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Subject: Re: Australian Parliament bans social media for under-16s with world-first law
From: Joel
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From: joelcrump@gmail.com (Joel)
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"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>
>>> Just as true of the stupid social media ban
>
>> But even you must admit SOMETHING must be done?
>
>Nope, kids have always bullied each other.
>
>Mate of mine who used to be a primary school principal
>told me about one kid who got beaten up every time on
>the way home from school. He let the kid leave early so
>he could get home before the thugs got out of school.
>
>> A short drive around town will reveal almost all pedestrianshave their
>> mobile gadgets glued to their faces.
>
>Bullshit and they are actually talking to someone
>else when they are on their phones, not using
>social media and irrelevant to kids under 16
>anyway. I dont even remember seeing kids that
>young on their phones when walking around either.
>
>> Perhaps special "kiddy phones" operableonly when an ID card is inserted?
>
>Doesnt stop them using the older sibling's phone, stupid.

It's presuming to play God to parents and to their offspring. It's
wrongheaded and foolish, treating a 15 year-old as dependent on the
state for this kind of guidance or protectionist appropriation of
liberty. They are doing the same kind of injustice done in Dobbs, if
you examine the tenets in the 14th amendment I quote in my sig.
Australia surely has some similar guarantees.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Subject: Re: Australian Parliament bans social media for under-16s with world-first law
From: Joel
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Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 02 Dec 2024 14:57:38 +1100, "Rod Speed"
><rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote
>>> About time <ban@killergames.too> wrote:
>>
>>>> Subject: Australian Parliament bans social media for under-16s with
>>>> world-first law
>>> It's a poorly conceived law.
>>
>>And can't possibly work given that its so trivial to use a
>>vpn or an older sibling's or parent's social media account.
>>
>Everyone who uses social media will have to validate ID with a Federal
>Government "Digital ID"
>That was quick (what can go wrong)????
>Albanese is behind this
>The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC)
>Digital ID legislation:
>What's changing from 1 December 2024 Eligibility
>You must be 15 years or over to create a Digital ID using the
>Australian Government's ID provider myID.
>
>Will that shut you up Rod?

That in no sense justifies this law.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Subject: Re: Australian Parliament bans social media for under-16s with world-first law
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>
> /snip loads of crap/
>> Albanese is a communist. Australia needs a Trump. Who will step
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>
> Eat shit know nothing subhumnan MAGAt!
>
>> Anybody who watches Yes, Prime Minister is okay.
>
> YAY. Anybody who refuses to recognise the difference between
> fan-fiction comedy and reality truly qualifies these days as a
> MAGAt!!!
>
>> You need a screwdriver for your head.
>
> As opposed to this septic subhuman who is immune to such attacks being
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>
>> You never got out of COVID confinement.
>
> So it must have been COVID that made this devolved troll completely
> brain dead!
>
> /rest of insanity was removed by popular demand/
>
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Subject: Re: Australian Parliament bans social media for under-16s with world-first law
From: Rod Speed
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From: rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com (Rod Speed)
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On Mon, 02 Dec 2024 18:00:21 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 02 Dec 2024 14:57:38 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote
>>> About time <ban@killergames.too> wrote:
>>
>>>> Subject: Australian Parliament bans social media for under-16s with
>>>> world-first law
>>> It's a poorly conceived law.
>>
>> And can't possibly work given that its so trivial to use a
>> vpn or an older sibling's or parent's social media account.

> Everyone who uses social media will have to validate ID with a Federal
> Government "Digital ID"

Not if they have enough of a clue to use a vpn

> That was quick (what can go wrong)????

Everyone who has a clue who doesnt qualify using
a vpn or someone else's social media account

> Albanese is behind this

How odd that the coalition supports it

> The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC)
> Digital ID legislation:
> What's changing from 1 December 2024 Eligibility
> You must be 15 years or over to create a Digital ID using the
> Australian Government's ID provider myID.

Not if you have enough of a clue to use a vpn

> Will that shut you up Rod?

Nothing ever shuts me up, fuckwit

Subject: Re: Australian Parliament bans social media for under-16s with world-first law
From: Rod Speed
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On Mon, 02 Dec 2024 18:04:25 +1100, Moe Larke <mlarke@x.com> wrote:

> On 12/1/2024 8:07 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
>> On Sun, 01 Dec 2024 08:45:31 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>
>>>>> Just not feasible to show ID every timeyou use a particular social
>>>>> media account
>>>
>>>> Big Brother has been around a long time. Ever since they put a
>>>> mugshot on drivers licences. And then Medicare cards. Then the "100
>>>> points" system. And then all those credit cards.
>>>> Ever tried to climb into MSoft's "Microsoft 365"? And all its logins
>>>> and accounts? And then to get out of it? It is far easier to succumb
>>>> to Big Brother than to avoid him!
>>>
>>> All irrelevant to whether its feasible to prove that
>>> it is the social media account holder who is using
>>> a particular social media account at a particular
>>> time when its trivial to share passwords etc.
>>>
>>> Even if bio id is required every time, its trivial to
>>> fake that too.
>>>
>>>> Censorship does work for most; and the few who avoid it have to work
>>>> at it.
>>>
>>> Ditto
>>>
>>>> The Sheeple will always follow the path of least resistance.
>>>
>>> Not with kids that arent allowed to use social media
>>>
>>>>>> or just Geoblock block Australian IP's
>>>
>>>>> Trivial to short circuit that using a vpn
>>>
>>>>>>>> The parents need to work this out.
>>>>>>>> In the 1950's wasn't hard for 8 year olds to share the then
>>>>>>>> "Adult"
>>>>>>>> magazines.
>>>
>>>> It helped to have a much older brother.
>>>
>>> Just as true of the stupid social media ban
>> But even you must admit SOMETHING must be done? A short drive around
>> town will reveal almost all pedestrians have their mobile gadgets
>> glued to their faces. Perhaps special "kiddy phones" operable only
>> when an ID card is inserted?

