I have decided to trash my accessory Core i7 machine and replace it
with a Xeon W based system.

The last time I checked, a Xeon W system would cost over $2K and
I was reluctant.

But now I found some fantastic bargains:

Xeon W-1270P

https://www.newegg.com/intel-xeon-w-1270p-lga-1200/p/N82E16819118407

Gigabyte W480 Visual W

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813145224

All I need is memory and a heat sink and I'm in business for
less that $1K. (I can reuse my power supply, video card, and
SATA HDD drives -- for now.)

The Xeon W-1270P has 8 cores but it lacks AVX-512 which is no
problem because this my accessory machine.

Of course I would NEVER install that stinking pile of garbage
known as Microshit Winblows on this THIS fantastic machine.

ONLY GNU/Linux can bring out the true power.

ONLY GNU/Linux.

The case is closed.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

--
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On 2024-12-03, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote:
> I have decided to trash my accessory Core i7 machine and replace it
> with a Xeon W based system.
>
> The last time I checked, a Xeon W system would cost over $2K and
> I was reluctant.
>
> But now I found some fantastic bargains:
>

> Xeon W-1270P
>
> https://www.newegg.com/intel-xeon-w-1270p-lga-1200/p/N82E16819118407
>
> Gigabyte W480 Visual W
>
> https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813145224
>
> All I need is memory and a heat sink and I'm in business for
> less that $1K. (I can reuse my power supply, video card, and
> SATA HDD drives -- for now.)
>
> The Xeon W-1270P has 8 cores but it lacks AVX-512 which is no
> problem because this my accessory machine.
>
> Of course I would NEVER install that stinking pile of garbage
> known as Microshit Winblows on this THIS fantastic machine.
>
> ONLY GNU/Linux can bring out the true power.
>
> ONLY GNU/Linux.
>
> The case is closed.
>
> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
>
>
Are you mentally challenged?
You appear to be retarded.
Asking for a friend.

--
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On 12/3/2024 3:45 PM, Farley Flud wrote:

> Xeon W-1270P
>
> https://www.newegg.com/intel-xeon-w-1270p-lga-1200/p/N82E16819118407

Bogus.

Save some money and get a better chip: AMD 5800X3D

$300 at Microcenter right now.

> Gigabyte W480 Visual W
>
> https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813145224

https://pangoly.com/en/compatibility/amd-ryzen-7-5800x3d/motherboard

> Of course I would NEVER install that stinking pile of garbage
> known as Microshit Winblows on this THIS fantastic machine.

Of course you would, so you can bring your Windows work home.

On 12/3/24 2:45 PM, Farley Flud wrote:
> I have decided to trash my accessory Core i7 machine and replace it
> with a Xeon W based system.
>
> The last time I checked, a Xeon W system would cost over $2K and
> I was reluctant.
>
> But now I found some fantastic bargains:
>
> Xeon W-1270P
>
> https://www.newegg.com/intel-xeon-w-1270p-lga-1200/p/N82E16819118407
>
> Gigabyte W480 Visual W
>
> https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813145224
>
> All I need is memory and a heat sink and I'm in business for
> less that $1K. (I can reuse my power supply, video card, and
> SATA HDD drives -- for now.)
>
> The Xeon W-1270P has 8 cores but it lacks AVX-512 which is no
> problem because this my accessory machine.
>
> Of course I would NEVER install that stinking pile of garbage
> known as Microshit Winblows on this THIS fantastic machine.
>
> ONLY GNU/Linux can bring out the true power.
>
> ONLY GNU/Linux.
>
> The case is closed.
>
> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
>
>

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2332490.m570.l1313&_nkw=New+Intel+Xeon+W-2223+3.60GHz+Quad-Core+8.25MB+LGA+2066+CPU+P%2FN%3ASRGSX&_sacat=0

On 12/3/24 2:45 PM, Farley Flud wrote:
> I have decided to trash my accessory Core i7 machine and replace it
> with a Xeon W based system

I hope it supports Linux. My Xeon machine (S20) cannot support Linux. I
can install it, but it crashes after a minute or so.

