-12.0)

Feeb left out a step. At this point you need to change to the newly
created directory:

$ cd mathmod-12.0

then carry on:

$ mkdir build && cd build (OK)

And now the Linux fun starts:
$ qmake5 ../MathMod.pro
Command 'qmake5' not found, did you mean:
command 'qmake' from deb qtchooser
command 'qmake6' from deb qmake6
Try: sudo apt install <deb name>

$ sudo apt install qmake6
[sudo] password for dfs:
Installing:
qmake6

Installing dependencies:
qmake6-bin

Summary:
Upgrading: 0, Installing: 2, Removing: 0, Not Upgrading: 0
Download size: 770 kB
Space needed: 3,013 kB / 1,022 GB available

Continue? [Y/n]
Err:1 http://http.kali.org/kali kali-last-snapshot/main amd64 qmake6-bin
amd64 6.4.2+dfsg-21.1+b1
404 Not Found [IP: 18.211.24.19 80]
Err:2 http://http.kali.org/kali kali-last-snapshot/main amd64 qmake6
amd64 6.4.2+dfsg-21.1+b1
404 Not Found [IP: 18.211.24.19 80]
Error: Failed to fetch
http://http.kali.org/kali/pool/main/q/qt6-base/qmake6-bin_6.4.2%2bdfsg-21.1%2bb1_amd64.deb
404 Not Found [IP: 18.211.24.19 80]
Error: Failed to fetch
http://http.kali.org/kali/pool/main/q/qt6-base/qmake6_6.4.2%2bdfsg-21.1%2bb1_amd64.deb
404 Not Found [IP: 18.211.24.19 80]
Error: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try
with --fix-missing?

Then I spent 10 minutes running
$sudo apt-get update
$sudo apt-get upgrade
$sudo apt install gcc
$sudo apt install g++

$ qmake6 ../MathMod.pro
Project ERROR: Unknown module(s) in QT: core gui opengl widgets
openglwidgets

It's just one missing file error after another after another after another.

Not interested in wasting more time, especially since I have MathMod
running on Windows already, easy peasy.

This! Is! Linux!

On 12/1/24 5:32 PM, Farley Flud wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Nov 2024 16:11:22 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:
>
>>
>> Your use of even a character like Carpentier is impressive. I kill file
>> individuals like that.
>>
>
> Carpentier is OK. He seems to be a staunch GNU/Linux advocate and I can
> respect that.
>
> He just does not recognize who is the Supreme Master and who is the Lackey
> and he needs to work on that.
>
>
>>

Oh, of course. But has he ever asked a Linux question here? Ahah! :)

He could not initiate a thread. I don't like sick poppies like that.

On Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:22:32 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:

>
> It doesn't work.
>

I have uploaded a binary "mathmod_for_cola" that should run
on your system. It needs Qt5 which most distros have installed.

The binary is here:

https://ufile.io/pl37hbgi

Just down to any directory, preferably one that is in your PATH,
and execute.

Example:

Download to /home

Execute as /home/mathmod_for_cola &

If it fails then do:

ldd /home/mathmod_for_cola

and look for any "not found" messages which indicates a missing
dependency.

--
Systemd: solving all the problems that you never knew you had.

On 12/5/24 3:04 AM, Farley Flud wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Dec 2024 18:22:32 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:
>
>>
>> It doesn't work.
>>
>
> I have uploaded a binary "mathmod_for_cola" that should run
> on your system. It needs Qt5 which most distros have installed.
>
> The binary is here:
>
> https://ufile.io/pl37hbgi
>
> Just down to any directory, preferably one that is in your PATH,
> and execute.
>
> Example:
>
> Download to /home
>
> Execute as /home/mathmod_for_cola &
>
> If it fails then do:
>
> ldd /home/mathmod_for_cola
>
> and look for any "not found" messages which indicates a missing
> dependency.
>
>
>

When running it, it says, "permission denied" :) Hehe :) Using sudo at
the beginning says "[the binary] not found" despite the directory being
on the path. So I ran: ldd [the binary] , and got:

../mathmod: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.38' not
found (required by ./mathmod)
../mathmod: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.38' not
found (required by ./mathmod)
../mathmod: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6: version
`GLIBCXX_3.4.32' not found (required by ./mathmod)
../mathmod: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6: version `CXXABI_1.3.15'
not found (required by ./mathmod)

I have installed c and c++ two times before, but this software looks
like needs a particular version of them to work!