> That's a good idea.

Nope, no one is going to make unique phone for this country

> Optionally the phones could also be "age branded" and limited to just
> talk and texting.

Not even possible for the phone to work out your age

> If they need entertainment, give them a book to read.

Or tell you to go and fuck yourself

Subject: Re: Australian Parliament bans social media for under-16s with world-first law
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On Mon, 02 Dec 2024 18:10:59 +1100, Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote:

> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>
>>>> Just as true of the stupid social media ban
>>
>>> But even you must admit SOMETHING must be done?
>>
>> Nope, kids have always bullied each other.
>>
>> Mate of mine who used to be a primary school principal
>> told me about one kid who got beaten up every time on
>> the way home from school. He let the kid leave early so
>> he could get home before the thugs got out of school.
>>
>>> A short drive around town will reveal almost all pedestrianshave their
>>> mobile gadgets glued to their faces.
>>
>> Bullshit and they are actually talking to someone
>> else when they are on their phones, not using
>> social media and irrelevant to kids under 16
>> anyway. I dont even remember seeing kids that
>> young on their phones when walking around either.
>>
>>> Perhaps special "kiddy phones" operableonly when an ID card is
>>> inserted?
>>
>> Doesnt stop them using the older sibling's phone, stupid.

> It's presuming to play God to parents and to their offspring.

Plenty of other example of that like with compulsory school attendance

> It's wrongheaded and foolish,

And can't work.

> treating a 15 year-old as dependent on the
> state for this kind of guidance or protectionist appropriation of
> liberty.

Just as true of compulsory school attendence

> They are doing the same kind of injustice done in Dobbs, if
> you examine the tenets in the 14th amendment I quote in my sig.
> Australia surely has some similar guarantees.

Nope

Subject: Re: Australian Parliament bans social media for under-16s with world-first law
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On Mon, 02 Dec 2024 20:30:44 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 02 Dec 2024 18:00:21 +1100, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 02 Dec 2024 14:57:38 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> About time <ban@killergames.too> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Subject: Australian Parliament bans social media for under-16s with
>>>>> world-first law
>>>> It's a poorly conceived law.
>>>
>>> And can't possibly work given that its so trivial to use a
>>> vpn or an older sibling's or parent's social media account.
>
>> Everyone who uses social media will have to validate ID with a Federal
>> Government "Digital ID"
>
>Not if they have enough of a clue to use a vpn
>
Most if not all browsers have a free VPN
I use Opera and MS Edge and not they have a browser VPN
The only problem is social media won't allow a Australian to sigh in
from another country and close your account.
>
>> That was quick (what can go wrong)????
>
>Everyone who has a clue who doesnt qualify using
>a vpn or someone else's social media account
>
>> Albanese is behind this
>
>How odd that the coalition supports it
>
Told you they are ALL anti-Australian freak show!
>
>> The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC)
>> Digital ID legislation:
>> What's changing from 1 December 2024 Eligibility
>> You must be 15 years or over to create a Digital ID using the
>> Australian Government's ID provider myID.
>
>Not if you have enough of a clue to use a vpn
>
Most if not all browsers have a free VPN
I use Opera and MS Edge and not they have a browser VPN
The only problem is social media won't allow a Australian to sigh in
from another country and close your account.
>
>> Will that shut you up Rod?
>
>Nothing ever shuts me up, fuckwit
>
I like your posts
--
Petzl
15 - The number of FBI agents sent to investigate Bubba Wallace's garage door handle
25 - The number of FBI agents sent to arrest Roger Stone while sleeping in his pajamas
0 - The number of FBI agents sent to see Joe or Hunter Biden after given a laptop showing Quid Pro Quo.

The wheels are coming off.

Trump's inspired massive MAGA tsunami turnout forced them to cheat so big they lost their minds in a fraud frenzy.

Their Unconstitutional legal moves alone are dooming them.

"I caught the swamp. I caught them all" -- DJT

Subject: Re: Australian Parliament bans social media for under-16s with world-first law
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Petzl wrote:

>15 - The number of FBI agents sent to investigate Bubba Wallace's garage door handle
>25 - The number of FBI agents sent to arrest Roger Stone while sleeping in his pajamas
>0 - The number of FBI agents sent to see Joe or Hunter Biden after given a laptop showing Quid Pro Quo.

That's our leftists. Evil, rotten bastards.

Hunter won't pay for his crimes now that "the big guy" has pardoned
him.