It works with Windows fine, although I've not used it for months since I
began using my linux machine

On Tue, 3 Dec 2024 21:51:39 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:

>
> I hope it supports Linux. My Xeon machine (S20) cannot support Linux. I
> can install it, but it crashes after a minute or so.
>

That's not possible. GNU/Linux supports anything and everything.

It's probably an issue with a proprietary driver.

--
Systemd: solving all the problems that you never knew you had.

On Tue, 3 Dec 2024 23:36:52 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com>
wrote in <vio4mk$ds39$1@dont-email.me>:

> On 2024-12-03, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote:
>> I have decided to trash my accessory Core i7 machine and replace it
>> with a Xeon W based system.
>>
>> The last time I checked, a Xeon W system would cost over $2K and I was
>> reluctant.
>>
>> But now I found some fantastic bargains:
>>
>>
>> Xeon W-1270P
>>
>> https://www.newegg.com/intel-xeon-w-1270p-lga-1200/p/N82E16819118407
>>
>> Gigabyte W480 Visual W
>>
>> https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813145224
>>
>> All I need is memory and a heat sink and I'm in business for less that
>> $1K. (I can reuse my power supply, video card, and SATA HDD drives --
>> for now.)
>>
>> The Xeon W-1270P has 8 cores but it lacks AVX-512 which is no problem
>> because this my accessory machine.
>>
>> Of course I would NEVER install that stinking pile of garbage known as
>> Microshit Winblows on this THIS fantastic machine.
>>
>> ONLY GNU/Linux can bring out the true power.
>>
>> ONLY GNU/Linux.
>>
>> The case is closed.
>>
>> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
>>
>>
> Are you mentally challenged?
> You appear to be retarded.
> Asking for a friend.

I'll say -- he's going on about an 8-core processor. (SMDH)

$ grep processor /proc/cpuinfo | wc -l
64
(32 HT cores)

Anybody else?

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On 4 Dec 2024 15:42:23 GMT, vallor wrote:

>
> he's going on about an 8-core processor. (SMDH)
>

How am I "going on?"

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha! What a dumb-head!

I am merely reporting the CPU type and basic specs.

The Xeon W is a better processor overall. It is more
durable than all AMD junk and it uses ECC memory (of
which I shall acquire 32 G).

However, I am "going on" about the remarkable bargains
that I have encountered. Current Xeon W processors
with similar specs cost about four times as much and
the same for motherboards.

--
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On 12/4/2024 10:42 AM, vallor wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Dec 2024 23:36:52 -0000 (UTC), pothead <pothead@snakebite.com>
> wrote in <vio4mk$ds39$1@dont-email.me>:
>
>> On 2024-12-03, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote:
>>> I have decided to trash my accessory Core i7 machine and replace it
>>> with a Xeon W based system.
>>>
>>> The last time I checked, a Xeon W system would cost over $2K and I was
>>> reluctant.
>>>
>>> But now I found some fantastic bargains:
>>>
>>>
>>> Xeon W-1270P
>>>
>>> https://www.newegg.com/intel-xeon-w-1270p-lga-1200/p/N82E16819118407
>>>
>>> Gigabyte W480 Visual W
>>>
>>> https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813145224
>>>
>>> All I need is memory and a heat sink and I'm in business for less that
>>> $1K. (I can reuse my power supply, video card, and SATA HDD drives --
>>> for now.)
>>>
>>> The Xeon W-1270P has 8 cores but it lacks AVX-512 which is no problem
>>> because this my accessory machine.
>>>
>>> Of course I would NEVER install that stinking pile of garbage known as
>>> Microshit Winblows on this THIS fantastic machine.
>>>
>>> ONLY GNU/Linux can bring out the true power.
>>>
>>> ONLY GNU/Linux.
>>>
>>> The case is closed.
>>>
>>> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
>>>
>>>
>> Are you mentally challenged?
>> You appear to be retarded.
>> Asking for a friend.
>
> I'll say -- he's going on about an 8-core processor. (SMDH)
> $ grep processor /proc/cpuinfo | wc -l
> 64
> (32 HT cores)
>
> Anybody else?