Flud, admit it :) When you encounter Winblows, you need to immediately
hit the floor like Mullahs in Iran: Forehead on the ground, ass up in
the air. Then say your respects to Winblows. After that for good measure
you may want to do a somersault too :-))

Linux _sucks_ the way it is presented to people. It could very easily be
without these issues only if those who work on Linux itself wanted to.
But they don't do that because they're bought by Microsoft.

Linux is in the wrong hands in this country.

On Thu, 5 Dec 2024 16:07:51 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:

>
> Linux _sucks_ the way it is presented to people. It could very easily be
> without these issues only if those who work on Linux itself wanted to.
>

If your distro would supply MathMod then their wouldn't be this
problem, but MathMod is probably considered too esoteric for most
distros to adopt.

I am surprised that the build instructions did not work as the qmake
should have determined everything.

Regardless, the problem is not with GNU/Linux but with the distros.

--
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On 12/5/24 4:56 PM, Farley Flud wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Dec 2024 16:07:51 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:
>
>>
>> Linux _sucks_ the way it is presented to people. It could very easily be
>> without these issues only if those who work on Linux itself wanted to.
>>
>
> If your distro would supply MathMod then their wouldn't be this
> problem, but MathMod is probably considered too esoteric for most
> distros to adopt.
>
> I am surprised that the build instructions did not work as the qmake
> should have determined everything.
>
> Regardless, the problem is not with GNU/Linux but with the distros.
>
>
>
>
>

MathMod is just an example. The issue here is installing a random
software that runs on Linux machines.

I needed to scan and print a few pages a few months ago. I got my
printer and attached it to my linux computer. For the rest of that day I
could not make the scanner work. I tried every scan app that I could put
my hands on, and they won't see the scanner (on a Canon printer). I
looked everywhere for a linux driver for it. There was none.
Stackoverflow related sites were all full of crap for it. Old as well as
new. Useless. The one offered by Canon I didn't get from Canon site (it
didn't have it anymore) but from one that had saved what was offered
earlier by Canon. And it did not work either. The scanner/printer is a
few years old.

So next day, at last, I stumbled on a scanning software that when I
installed it, it could see the scanner. Just out of the blue, this one,
out of many others, could do it. Didn't ask for driver or anything. But
by then I had dusted off my Winblows computer and scanned and printed
what I wanted in a jiffy; literally in about 10 minutes I was done.

This is not a joke. It speaks of linux' demise as a forever OS that's
limited to a few, not all. And it is certainly so by design.

On Thu, 5 Dec 2024 17:46:27 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:

>
> This is not a joke. It speaks of linux' demise as a forever OS that's
> limited to a few, not all. And it is certainly so by design.
>

I will have to agree.

I have always maintained that in spite of all the "easy"
distros that strive to bring GNU/Linux to the masses
it will always remain a fringe OS that is used only by
a specialist minority.

There will never be "the year of the GNU/Linux desktop"
that so many hope for.

That won't stop me, however. I will continue to exercise
a productivity in all computing areas on my GNU/Linux
workstations that far exceeds anything attainable on a
Microslop/Apphole machine.

--
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On 12/6/24 2:40 AM, Farley Flud wrote:
> I have always maintained that in spite of all the "easy"
> distros that strive to bring GNU/Linux to the masses
> it will always remain a fringe OS that is used only by
> a specialist minority.

Yes. It is actually for scientists, if you ask me.