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On Tue, 03 Dec 2024 17:18:42 -0600, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

>Petzl wrote:
>
>>15 - The number of FBI agents sent to investigate Bubba Wallace's garage door handle
>>25 - The number of FBI agents sent to arrest Roger Stone while sleeping in his pajamas
>>0 - The number of FBI agents sent to see Joe or Hunter Biden after given a laptop showing Quid Pro Quo.
>
>That's our leftists. Evil, rotten bastards.
>
>Hunter won't pay for his crimes now that "the big guy" has pardoned
>him.
>
That only applies for Federal offences not State offences
Trump's next act after January 6thh will be to accurately check if Joe
Biden is a or was a POTUS and had the authority to pardon.
I don't believe Biden was.
Even now the only States Democrat Harris won were those without Voter
ID.
https://ibb.co/StCBQ8q
States without Voter ID were the only ones Harris took.
--
Petzl
According to Dave Hodges' sources ...and he has excellent
sources...the real election results were: Trump: 103 million votes
Dementia Joe: 37 million votes Trump won 49 States, the dementia
patient won New York. The voting machines were so overwhelmed by the
number of votes for Trump, that's why they had to shut everything down
for several hours. Machines were programmed to switch votes but didn't
anticipate so MANY votes.

Subject: Re: Australian Parliament bans social media for under-16s with world-first law
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On Mon, 02 Dec 2024 17:54:38 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>
>>>>> Just not feasible to show ID every timeyou use a particular social
>>>>> media account
>>>
>>>> Big Brother has been around a long time. Ever since they put a
>>>> mugshot on drivers licences. And then Medicare cards. Then the "100
>>>> points" system. And then all those credit cards.
>>>> Ever tried to climb into MSoft's "Microsoft 365"? And all its logins
>>>> and accounts? And then to get out of it? It is far easier to succumb
>>>> to Big Brother than to avoid him!
>>>
>>> All irrelevant to whether its feasible to prove that
>>> it is the social media account holder who is using
>>> a particular social media account at a particular
>>> time when its trivial to share passwords etc.
>>>
>>> Even if bio id is required every time, its trivial to
>>> fake that too.
>>>
>>>> Censorship does work for most; and the few who avoid it have to work
>>>> at it.
>>>
>>> Ditto
>>>
>>>> The Sheeple will always follow the path of least resistance.
>>>
>>> Not with kids that arent allowed to use social media
>>>
>>>>>> or just Geoblock block Australian IP's
>>>
>>>>> Trivial to short circuit that using a vpn
>>>
>>>>>>>> The parents need to work this out.
>>>>>>>> In the 1950's wasn't hard for 8 year olds to share the then "Adult"
>>>>>>>> magazines.
>>>
>>>> It helped to have a much older brother.
>>>
>>> Just as true of the stupid social media ban
>
>> But even you must admit SOMETHING must be done?
>
>Nope, kids have always bullied each other.
>
>Mate of mine who used to be a primary school principal
>told me about one kid who got beaten up every time on
>the way home from school. He let the kid leave early so
>he could get home before the thugs got out of school.
>
>> A short drive around town will reveal almost all pedestrianshave their
>> mobile gadgets glued to their faces.
>
>Bullshit and they are actually talking to someone
>else when they are on their phones, not using
>social media and irrelevant to kids under 16
>anyway. I dont even remember seeing kids that
>young on their phones when walking around either.

What rubbish! Don't you know "invention is the mother of necessity"?
One wonders how people once got on without these infernal devices! And
who is going to lend a kid his/her phone?

>
>> Perhaps special "kiddy phones" operableonly when an ID card is inserted?
>
>Doesnt stop them using the older sibling's phone, stupid.
And who is going to lend a kid his/her phone?

Anyway these gadgets are banned in most classrooms now. They're
almost as bad as TV.

Subject: Re: Australian Parliament bans social media for under-16s with world-first law
From: Rod Speed
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Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

>>>>>> Just not feasible to show ID every timeyou use a particular social
>>>>>> media account

>>>>> Big Brother has been around a long time. Ever since they put a
>>>>> mugshot on drivers licences. And then Medicare cards. Then the "100
>>>>> points" system. And then all those credit cards.
>>>>> Ever tried to climb into MSoft's "Microsoft 365"? And all its logins
>>>>> and accounts? And then to get out of it? It is far easier to
>>>>> succumb to Big Brother than to avoid him!

>>>> All irrelevant to whether its feasible to prove that
>>>> it is the social media account holder who is using
>>>> a particular social media account at a particular
>>>> time when its trivial to share passwords etc.

>>>> Even if bio id is required every time, its trivial to
>>>> fake that too.

>>>>> Censorship does work for most; andthe few who avoid it have to work
>>>>> at it.

>>>> Ditto

>>>>> The Sheeple will always follow the path of least resistance.

>>>> Not with kids that arent allowed to use social media

>>>>>>> or just Geoblock block Australian IP's

>>>>>> Trivial to short circuit that using a vpn

>>>>>>>>> The parents need to work this out.
>>>>>>>>> In the 1950's wasn't hard for 8 year olds to share the then
>>>>>>>>> "Adult" magazines.

>>>>> It helped to have a much older brother.

>>>> Just as true of the stupid social media ban

>>> But even you must admit SOMETHING must be done?

>> Nope, kids have always bullied each other.