Remember that Feeb does more in one day with 8 cores than you do in a
year with 64. Or so that's the claim from the geek in Mom's basement.

Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote:
>On 4 Dec 2024 15:42:23 GMT, vallor wrote:
>
>> he's going on about an 8-core processor. (SMDH)
>
>How am I "going on?"
>
>Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha! What a dumb-head!
>
>I am merely reporting the CPU type and basic specs.
>
>The Xeon W is a better processor overall. It is more
>durable than all AMD junk and it uses ECC memory (of
>which I shall acquire 32 G).
>
>However, I am "going on" about the remarkable bargains
>that I have encountered. Current Xeon W processors
>with similar specs cost about four times as much and
>the same for motherboards.

I think vallor may be suggesting, as I would, that your Xeon would
almost work in my computer, being LGA 1200. Your conception of your
machines is peculiar, using older standards and hard drives.

--
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Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote:
>On 12/4/2024 10:42 AM, vallor wrote:
>>
> > [Larry is] going on about an 8-core processor. (SMDH)
> > $ grep processor /proc/cpuinfo | wc -l
>> 64
>> (32 HT cores)
>>
>> Anybody else?
>
>Remember that Feeb does more in one day with 8 cores than you do in a
>year with 64. Or so that's the claim from the geek in Mom's basement.

Larry appears to engage some advanced stuff, but at the cost of having
a system that in any way resembles a "PC", it's just a tinkering
setup.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

On 12/4/24 6:35 AM, Farley Flud wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Dec 2024 21:51:39 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:
>
>>
>> I hope it supports Linux. My Xeon machine (S20) cannot support Linux. I
>> can install it, but it crashes after a minute or so.
>>
>
> That's not possible. GNU/Linux supports anything and everything.
>
> It's probably an issue with a proprietary driver.
>
>
>
>

The computer is still there gathering dust. I may clean it up and
install Linux yet another time (I've done it two times without success -
a year apart) using mb's own graphics driver to see if it works. That
computer is a gem. Old but very powerful as far as how I used it.

On Tue, 3 Dec 2024 21:43:28 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:

>
> https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2332490.m570.l1313&_nkw=New+Intel+Xeon+W-2223+3.60GHz+Quad-Core+8.25MB+LGA+2066+CPU+P%2FN%3ASRGSX&_sacat=0
>

This has got to be a scam. The Xeon W-2223 is selling for -- by
the reputable suppliers who still have it in stock -- $250 and up.

But then one would require a motherboard and these seem to have
fallen off the market.

The fucking commercial computer market is totally insane. There
are new chips released every quarter and the "old" models are
falling off just as fast. Not too long ago, one could pick up
obsolete stuff easily and cheaply but not anymore. Sellers are
not willing to stock anything but the "latest and greatest."

However, if my Hong Kong supplier comes through, I will have a
great system for comparatively dirt cheap.

Furthermore, the GNU/Linux OS will make it perform to its utmost.

--
Systemd: solving all the problems that you never knew you had.

On 12/4/24 1:21 PM, Farley Flud wrote:
> This has got to be a scam. The Xeon W-2223 is selling for -- by
> the reputable suppliers who still have it in stock -- $250 and up.

I think it is the reputable supplier that has not caught up.

Here's another one ofr $6 :)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/374385461600

On Wed, 4 Dec 2024 14:51:01 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:

>
> Here's another one ofr $6 :)
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/374385461600
>

That's used.

NEVER shop on ebay for critical components.

--
Systemd: solving all the problems that you never knew you had.