I read an amazing article about Gentoo a year or so back and it showed
how it suited a scientist's desires to fine tune it to anything he wants.

I can't find that article now. I even printed it and I cannot find those
printed pages :) Hehe :)

But a computer scientist should be able to create a distro with it that
would work for anyone in the world. But they have not so far allowed
general public to access anything better than adndroid for that purpose.

If there was a distro of linux for computers that would make installing
programs as easy as it is on android phones, then Windows would get
forgotten fast.

On Fri, 6 Dec 2024 14:55:39 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:

>
> If there was a distro of linux for computers that would make installing
> programs as easy as it is on android phones, then Windows would get
> forgotten fast.
>

No. Not really.

Microslop is very popular in the corporate world with the total
ignoramuses therein. Microslop has $billions to develop an idiot-proof
GUI and FOSS just can't compete with those $billions.

Yet in spite of the comparative "poverty" of FOSS developers, they
have managed to create extremely powerful software, but such software
requires above-average skills to utilize properly.

It is the same with Apphole, where $billions are spent to develop
idiot-proof GUIs for sound and video production. Again, FOSS
developers cannot compete with those $billions but, again, they
have managed to create extremely powerful software, but yet again
such software requires above-average skills to utilize properly.

It is the billion-dollar GUIs alone that separates commercial software
from FOSS.

In knowledgeable hands (like mine), however, FOSS is equal if not
outright superior to any commercial offering.

Example:

I have done contract work for professional photography studios
using only GNU/Linux tools and the results were far better than
could ever be accomplished with that junk Photoshop.

--
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On 12/6/24 4:10 PM, Farley Flud wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Dec 2024 14:55:39 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:
>
>>
>> If there was a distro of linux for computers that would make installing
>> programs as easy as it is on android phones, then Windows would get
>> forgotten fast.
>>
>
> No. Not really.
>
> Microslop is very popular in the corporate world with the total
> ignoramuses therein. Microslop has $billions to develop an idiot-proof
> GUI and FOSS just can't compete with those $billions.
>

Linux doesn't have to compete. Linux can do it as a byproduct of its own
development regardless of what others do. Where is Microsoft's OS for
smartphones? See, Linux on smartphones made it disappear.

Develop one for desktops as well, and Windows will disappear by itself.
By its own weight and idiosyncracies.

On 11/30/2024 9:19 AM, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
> Le 28-11-2024, Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> a écrit :
>> A demo of GNU/Linux/FOSS superiority versus commercial software.

> For the most obvious lying part, I don't believe you own a private jet
> and a private yacht. No way. That's the most obvious evidence of your
> lies. I don't know if anyone here believe that, but I don't.

Of course that financial and life loser doesn't own a yacht or a jet.
Don't believe anything he says.

Last year he claimed he was an "adjunct professor in mechanical
engineering". It's a lie.

Earlier this year he claimed he moved to Boston MA. It's a lie.

> For the contradictory parts, you manage to contradict yourself in this
> video alone and with other claims. So for this video, you start by
> saying that $12000 (I really don't like the English/American spelling of
> money) is nothing to you and at the end of your video, you say it's a
> huge amount of money.

He stole Mathematica. He admitted he pirates all commercial software,
books, movies and music.

Le 09-12-2024, DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> a écrit :
> On 11/30/2024 9:19 AM, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote:
>> Le 28-11-2024, Farley Flud <fflud@gnu.rocks> a écrit :
>>> A demo of GNU/Linux/FOSS superiority versus commercial software.
>
>
>> For the most obvious lying part, I don't believe you own a private jet
>> and a private yacht. No way. That's the most obvious evidence of your
>> lies. I don't know if anyone here believe that, but I don't.
>
> Of course that financial and life loser doesn't own a yacht or a jet.
> Don't believe anything he says.

I know, I wasn't wondering if it could be true. I was wondering if
someone else could believe that. It's not the same thing.

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