>> Mate of mine who used to be a primary school principal
>> told me about one kid who got beaten up every time on
>> the way home from school. He let the kid leave early so
>> he could get home before the thugs got out of school.

>>> A short drive around town will reveal almost all pedestrians
>>> have their mobile gadgets glued to their faces.

>> Bullshit and they are actually talking to someone
>> else when they are on their phones, not using
>> social media and irrelevant to kids under 16
>> anyway. I dont even remember seeing kids that
>> young on their phones when walking around either.

> What rubbish! Don't you know "invention is the mother of necessity"?

Its acually “Necessity is the mother of invention” you ignorant clown

> One wonders how people once got on without these infernal devices!

You can make the same stupid claim about the wheel,
aircraft, cars etc and it would be just as completely
irrelevant and your crap above, to the social media
ban that will apply to those younger than 16

> And who is going to lend a kid his/her phone?

Their parents and older siblings. My mates already do.

>>> Perhaps special "kiddy phones" operable
>>> only when an ID card is inserted?

>> Doesnt stop them using the older sibling's phone, stupid.

> And who is going to lend a kid his/her phone?

Their parents and older siblings. My mates already do.

> Anyway these gadgets are banned in most classrooms now.

Bullshit they are and irrelevant to what
happens when school is out anyway

> They're almost as bad as TV.

Just because you can't find one in a dumpster...

Subject: Re: Australian Parliament bans social media for under-16s with world-first law
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On Wed, 04 Dec 2024 13:39:52 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>
>>>>>>> Just not feasible to show ID every timeyou use a particular social
>>>>>>> media account
>
>>>>>> Big Brother has been around a long time. Ever since they put a
>>>>>> mugshot on drivers licences. And then Medicare cards. Then the "100
>>>>>> points" system. And then all those credit cards.
>>>>>> Ever tried to climb into MSoft's "Microsoft 365"? And all its logins
>>>>>> and accounts? And then to get out of it? It is far easier to
>>>>>> succumb to Big Brother than to avoid him!
>
>>>>> All irrelevant to whether its feasible to prove that
>>>>> it is the social media account holder who is using
>>>>> a particular social media account at a particular
>>>>> time when its trivial to share passwords etc.
>
>>>>> Even if bio id is required every time, its trivial to
>>>>> fake that too.
>
>>>>>> Censorship does work for most; andthe few who avoid it have to work
>>>>>> at it.
>
>>>>> Ditto
>
>>>>>> The Sheeple will always follow the path of least resistance.
>
>>>>> Not with kids that arent allowed to use social media
>
>>>>>>>> or just Geoblock block Australian IP's
>
>>>>>>> Trivial to short circuit that using a vpn
>
>>>>>>>>>> The parents need to work this out.
>>>>>>>>>> In the 1950's wasn't hard for 8 year olds to share the then
>>>>>>>>>> "Adult" magazines.
>
>>>>>> It helped to have a much older brother.
>
>>>>> Just as true of the stupid social media ban
>
>>>> But even you must admit SOMETHING must be done?
>
>>> Nope, kids have always bullied each other.
>
>>> Mate of mine who used to be a primary school principal
>>> told me about one kid who got beaten up every time on
>>> the way home from school. He let the kid leave early so
>>> he could get home before the thugs got out of school.
>
>>>> A short drive around town will reveal almost all pedestrians
>>>> have their mobile gadgets glued to their faces.
>
>>> Bullshit and they are actually talking to someone
>>> else when they are on their phones, not using
>>> social media and irrelevant to kids under 16
>>> anyway. I dont even remember seeing kids that
>>> young on their phones when walking around either.
>
>> What rubbish! Don't you know "invention is the mother of necessity"?
>
>Its acually “Necessity is the mother of invention” you ignorant clown

Moron, I reversed the saying to reflect current times!
>
>> One wonders how people once got on without these infernal devices!
>
>You can make the same stupid claim about the wheel,
>aircraft, cars etc and it would be just as completely
>irrelevant and your crap above, to the social media
>ban that will apply to those younger than 16

It is not the device so much as its rate of introduction. Do you
realize the little tots are watching PORN...!!!
>
>> And who is going to lend a kid his/her phone?
>
>Their parents and older siblings. My mates already do.

Well, that's just grossly irresponsible.
>
>>>> Perhaps special "kiddy phones" operable
>>>> only when an ID card is inserted?
>
>>> Doesnt stop them using the older sibling's phone, stupid.
>
>> And who is going to lend a kid his/her phone?
>
>Their parents and older siblings. My mates already do.
>
>> Anyway these gadgets are banned in most classrooms now.
>
>Bullshit they are and irrelevant to what
>happens when school is out anyway
>
>> They're almost as bad as TV.
>
>Just because you can't find one in a dumpster...

.....uh, but I'm still looking.