On 12/4/24 3:34 PM, Farley Flud wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Dec 2024 14:51:01 -0600, Physfitfreak wrote:
>
>>
>> Here's another one ofr $6 :)
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/374385461600
>>
>
> That's used.
>
> NEVER shop on ebay for critical components.
>
>
>
>
>

I think it has a two-year warranty for an additional $3.

I don't know. Some of you guys are computer science majors. So the
computer itself means a lot to you. You know, like car enthusiasts. I've
never bought a new car. I don't pay that price for a car. A car to me is
something that passes inspections and doesn't look like a wreck and
reliably and comfortably takes me to places I want. Such a car is a
tenth of the price of a new car.

Same with computers. I have a heck of a lot of fun with something as
simple as BASIC-F app on my 2nd hand android phone. I program with it
stuff to use when walking, etc. Stuff that are so fine tuned to exactly
what I need that no app on Google Store can do. Computer itself is not
my passion.

On 12/4/2024 12:30 PM, Joel wrote:
> DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote:
>> On 12/4/2024 10:42 AM, vallor wrote:
>>>
>>> [Larry is] going on about an 8-core processor. (SMDH)
>> > $ grep processor /proc/cpuinfo | wc -l
>>> 64
>>> (32 HT cores)
>>>
>>> Anybody else?
>>
>> Remember that Feeb does more in one day with 8 cores than you do in a
>> year with 64. Or so that's the claim from the geek in Mom's basement.
>
>
> Larry appears to engage some advanced stuff, but at the cost of having
> a system that in any way resembles a "PC", it's just a tinkering
> setup.

In the past Feeb dedicated 10 new threads and 60 total posts (over 42
days) talking about getting an OS installed on one computer.

A New Linux Machine Begins 23 Feb 2021
A New Linux Machine Begins (Update) 25 Feb
A New Linux Machine Begins (Update II) 28 Feb
A New Linux Machine Begins (Update III) 4 Mar
A New Linux Machine Begins (Final Update) 18 Mar
A New Linux Machine Begins (Final Update II) 20 Mar
A New Linux Machine Begins - IT'S ALIVE!!!! 30 Mar
A New Linux Machine Begins -- Last Piece! 3 Apr
A New Linux Machine Begins -- Post Update 4 Apr
A New Linux Machine Begins -- Aftermath Update 5 Apr

(+50 replies to these new threads)

kook + Gentoo = FAIL

On Wed, 04 Dec 2024 16:32:11 +0000, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote in
<pan$3d048$ca937409$e87c9133$e553b412@linux.rocks>:

> On 4 Dec 2024 15:42:23 GMT, vallor wrote:
>
>
>> he's going on about an 8-core processor. (SMDH)
>>
>>
> How am I "going on?"
>
> Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha! What a dumb-head!
>
> I am merely reporting the CPU type and basic specs.
>
> The Xeon W is a better processor overall. It is more durable than all
> AMD junk and it uses ECC memory (of which I shall acquire 32 G).
>
> However, I am "going on" about the remarkable bargains that I have
> encountered. Current Xeon W processors with similar specs cost about
> four times as much and the same for motherboards.

Handle 0x000A, DMI type 16, 23 bytes
Physical Memory Array
Location: System Board Or Motherboard
Use: System Memory
Error Correction Type: Multi-bit ECC
Maximum Capacity: 512 GB
Error Information Handle: 0x0009
Number Of Devices: 8

$ lsmem
RANGE SIZE STATE REMOVABLE BLOCK
0x0000000000000000-0x000000407fffffff 258G online yes 0-128

Memory block size: 2G
Total online memory: 258G
Total offline memory: 0B

"Here's a nickel, kid, get yourself a better computer."

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On 5 Dec 2024 17:13:26 GMT, vallor wrote:

>
> $ lsmem
> RANGE SIZE STATE REMOVABLE BLOCK
> 0x0000000000000000-0x000000407fffffff 258G online yes 0-128
>
> Memory block size: 2G
> Total online memory: 258G
> Total offline memory: 0B
>

How in fuck do you get 258G instead of 256G?