Subject: Re: Australian Parliament bans social media for under-16s with world-first law
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On 12/3/2024 4:17 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Dec 2024 17:54:38 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>
>>>>>> Just not feasible to show ID every timeyou use a particular social
>>>>>> media account
>>>>
>>>>> Big Brother has been around a long time. Ever since they put a
>>>>> mugshot on drivers licences. And then Medicare cards. Then the "100
>>>>> points" system. And then all those credit cards.
>>>>> Ever tried to climb into MSoft's "Microsoft 365"? And all its logins
>>>>> and accounts? And then to get out of it? It is far easier to succumb
>>>>> to Big Brother than to avoid him!
>>>>
>>>> All irrelevant to whether its feasible to prove that
>>>> it is the social media account holder who is using
>>>> a particular social media account at a particular
>>>> time when its trivial to share passwords etc.
>>>>
>>>> Even if bio id is required every time, its trivial to
>>>> fake that too.
>>>>
>>>>> Censorship does work for most; and the few who avoid it have to work
>>>>> at it.
>>>>
>>>> Ditto
>>>>
>>>>> The Sheeple will always follow the path of least resistance.
>>>>
>>>> Not with kids that arent allowed to use social media
>>>>
>>>>>>> or just Geoblock block Australian IP's
>>>>
>>>>>> Trivial to short circuit that using a vpn
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The parents need to work this out.
>>>>>>>>> In the 1950's wasn't hard for 8 year olds to share the then "Adult"
>>>>>>>>> magazines.
>>>>
>>>>> It helped to have a much older brother.
>>>>
>>>> Just as true of the stupid social media ban
>>
>>> But even you must admit SOMETHING must be done?
>>
>> Nope, kids have always bullied each other.
>>
>> Mate of mine who used to be a primary school principal
>> told me about one kid who got beaten up every time on
>> the way home from school. He let the kid leave early so
>> he could get home before the thugs got out of school.
>>
>>> A short drive around town will reveal almost all pedestrianshave their
>>> mobile gadgets glued to their faces.
>>
>> Bullshit and they are actually talking to someone
>> else when they are on their phones, not using
>> social media and irrelevant to kids under 16
>> anyway. I dont even remember seeing kids that
>> young on their phones when walking around either.
>
> What rubbish! Don't you know "invention is the mother of necessity"?
> One wonders how people once got on without these infernal devices! And
> who is going to lend a kid his/her phone?

We had radios with flimsy antennas and books back then. You can learn a
lot from a book when the batteries die.

>>
>>> Perhaps special "kiddy phones" operableonly when an ID card is inserted?
>>
>> Doesnt stop them using the older sibling's phone, stupid.
> And who is going to lend a kid his/her phone?
>
> Anyway these gadgets are banned in most classrooms now. They're
> almost as bad as TV.

They aren't banned in enough.

https://vidmax.com/video/219236-north-carolina-substitute-teacher-ground-and-pounds-handsy-teen

Subject: Re: Australian Parliament bans social media for under-16s with world-first law
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From: pj@jostle.com (Peter Jason)
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On Tue, 3 Dec 2024 19:32:08 -0800, Eric Sean <ericsean@infiniti.net>
wrote:

>On 12/3/2024 4:17 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
>> On Mon, 02 Dec 2024 17:54:38 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>
>>>>>>> Just not feasible to show ID every timeyou use a particular social
>>>>>>> media account
>>>>>
>>>>>> Big Brother has been around a long time. Ever since they put a
>>>>>> mugshot on drivers licences. And then Medicare cards. Then the "100
>>>>>> points" system. And then all those credit cards.
>>>>>> Ever tried to climb into MSoft's "Microsoft 365"? And all its logins
>>>>>> and accounts? And then to get out of it? It is far easier to succumb
>>>>>> to Big Brother than to avoid him!
>>>>>
>>>>> All irrelevant to whether its feasible to prove that
>>>>> it is the social media account holder who is using
>>>>> a particular social media account at a particular
>>>>> time when its trivial to share passwords etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Even if bio id is required every time, its trivial to
>>>>> fake that too.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Censorship does work for most; and the few who avoid it have to work
>>>>>> at it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ditto
>>>>>
>>>>>> The Sheeple will always follow the path of least resistance.
>>>>>
>>>>> Not with kids that arent allowed to use social media
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> or just Geoblock block Australian IP's
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Trivial to short circuit that using a vpn
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The parents need to work this out.
>>>>>>>>>> In the 1950's wasn't hard for 8 year olds to share the then "Adult"
>>>>>>>>>> magazines.
>>>>>
>>>>>> It helped to have a much older brother.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just as true of the stupid social media ban
>>>
>>>> But even you must admit SOMETHING must be done?
>>>
>>> Nope, kids have always bullied each other.
>>>
>>> Mate of mine who used to be a primary school principal
>>> told me about one kid who got beaten up every time on
>>> the way home from school. He let the kid leave early so
>>> he could get home before the thugs got out of school.
>>>
>>>> A short drive around town will reveal almost all pedestrianshave their
>>>> mobile gadgets glued to their faces.
>>>
>>> Bullshit and they are actually talking to someone
>>> else when they are on their phones, not using
>>> social media and irrelevant to kids under 16
>>> anyway. I dont even remember seeing kids that
>>> young on their phones when walking around either.
>>
>> What rubbish! Don't you know "invention is the mother of necessity"?
>> One wonders how people once got on without these infernal devices! And
>> who is going to lend a kid his/her phone?
>
>We had radios with flimsy antennas and books back then. You can learn a
>lot from a book when the batteries die.
>
>>>
>>>> Perhaps special "kiddy phones" operableonly when an ID card is inserted?
>>>
>>> Doesnt stop them using the older sibling's phone, stupid.
>> And who is going to lend a kid his/her phone?
>>
>> Anyway these gadgets are banned in most classrooms now. They're
>> almost as bad as TV.
>
>They aren't banned in enough.
>
>https://vidmax.com/video/219236-north-carolina-substitute-teacher-ground-and-pounds-handsy-teen

Heavens, just like the old days; when a disruption would result in a
good slap (or worse) and instant ejection from the class.

Mobiles are the opium of the people!

Subject: Re: Australian Parliament bans social media for under-16s with world-first law
From: Rod Speed
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Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>
>>>>>>>> Just not feasible to show ID every timeyou use a particular social
>>>>>>>> media account
>>
>>>>>>> Big Brother has been around a long time. Ever since they put a
>>>>>>> mugshot on drivers licences. And then Medicare cards. Then the
>>>>>>> "100
>>>>>>> points" system. And then all those credit cards.
>>>>>>> Ever tried to climb into MSoft's "Microsoft 365"? And all its
>>>>>>> logins
>>>>>>> and accounts? And then to get out of it? It is far easier to
>>>>>>> succumb to Big Brother than to avoid him!
>>
>>>>>> All irrelevant to whether its feasible to prove that
>>>>>> it is the social media account holder who is using
>>>>>> a particular social media account at a particular
>>>>>> time when its trivial to share passwords etc.
>>
>>>>>> Even if bio id is required every time, its trivial to
>>>>>> fake that too.
>>
>>>>>>> Censorship does work for most; andthe few who avoid it have to work
>>>>>>> at it.
>>
>>>>>> Ditto
>>
>>>>>>> The Sheeple will always follow the path of least resistance.
>>
>>>>>> Not with kids that arent allowed to use social media
>>
>>>>>>>>> or just Geoblock block Australian IP's
>>
>>>>>>>> Trivial to short circuit that using a vpn
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The parents need to work this out.
>>>>>>>>>>> In the 1950's wasn't hard for 8 year olds to share the then
>>>>>>>>>>> "Adult" magazines.
>>
>>>>>>> It helped to have a much older brother.
>>
>>>>>> Just as true of the stupid social media ban
>>
>>>>> But even you must admit SOMETHING must be done?
>>
>>>> Nope, kids have always bullied each other.
>>
>>>> Mate of mine who used to be a primary school principal
>>>> told me about one kid who got beaten up every time on
>>>> the way home from school. He let the kid leave early so
>>>> he could get home before the thugs got out of school.
>>
>>>>> A short drive around town will reveal almost all pedestrians
>>>>> have their mobile gadgets glued to their faces.
>>
>>>> Bullshit and they are actually talking to someone
>>>> else when they are on their phones, not using
>>>> social media and irrelevant to kids under 16
>>>> anyway. I dont even remember seeing kids that
>>>> young on their phones when walking around either.
>>
>>> What rubbish! Don't you know "invention is the mother of necessity"?
>>
>> Its acually “Necessity is the mother of invention” you ignorant clown

> Moron, I reversed the saying to reflect current times!

You never could bullshit your way out of a wet paper bag

>>> One wonders how people once got on without these infernal devices!

>> You can make the same stupid claim about the wheel,
>> aircraft, cars etc and it would be just as completely
>> irrelevant and your crap above, to the social media
>> ban that will apply to those younger than 16

> It is not the device so much as its rate of introduction.

It took off very fast because it is so useful and affordable

> Do you realize the little tots are watching PORN...!!!

Must be why all kids under 16 were banned from
the internet completely and not just social media.

>>> And who is going to lend a kid his/her phone?

>> Their parents and older siblings. My mates already do.

> Well, that's just grossly irresponsible.

Nope, its very useful for them for
games, buying stuff they need,
and helping the parents use them.

>>>>> Perhaps special "kiddy phones" operable
>>>>> only when an ID card is inserted?

>>>> Doesnt stop them using the older sibling's phone, stupid.

>>> And who is going to lend a kid his/her phone?

>> Their parents and older siblings. My mates already do.

>>> Anyway these gadgets are banned in most classrooms now.

>> Bullshit they are and irrelevant to what
>> happens when school is out anyway

>>> They're almost as bad as TV.

>> Just because you can't find one in a dumpster...

> ....uh, but I'm still looking.

The only ones you will find are the stolen or lost ones
that the thief or finder has discovered are locked so
that they can't be used by the thief or finder.

Subject: Re: Australian Parliament bans social media for under-16s with world-first law
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Crisv shat into Usenet

> That's our leftists. Evil, rotten bastards.

Stop projecting MAGA freak.
>
> Hunter won't pay for his crimes now that "the big guy" has pardoned
> him.
Yeah! Huge crimes! A laptop filled with images of his own dick!

In the mean while, your senile orange limpdick had pardoned hardened
criminal fraudsters, revelled in nepotism and corruption, enriched
himself using his POTUS position, took pride in his own crimes.
And now that he is back he just do more of the same. Plus playing some
rabid dictator nonsense.

Eat your own shit MAGAt troll!

--
You are now busted!