Are your memory modules supplied by some drunken Chinaman?

I wouldn't give a wooden nickel for that System76 crap.

--
Systemd: solving all the problems that you never knew you had.

Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote:
>On 5 Dec 2024 17:13:26 GMT, vallor wrote:
>
>> $ lsmem
>> RANGE SIZE STATE REMOVABLE BLOCK
>> 0x0000000000000000-0x000000407fffffff 258G online yes 0-128
>>
>> Memory block size: 2G
>> Total online memory: 258G
>> Total offline memory: 0B
>
>How in fuck do you get 258G instead of 256G?
>
>Are your memory modules supplied by some drunken Chinaman?
>
>I wouldn't give a wooden nickel for that System76 crap.

Yeah, you'd rather have a joke, pitiful custom box with LFS/Gentoo, a
spinning hard drive, etc.

--
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

Le 03-12-2024, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> a écrit :
> On 2024-12-03, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote:
>>
> Are you mentally challenged?
> You appear to be retarded.

Yes, of course, it's obvious from all of his messages and videos. Do you
realize it just now?

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On 06 Dec 2024 15:52:14 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote
in <67531dae$0$12937$426a74cc@news.free.fr>:

> Le 03-12-2024, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> a écrit :
>> On 2024-12-03, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote:
>>>
>> Are you mentally challenged?
>> You appear to be retarded.
>
> Yes, of course, it's obvious from all of his messages and videos. Do you
> realize it just now?

In a recent post, he had a problem computing 129*2. Apparently,
he can't be bothered with something simple like:

$ echo '129*2' | bc
258

And he's building the computer version of a Pinto and
calling it a Porche. Whadda maroon.

(At least he knows what ECC memory is, if one takes him
at his word...)

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On Thu, 05 Dec 2024 21:14:34 +0000, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote in
<pan$9b948$26b83453$3b626d3a$4f3da0b5@linux.rocks>:

> On 5 Dec 2024 17:13:26 GMT, vallor wrote:
>
>
>
>> $ lsmem RANGE SIZE STATE REMOVABLE
>> BLOCK 0x0000000000000000-0x000000407fffffff 258G online yes
>> 0-128
>>
>> Memory block size: 2G Total online memory: 258G Total
>> offline memory: 0B
>>
>>
> How in fuck do you get 258G instead of 256G?
>
> Are your memory modules supplied by some drunken Chinaman?
>
> I wouldn't give a wooden nickel for that System76 crap.

So you can't count from "0". Why am I not surprised?

I noticed you snipped your blathering about ECC memory.

Embarrassed, much?

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"Is it possible to feel gruntled?"

vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote at 16:08 this Friday (GMT):
> On 06 Dec 2024 15:52:14 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote
> in <67531dae$0$12937$426a74cc@news.free.fr>:
>
>> Le 03-12-2024, pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> a écrit :
>>> On 2024-12-03, Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> wrote:
>>>>
>>> Are you mentally challenged?
>>> You appear to be retarded.
>>
>> Yes, of course, it's obvious from all of his messages and videos. Do you
>> realize it just now?
>
> In a recent post, he had a problem computing 129*2. Apparently,
> he can't be bothered with something simple like:
>
> $ echo '129*2' | bc
> 258
[snip]

I personally prefer dc, but you can also use eval if on a bash shell.
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On 6 Dec 2024 16:08:22 GMT, vallor wrote:

>
> In a recent post, he had a problem computing 129*2. Apparently,
> he can't be bothered with something simple like:
>
> $ echo '129*2' | bc
> 258
>

In your braggart previous posts you never included the "lsmem"
output.

Lsmem is never used to report basic computer specs. The fact
that you used this stupid ploy only indicates that you are a
pompous idiot.

Now get back to your pre-built System76 and your pre-built
Mint. I'm sure that your ass needs pre- and post-wiping.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

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