Subject: Re: Australian Parliament bans social media for under-16s with world-first law
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On 12/3/2024 6:39 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>
>>>>>>> Just not feasible to show ID every timeyou use a particular
>>>>>>> social  media account
>
>>>>>> Big Brother has been around a long time.  Ever since they put a
>>>>>> mugshot on drivers licences.  And then Medicare cards. Then the "100
>>>>>> points" system. And then all those credit cards.
>>>>>> Ever tried to climb into MSoft's "Microsoft 365"? And all its logins
>>>>>> and accounts?  And then to get out of it?  It is far easier to
>>>>>> succumb  to Big Brother than to avoid him!
>
>>>>> All irrelevant to whether its feasible to prove that
>>>>> it is the social media account holder who is using
>>>>> a particular social media account at a particular
>>>>> time when its trivial to share passwords etc.
>
>>>>> Even if bio id is required every time, its trivial to
>>>>> fake that too.
>
>>>>>> Censorship does work for most; andthe few who avoid it have to
>>>>>> work  at it.
>
>>>>> Ditto
>
>>>>>> The Sheeple will always follow the path of least resistance.
>
>>>>> Not with kids that arent allowed to use social media
>
>>>>>>>> or just Geoblock block Australian IP's
>
>>>>>>> Trivial to short circuit that using a vpn
>
>>>>>>>>>> The parents need to work this out.
>>>>>>>>>> In the 1950's wasn't hard for 8 year olds to share the then
>>>>>>>>>> "Adult"  magazines.
>
>>>>>> It helped to have a much older brother.
>
>>>>> Just as true of the stupid social media ban
>
>>>> But even you must admit SOMETHING must be done?
>
>>> Nope, kids have always bullied each other.
>
>>> Mate of mine who used to be a primary school principal
>>> told me about one kid who got beaten up every time on
>>> the way home from school. He let the kid leave early so
>>> he could get home before the thugs got out of school.
>
>>>> A short drive around  town will reveal almost all pedestrians
>>>> have their  mobile gadgets   glued to their faces.
>
>>> Bullshit and they are actually talking to someone
>>> else when they are on their phones, not using
>>> social media and irrelevant to kids under 16
>>> anyway. I dont even remember seeing kids that
>>> young on their phones when walking around either.
>
>> What rubbish!  Don't you know "invention is the mother of necessity"?
>
> Its acually “Necessity is the mother of invention” you ignorant clown

Did you know "acually" is the opposite of "actually"?

>> One wonders how people once got on without these infernal devices!
>
> You can make the same stupid claim about the wheel,
> aircraft, cars etc and it would be just as completely
> irrelevant and your crap above, to the social media
> ban that will apply to those younger than 16

The kids of today are too stupid to invent wheels.

>> And  who is going to lend a kid his/her phone?
>
> Their parents and older siblings. My mates already do.

Some families are predisposed to below average achievements.

>>>> Perhaps special "kiddy phones" operable
>>>> only  when an ID card is  inserted?
>
>>> Doesnt stop them using the older sibling's phone, stupid.
>
>> And who is going to lend a kid his/her phone?
>
> Their parents and older siblings. My mates already do.

Do they get them back with new porn?

>> Anyway these gadgets are banned in most classrooms now.
>
> Bullshit they are and irrelevant to what
> happens when school is out anyway

That's when the kids get into real trouble because of them.

>> They're  almost as bad as TV.
>
> Just because you can't find one in a dumpster...

Who needs a TV these days?

https://www.hauppauge.com/pages/products/prods_tuners.html

Subject: Re: Australian Parliament bans social media for under-16s with world-first law
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On Wed, 4 Dec 2024 14:44:49 -0800, St Luthor <stluthor@ologh.org>
wrote:

>On 12/3/2024 6:39 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote
>>
>>>>>>>> Just not feasible to show ID every timeyou use a particular
>>>>>>>> social  media account
>>
>>>>>>> Big Brother has been around a long time.  Ever since they put a
>>>>>>> mugshot on drivers licences.  And then Medicare cards. Then the "100
>>>>>>> points" system. And then all those credit cards.
>>>>>>> Ever tried to climb into MSoft's "Microsoft 365"? And all its logins
>>>>>>> and accounts?  And then to get out of it?  It is far easier to
>>>>>>> succumb  to Big Brother than to avoid him!
>>
>>>>>> All irrelevant to whether its feasible to prove that
>>>>>> it is the social media account holder who is using
>>>>>> a particular social media account at a particular
>>>>>> time when its trivial to share passwords etc.
>>
>>>>>> Even if bio id is required every time, its trivial to
>>>>>> fake that too.
>>
>>>>>>> Censorship does work for most; andthe few who avoid it have to
>>>>>>> work  at it.
>>
>>>>>> Ditto
>>
>>>>>>> The Sheeple will always follow the path of least resistance.
>>
>>>>>> Not with kids that arent allowed to use social media
>>
>>>>>>>>> or just Geoblock block Australian IP's
>>
>>>>>>>> Trivial to short circuit that using a vpn
>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The parents need to work this out.
>>>>>>>>>>> In the 1950's wasn't hard for 8 year olds to share the then
>>>>>>>>>>> "Adult"  magazines.
>>
>>>>>>> It helped to have a much older brother.
>>
>>>>>> Just as true of the stupid social media ban
>>
>>>>> But even you must admit SOMETHING must be done?
>>
>>>> Nope, kids have always bullied each other.
>>
>>>> Mate of mine who used to be a primary school principal
>>>> told me about one kid who got beaten up every time on
>>>> the way home from school. He let the kid leave early so
>>>> he could get home before the thugs got out of school.
>>
>>>>> A short drive around  town will reveal almost all pedestrians
>>>>> have their  mobile gadgets   glued to their faces.
>>
>>>> Bullshit and they are actually talking to someone
>>>> else when they are on their phones, not using
>>>> social media and irrelevant to kids under 16
>>>> anyway. I dont even remember seeing kids that
>>>> young on their phones when walking around either.
>>
>>> What rubbish!  Don't you know "invention is the mother of necessity"?
>>
>> Its acually “Necessity is the mother of invention” you ignorant clown
>
>Did you know "acually" is the opposite of "actually"?
>
>>> One wonders how people once got on without these infernal devices!
>>
>> You can make the same stupid claim about the wheel,
>> aircraft, cars etc and it would be just as completely
>> irrelevant and your crap above, to the social media
>> ban that will apply to those younger than 16
>
>The kids of today are too stupid to invent wheels.
>
>>> And  who is going to lend a kid his/her phone?
>>
>> Their parents and older siblings. My mates already do.
>
>Some families are predisposed to below average achievements.
>
>>>>> Perhaps special "kiddy phones" operable
>>>>> only  when an ID card is  inserted?
>>
>>>> Doesnt stop them using the older sibling's phone, stupid.
>>
>>> And who is going to lend a kid his/her phone?
>>
>> Their parents and older siblings. My mates already do.
>
>Do they get them back with new porn?
>
>>> Anyway these gadgets are banned in most classrooms now.
>>
>> Bullshit they are and irrelevant to what
>> happens when school is out anyway
>
>That's when the kids get into real trouble because of them.
>
>>> They're  almost as bad as TV.
>>
>> Just because you can't find one in a dumpster...
>
>Who needs a TV these days?
>
>https://www.hauppauge.com/pages/products/prods_tuners.html

Quite so: I had one of these once but let it go with the old computer
I sold. I used to download TV movies which I then cleared of ads
with "VideoReDo". The ads took up 30% - 50% of free-to-air viewing
time.
I could not manage to hack my old PVR for its stored movies and so I
want to renew the old method. I lost that Chinese Olympic games
intro., and the Charles III coronation all because of the copyright
lock.

Subject: Re: Australian Parliament bans social media for under-16s with world-first law
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St Luthor <stluthor@ologh.org> wrote:

>Who needs a TV these days?
>
>https://www.hauppauge.com/pages/products/prods_tuners.html

Certainly interesting, but I can assure people they'll need good
antennas for OTA reception..

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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Psychotic Nutjob Buster wrote:

>> Hunter won't pay for his crimes now that "the big guy" has pardoned
>> him.
>
>Yeah! Huge crimes! A laptop filled with images of his own dick!

Try tax crimes and gun crimes, for starters, moron.

--
"Both PDF's came from you [Steve Mackey]." - some thing, lying
shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)

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In article <q8s1ljld90lm2kjvunm5cbaervqljhns0b@4ax.com>
chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
> Psychotic Nutjob Buster wrote:
>
> >> Hunter won't pay for his crimes now that "the big guy" has pardoned
> >> him.
> >
> >Yeah! Huge crimes! A laptop filled with images of his own dick!
>
> Try tax crimes and gun crimes, for starters, moron.
>

Care for some cheese with that whine?

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Nomen Nescio wrote:
> In article <q8s1ljld90lm2kjvunm5cbaervqljhns0b@4ax.com>
> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> Psychotic Nutjob Buster wrote:
>>
>>>> Hunter won't pay for his crimes now that "the big guy" has pardoned
>>>> him.
>>>
>>> Yeah! Huge crimes! A laptop filled with images of his own dick!
>>
>> Try tax crimes and gun crimes, for starters, moron.
>>
>
> Care for some cheese with that whine?
>
no but you should be offering me champagne anyway you cheap shit date

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% <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Nomen Nescio wrote:
> > In article <q8s1ljld90lm2kjvunm5cbaervqljhns0b@4ax.com>
> > chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> >>
> >> Psychotic Nutjob Buster wrote:
> >>
> >>>> Hunter won't pay for his crimes now that "the big guy" has pardoned
> >>>> him.
> >>>
> >>> Yeah! Huge crimes! A laptop filled with images of his own dick!
> >>
> >> Try tax crimes and gun crimes, for starters, moron.
> >>
> >
> > Care for some cheese with that whine?
> >
> no but you should be offering me champagne anyway you cheap shit date

:-)

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Some pathetic nym-shifting loser, going by the well-known dizum.com
nym "Nomen Nescio" wrote:

> (snipped, unread)

You can't beat me, loser. I'm better than you.

(Follow-on posts by "%" and "Nomen" also deleted, unread, as will any
response to this post.

Subject: Re: Australian Parliament bans social media for under-16s with world-first law
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In article <qnc4ljtmf6k9s7l97arl487gmgmga0c27d@4ax.com>
chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
> Some pathetic nym-shifting loser, going by the well-known dizum.com
> nym "Nomen Nescio" wrote:
>
> > (snipped, unread)
>
> You can't beat me, loser. I'm better than you.
>
> (Follow-on posts by "%" and "Nomen" also deleted, unread, as will any
> response to this post.

LMAO!

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